Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
I always take tools and a pump with me when I drive it. And sometimes a folding bike ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
Patrick, Good for you for trying to help, it's not surprising that you did! I managed to ride for several years in similar kit, but did know to carry a spare tube In Addition to CO2. It's amazing how much stuff fits into those jersey pockets. Sometimes felt kind of bulky back there, though. I was lucky to have few flats. I now prefer my Kevin's bag and frame pump. Joe, try a Miata. Pretty much the best of both (automotive) worlds. You get in, drive, have a blast. No worries. Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
That's OK, while I think I could figure it out, I have never used a CO2 chuck. I probably should get one for a backup to my frame pump. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 11:08:31 PM UTC-4, Darin G. wrote: I stopped one day to help a couple of guys who were asking for a C02 chuck. I told them I didn't have a chuck but offered them my frame pump and they just waved me off, saying they would wait for the rest of their group. I don't think they knew how to use it. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 4:31:47 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on. I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling. Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I’d had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
more than twice I've loaned my pump to roadies on the roadside. It's always a pleasant conversation. If we get back to the original problem it becomes a question of people buying into an image that's being sold, compounded by peer pressure, since the lion's share of group rides are built around the bike shops doing the selling. On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 7:45:22 AM UTC-5, Kobe* wrote: That's OK, while I think I could figure it out, I have never used a CO2 chuck. I probably should get one for a backup to my frame pump. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 11:08:31 PM UTC-4, Darin G. wrote: I stopped one day to help a couple of guys who were asking for a C02 chuck. I told them I didn't have a chuck but offered them my frame pump and they just waved me off, saying they would wait for the rest of their group. I don't think they knew how to use it. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 4:31:47 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on. I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling. Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I’d had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
I had a co-worker of a family member giving me a ride to the start of the Houston-Austin MS150 a few years back and when he saw people pumping up tires with a floor pump he asked why people would do that at all given the existence of CO2 cartridges. *facepalm* I didn't really give him any negative feedback as he had been kind enough to let me stay at his house while I was in the Houston area, and there wasn't really time to explain as I was about to get out of the car. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: I stopped one day to help a couple of guys who were asking for a C02 chuck. I told them I didn't have a chuck but offered them my frame pump and they just waved me off, saying they would wait for the rest of their group. I don't think they knew how to use it. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 4:31:47 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on. I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling. Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I’d had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
It's a Fiat 500C Abarth now, which is a decent 'best of both worlds' alternative for me. But we're off topic... ;) On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 7:14:13 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Subie WRX... best of both worlds! On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: *I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling.* It's what happens when you want *that* bike, and *these* are the roads you ride: You go for the ride, and deal with the consequences later. I went through the car equivalent of this with a snazzy used Porsche Boxster S ten years ago. It was great fun, but the maintenance was ridiculously expensive, and that was when it was *running.* I finally succumbed to the realities of the actual driving I was actually doing and bought a Honda Civic :) On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 3:31:47 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on. I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling. Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I’d had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
Fix It Again, Tony On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: It's a Fiat 500C Abarth now, which is a decent 'best of both worlds' alternative for me. But we're off topic... ;) On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 7:14:13 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Subie WRX... best of both worlds! On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.com wrote: *I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling.* It's what happens when you want *that* bike, and *these* are the roads you ride: You go for the ride, and deal with the consequences later. I went through the car equivalent of this with a snazzy used Porsche Boxster S ten years ago. It was great fun, but the maintenance was ridiculously expensive, and that was when it was *running.* I finally succumbed to the realities of the actual driving I was actually doing and bought a Honda Civic :) On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 3:31:47 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on. I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling. Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I’d had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
I know around here (and likely elsewhere), the big thing are supported rides - people get used to a car or truck having everything they need - besides, they paid for it. Probably even more so makes them feel like junior TDF - they're used to having a pit crew On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 8:47:45 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like shops would encourage everyone to have a pump. $30-50 for each rider ain't a bad day's income! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
Riding around other people was a new experience for me. I'll see folks out on the remote roads and trails, but if they are stopped fixing something they are prepared, because being remote demands self sufficiency -- all the more because cell reception is spotty at best in many of those places. This was my first ride into population and preparedness is less a perceived consideration (I suppose) because there is always cell signal and help nearby. This felt like encountering a tourist in trouble when trail running. I am recovering some today, but not nearly as much as I thought I might before this boundary pushing experiment. I have no desire to ride there often, but it sure is amazing to know that I am now able to when I choose to. Horizons keep slowly expanding! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
