Re: [RBW] Re: HHH ride report

2020-07-27 Thread Deborah Coffin
 Thanks for mentioning that! I’m up in Montreal frequently during the summers I 
spend in the Adirondacks, and I didn’t know about it. Looks fun.

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Re: [RBW] Re: HHH ride report

2020-07-26 Thread Michael Hechmer
Thanks for the post.  Since you are in the general vicinity, I heartily 
 recommend the Petit Tran de Nord out of Montreal.  Of course you will have 
to wait for the border to reopen.  Pat and I did  a four day ride on our 
bilenkey tandem a few years ago and enjoyed every day.
Michael

On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 9:56:36 PM UTC-4 Robert Tilley wrote:

> I'm not really an experienced tandem rider but did have a Bike Friday 
> tandem in the past. I just picked up a HHH and built it up myself. I had no 
> issues building it up at all. It went better than any other bike really. I 
> went with Riv's recommended chain lengths and it works fine. I may shorten 
> the drive chain since I'm getting a lot of chain slap. Once built I didn't 
> have to adjust anything. Even the B17 saddle tilt and height was spot on. 
>
> The only issue I had was that the rear spacing actually measures 140 
> instead of 145 as it should be. This makes it a bit of a pain to get the 
> rear wheel in since I did put on a disc drag brake. Riv failed to provide 
> crank bolts with their Silver cranks so check that before you start your 
> build or you could be delayed. I scavenged some from other bikes the garage.
>
> I love the way the bike rides. It's comfortable but still feels very 
> quick. I went with a fairly standard build with the exception of the Jones 
> Loop bars for the Captain. Some pictures of mine are at the link below.
>
>
> https://roberttilley.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-Hubbuhubbuh-Tandem-2020/i-PmTH8B5/A
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
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>
> Looks like a lovely day on the bike, not a bad consolation.
>
> You may have posted this already, but as an experienced tandemist, how are 
> you liking the HHH? I assume the Bilenky is a more traditional road setup 
> with drops? I will be taking possession of a medium HHH shortly. I have a 
> nice 26" Santana that I "converted" to be as HHH-like as possible, with 
> 2.1" tires and Boscos. I'm hoping the HHH takes the easy cruise handling to 
> another, Clem-like level--it's an expensive (and time-consuming) upgrade, 
> and who knows how much longer my son will want to ride attached to dad?!
>
> I should probably start another thread, but can you tell me what hubs, 
> wheels, & tires you are running? Did you build it up yourself? Any tricks I 
> should be aware of? (I have the Riv tandem Silver chainset, some Boscos, 
> not much else) If other HHH owners want to chime in
>
> On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 9:52:52 PM UTC-4, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>>
>> COVID canceled our plan to tour in the UK on our Bilenky tandem this 
>> summer, so in partial compensation today we went for a day ride on the 
>> Illinois and Michigan Canal from Lasalle to Marseilles, Il and back on our 
>> Rivendell HHH -- about 45 miles. Nice ride, even if the path is very poorly 
>> maintained in places -- between Utica and Ottawa the path got rougher and 
>> rougher, then there was a missing bridge which required us to take the 
>> tandem down a muddy bank and wheel it across an 18" wide bridge some kind 
>> sole threw together from some old lumber. We then had to navigate a long 
>> section of limestone mud with running water -- fun! We ate lunch at Tangled 
>> Roots brew pub in Ottawa, IL (Yum!) and avoided the worst stretches of the 
>> path on the return by taking the road for 5 miles. A good day out... even 
>> if it isn't quite Cornwall, the British Peak District or Scotland!
>>
>> Photos here https://flic.kr/s/aHsmPzWJoy   sine Google Groups tells me i 
>> can't upload them into the message for some reason. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: HHH ride report

2020-07-23 Thread Robert Tilley
  I'm not really an experienced tandem rider but did have a Bike Friday tandem in the past. I just picked up a HHH and built it up myself. I had no issues building it up at all. It went better than any other bike really. I went with Riv's recommended chain lengths and it works fine. I may shorten the drive chain since I'm getting a lot of chain slap. Once built I didn't have to adjust anything. Even the B17 saddle tilt and height was spot on. The only issue I had was that the rear spacing actually measures 140 instead of 145 as it should be. This makes it a bit of a pain to get the rear wheel in since I did put on a disc drag brake. Riv failed to provide crank bolts with their Silver cranks so check that before you start your build or you could be delayed. I scavenged some from other bikes the garage.I love the way the bike rides. It's comfortable but still feels very quick. I went with a fairly standard build with the exception of the Jones Loop bars for the Captain. Some pictures of mine are at the link below.https://roberttilley.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-Hubbuhubbuh-Tandem-2020/i-PmTH8B5/ARobert TilleySan Diego, CA Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device   From: absolutegal...@gmail.comSent: July 23, 2020 5:31 AMTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comReply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: [RBW] Re: HHH ride report  Looks like a lovely day on the bike, not a bad consolation.You may have posted this already, but as an experienced tandemist, how are you liking the HHH? I assume the Bilenky is a more traditional road setup with drops? I will be taking possession of a medium HHH shortly. I have a nice 26" Santana that I "converted" to be as HHH-like as possible, with 2.1" tires and Boscos. I'm hoping the HHH takes the easy cruise handling to another, Clem-like level--it's an expensive (and time-consuming) upgrade, and who knows how much longer my son will want to ride attached to dad?!I should probably start another thread, but can you tell me what hubs, wheels, & tires you are running? Did you build it up yourself? Any tricks I should be aware of? (I have the Riv tandem Silver chainset, some Boscos, not much else) If other HHH owners want to chime inOn Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 9:52:52 PM UTC-4, Julian Westerhout wrote:COVID canceled our plan to tour in the UK on our Bilenky tandem this summer, so in partial compensation today we went for a day ride on the Illinois and Michigan Canal from Lasalle to Marseilles, Il and back on our Rivendell HHH -- about 45 miles. Nice ride, even if the path is very poorly maintained in places -- between Utica and Ottawa the path got rougher and rougher, then there was a missing bridge which required us to take the tandem down a muddy bank and wheel it across an 18" wide bridge some kind sole threw together from some old lumber. We then had to navigate a long section of limestone mud with running water -- fun! We ate lunch at Tangled Roots brew pub in Ottawa, IL (Yum!) and avoided the worst stretches of the path on the return by taking the road for 5 miles. A good day out... even if it isn't quite Cornwall, the British Peak District or Scotland!Photos here https://flic.kr/s/aHsmPzWJoy   sine Google Groups tells me i can't upload them into the message for some reason. Julian WesterhoutBloomington, IL 



