[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
I'm new to Rivendell (6 months or so) but I'm making up for lost time! All my hobbies are pre contact: Martin guitar, vintage audio - McIntosh/Klipsch/Dual/vinyl, backpacking/hiking/nature (1978 Kelty pack), organic gardening, poetry, cooking and keeping a healthly lifestyle going. Current favorite hobby: riding my new Sam Hillborne to work everyday and looking forward to my first S24O next month. Good stuff!! Joel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Not to turn this into a book club, but I got a used copy of this from a relative and read it. Had no idea it had been mentioned in the RR and glad you guys enjoy it too. Fantastic descriptions of being in Alaska. Oliver On Apr 26, 9:14 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: I lived in Alaska for 13 years. There is no better read than Coming Into the Country. Just thinking about it makes me unbearably homesick. D.G. On Apr 26, 9:36 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I like to read. John McPhee is a favorite. His name and references to his book Coming Into the Country have appeared in the RR on more than one occasion if I remember correctly. There's lots of Rivish stuff I can appreciate like fly fishing, hiking, backpacking, craftwork, etc but my time is limited and I just love cycling so I pretty much stick with that for hobbies. --mike -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
besides ride the bike? :-) knitting, mostly socks, but I venture into Fair Isle (including Alice Starmore stuff) and lace as well. spinning yarn on both a drop spindle and a wheel reading playing with pictures I've taken fountain pens - I have quite a few, but no new ones in awhile. I think I have enough, really. :-) keep the family bike fleet working Lynne F On Apr 28, 2:36 pm, Oliver S. os...@pdx.edu wrote: Not to turn this into a book club, but I got a used copy of this from a relative and read it. Had no idea it had been mentioned in the RR and glad you guys enjoy it too. Fantastic descriptions of being in Alaska. Oliver On Apr 26, 9:14 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: I lived in Alaska for 13 years. There is no better read than Coming Into the Country. Just thinking about it makes me unbearably homesick. D.G. On Apr 26, 9:36 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I like to read. John McPhee is a favorite. His name and references to his book Coming Into the Country have appeared in the RR on more than one occasion if I remember correctly. There's lots of Rivish stuff I can appreciate like fly fishing, hiking, backpacking, craftwork, etc but my time is limited and I just love cycling so I pretty much stick with that for hobbies. --mike -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
I was reading these great posts, and thinking darn, I don't have any hobbies! Except oh yeah - I paint, and I take analog photos sometimes, and I screenprint tee-shirts in my garage sometimes. I sculpt. And I make omelets every morning with eggs from our chickens or our friends' chickens. I have two gallons of mead brewing - one just honey, pollen and water, the other with black tea, ginger and whatever. I tinker with my bikes, and build up bikes for my friends. This forum might be considered a hobby - socializing with like-minded bike people. I'm with Scott - these things are what we do when we do them. Not a hobby or a lifestyle. More like a life. I try not to feel guilt about what I'm NOT doing, but take pleasure in what I AM doing, if that makes sense. Oh yeah - I'm studying kung fu with my wife and kid. And making a video game with the kid. This perspective, I think, is very Rivendellian. Bikes aren't a compartmentalized commodity or identity in the Rivendell world (as I understand it), but part of the fabric of a cycler's life. Likewise, beer brewing or music is something humans do as part of a full life. Is there anything more fundamental to human society than those two things? Frankly, some of ya'll's jobs are more interesting than any hobby. I make websites for independent toy stores for a living, which is a pretty funny niche. Philip McMinnville, Ore. On Apr 27, 10:51 pm, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: These days my hobby's are my life, my life are my hobby's. I've worked really hard at seeing no difference between what needs done, and what I want to do. There is only now-as opposed to 'after I am done with that, I'll enjoy this'. Work is Play, Play is Work. Started out a jazz musician. Playing music, particularly jazz, as craft and artform, is very much like a lot of things that require vast patience and aged wisdom [nothing good happens fast-it's all work and listening/watching... and perhaps someday, things come together and you fly behind/at/on top/above your given instrument]. Besides my 1st 'high-end' or 'good' bike [relatively speaking], a Bridgestone Kabuki Super-Light in the mid-70's it was all music for me, all the time. Music, made by human's vs. people programming machines, dovetails nicely with bicycling. I see, as I age, nothing but connections of Truth between bicycling, honest music, family, cooking the food I make from scratch, homeschooling our daughter, being forthright and ethically sound. Nothing amazing happens quick, it's slowly dazzling. Getting your life back, that's slow work too. It's all good work/play though. -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
My hobbies are fly-fishing for Trout on rivers and outdoor photography. I really understand the bamboo rod experience. Now that is something I could get into... On Apr 26, 7:41 am, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies? I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now (hell yes, pun intended!) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
On Apr 26, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Phil Brown wrote: Photography with a Leica. I'm trying to sell my Leica MP to finance a Rivendell...! I'll keep my OM-1md though, faithful foto friend ever since 1976. This is a great thread--what an interesting bunch y'all are! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
I'll chime in: I don't have any real hobbies except cycling, though I have interests; but I do cook my own food, buying mostly basic, unprocessed ingredients. (Well, cheese; wine, salami ... ok, not so much ...) I tend not to cook for myself, but when Catie is with me, it's pancakes, waffles, home made french fries, home made spaghetti, ditto mac 'n' cheese, even pizza and bread when I'm not lazy. Oh, and I write resumes from scratch, too. (Amazing and, almost without any tongue in cheek, frightening, how our best and brightest -- I write mostly for second tiers: Senior VPs, Regional Directors, those who report to the C-levels -- cannot, I don't say merely write, but conceptualize clearly enough to put ideas down in an intelligible fashion, that is, apart from business buzz words which, as with Newspeak, act less to transmit ideas than to initiate emotional and imaginative reactions while bypassing the through process. Anyway, I change that shit into English, using both composition and creative fiction skills. Pretty Bobbish/Rivendellish imo.) Patrick leverage optimum conceptualizing factors to initiate innovative, real-time data transmission strategies for maximizing end-user response Moore On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 26, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Phil Brown wrote: Photography with a Leica. I'm trying to sell my Leica MP to finance a Rivendell...! I'll keep my OM-1md though, faithful foto friend ever since 1976. This is a great thread--what an interesting bunch y'all are! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Had thought of selling my Leica M4-P a while ago. However, it's been through enough that it's not worth much anymore. Including damage about a decade or so ago that required about a half hour of work to get the base plate back on. Still works. As for instruments - besides acoustic guitars, own a couple of mandolins, a uke, a banjo and a guitar-banjo. Mostly playing old-time stringband music. However, most of my hobby time these days is centered around bikes and trying to lose some more weight. (Which is also Riv-inspired as Grant has been pushing me to do so.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Apr 27, 1:25 am, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 26, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Phil Brown wrote: Photography with a Leica. I'm trying to sell my Leica MP to finance a Rivendell...! I'll keep my OM-1md though, faithful foto friend ever since 1976. This is a great thread--what an interesting bunch y'all are! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
On Apr 27, 8:28 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: As for instruments - besides acoustic guitars, own a couple of mandolins, a uke, a banjo and a guitar-banjo. Mostly playing old-time stringband music. Eric - between Hiawatha and the twin-city acoustic music scene, you're bases are pretty well covered, huh?! Have you ever been to Hans Brentrup's shop in Minneapolis? Very talented luthier - he built my F5. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Other hobbies besides bicycling? What do you mean? I kid. My other main avocational interest is playing guitar, mostly jazz and Grateful Dead music, a little blues (electric and fingerstyle). I started studying guitar in 1978 and got serious about it in 1979 and had jazz lessons until 1986 or so. Then I didn't now anyone who played jazz after moving to St. Paul so I just diddled around in my living room with it. Two years ago I fortuitously discovered an ongoing jazz workshop in Minneapolis, which has been in action for over 30 years. I have been going for the past couple of years and maintain a blog about the workshop: http://mplsjazzworkshop.blogspot.com/ Although on a time-spent basis my wife would insist that my main hobby is frittering away time on the interwebs. She might not be wrong. Look, I've done it again! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
I guess I don't really have a Riv style, save liking good comfortable steel sport-toury bikes that don't lean me over too far. But, complementary hobbies: Fountain pens - Sheaffers, Parkers, Pelikans Tube Audio: Mac, Eico, and Dynaco vintage tube stereo stuff, even some Harmon Kardon Citation. Classical guitar playing Choral singing I really like high-tech cars, too. And there's not much higher-tech car than a Prius, nor greener to run. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Apr 27, 8:28 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: As for instruments - besides acoustic guitars, own a couple of mandolins, a uke, a banjo and a guitar-banjo. Mostly playing old-time stringband music. Eric - between Hiawatha and the twin-city acoustic music scene, you're bases are pretty well covered, huh?! Have you ever been to Hans Brentrup's shop in Minneapolis? Very talented luthier - he built my F5. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
I listen to records a fair amount. I am also becoming obsessed with coffee. My friend documents his (over) obsession at BitterPress.com but I'm just in search of the easiest method of creation. I need a handcrank grinder. On Apr 27, 10:09 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I don't really have a Riv style, save liking good comfortable steel sport-toury bikes that don't lean me over too far. But, complementary hobbies: Fountain pens - Sheaffers, Parkers, Pelikans Tube Audio: Mac, Eico, and Dynaco vintage tube stereo stuff, even some Harmon Kardon Citation. Classical guitar playing Choral singing I really like high-tech cars, too. And there's not much higher-tech car than a Prius, nor greener to run. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Apr 27, 8:28 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: As for instruments - besides acoustic guitars, own a couple of mandolins, a uke, a banjo and a guitar-banjo. Mostly playing old-time stringband music. Eric - between Hiawatha and the twin-city acoustic music scene, you're bases are pretty well covered, huh?! Have you ever been to Hans Brentrup's shop in Minneapolis? Very talented luthier - he built my F5. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Handcrank grinder - hmmm a little upper body and arm work ... On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.comwrote: I listen to records a fair amount. I am also becoming obsessed with coffee. My friend documents his (over) obsession at BitterPress.com but I'm just in search of the easiest method of creation. I need a handcrank grinder. On Apr 27, 10:09 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I don't really have a Riv style, save liking good comfortable steel sport-toury bikes that don't lean me over too far. But, complementary hobbies: Fountain pens - Sheaffers, Parkers, Pelikans Tube Audio: Mac, Eico, and Dynaco vintage tube stereo stuff, even some Harmon Kardon Citation. Classical guitar playing Choral singing I really like high-tech cars, too. And there's not much higher-tech car than a Prius, nor greener to run. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Apr 27, 8:28 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: As for instruments - besides acoustic guitars, own a couple of mandolins, a uke, a banjo and a guitar-banjo. Mostly playing old-time stringband music. Eric - between Hiawatha and the twin-city acoustic music scene, you're bases are pretty well covered, huh?! Have you ever been to Hans Brentrup's shop in Minneapolis? Very talented luthier - he built my F5. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Too complicated; like indexed shifting. What you really want is a steel mortar and pestle. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.comwrote: Handcrank grinder - hmmm a little upper body and arm work ... On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.comwrote: I listen to records a fair amount. I am also becoming obsessed with coffee. My friend documents his (over) obsession at BitterPress.com but I'm just in search of the easiest method of creation. I need a handcrank grinder. On Apr 27, 10:09 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I don't really have a Riv style, save liking good comfortable steel sport-toury bikes that don't lean me over too far. But, complementary hobbies: Fountain pens - Sheaffers, Parkers, Pelikans Tube Audio: Mac, Eico, and Dynaco vintage tube stereo stuff, even some Harmon Kardon Citation. Classical guitar playing Choral singing I really like high-tech cars, too. And there's not much higher-tech car than a Prius, nor greener to run. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Apr 27, 8:28 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: As for instruments - besides acoustic guitars, own a couple of mandolins, a uke, a banjo and a guitar-banjo. Mostly playing old-time stringband music. Eric - between Hiawatha and the twin-city acoustic music scene, you're bases are pretty well covered, huh?! Have you ever been to Hans Brentrup's shop in Minneapolis? Very talented luthier - he built my F5. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Would you recommend 531 or Columbus? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:41 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Too complicated; like indexed shifting. What you really want is a steel mortar and pestle. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.comwrote: Handcrank grinder - hmmm a little upper body and arm work ... On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.comwrote: I listen to records a fair amount. I am also becoming obsessed with coffee. My friend documents his (over) obsession at BitterPress.com but I'm just in search of the easiest method of creation. I need a handcrank grinder. On Apr 27, 10:09 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I don't really have a Riv style, save liking good comfortable steel sport-toury bikes that don't lean me over too far. But, complementary hobbies: Fountain pens - Sheaffers, Parkers, Pelikans Tube Audio: Mac, Eico, and Dynaco vintage tube stereo stuff, even some Harmon Kardon Citation. Classical guitar playing Choral singing I really like high-tech cars, too. And there's not much higher-tech car than a Prius, nor greener to run. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Apr 27, 8:28 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: As for instruments - besides acoustic guitars, own a couple of mandolins, a uke, a banjo and a guitar-banjo. Mostly playing old-time stringband music. Eric - between Hiawatha and the twin-city acoustic music scene, you're bases are pretty well covered, huh?! Have you ever been to Hans Brentrup's shop in Minneapolis? Very talented luthier - he built my F5. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
My mother has a 10 lb, 5 inner diameter mortar with matching pestle (~3lb) both machined from solid stainless steel billet in Pakistan. I am careful not to drop either on my foot. I've used it for coffee, but prefer a cheap Braun grinder. Talk about heirloom quality! On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.comwrote: Would you recommend 531 or Columbus? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:41 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Too complicated; like indexed shifting. What you really want is a steel mortar and pestle. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.comwrote: Handcrank grinder - hmmm a little upper body and arm work ... On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.comwrote: I listen to records a fair amount. I am also becoming obsessed with coffee. My friend documents his (over) obsession at BitterPress.com but I'm just in search of the easiest method of creation. I need a handcrank grinder. On Apr 27, 10:09 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I don't really have a Riv style, save liking good comfortable steel sport-toury bikes that don't lean me over too far. But, complementary hobbies: Fountain pens - Sheaffers, Parkers, Pelikans Tube Audio: Mac, Eico, and Dynaco vintage tube stereo stuff, even some Harmon Kardon Citation. Classical guitar playing Choral singing I really like high-tech cars, too. And there's not much higher-tech car than a Prius, nor greener to run. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Apr 27, 8:28 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: As for instruments - besides acoustic guitars, own a couple of mandolins, a uke, a banjo and a guitar-banjo. Mostly playing old-time stringband music. Eric - between Hiawatha and the twin-city acoustic music scene, you're bases are pretty well covered, huh?! Have you ever been to Hans Brentrup's shop in Minneapolis? Very talented luthier - he built my F5. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Okay, so it sounds like we might have the makings of a Rivendell fly- fishing overnight. I too like to wave a stick around whilst standing in a river, play guitar (Taylor) and hand drums (djembe, etc.). I also enjoy climbing, backpacking and sea kayaking as well as an occasional surf (longboard), craft beers and making new things out of old things. Now if only there were more time in a day... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
On Apr 26, 4:35 pm, Steve sring...@gmail.com wrote: Keeping my fleet of antique Volvos on the road for use when the Riv is best left in the garage. My website helps you get your Volvo to a million miles or beyond:http://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/ Steve Volvos? Ha, I'm a BMW guy :) Seriously, and I didn't know if this is off-topic, but working on cars, in general, is becoming rare and possibly a hobby that compliments the Riv lifestyle, whatever that is:). The complexity of today's cars plus the lack of interest by kids makes working on them seem obsolete. Nevertheless, basic things like brake jobs, tune-ups and other minor work can still be done by the DIY. I guess most people take their cars to dealers? At the least they should find a good independent. Further, I was recently talking with a couple of friends about the value of good tools. We were discussing Snap-on versus Craftsman or other similar tools and the importance of a lifetime guarantee. However, one friend mentioned that kids today don't value tools and rather settle for junk ones from China because its cheaper. I guess they haven't worked on something and have a bolt or nut stripped or the tool break because of the poor quality of the tool. Too bad, as I think a good tool, be it Snap-on, Craftman, Park or even Campy, OK, maybe not that $300 chain tool :(, is essential and worth every cent! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
hi justin, i'm into coffee too... i just bought a handcrank grinder that i'm quite happy with for grinding my morning brew. it's the Hario Skerton (i think Skerton was originally supposed to read Skeleton but it got translated as Skerton). it's something of a ritual, grinding the beans each morning, for my one mug of daily coffee. i enjoy it. one of our local coffee shops (Crema) turned me on to the grinder. it's perfect for my needs. you might check it out, too? takes a bit of adjustment to find the right grind, but once you do, you're set! -k PS: i should also mention (as others have done) that my interests/ hobbies have been with me from before my finding Rivendell, but they all do complement each other. i'll say again, i really appreciate this group for the myriad interests represented. Thanks to Grant and his fine folks (and you, too, Jim for hosting this site) for bringing us all together! On Apr 27, 10:34 am, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: I listen to records a fair amount. I am also becoming obsessed with coffee. My friend documents his (over) obsession at BitterPress.com but I'm just in search of the easiest method of creation. I need a handcrank grinder. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