Seems like shops would encourage everyone to have a pump. $30-50 for each rider ain't a bad day's income! On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:56 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: more than twice I've loaned my pump to roadies on the roadside. It's always a pleasant conversation. If we get back to the original problem it becomes a question of people buying into an image that's being sold, compounded by peer pressure, since the lion's share of group rides are built around the bike shops doing the selling. On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 7:45:22 AM UTC-5, Kobe* wrote: That's OK, while I think I could figure it out, I have never used a CO2 chuck. I probably should get one for a backup to my frame pump. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 11:08:31 PM UTC-4, Darin G. wrote: I stopped one day to help a couple of guys who were asking for a C02 chuck. I told them I didn't have a chuck but offered them my frame pump and they just waved me off, saying they would wait for the rest of their group. I don't think they knew how to use it. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 4:31:47 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn't be inflated anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on. I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling. Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I'd had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
A few years ago a friend bought a brand spanking new LaPierre carbon fiber frame and fitted his parts from his Serotta onto it, 54T chain ring and all. The first day out, the top tube cracked. After he got the frame replaced from the shop he bought it, we went for a ride on the Burke-Gilman. Not to brag, but he had a hard time keeping up on that 54T; not that I'm all that fast on my Atlantis (average speed around 16 - 18 mph). He bought the bike after watching the Tour de France on TV, which he does every year. I don't know, I guess after 65 years, it never sank in that there's a big difference between romance and reality. Steve Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
He certainly had an opportunity to learn, whether or not he availed himself of it. He didn't ask about wider tires (I suggested wider tires at lower pressure ride smoother with fewer flats and just as fast). I did learn to buy the long valve stems. It doesn't bother me to have them and It would have helped him. Oops. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 6:13:17 PM UTC-6, Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado wrote: You tried Patrick! He learned a good lesson to always carry a spare tube as well as a patch kit. He'll have to buy a new saddle bag that is less aero and holds more than just band aids. A simple bike is always better. I'm glad you had a good ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
You tried Patrick! He learned a good lesson to always carry a spare tube as well as a patch kit. He'll have to buy a new saddle bag that is less aero and holds more than just band aids. A simple bike is always better. I'm glad you had a good ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling. Dear Patrick, I don't understand unprepared riders, regardless of their kit; I do try to help if they indicate it is welcome. However, if I'm out on the road, half the time I've got a spare tubular tire and a frame pump, so unless they need one of the three allen keys I carry, or they've (mis-) used their last CO2 cartridge, they're out of luck. I don't ordinarily carry a phone, either. I've ridden 360mi in one go in what would have been racing kit (steel bike, tubular tires, wool jersey, shorts, cleated shoes) thirty years ago, and it was beautifully suited to that particular task. I wouldn't ride to work in it, and I sure wouldn't ride trails with those shoes given better options these days. However, I've recently mangled my shoulder, and have a new appreciation for CO2 devices vs a traditional frame pump On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 4:31:47 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on. I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling. Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I’d had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
Subie WRX... best of both worlds! On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: *I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling.* It's what happens when you want *that* bike, and *these* are the roads you ride: You go for the ride, and deal with the consequences later. I went through the car equivalent of this with a snazzy used Porsche Boxster S ten years ago. It was great fun, but the maintenance was ridiculously expensive, and that was when it was *running.* I finally succumbed to the realities of the actual driving I was actually doing and bought a Honda Civic :) On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 3:31:47 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn't be inflated anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on. I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling. Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I'd had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
Ahhh, Joe! Yes, reality has a way of teaching. Grin. At least with cars, people KNOW there are options. Even if they don't, go in clueless to a car dealer and they will ask you what kind of driving you do and put you in a semi-appropriate vehicle. This guy was kitted out by the shop he bought the bike from, buying what they told him he needed (yes, I'm presuming a LOT here, but he didn't have a lot of knowledge in a lot of areas, but on one tube he had more flats than I've gotten in 3+ years (I've had one)). This is a sin of a racing cultured bike shop, is it not? On the plus side, he was out riding (until he wasn't), and his tires showed a decent amount of wear. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
*I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling.* It's what happens when you want *that* bike, and *these* are the roads you ride: You go for the ride, and deal with the consequences later. I went through the car equivalent of this with a snazzy used Porsche Boxster S ten years ago. It was great fun, but the maintenance was ridiculously expensive, and that was when it was *running.* I finally succumbed to the realities of the actual driving I was actually doing and bought a Honda Civic :) On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 3:31:47 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on. I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling. Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I’d had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
Joe, Given the crazy terrain we see in some of Patrick's photos, I'd say your Porsche analogy might be more spot-on had you taken the Porsche off-roading on jeep trails! John On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 4:13:18 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: *I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling.* It's what happens when you want *that* bike, and *these* are the roads you ride: You go for the ride, and deal with the consequences later. I went through the car equivalent of this with a snazzy used Porsche Boxster S ten years ago. It was great fun, but the maintenance was ridiculously expensive, and that was when it was *running.* I finally succumbed to the realities of the actual driving I was actually doing and bought a Honda Civic :) On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 3:31:47 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on. I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling. Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I’d had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
I stopped one day to help a couple of guys who were asking for a C02 chuck. I told them I didn't have a chuck but offered them my frame pump and they just waved me off, saying they would wait for the rest of their group. I don't think they knew how to use it. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 4:31:47 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on. I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling. Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I’d had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
