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Re: [RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-07-03 Thread The Cripler

Hey James
 
Were you responding to the question obout the LHT? If so email me off board 
and I'll give you the info.
 

On Monday, July 2, 2012 7:43:46 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:


 Yes!! 


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 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis! 
  
 I absolutely LOVE this bike! I went  on a couple longer rides this 
 weekend and down to the farmers market. While I loved my Surly LHT, the 
 Altantis us just so much more enjoyable to ride. It also seems to climb 
 better than the LHT. And what a head turner! I have had more compliments on 
 this bike in one weekend than I have ever gotten on any of my other bikes. 
 Thanks to all for the encouragement to purchase. Now...does anyone want to 
 buy a 56cm olive green LHT? ;) 
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-07-03 Thread James Warren

No. Sorry for the confusion. I was just excited about your bike joy. My own Atlantis is 64 cm, so a 56 cm LHT would never work.

Incidentally, I repainted my Atlantis red for its 10-year anniversery a year ago, and at that time, I added the midfork and midstay braze-ons for mini-racks.

Have fun riding!
-Jim W.

-Original Message- From: The Cripler Sent: Jul 2, 2012 11:55 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Cc: James Warren Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!
Hey James

Were you responding to the question obout the LHT? If so email me off board and I'll give you the info.

On Monday, July 2, 2012 7:43:46 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
Yes!! -Original Message- From: The Cripler citrowbri...@gmail.com Sent: Jul 1, 2012 11:51 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis! I absolutely LOVE this bike! I went on a couple longer rides this weekend and down to the farmers market. While I loved my Surly LHT, the Altantis us just so much more enjoyable to ride. It also seems to climb better than the LHT. And what a head turner! I have had more compliments on this bike in one weekend than I have ever gotten on any of my other bikes. Thanks to all for the encouragement to purchase. Now...does anyone want to buy a 56cm olive green LHT? ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cDs7k3xMD20J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-07-02 Thread The Cripler

I absolutely LOVE this bike! I went  on a couple longer rides this weekend and 
down to the farmers market. While I loved my Surly LHT, the Altantis us just so 
much more enjoyable to ride. It also seems to climb better than the LHT. And 
what a head turner! I have had more compliments on this bike in one weekend 
than I have ever gotten on any of my other bikes. Thanks to all for the 
encouragement to purchase. Now...does anyone want to buy a 56cm olive green 
LHT? ;)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-07-02 Thread James Warren

Yes!!

-Original Message-
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Subject: [RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

I absolutely LOVE this bike! I went  on a couple longer rides this weekend and 
down to the farmers market. While I loved my Surly LHT, the Altantis us just 
so much more enjoyable to ride. It also seems to climb better than the LHT. 
And what a head turner! I have had more compliments on this bike in one 
weekend than I have ever gotten on any of my other bikes. Thanks to all for 
the encouragement to purchase. Now...does anyone want to buy a 56cm olive 
green LHT? ;)

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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-07-01 Thread charlie

Wow ! Looks like a perfect fit if your saddle is that high. The 90mm stem 
should dial you right in.and with a little new cloth (maybe green) bar 
tape you'll be all set.

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:29:27 PM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

 Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a 
 while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a 
 more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an 
 Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not 
 without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned, 
 selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue 
 I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis 
 forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:

 Nitto Technomic Stem
 Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
 Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
 Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes 
 Hubs: Phil Wood hubs 
 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
 Sugino XD crankset
 Phil Wood BB
 Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT 
 Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
 Saddle: Brooks premium leather 
 SKS fenders

 It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a 
 totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a 
 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. 
 Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the 
 sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, 
 this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time 
 before, but I am really concerned that a 58  would be too big for me to 
 ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem 
 and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post 
 showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with 
 the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the 
 seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased 
 the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross 
 country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an 
 issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who 
 would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it 
 would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It 
 actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price. 
 But, it does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an 
 idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't, 
 do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help 
 a confused brother out here. Thanks All!