So, rig up an electric grinder on the sturdy rack: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/gamoh-cargo-rack/20-028 power the grinder with this: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/suntour-dynamo-wheel/18-275 And carry the supplies here:http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sackville-saddlesack-small/20-131 From: kps kshe...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 1:08:25 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle hi justin, i'm into coffee too... i just bought a handcrank grinder that i'm quite happy with for grinding my morning brew. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
maybe you could adapt something like this: http://bikeblender.com/ ;) -andrew On Apr 27, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Bruce wrote: So, rig up an electric grinder on the sturdy rack: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/gamoh-cargo-rack/20-028 power the grinder with this: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/suntour-dynamo-wheel/18-275 And carry the supplies here: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sackville-saddlesack-small/20-131 From: kps kshe...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 1:08:25 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle hi justin, i'm into coffee too... i just bought a handcrank grinder that i'm quite happy with for grinding my morning brew. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Other hobbies: I brew beer. It's good, too! Bonus! I have my own IPA recipe I call Longball IPA that I hope to enter in competition this year, if I don't drink it all. I sail; I share a little 22' catalina with a friend. We keep her moored on Puget Sound. I tinker, lately with arrays of leds and low voltage electricity. So, really the perfect day is (Riv content!): ride the Hillborne out to Shilshole Marina, with a stop at the Fremont Brewing Company, sail all afternoon, ride to The Sloop for a post-sail libation, ride home. I play guitar once in a while too, and I'm finally going to pick up Irish fiddle this year. Life is good. On Apr 27, 11:26 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: maybe you could adapt something like this:http://bikeblender.com/ ;) -andrew On Apr 27, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Bruce wrote: So, rig up an electric grinder on the sturdy rack: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/gamoh-cargo-rack/20-028 power the grinder with this:http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/suntour-dynamo-wheel/18-275 And carry the supplies here:http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sackville-saddlesack-small/20-131 From: kps kshe...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 1:08:25 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle hi justin, i'm into coffee too... i just bought a handcrank grinder that i'm quite happy with for grinding my morning brew. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
I, too, brew. My pale ales and IPAs come out oh-so-nice. Bikes and Beer. A classic combination that transcends age, riding preference, etc. Dave On 4/27/2010 12:06 PM, soapscum wrote: Other hobbies: I brew beer. It's good, too! Bonus! I have my own IPA recipe I call Longball IPA that I hope to enter in competition this year, if I don't drink it all. I sail; I share a little 22' catalina with a friend. We keep her moored on Puget Sound. I tinker, lately with arrays of leds and low voltage electricity. So, really the perfect day is (Riv content!): ride the Hillborne out to Shilshole Marina, with a stop at the Fremont Brewing Company, sail all afternoon, ride to The Sloop for a post-sail libation, ride home. I play guitar once in a while too, and I'm finally going to pick up Irish fiddle this year. Life is good. On Apr 27, 11:26 am, andrew hillneurod...@gmail.com wrote: maybe you could adapt something like this:http://bikeblender.com/ ;) -andrew On Apr 27, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Bruce wrote: So, rig up an electric grinder on the sturdy rack: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/gamoh-cargo-rack/20-028 power the grinder with this:http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/suntour-dynamo-wheel/18-275 And carry the supplies here:http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sackville-saddlesack-small/20-131 From: kpskshe...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 1:08:25 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle hi justin, i'm into coffee too... i just bought a handcrank grinder that i'm quite happy with for grinding my morning brew. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 11:52 -0400, Ken Freeman wrote: Would you recommend 531 or Columbus? Yes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Sigh. No. Not to his workshop. Have met him a number of times. And have played his mandolins, and want to try his guitars. For the non-players, Mr. Brentrup makes mandolins like Richard Sachs makes bicycles. Absolute top tier quality. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Apr 27, 8:15 am, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Apr 27, 8:28 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: As for instruments - besides acoustic guitars, own a couple of mandolins, a uke, a banjo and a guitar-banjo. Mostly playing old-time stringband music. Eric - between Hiawatha and the twin-city acoustic music scene, you're bases are pretty well covered, huh?! Have you ever been to Hans Brentrup's shop in Minneapolis? Very talented luthier - he built my F5. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
In high school, living in one of the many remote parts of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan with several thousand wild acres in my backyard, I was fanatic about hunting and trapping. And when I did those things, I prefered to use the tools and methods used by my grandfather or great-grandfather, rather than the latest technology. So I'd snowshoe and pull a toboggan instead of ride a snowmobile, and I'd wear Filson or Woolrich or Carhartt instead of nylon, for example. And I really liked the craftsmanship and aesthetic of the blued steel and oiled walnut of traditional firearms (even when scratched, rusted or otherwise beausaged), rather than more advanced lightweight and indestructible materials that were being introduced at the time. I was convinced then, and I still am today, that the older methods and tools had a more appealing aesthetic and didn't have any negative impact on my ability to be successful (my skill being the limiting factor, of course). In college, I got into backpacking under the influence of some friends. Again I gravitated toward more traditional gear. Then I had a dark period when I was in grad school doing nothing but studying esoteric topics of minimal value and getting plastered. Once I had enough of getting plastered, I discovered Rivendell, and the ruggedly useful/beautiful aesthetic of the bikes were appealing in the same way that old guns are appealing. The pictures of loaded Atlantises with waxed canvas panniers reminded me of my earlier backpacking adventures. I no longer hunt, trap, or do much backpacking, but the Rivendell style of bicycles and bicycling seems to fill the same role. On Apr 26, 9:41 am, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies? I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now (hell yes, pun intended!) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