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[RBW] Re: HHH ride report

2020-07-23 Thread Julian Westerhout
Mark, 

We like the HHH a lot. It is indeed a different beast than our Bilenky, 
which is a 650b S coupled drop-bar tourer. The HHH is more upright, and 
better for rides like this one. we also use it in town (going on a bike 
club ice cream ride on it tonight). On the road it still performs 
reasonably well, if not quite as fast as our Bilenky (much of which I put 
down to the riding position), but it has major fun factor. It rides well -- 
I also have a Clem H -- it is roughly analogous. 


It has a Shutter dynamo front hub, a Velocity tandem rear hub, Alex DM24 
rims. Tires are Maxxis Re-Fuse 650 x 2.0 (their mixed labeling) -- they're 
great for a mix of road and generally hard pack/gravel type riding. The 
wheels were supplied by Riv. We were in the first batch -- bought most of 
the parts from Riv, built it up myself. Not too tricky if you're a 
confifdent mechanic. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL

On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-5, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> Looks like a lovely day on the bike, not a bad consolation.
>
> You may have posted this already, but as an experienced tandemist, how are 
> you liking the HHH? I assume the Bilenky is a more traditional road setup 
> with drops? I will be taking possession of a medium HHH shortly. I have a 
> nice 26" Santana that I "converted" to be as HHH-like as possible, with 
> 2.1" tires and Boscos. I'm hoping the HHH takes the easy cruise handling to 
> another, Clem-like level--it's an expensive (and time-consuming) upgrade, 
> and who knows how much longer my son will want to ride attached to dad?!
>
> I should probably start another thread, but can you tell me what hubs, 
> wheels, & tires you are running? Did you build it up yourself? Any tricks I 
> should be aware of? (I have the Riv tandem Silver chainset, some Boscos, 
> not much else) If other HHH owners want to chime in
>
> On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 9:52:52 PM UTC-4, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>>
>> COVID canceled our plan to tour in the UK on our Bilenky tandem this 
>> summer, so in partial compensation today we went for a day ride on the 
>> Illinois and Michigan Canal from Lasalle to Marseilles, Il and back on our 
>> Rivendell HHH -- about 45 miles. Nice ride, even if the path is very poorly 
>> maintained in places -- between Utica and Ottawa the path got rougher and 
>> rougher, then there was a missing bridge which required us to take the 
>> tandem down a muddy bank and wheel it across an 18" wide bridge some kind 
>> sole threw together from some old lumber. We then had to navigate a long 
>> section of limestone mud with running water -- fun! We ate lunch at Tangled 
>> Roots brew pub in Ottawa, IL (Yum!) and avoided the worst stretches of the 
>> path on the return by taking the road for 5 miles. A good day out... even 
>> if it isn't quite Cornwall, the British Peak District or Scotland!
>>
>> Photos here https://flic.kr/s/aHsmPzWJoy   sine Google Groups tells me i 
>> can't upload them into the message for some reason. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: HHH ride report

2020-07-23 Thread Mark Roland
Looks like a lovely day on the bike, not a bad consolation.

You may have posted this already, but as an experienced tandemist, how are 
you liking the HHH? I assume the Bilenky is a more traditional road setup 
with drops? I will be taking possession of a medium HHH shortly. I have a 
nice 26" Santana that I "converted" to be as HHH-like as possible, with 
2.1" tires and Boscos. I'm hoping the HHH takes the easy cruise handling to 
another, Clem-like level--it's an expensive (and time-consuming) upgrade, 
and who knows how much longer my son will want to ride attached to dad?!

I should probably start another thread, but can you tell me what hubs, 
wheels, & tires you are running? Did you build it up yourself? Any tricks I 
should be aware of? (I have the Riv tandem Silver chainset, some Boscos, 
not much else) If other HHH owners want to chime in

On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 9:52:52 PM UTC-4, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
> COVID canceled our plan to tour in the UK on our Bilenky tandem this 
> summer, so in partial compensation today we went for a day ride on the 
> Illinois and Michigan Canal from Lasalle to Marseilles, Il and back on our 
> Rivendell HHH -- about 45 miles. Nice ride, even if the path is very poorly 
> maintained in places -- between Utica and Ottawa the path got rougher and 
> rougher, then there was a missing bridge which required us to take the 
> tandem down a muddy bank and wheel it across an 18" wide bridge some kind 
> sole threw together from some old lumber. We then had to navigate a long 
> section of limestone mud with running water -- fun! We ate lunch at Tangled 
> Roots brew pub in Ottawa, IL (Yum!) and avoided the worst stretches of the 
> path on the return by taking the road for 5 miles. A good day out... even 
> if it isn't quite Cornwall, the British Peak District or Scotland!
>
> Photos here https://flic.kr/s/aHsmPzWJoy   sine Google Groups tells me i 
> can't upload them into the message for some reason. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>

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