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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-29 Thread The Cripler

Here she is! Now I just need to get off work and take her for a nice long
ride. The saddle height is about where I want it...fit doesnt seem as if it
should be an issue. I thin if I swap out the 120 stem for the technomic
90 I have laying around, I should be well on my way!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l-S0fpIvpZ4/T-yzjPEaGDI/ABU/Ei9U4NIxRJM/s1600/IMG_0873%5B1%5D.JPG

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:29:27 PM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a
while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a
more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an
Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not
without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned,
selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue
I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis
forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:

Nitto Technomic Stem
Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes
Hubs: Phil Wood hubs
Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
Sugino XD crankset
Phil Wood BB
Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT
Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
Saddle: Brooks premium leather
SKS fenders

It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a
totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a
58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm.
Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the
sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But,
this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time
before, but I am really concerned that a 58 would be too big for me to
ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem
and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post
showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with
the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the
seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased
the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross
country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an
issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who
would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it
would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It
actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price.
But, it does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an
idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't,
do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help
a confused brother out here. Thanks All!

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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread islaysteve

Purely as a bystander, I'd say there's not too much risk for you in buying 
this bike, if you have the cash and are willing to mess with the 
adjustments (sounds like a shorter stem needed, at least).  If after that 
you find it doesn't work, I don't see how you would lose any money on a 
resale.  You know what they go for.  Fix the braze-ons or not, as you 
please.  My two cents.  Cheers, Steve


On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:29:27 AM UTC-4, The Cripler wrote:

 Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a 
 while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a 
 more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an 
 Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not 
 without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned, 
 selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue 
 I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis 
 forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:

 Nitto Technomic Stem
 Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
 Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
 Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes 
 Hubs: Phil Wood hubs 
 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
 Sugino XD crankset
 Phil Wood BB
 Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT 
 Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
 Saddle: Brooks premium leather 
 SKS fenders

 It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a 
 totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a 
 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. 
 Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the 
 sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, 
 this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time 
 before, but I am really concerned that a 58  would be too big for me to 
 ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem 
 and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post 
 showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with 
 the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the 
 seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased 
 the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross 
 country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an 
 issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who 
 would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it 
 would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It 
 actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price. 
 But, it does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an 
 idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't, 
 do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help 
 a confused brother out here. Thanks All!


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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread Zack

Seems to me like an Atlantis just fell into your lap.  Can't beat that!

I would get it, ride it for a while, confirm that you love it, then have 
the framebuilder fix the brazeons.  


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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread C.J. Filip

Shameless plug:  I have a 56cm Atlantis for sale.  Frame + wheels.  No
where near as good a deal however.

On Jun 28, 8:41 am, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote:
 Seems to me like an Atlantis just fell into your lap.  Can't beat that!

 I would get it, ride it for a while, confirm that you love it, then have
 the framebuilder fix the brazeons.

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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread charlie

Where did you say this Atlantis was? I know a 58 cm would fit me...and 
at $1000 I could buy it right now. If you don't end up with it, I'd be 
interested for sure.

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:29:27 PM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

 Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a 
 while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a 
 more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an 
 Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not 
 without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned, 
 selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue 
 I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis 
 forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:

 Nitto Technomic Stem
 Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
 Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
 Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes 
 Hubs: Phil Wood hubs 
 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
 Sugino XD crankset
 Phil Wood BB
 Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT 
 Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
 Saddle: Brooks premium leather 
 SKS fenders

 It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a 
 totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a 
 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. 
 Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the 
 sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, 
 this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time 
 before, but I am really concerned that a 58  would be too big for me to 
 ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem 
 and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post 
 showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with 
 the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the 
 seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased 
 the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross 
 country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an 
 issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who 
 would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it 
 would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It 
 actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price. 
 But, it does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an 
 idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't, 
 do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help 
 a confused brother out here. Thanks All!


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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread pam

I know someone with an Atlantis and they love theirs.  I have a Betty Foy 
and wouldn't ride anything else.  You won't be sorry for that price.  As 
for the paint, Grant calls that beausage (rhymes with usage).  The frame is 
probably usually that amount by itself.  