On Apr 27, 4:58 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Sigh. No. Not to his workshop. Have met him a number of times. And have played his mandolins, and want to try his guitars. For the non-players, Mr. Brentrup makes mandolins like Richard Sachs makes bicycles. Absolute top tier quality. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN Tangent for mando fans - Lynn Dudenbostel used to post on the Kogswell list. I don't think anyone else there knew who he was. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
It would be more accurate to say that fly-fishing led me to Rivendell, actually Mountain Sports Limited in Bristol VA, a Rivendell dealer, is also an Orvis fly shop. I was in there talking to Patrick when I noticed the Rivendells. That's how I got to know Bobby and Steve. But, an older hobby of mine, which is how I got to know Patrick and got into fly-fishing in the first place, is old Series Land Rovers (I've got a '72 and a '60). I took the '72 apart and put it back together on a new chassis; the '60 is going to be my next project, as it needs a chassis, too. I can be found on several Rover boards. In what seems like a previous lifetime, I was a grunt in the Marines. Went into college, became a geologist (or, perhaps more accurately, discovered I was a geologist, and got a degree or two to show it). Part of the tie to Land Rovers (was Jeeps previously, transitioned out of Jeeps to Rovers over a dozen years ago now), is that when you have a tendency to drag rocks home w/ you, backpacking out w/ them isn't so much fun, a 4x4 makes that easier. Work on reclaiming coal mines now. Don't know if you know much about geologists, but I think I'm pretty typical, coffee by day, beer by night. (Part of the reason I need to bike more, eh?) Not a high-brow coffee guy (not roasting my own beans, grinding, french press, etc.; I'm happy w/ JFG, or Joe Muggs, or Starbucks' dark roast; but, I probably go through two pots a day...? Close to, if not more). I like Fat Tire, 1554, Dead Guy, Bass, Guinness, Negro Modelo, ales and porters and stouts, not so much on the pilsners or hefeweizens. Along w/ the infantry-bit, goes camping, hiking, and shooting. I do short overnight backpacking trips along the AT along the TN/NC line, the Smokies, Mt Rogers area of Virginia.Help out w/ a lot of naturalist rallies in the area here. I wouldn't say that I play guitar. I have a couple, a shallow-bowl Ovation and a Fender Stratocaster; I would say I occasionally pull them out and beat on them, but what little skill I had decades ago when I was a teen in high-school, has long since faded from disuse. I've got a Dagger kayak, an old Blue Hole canoe, but don't use 'em as much as I should. In addition to the Ram, I have an old Nishiki MTB from my college days, but plan to replace it w/ a Bombadil. Haven't fenced since college. Used to do 3-weapon, but don't know of any fencers w/in an hour's drive of here. Am a Nikon fan. Started into photography by kidnapping my dad's Canon when I was beginning on annual staff in high-school, then he got me a Nikon, and I've had several. (N4004, N70, D80... want a D300s, but keep spending my money before I buy one). Not a great photographer, use my SE phone as a camera more often than anything else these days, just because of the convenience, but often have to pull a camera out at work when documenting things for reports, etc.; 'work' photos instead of 'art' photos. Most of my time, though, is in being dad. Kids and I rode 20 miles Sunday afternoon here in town brisk day, not cool, but windy. Good day. -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Boy. I'm starting to feel LTA. I don't play guitar or fly fish. I do enjoy good coffee, but only decaf espresso. Caffeine makes me crazy. Fishing only in the backcountry with some ultralight spinning gear. I have to ride or hike there. no pick up truck fishing! Beer, I certainly enjoy hand crafted ales... porters, stouts, IPA's... have not tried home brewing yet. Love music, just can't play it. Latin Jazz especially, but also a big Buffett fan and Reggae. Like climbing mountains, trying do all the 14ers in California. Into archeology, have traveled to many Mayan ruins and want to explore Incas and Aztecan too. Love rocks, BS in Geology but make Rocket engines for a living. Love bike touring...steel bikes, going fast and going slow. Let's see ... oh yea... bikes..3 ridable, 3 in work at the moment and a tandem. ~Mike~ On Apr 27, 8:20 pm, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: It would be more accurate to say that fly-fishing led me to Rivendell, actually Mountain Sports Limited in Bristol VA, a Rivendell dealer, is also an Orvis fly shop. I was in there talking to Patrick when I noticed the Rivendells. That's how I got to know Bobby and Steve. But, an older hobby of mine, which is how I got to know Patrick and got into fly-fishing in the first place, is old Series Land Rovers (I've got a '72 and a '60). I took the '72 apart and put it back together on a new chassis; the '60 is going to be my next project, as it needs a chassis, too. I can be found on several Rover boards. In what seems like a previous lifetime, I was a grunt in the Marines. Went into college, became a geologist (or, perhaps more accurately, discovered I was a geologist, and got a degree or two to show it). Part of the tie to Land Rovers (was Jeeps previously, transitioned out of Jeeps to Rovers over a dozen years ago now), is that when you have a tendency to drag rocks home w/ you, backpacking out w/ them isn't so much fun, a 4x4 makes that easier. Work on reclaiming coal mines now. Don't know if you know much about geologists, but I think I'm pretty typical, coffee by day, beer by night. (Part of the reason I need to bike more, eh?) Not a high-brow coffee guy (not roasting my own beans, grinding, french press, etc.; I'm happy w/ JFG, or Joe Muggs, or Starbucks' dark roast; but, I probably go through two pots a day...? Close to, if not more). I like Fat Tire, 1554, Dead Guy, Bass, Guinness, Negro Modelo, ales and porters and stouts, not so much on the pilsners or hefeweizens. Along w/ the infantry-bit, goes camping, hiking, and shooting. I do short overnight backpacking trips along the AT along the TN/NC line, the Smokies, Mt Rogers area of Virginia. Help out w/ a lot of naturalist rallies in the area here. I wouldn't say that I play guitar. I have a couple, a shallow-bowl Ovation and a Fender Stratocaster; I would say I occasionally pull them out and beat on them, but what little skill I had decades ago when I was a teen in high-school, has long since faded from disuse. I've got a Dagger kayak, an old Blue Hole canoe, but don't use 'em as much as I should. In addition to the Ram, I have an old Nishiki MTB from my college days, but plan to replace it w/ a Bombadil. Haven't fenced since college. Used to do 3-weapon, but don't know of any fencers w/in an hour's drive of here. Am a Nikon fan. Started into photography by kidnapping my dad's Canon when I was beginning on annual staff in high-school, then he got me a Nikon, and I've had several. (N4004, N70, D80... want a D300s, but keep spending my money before I buy one). Not a great photographer, use my SE phone as a camera more often than anything else these days, just because of the convenience, but often have to pull a camera out at work when documenting things for reports, etc.; 'work' photos instead of 'art' photos. Most of my time, though, is in being dad. Kids and I rode 20 miles Sunday afternoon here in town brisk day, not cool, but windy. Good day. -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
