Re: [RBW] Re: How are you building up your Platypus?

[Ryan]

Bob, that is a really smashing bike. Much as I admire Leah's green and gold 
anodized Platypus, I also like the black and silver parts you've chosen. I 
think they really complement the mermaid beautifully. Your wife is dying to 
ride that bike, I bet. Nice!

On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-6 stoker wrote:

> Hi All!
> Over the past week, got around to assembling my wife's 50cm Platypus. 
> Chased the threads, installed the HS, aligned the derailleur hanger and 
> Frame Savered the innards. Built it up with the following:
> Velocity Cliffhangers, 32h with Deore T610 hubset and Sapim spokes. 584x48 
> Rene Herse Switchback Hill.
> Brooks Cambium C17 carved all-weather saddle on Nitto S65 post.
> XT BLR780 levers with Deore T610 linear pull brakes. Nitto Choco bars, 
> Nitto Dynamic stem and ESI grips.
> 1x10 setup using 11-40 Praxis 10 speed cassette. M780 series XT derailleur 
> and trigger shifters. 
> Wolftooth 38t chainring on Suntour XCPro 170mm crankset. UN72 107mm BB. 
> Spank Oozy 2.0 trail pedals.
> Blue Lug HS spacers and Forager cable cherry (rear der).
>
> Pics - 
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/107142884@N05/5J49k5UPwz
>
> Rack and basket eventually. Can't wait for the snow to melt so she can get 
> out and ride it!
>
> Bob Stoltz
> On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 6:08:35 PM UTC-6 aeroperf wrote:
>
>> I’d probably better get my two cents in.
>>
>> I’m working off a pile of parts that I’ve collected over the years. 
>>  That’s not necessarily the best way to approach a new build, but it will 
>> get something on the road.  And everybody has a pile of parts…somewhere…
>>
>> I took the frame down to the LBS for the prep I couldn’t do myself.  They 
>> installed the stock headset, chased the bottom bracket shell, and aligned 
>> the rear derailleur hanger.  One thing that might help others is their 
>> comment that the bottom bracket shell wasn’t threaded far enough in (for a 
>> UN300x107), and so they had to run their thread taps in a little farther.
>>
>> The wheels - I went with 650b (our Platy is a 50cm) Velocity Dyad 36s
>> Rear hub is a Deore LX FH-T660, front is a SON28 generator hub
>> For tires we’re using Schwalbe G-One Allrounds
>>
>> The drive is a Deore XT FD-M781 front and Deore XT RD-m772 SGS for the 
>> rear
>> A Suguino XD2 46/36/26 crankset and Haimim “oil sheen” pedals complete 
>> the set
>> Brakes are Tektro 837 AL Silver, and the levers are Tektro RS360A
>>
>> The cockpit is proving to be a slight problem.  We’re going with 
>> Albatross bars and Dura-Ace bar ends, but…
>> To get a good fit I’m going to assemble the whole set up with a Nitto 
>> NTC110 DX stem.  The 11cm reach is probably going to be a bit long, and I 
>> expect to have to get something shorter, but until I do we can’t put on 
>> cork grips.  So I’m using a handlebar tape wrap until she finds her reach.
>>
>> Currently it is built up just enough to be rideable, while she finds a 
>> saddle that she REALLY likes (one of the big complaints of her old bike). 
>>  And there’s still a lot I need to do - light, basket, fenders - so no 
>> pictures yet.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: How are you building up your Platypus?

[stoker]

Hi All!
Over the past week, got around to assembling my wife's 50cm Platypus. 
Chased the threads, installed the HS, aligned the derailleur hanger and 
Frame Savered the innards. Built it up with the following:
Velocity Cliffhangers, 32h with Deore T610 hubset and Sapim spokes. 584x48 
Rene Herse Switchback Hill.
Brooks Cambium C17 carved all-weather saddle on Nitto S65 post.
XT BLR780 levers with Deore T610 linear pull brakes. Nitto Choco bars, 
Nitto Dynamic stem and ESI grips.
1x10 setup using 11-40 Praxis 10 speed cassette. M780 series XT derailleur 
and trigger shifters. 
Wolftooth 38t chainring on Suntour XCPro 170mm crankset. UN72 107mm BB. 
Spank Oozy 2.0 trail pedals.
Blue Lug HS spacers and Forager cable cherry (rear der).

Pics - 
https://www.flickr.com/gp/107142884@N05/5J49k5UPwz

Rack and basket eventually. Can't wait for the snow to melt so she can get 
out and ride it!