On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:29:27 AM UTC-4, The Cripler wrote:

 Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a 
 while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a 
 more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an 
 Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not 
 without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned, 
 selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue 
 I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis 
 forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:

 Nitto Technomic Stem
 Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
 Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
 Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes 
 Hubs: Phil Wood hubs 
 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
 Sugino XD crankset
 Phil Wood BB
 Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT 
 Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
 Saddle: Brooks premium leather 
 SKS fenders

 It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a 
 totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a 
 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. 
 Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the 
 sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, 
 this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time 
 before, but I am really concerned that a 58  would be too big for me to 
 ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem 
 and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post 
 showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with 
 the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the 
 seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased 
 the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross 
 country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an 
 issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who 
 would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it 
 would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It 
 actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price. 
 But, it does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an 
 idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't, 
 do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help 
 a confused brother out here. Thanks All!


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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread Leslie

Asking us is like saying, don't throw me in the briar patch

I think, you'll get used to the size as-is, but sure, shorten the stem, 
lower the seatpost, and enjoy it...   But then, if not, you can easily pass 
it along step down a size.

Go for it

:)

-L


On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:29:27 AM UTC-4, The Cripler wrote:

 Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a 
 while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a 
 more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an 
 Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not 
 without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned, 
 selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue 
 I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis 
 forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:

 Nitto Technomic Stem
 Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
 Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
 Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes 
 Hubs: Phil Wood hubs 
 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
 Sugino XD crankset
 Phil Wood BB
 Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT 
 Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
 Saddle: Brooks premium leather 
 SKS fenders

 It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a 
 totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a 
 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. 
 Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the 
 sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, 
 this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time 
 before, but I am really concerned that a 58  would be too big for me to 
 ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem 
 and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post 
 showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with 
 the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the 
 seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased 
 the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross 
 country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an 
 issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who 
 would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it 
 would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It 
 actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price. 
 But, it does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an 
 idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't, 
 do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help 
 a confused brother out here. Thanks All!


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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread tdusky

At that price you can't go wrong, if it is too big just find someone with a 
56 cm frame and do a swap. I owned a 61cm Atlantis for 4 years and it 
always felt small for me, I found someone on this list with a 64 cm frame 
who wanted to swap, we did and are both happy.

Tom Dusky
Huntington Woods MI

On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:29:27 AM UTC-4, The Cripler wrote:

 Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a 
 while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a 
 more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an 
 Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not 
 without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned, 
 selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue 
 I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis 
 forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:

 Nitto Technomic Stem
 Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
 Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
 Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes 
 Hubs: Phil Wood hubs 
 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
 Sugino XD crankset
 Phil Wood BB
 Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT 
 Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
 Saddle: Brooks premium leather 
 SKS fenders

 It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a 
 totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a 
 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. 
 Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the 
 sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, 
 this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time 
 before, but I am really concerned that a 58  would be too big for me to 
 ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem 
 and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post 
 showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with 
 the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the 
 seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased 
 the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross 
 country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an 
 issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who 
 would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it 
 would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It 
 actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price. 
 But, it does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an 
 idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't, 
 do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help 
 a confused brother out here. Thanks All!


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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread dougP

At that price, my advice is grab it before someone else does.
Replicate your set-up on the LHT (distance to handlebars, seat height
 location) with a different stem, bars, etc. and ride it for a
while.  Atlantis' in the middle sizes are a liquid asset, so if you
just can't make it work it'll be an easy trade or sale.

We had a similar situation a couple of years ago.  My wife was
perfectly happy with her existing bike when a fellow list member
forwarded a CL listing for a 47 cm Atlantis.  She's not a bike geek
but was moderately interested because the price was IIRC $1,300.
After 5 minutes in a parking lot she was so impressed she couldn't dig
her money out fast enough.  Some days you get lucky.

As to the braze-ons, I had a local guy add some to mine (can't have
too many places to fasten things) for about $20 each, so that repair
should be fairly modest.  A bit of Testors 2135 model paint will touch
up the paint damage well enough.