These days my hobby's are my life, my life are my hobby's. I've worked really hard at seeing no difference between what needs done, and what I want to do. There is only now-as opposed to 'after I am done with that, I'll enjoy this'. Work is Play, Play is Work. Started out a jazz musician. Playing music, particularly jazz, as craft and artform, is very much like a lot of things that require vast patience and aged wisdom [nothing good happens fast-it's all work and listening/watching... and perhaps someday, things come together and you fly behind/at/on top/above your given instrument]. Besides my 1st 'high-end' or 'good' bike [relatively speaking], a Bridgestone Kabuki Super-Light in the mid-70's it was all music for me, all the time. Music, made by human's vs. people programming machines, dovetails nicely with bicycling. I see, as I age, nothing but connections of Truth between bicycling, honest music, family, cooking the food I make from scratch, homeschooling our daughter, being forthright and ethically sound. Nothing amazing happens quick, it's slowly dazzling. Getting your life back, that's slow work too. It's all good work/play though. -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Oh, I think it counts. I think they both count utterly. Any hobby that centers around a more calorie-burning, sustainable, self-sufficient, fun-yet-useful activity fits the Rivendell philosophy as I understand it. Agree. Self supporting and sustainable. I don't have a yard, so gardening is out. I do collect old tools, some of which come in handy when working on the Riv. All of which make clear that while technology inevitably marches along, those who came before us knew a thing or two about getting things done. On Apr 26, 10:13 am, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: Seth Vidal wrote: I've started sewing more, though I don't suspect that is a much of a riv'ish hobby. Does gardening count? Probably not. -sv === Oh, I think it counts. I think they both count utterly. Any hobby that centers around a more calorie-burning, sustainable, self-sufficient, fun-yet-useful activity fits the Rivendell philosophy as I understand it. Jon ³Oliver Wendell Douglass² Grant, who just yesterday planted cukes, yellow squash, and zucchini in his front flower plot, and now considers himself a right proper organic food-crop family farmer, in sunny Austin ³Green Acres² Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
I like to read. John McPhee is a favorite. His name and references to his book Coming Into the Country have appeared in the RR on more than one occasion if I remember correctly. There's lots of Rivish stuff I can appreciate like fly fishing, hiking, backpacking, craftwork, etc but my time is limited and I just love cycling so I pretty much stick with that for hobbies. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Agreed - I don't collect fountain pens except for use, and use them fairly exclusively. I also brew my own beer. Dylan On Apr 26, 7:48 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Fountain pen restoration/collecting I don't restore them but I use them fairly exclusively. But I used them before I discovered rivendell. I've started sewing more, though I don't suspect that is a much of a riv'ish hobby. Does gardening count? Probably not. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Is eating a hobby? Ride to eat, eat to ride! On Apr 26, 2010, at 9:29 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Oh, I think it counts. I think they both count utterly. Any hobby that centers around a more calorie-burning, sustainable, self-sufficient, fun-yet-useful activity fits the Rivendell philosophy as I understand it. Agree. Self supporting and sustainable. I don't have a yard, so gardening is out. I do collect old tools, some of which come in handy when working on the Riv. All of which make clear that while technology inevitably marches along, those who came before us knew a thing or two about getting things done. On Apr 26, 10:13 am, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: Seth Vidal wrote: I've started sewing more, though I don't suspect that is a much of a riv'ish hobby. Does gardening count? Probably not. -sv === Oh, I think it counts. I think they both count utterly. Any hobby that centers around a more calorie-burning, sustainable, self-sufficient, fun-yet-useful activity fits the Rivendell philosophy as I understand it. Jon ³Oliver Wendell Douglass² Grant, who just yesterday planted cukes, yellow squash, and zucchini in his front flower plot, and now considers himself a right proper organic food-crop family farmer, in sunny Austin ³Green Acres² Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:43 AM, rswat...@me.com wrote: Is eating a hobby? Only if you do it yourself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
This post has me thinking about guitars, fly fishing, and cycling. Long before I bought a Riv I acquired a taste for woody Martin guitars and and favored my Winston traditional trout rod over my Sage artillery pieces. My fly boxes are adorned with modern bead-headed and foam flies (trout bling), but I prefer to tie furry little traditional bugs. 80% of the trout I catch fall for traditional nymphs and dries. In a way, those things opened me up to owning a Rivendell and not the other way around. That said, I wouldn't trade my gore-tex waders for old rubber chest waders. I play a very nice Taylor guitar when I have to plug in or want it to be loud and bright. I will fish my fast action fly rods when the situation demands--i.e. when casting heavy streamers to steelhead or big trout in big water, but just because I can cast 70 feet of shooting head with this gear doesn't mean I love doing it, nor does it bring me more pleasure than a well placed thirty foot cast that drops a size 18 Adams into a slot six inches wide and three feet long. The point, I suppose, is to be objective about new technology and its so called advantages. Sometimes the advantages are real, but often its just hype to get you to buy another version of something you already have or an attempt to push everyone to the extreme edge of their hobby or sport. Do enjoy that new bamboo rod--I'm sure its a lovely reed. What are the specifics of the rod (wt., length) and what reel did you put on it? And noting the other posts--I use a fountain pen. I think gardening counts and I don't know why something as practical as sewing wouldn't count as well. D.G. On Apr 26, 9:13 am, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: Seth Vidal wrote: I've started sewing more, though I don't suspect that is a much of a riv'ish hobby. Does gardening count? Probably not. -sv === Oh, I think it counts. I think they both count utterly. Any hobby that centers around a more calorie-burning, sustainable, self-sufficient, fun-yet-useful activity fits the Rivendell philosophy as I understand it. Jon ³Oliver Wendell Douglass² Grant, who just yesterday planted cukes, yellow squash, and zucchini in his front flower plot, and now considers himself a right proper organic food-crop family farmer, in sunny Austin ³Green Acres² Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