For a comparative value, see if Riv still has the typical Atlantis
build on the site.  A while back it was IIRC $3,700  this one looks a
fairly standard build.  I don't think there's any way to lose on this
one.

dougP

On Jun 26, 9:29 pm, The Cripler citrowbri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a
 while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a
 more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an
 Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not
 without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned,
 selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue
 I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis
 forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:

 Nitto Technomic Stem
 Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
 Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
 Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes
 Hubs: Phil Wood hubs
 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
 Sugino XD crankset
 Phil Wood BB
 Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT
 Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
 Saddle: Brooks premium leather
 SKS fenders

 It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a totally
 straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a 58. I
 have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. Fits
 me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the sizing
 charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, this just
 seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time before, but
 I am really concerned that a 58  would be too big for me to ride
 comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem and
 setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post showing
 with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with the bike
 is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the seller
 described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased the
 bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross country
 trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an issue, or
 to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who would be
 able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it would cost.
 Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It actually
 looks way better than I thought it would considering the price. But, it
 does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an idiot for
 having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't, do you
 think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help a
 confused brother out here. Thanks All!

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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread Greg J

Wow, you guys are incorrigible.  Let me be the dissenting voice of reason 
here.  I would hesitate to buy a bike that doesn't fit right --- been 
there, done that.  While I agree it's a great deal, you just never know 
what will happen.  Sure, there are folks here who are volunteering to buy 
this from you if it doesn't work out, but until the money's in your hands, 
that's no guarantee.  And you need to deal with taking pictures, haggling 
over prices and parts, packing and shipping, paypal, etc., which all take a 
lot of time.

I've been down this path before--so sure that it's a great deal that I 
could flip if things don't work out--only to be stuck with it. 

Of course, if I were in your shoes, I might not follow my own prudent 
advice either.

Greg

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:29:27 PM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

 Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a 
 while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a 
 more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an 
 Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not 
 without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned, 
 selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue 
 I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis 
 forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:

 Nitto Technomic Stem
 Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
 Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
 Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes 
 Hubs: Phil Wood hubs 
 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
 Sugino XD crankset
 Phil Wood BB
 Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT 
 Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
 Saddle: Brooks premium leather 
 SKS fenders

 It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a 
 totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a 
 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. 
 Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the 
 sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, 
 this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time 
 before, but I am really concerned that a 58  would be too big for me to 
 ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem 
 and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post 
 showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with 
 the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the 
 seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased 
 the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross 
 country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an 
 issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who 
 would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it 
 would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It 
 actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price. 
 But, it does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an 
 idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't, 
 do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help 
 a confused brother out here. Thanks All!


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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread Darin G.

Get it.  I have a 58 Atlantis.  My wife has a 56 LHT.  My PBH is 87 and I'm 
equally comfortable, fit wise, on either bike.  I don't think you can lose 
for 1K.  

D.G.

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:29:27 PM UTC-6, The Cripler wrote:

 Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a 
 while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a 
 more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an 
 Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not 
 without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned, 
 selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue 
 I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis 
 forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:

 Nitto Technomic Stem
 Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
 Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
 Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes 
 Hubs: Phil Wood hubs 
 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
 Sugino XD crankset
 Phil Wood BB
 Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT 
 Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
 Saddle: Brooks premium leather 
 SKS fenders

 It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a 
 totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a 
 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. 
 Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the 
 sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, 
 this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time 
 before, but I am really concerned that a 58  would be too big for me to 
 ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem 
 and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post 
 showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with 
 the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the 
 seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased 
 the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross 
 country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an 
 issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who 
 would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it 
 would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It 
 actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price. 
 But, it does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an 
 idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't, 
 do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help 
 a confused brother out here. Thanks All!


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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread The Cripler

So I am definitely leaning towards picking this bike up today! I did a
quick once over of the bike when I went and looked at a couple of days ago.
Nothing glaring was apparent: no real rust issues I could see; no obvious
frame damage, rode smooth as butter, etc. Is there anything that any of you
can think of that I shoud really look at with a discerning eye before
pulling the trigger? One thing I did notice that i though was odd was that
the front forks didn't have rack braze-ons. I thought that as a touring
bike an Atlantis came with mid fork braze-ons? Did some Atlantis runs come
with forks without these? I have attached a few pictures of the bike: a
couple of the missing rear rack braze-ons, one of the bottom bracket, and
some of the bike from a distance.

Thanks everyone. I knew I could count on this forum to push me in the
right direction! My wife will be very (ahem) happy... ;) Oh, and Charlie,
i didn't say where this was available ;) But if I don't take it or it ends
up just not fitting...I will let you know!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Ygd-UcX8euw/T-xvjpw1ECI/AAw/I6i_Faghtew/s1600/Atlantis2.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MwE4nplmQFc/T-xv70B9UwI/AA4/VRG64Aqv1tU/s1600/Head+badge+atlantis.jpg

On Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:11:09 AM UTC-7, charlie wrote:

Where did you say this Atlantis was? I know a 58 cm would fit me...and
at $1000 I could buy it right now. If you don't end up with it, I'd be
interested for sure.

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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread The Cripler

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ufvJnj68RpQ/T-xxB-jHYnI/ABA/BY_8mdcNcy0/s1600/IMG_0871.JPG

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:29:27 PM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread The Cripler

The forum seems to be allowing me to post a picture of two at at time...so
sorry for the repeated posts.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lhMJYZ61x4A/T-xxxbXm7yI/ABI/tEXEi24K6tw/s1600/IMG_0872.JPG

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:29:27 PM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread SteveD

If it's on the up-and-up, grab it, and work out any fit issues over 
time--get to know the bike. I have a 51 cm Atlantis that I bought from Riv 
in 2003. After almost 10 years of ownership, I've finally got all the fit 
issues worked out--seat and stem adjustments, new noodlebars--and the bike 
rides like a dream. So much so, that I have a hard time justifying buying 
an AHH, but will probably do it anyway next year just to have it.

Anyway, I doubt that you'll be disappointed, especially with the excellent 
price point.

Steve DeMont
Seattle

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:29:27 PM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

 Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a 
 while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a 
 more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an 
 Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not 
 without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned, 
 selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue 
 I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis 
 forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:

 Nitto Technomic Stem
 Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
 Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
 Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes 
 Hubs: Phil Wood hubs 
 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
 Sugino XD crankset
 Phil Wood BB
 Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT 
 Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
 Saddle: Brooks premium leather 
 SKS fenders

 It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a 
 totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a 
 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. 
 Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the 
 sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, 
 this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time 
 before, but I am really concerned that a 58  would be too big for me to 
 ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem 
 and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post 
 showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with 
 the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the 
 seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased 
 the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross 
 country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an 
 issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who 
 would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it 
 would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It 
 actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price. 
 But, it does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an 
 idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't, 
 do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help 
 a confused brother out here. Thanks All!


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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread The Cripler

Hey everbody! So I pulled the trigger this morning and am now an owner of a 
Rivendell Atlantis! My wife thanks you...well, those weren't her exact 
words but...we won't go ther :) 
 
I tried to post some pictures earlier of the bike prior to purchase. I seem 
to be falling victim to the post moderation lag being that I am fairly new 
here. Anyway, I will post more pictures soon. I don't think fit is going to 
be a problem on this bike at all. Oh did I mention that the bike came with 
a Brooks B17 special? Iti is well broken in but doesnt seem to have been 
tensioned ever...double score
 
On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:29:27 PM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

 Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a 
 while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a 
 more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an 
 Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not 
 without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned, 
 selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue 
 I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis 
 forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:

 Nitto Technomic Stem
 Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
 Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
 Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes 
 Hubs: Phil Wood hubs 
 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
 Sugino XD crankset
 Phil Wood BB
 Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT 
 Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
 Saddle: Brooks premium leather 
 SKS fenders

 It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a 
 totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a 
 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. 
 Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the 
 sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, 
 this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time 
 before, but I am really concerned that a 58  would be too big for me to 
 ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem 
 and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post 
 showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with 
 the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the 
 seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased 
 the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross 
 country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an 
 issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who 
 would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it 
 would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It 
 actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price. 
 But, it does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an 
 idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't, 
 do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help 
 a confused brother out here. Thanks All!