I lived in Alaska for 13 years. There is no better read than Coming Into the Country. Just thinking about it makes me unbearably homesick. D.G. On Apr 26, 9:36 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I like to read. John McPhee is a favorite. His name and references to his book Coming Into the Country have appeared in the RR on more than one occasion if I remember correctly. There's lots of Rivish stuff I can appreciate like fly fishing, hiking, backpacking, craftwork, etc but my time is limited and I just love cycling so I pretty much stick with that for hobbies. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
On Apr 26, 8:41 am, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now (hell yes, pun intended!) Nice. They are beautiful, aren't they? Making one yourself and then fishing it with flies you tied yourself must be the ultimate fly fishing experience. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
By the way, did you ever see the pictures of the Vanilla fishing bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
I have an old tube radio that i'm planning to rebuild (recap) when i get a spare weekend. Love audio tubes. What make? This will be fun. On Apr 26, 11:19 am, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies? I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now (hell yes, pun intended!) I've always been a DIY tinkerer, and this winter added sewing to my many hobbies. I've also built some of my own furniture, my own LED lights, and a bike trailer from cut-up frames (nearly done). I have an old tube radio that i'm planning to rebuild (recap) when i get a spare weekend. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
i'm a female who enjoys (in no particular order): bicycles and bicycling (i have five bicyles, with two more to arrive soon, which folks say is more than i'm supposed to have, being female. I love tinkering with them, too. they are great tools and works of art, imo.) all my bikes are steel, yes. i should receive my NEW Roadeo frame (RCP, which is also something a female isn't 'supposed' to want g) this week. i'm excited about this! photography (old film Leicas, especially) guitars (both for fun and because it's my business). i am especially fond of old Gibson L-00s. songwriting reading fountain pens (i use and old sheaffer and a newer OMAS) and good bags (i'm a bag lady, i guess), both new and vintage. oh, and cats. i have three rescues. i would give up anything i own to keep/save my animals. -k On Apr 26, 9:41 am, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:09 PM, kps kshe...@gmail.com wrote: i'm a female who enjoys (in no particular order): bicycles and bicycling (i have five bicyles, with two more to arrive soon, which folks say is more than i'm supposed to have, being female. I love tinkering with them, too. they are great tools and works of art, imo.) all my bikes are steel, yes. i should receive my NEW Roadeo frame (RCP, which is also something a female isn't 'supposed' to want g) this week. i'm excited about this! I don't recall Grant's 'How many bikes do you need' being gender-specific so I'd say you're getting close to the right number of bikes. :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
S24O's Tinkering on old steel 10 speeds On Apr 26, 10:12 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:09 PM, kps kshe...@gmail.com wrote: i'm a female who enjoys (in no particular order): bicycles and bicycling (i have five bicyles, with two more to arrive soon, which folks say is more than i'm supposed to have, being female. I love tinkering with them, too. they are great tools and works of art, imo.) all my bikes are steel, yes. i should receive my NEW Roadeo frame (RCP, which is also something a female isn't 'supposed' to want g) this week. i'm excited about this! I don't recall Grant's 'How many bikes do you need' being gender-specific so I'd say you're getting close to the right number of bikes. :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
I make stuff by hand and have a store on etsy. On Apr 26, 7:41 am, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies? I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now (hell yes, pun intended!) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Busted. All of the above, except for guitar, and the fact that fly fishing in the lower Sonoran desert scrub doesn't make much sense right now. I make my flies, too, when I live near water. Someday, soon, again. Time is a problem lately. Add Photography! I've ridden my bikes to fish and photograph and eat, etc. I used to have a saddlebag spray-painted white to reflect sun, to keep things from cooking too soon. Just back from an S24O with 9 middle-schoolers from South Phoenix, which is very urban in a suburban way. Now, these aren't hobbies, folks, theses are just ways to be alive. Some of many. I also like to learn the names and ways of flowers, rocks, and the other critters I amuse as I blunder through. Visual and Mental Astronomy. I am reviving an old interest in what some call traditional crafts/bushcraft/wildcraft/woodscraft. Making cordage. Basket weaving. Wood carving. Whittling. Scout stuff? On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:18 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I make stuff by hand and have a store on etsy. On Apr 26, 7:41 am, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies? I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now (hell yes, pun intended!) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:51 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I have an old tube radio that i'm planning to rebuild (recap) when i get a spare weekend. Love audio tubes. What make? This will be fun. It's a GE, probably early 60s, it was my grandfather's garage radio for as long as i could remember, rescued from my mom's basement. It's in working order, but the capacitors are obviously shot. I have the schematics and a radio shop nearby, i just need to get started. Looking forward to being able to use it again. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Shoot things with feathers Eat them Use feathers to tie flies Catch trout Eat them On Apr 26, 7:41 am, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies? I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now (hell yes, pun intended!) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Looking forward to being able to use it again. I am sure it will sound great. On Apr 26, 12:34 pm, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:51 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I have an old tube radio that i'm planning to rebuild (recap) when i get a spare weekend. Love audio tubes. What make? This will be fun. It's a GE, probably early 60s, it was my grandfather's garage radio for as long as i could remember, rescued from my mom's basement. It's in working order, but the capacitors are obviously shot. I have the schematics and a radio shop nearby, i just need to get started. Looking forward to being able to use it again. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Photography with a Leica. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