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Re: [RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread Lyle Bogart

Congratulations! Hope you put many miles on it!

lyle

On 28 June 2012 15:01, The Cripler citrowbri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey everbody! So I pulled the trigger this morning and am now an owner of
 a Rivendell Atlantis! My wife thanks you...well, those weren't her exact
 words but...we won't go ther :)

 I tried to post some pictures earlier of the bike prior to purchase. I
 seem to be falling victim to the post moderation lag being that I am fairly
 new here. Anyway, I will post more pictures soon. I don't think fit is
 going to be a problem on this bike at all. Oh did I mention that the bike
 came with a Brooks B17 special? Iti is well broken in but doesnt seem to
 have been tensioned ever...double score

 On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:29:27 PM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

 Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a
 while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a
 more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an
 Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not
 without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned,
 selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue
 I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis
 forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:

 Nitto Technomic Stem
 Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
 Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
 Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes
 Hubs: Phil Wood hubs
 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
 Sugino XD crankset
 Phil Wood BB
 Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT
 Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
 Saddle: Brooks premium leather
 SKS fenders

 It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a
 totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a
 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm.
 Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the
 sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But,
 this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time
 before, but I am really concerned that a 58  would be too big for me to
 ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem
 and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post
 showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with
 the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the
 seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased
 the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross
 country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an
 issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who
 would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it
 would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It
 actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price.
 But, it does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an
 idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't,
 do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help
 a confused brother out here. Thanks All!

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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

Obviously it's too late for this guidance, but I owned a 58 Atlantis for 
several years and it was my main bike. Fit was good. Now I own a 56 
Cross-check and a 56 Disc Trucker, both of which also fit well.

On Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:01:07 PM UTC-5, The Cripler wrote:

 Hey everbody! So I pulled the trigger this morning and am now an owner of 
 a Rivendell Atlantis! My wife thanks you...well, those weren't her exact 
 words but...we won't go ther :) 
  
 I tried to post some pictures earlier of the bike prior to purchase. I 
 seem to be falling victim to the post moderation lag being that I am fairly 
 new here. Anyway, I will post more pictures soon. I don't think fit is 
 going to be a problem on this bike at all. Oh did I mention that the bike 
 came with a Brooks B17 special? Iti is well broken in but doesnt seem to 
 have been tensioned ever...double score
  
 On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:29:27 PM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

 Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a 
 while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a 
 more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an 
 Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not 
 without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned, 
 selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue 
 I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis 
 forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:

 Nitto Technomic Stem
 Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
 Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
 Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes 
 Hubs: Phil Wood hubs 
 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
 Sugino XD crankset
 Phil Wood BB
 Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT 
 Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
 Saddle: Brooks premium leather 
 SKS fenders

 It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a 
 totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a 
 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. 
 Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the 
 sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, 
 this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time 
 before, but I am really concerned that a 58  would be too big for me to 
 ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem 
 and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post 
 showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with 
 the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the 
 seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased 
 the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross 
 country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an 
 issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who 
 would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it 
 would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It 
 actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price. 
 But, it does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an 
 idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't, 
 do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help 
 a confused brother out here. Thanks All!



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Re: [RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread cyclotourist

EXCELLENT purchase! The flaws you pointed out in the pictures look 100%
cosmetic and only give the bike character. I hope you can nail the height
and reach on it and it works great for you! You can easily re-sell it here,
so other than having some money tied up in it, there's no down-side to it!

On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
thill@gmail.com wrote:

 Obviously it's too late for this guidance, but I owned a 58 Atlantis for
 several years and it was my main bike. Fit was good. Now I own a 56
 Cross-check and a 56 Disc Trucker, both of which also fit well.