I tinker with old watches ad am getting into recycling old leather into watch straps. Shave with a 1950's DE Gillette Superspeed. Sewing, although not as much since I had to sell my Bernina 950 due to space issues. Woodblock printing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Interesting replies. For me, cycling has been part of an aerobic outdoors lifestyle that included running, hiking, climbing, and cross- country skiing. Clean oxygen-fed sport as XCZone.tv has called it. I know longer do the running or climbing. But the Riv/BOB bent was a decision to keep the gear less complicated and more sane, and less expensive. I think I have lost track of that at times as I have fiddled with fenders and racks and lighting, and god-forbid, twine. I have purposely decided to get back to keeping it simple and letting the experience be the hobby instead of the gear. So for me, hobbies that compliment my Riv lifestyle are less gear purchase and play, and more riding, hiking, and skiing. On Apr 26, 8:41 am, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies? I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now (hell yes, pun intended!) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
hey seth, funny, i hadn't thought about grant's comment that seven is a good number of bikes. g i guess i said 'more than i'm supposed to have' because of an earlier thread i ran across a few days ago (a thread from back in 2007, i think) where beth h. was mentioning that it's more rare than not for females to have more than one bike, and when they have a bike, they are mostly just happy to ride it and 1. don't tinker with it or 2. buy more bikes. i'd say it's safe to say that i am just outside that particular box, that's all. ;-) there's no right or wrong, obviously, and the actual riding's the best part of all. i just happen to like bikes and have more than one (or two). i really do appreciate everyone on this list, and the fact that regardless of our particular passions, we all have 'em, and we all seem to appreciate things that work well, are well-built and LAST. -k I don't recall Grant's 'How many bikes do you need' being gender-specific so I'd say you're getting close to the right number of bikes. :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
I too use a Leica M and shoot black and white film. I've been shooting since I was about 17 and with a Leica for the last 20+ years. On Apr 26, 11:35 am, Kenneth Stagg kenneth.st...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies? Well, I started this before I'd heard of Rivendell but I see woodworking with antique, hand-powered tools to be complimentary. Other than chopping mortices it's generally peaceful work with an unrushed pace. -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Keeping my fleet of antique Volvos on the road for use when the Riv is best left in the garage. My website helps you get your Volvo to a million miles or beyond: http://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/ Steve On Apr 26, 9:41 am, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies? I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now (hell yes, pun intended!) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
I play old-time fiddle, banjo, and guitar: DIY music. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
On Apr 26, 8:44 pm, i.e. ien...@gmail.com wrote: I play old-time fiddle, banjo, and guitar: DIY music. nice to see so many musicians in this bunch, especially of the acoustic variety. it's not surprising - luthiery and framebuilding have a lot in common; making music and riding bikes are good for the soul. my living room used to be full of strings - a fiddle, banjo, 2 guitars and 3 mandolins. i lived to pick. now my garage is full of spokes. i live to ride. i wonder what i'll live to do 10 years from now. i bet i'll only have 2 mandolins and 2 bikes. and like 20 dogs or something. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Small world! We have used your site a couple times in the past... how cool is that?! Ha, small world indeed. -Scott On Apr 26, 4:35 pm, Steve sring...@gmail.com wrote: Keeping my fleet of antique Volvos on the road for use when the Riv is best left in the garage. My website helps you get your Volvo to a million miles or beyond:http://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/ Steve On Apr 26, 9:41 am, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies? I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now (hell yes, pun intended!) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Well..I don't fly fish, switched to digital after photographing for 30+ years with film, play the mandolin and harmonicas, and enjoy competitive target shooting. I like to camp and have done so when bicycle touring so I like the idea of doing the overnight camping trips by bicycle. I enjoy writing and many of the other topics written about in the reader. Basically I am a bicycle nut but a practical one, in an old school, steel frame, kind of way and I can appreciate the artistry of a fine lugged frame. On Apr 26, 6:36 pm, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Apr 26, 8:44 pm, i.e. ien...@gmail.com wrote: I play old-time fiddle, banjo, and guitar: DIY music. nice to see so many musicians in this bunch, especially of the acoustic variety. it's not surprising - luthiery and framebuilding have a lot in common; making music and riding bikes are good for the soul. my living room used to be full of strings - a fiddle, banjo, 2 guitars and 3 mandolins. i lived to pick. now my garage is full of spokes. i live to ride. i wonder what i'll live to do 10 years from now. i bet i'll only have 2 mandolins and 2 bikes. and like 20 dogs or something. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
My hobby is work, so I can afford to buy more stuff from Rivendell. td -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
I can't claim to be all-steel/tweed/shellac or that Rivendell has influenced my other hobbies, but many of my other interests have been mentioned. Mandolin? Check, a Weber Hyalite. I don't think anyone mentioned ukulele, but there are a couple of those around here too. Tube audio? I've built a couple of tube amps, a pre-amp, and a DAC with tube output buffer, along with several pairs of speakers, a heavily modified AR turntable, and the rack that holds it all. My vegetable garden is expanding to a 12 x 30' plot this spring. I used to drive a Volvo 240, hung out on Swedishbricks back then. I have a Miata that I've autocrossed a couple of times (how non-Rivvish is that?). I used to keep tropical fish, but gave that up when I moved, there's no good place for an aquarium in this house. I built myself a canoe some years back, but it go too dangerous to paddle in the local river so it now sits unused (fast power boats in a narrow, winding channel - I stopped paddling when one hit and killed a teen aged boy). Too many hobbies, not enough tie or money! Bill On Apr 26, 7:41 am, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies? I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now (hell yes, pun intended!) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