 On Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:01:07 PM UTC-5, The Cripler wrote:

 Hey everbody! So I pulled the trigger this morning and am now an owner of
 a Rivendell Atlantis! My wife thanks you...well, those weren't her exact
 words but...we won't go ther :)

 I tried to post some pictures earlier of the bike prior to purchase. I
 seem to be falling victim to the post moderation lag being that I am fairly
 new here. Anyway, I will post more pictures soon. I don't think fit is
 going to be a problem on this bike at all. Oh did I mention that the bike
 came with a Brooks B17 special? Iti is well broken in but doesnt seem to
 have been tensioned ever...double score

 On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:29:27 PM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

 Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a
 while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a
 more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an
 Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not
 without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned,
 selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue
 I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis
 forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:

 Nitto Technomic Stem
 Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
 Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
 Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes
 Hubs: Phil Wood hubs
 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
 Sugino XD crankset
 Phil Wood BB
 Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT
 Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
 Saddle: Brooks premium leather
 SKS fenders

 It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a
 totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a
 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm.
 Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the
 sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But,
 this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time
 before, but I am really concerned that a 58  would be too big for me to
 ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem
 and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post
 showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with
 the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the
 seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased
 the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross
 country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an
 issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who
 would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it
 would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It
 actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price.
 But, it does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an
 idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't,
 do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help
 a confused brother out here. Thanks All!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread James Warren

Cool! I'm glad you got it. It's a great bike, and 700C could be a reason for you to prefer the 58 cm over the 56 cm (unless you absolutely prefer 26 in wheels, as some do.)

Anyway, I can answer a question for you. The Atlantis's that came out from 1999 until oh, about 6 years ago did not come standard with mid-fork rack mounts. In 2005 or 2006 or so, the Salukis, and then the AHH's cam along, and these did have the midstay and midforkmounts for the "mini-racks" which fit their country bike designation. It seems that soon after this, the mid-fork and mid-seatstay mounts spread to the stock Atlantis's. So the lack of the midfork mounts on yours dates it, but it is not a flaw.

And also, regarding your broken-off rack braze-onon the rear dropout: This means that you have one working pair of fender/rack mounts on the rear dropout as opposed to two. I would like to point out that I've been riding an Atlantis for 10 years, and I have still never used both pairs of these dropout braze-ons at the same time. It helps that I live in a place where it doesn't rain a lot.

I hope you get the fit set up right, because if so, you will love the bike.

-Jim W.

-Original Message- From: The Cripler Sent: Jun 28, 2012 12:01 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!
Hey everbody! So I pulled the trigger this morning andam now an owner of a RivendellAtlantis! My wife thanks you...well, those weren't her exact words but...we won't go ther :)

I tried to post some pictures earlier of the bike prior to purchase. I seem to be falling victim to the post moderation lag being that I am fairly new here. Anyway, I will post more pictures soon. I don't think fit is going to be a problem on this bike at all. Oh did I mention that the bike came with a Brooks B17 special? Iti is well broken in but doesnt seem to have been tensioned ever...double score

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:29:27 PM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:
Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps "dreaming" is a more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned, selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs:Nitto Technomic StemNitto Noodle handlebars with new tapeFront rim: Bontrager 36 spokesRear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes Hubs: Phil Wood hubs Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)Sugino XD cranksetPhil Wood BBRear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)Saddle: Brooks premium leather SKS fendersIt seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time before, but I am really concerned that a 58 would be too big for me to ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price. But, it does have "character". So given what I have laid out...am I an idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't, do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help a confused brother out here. Thanks All!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread René Sterental

I'm pretty sure that I will end up selling my standard Hunqapillar and
Atlantis forks once I get the Atlantis back from the painter with its new
fork. My forks, being of recent vintage have the full set of braze-ons
including the screws on the top of the crown to allow the mounting of a
rear rack on the front. They have some expected paint chips in the expected
places. The steerer tubes are cut for a 58 Hunqapillar and a 61 Atlantis
respectively so I'd imagine you can use them on smaller frames after
trimming them appropriately, but I don't know about larger frames.

The Atlantis one is Waterford made and the Hunqapillar one is Toyo made, I
believe. Am not fully commited to selling them, but cannot see the point of
keeping them if I really end up preferring the ride of the bikes with the
new forks.

If you are going to be interested in acquiring either of them, please
contact me off-list and make an offer; I haven't yet decided on a price
point but my reference is the amount I paid for the new forks.
Orthie251atgmaildotcom.

To the OP, congratulations on your new Atlantis!!! Now do something nice
for your wife... :-D

René

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[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!

2012-06-28 Thread ted

Looks like an early Toyo version (cast in cable guide on the bb).
There are some nice touches on those frames. I think that the mid fork
and mid seat stay rack mounts were a later addition to RBWs standard
collection of mounts. If the stand over seems a tad tall try riding in
Keens. Thick soles = more room.

On Jun 28, 1:55 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Cool! I'm glad you got it. It's a great bike, and 700C could be a reason for 
 you to prefer the 58 cm over the 56 cm (unless you absolutely prefer 26 in 
 wheels, as some do.)



 Anyway, I can answer a question for you. The Atlantis's that came out from 
 1999 until oh, about 6 years ago did not come standard with mid-fork rack 
 mounts. In 2005 or 2006 or so, the Salukis, and then the AHH's cam along, and 
 these did have the midstay and midfork mounts for the mini-racks which fit 
 their country bike designation. It seems that soon after this, the mid-fork 
 and mid-seatstay mounts spread to the stock Atlantis's. So the lack of the 
 midfork mounts on yours dates it, but it is not a flaw.



 And also, regarding your broken-off rack braze-on on the rear dropout: This 
 means that you have one working pair of fender/rack mounts on the rear 
 dropout as opposed to two. I would like to point out that I've been riding an 
 Atlantis for 10 years, and I have still never used both pairs of these 
 dropout braze-ons at the same time. It helps that I live in a place where it 
 doesn't rain a lot.



 I hope you get the fit set up right, because if so, you will love the bike.



 -Jim W.



 -Original Message-
 From: The Cripler
 Sent: Jun 28, 2012 12:01 PM
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!Hey 
 everbody! So I pulled the trigger this morning and am now an owner of a 
 Rivendell Atlantis! My wife thanks you...well, those weren't her exact words 
 but...we won't go ther :)



 I tried to post some pictures earlier of the bike prior to purchase. I seem 
 to be falling victim to the post moderation lag being that I am fairly new 
 here. Anyway, I will post more pictures soon. I don't think fit is going to 
 be a problem on this bike at all. Oh did I mention that the bike came with a 
 Brooks B17 special? Iti is well broken in but doesnt seem to have been 
 tensioned ever...double score



 On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:29:27 PM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:

 Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a 
 while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a 
 more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an 
 Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not without 
 selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned, selling off 
 bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue I have 
 stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis forwait for 
 it.$1000. Here are the specs:
 Nitto Technomic Stem
 Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape
 Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes
 Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes
 Hubs: Phil Wood hubs
 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new)
 Sugino XD crankset
 Phil Wood BB
 Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT
 Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model)
 Saddle: Brooks premium leather
 SKS fenders
 It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a totally 
 straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a 58. I have 
 a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. Fits me 
 great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the sizing charts 
 I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, this just seems big 
 to me. I know this has been discussed countless time before, but I am really 
 concerned that a 58  would be too big for me to ride comfortably. I took the 
 bike on a test ride, and with the current stem and setup it definitely felt 
 too large. But, I did have a fistful post showing with my legs extended - 
 albeit barely. The other main issue with the bike is that both of the rear 
 rack braze-ons have broken off. As the seller described it, one of the 
 braze-ons was broken off when he purchased the bike, and the other broke off 
 due to the undue stress on a cross country trip. I looked at the damage and 
 it really doesn't seem to be an issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have 
 a frame builder in town who would be able to make short work of it...although 
 I'm not sure what it would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are 
 several chips. It actually looks way better than I thought it would 
 considering the price. But, it does have character. So given what I have 
 laid out...am I an idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If 
 the bike didn't, do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had 
 to sell it? Help a confused brother out here. Thanks All!

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