Bob Stoltz
On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 6:08:35 PM UTC-6 aeroperf wrote:

> I’d probably better get my two cents in.
>
> I’m working off a pile of parts that I’ve collected over the years. 
>  That’s not necessarily the best way to approach a new build, but it will 
> get something on the road.  And everybody has a pile of parts…somewhere…
>
> I took the frame down to the LBS for the prep I couldn’t do myself.  They 
> installed the stock headset, chased the bottom bracket shell, and aligned 
> the rear derailleur hanger.  One thing that might help others is their 
> comment that the bottom bracket shell wasn’t threaded far enough in (for a 
> UN300x107), and so they had to run their thread taps in a little farther.
>
> The wheels - I went with 650b (our Platy is a 50cm) Velocity Dyad 36s
> Rear hub is a Deore LX FH-T660, front is a SON28 generator hub
> For tires we’re using Schwalbe G-One Allrounds
>
> The drive is a Deore XT FD-M781 front and Deore XT RD-m772 SGS for the rear
> A Suguino XD2 46/36/26 crankset and Haimim “oil sheen” pedals complete the 
> set
> Brakes are Tektro 837 AL Silver, and the levers are Tektro RS360A
>
> The cockpit is proving to be a slight problem.  We’re going with Albatross 
> bars and Dura-Ace bar ends, but…
> To get a good fit I’m going to assemble the whole set up with a Nitto 
> NTC110 DX stem.  The 11cm reach is probably going to be a bit long, and I 
> expect to have to get something shorter, but until I do we can’t put on 
> cork grips.  So I’m using a handlebar tape wrap until she finds her reach.
>
> Currently it is built up just enough to be rideable, while she finds a 
> saddle that she REALLY likes (one of the big complaints of her old bike). 
>  And there’s still a lot I need to do - light, basket, fenders - so no 
> pictures yet.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: How are you building up your Platypus?

[aeroperf]

I’d probably better get my two cents in.

I’m working off a pile of parts that I’ve collected over the years.  That’s 
not necessarily the best way to approach a new build, but it will get 
something on the road.  And everybody has a pile of parts…somewhere…

I took the frame down to the LBS for the prep I couldn’t do myself.  They 
installed the stock headset, chased the bottom bracket shell, and aligned 
the rear derailleur hanger.  One thing that might help others is their 
comment that the bottom bracket shell wasn’t threaded far enough in (for a 
UN300x107), and so they had to run their thread taps in a little farther.

The wheels - I went with 650b (our Platy is a 50cm) Velocity Dyad 36s
Rear hub is a Deore LX FH-T660, front is a SON28 generator hub
For tires we’re using Schwalbe G-One Allrounds

The drive is a Deore XT FD-M781 front and Deore XT RD-m772 SGS for the rear
A Suguino XD2 46/36/26 crankset and Haimim “oil sheen” pedals complete the 
set
Brakes are Tektro 837 AL Silver, and the levers are Tektro RS360A

The cockpit is proving to be a slight problem.  We’re going with Albatross 
bars and Dura-Ace bar ends, but…
To get a good fit I’m going to assemble the whole set up with a Nitto 
NTC110 DX stem.  The 11cm reach is probably going to be a bit long, and I 
expect to have to get something shorter, but until I do we can’t put on 
cork grips.  So I’m using a handlebar tape wrap until she finds her reach.

Currently it is built up just enough to be rideable, while she finds a 
saddle that she REALLY likes (one of the big complaints of her old bike). 
 And there’s still a lot I need to do - light, basket, fenders - so no 
pictures yet.

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Re: [RBW] Re: How are you building up your Platypus?

[Chris Cameron]

That is so sweet looking, Dave.  It really makes me want to jump on it 
before all of the Platypus frames are gone.

On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 4:56:14 PM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:

> A few more pieces have come together, and now my Platy has rear shifting:
>
> [image: IMG_20221126_160328219.jpg]
>
> The rear derailleur is an Altus with a "Jim" 7 speed 13-34 cassette (I 
> mistakenly typed 11t in my post above). The crank is a Velo Orange 46/30. 
> Still waffling on a front derailleur so am manually changing rings but the 
> full cassette is usable with both front rings.
>
> The front Mark's Rack will likely get a 137 half-basket and bag. The stem 
> bag is from Outer Shell and the bottom is tethered to the rack tombstone to 
> stabilize and keep it off the headtube (too precious?) as well as provide 
> the suggested rack support. There's a Nitto lamp holder on the strut for 
> the coming dynamo light, once I rebuild the wheel with the SON wide body 
> hub. The tail light is a Blue Lug Koma rechargeable - I'm unsure if I'll 
> run a wired tail in the future.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 5:10:53 PM UTC-5 Scott wrote:
>
>> Congratulations, Dave! That's a really clean build! Enjoy it while it's 
>> in stop-and-shift mode🤣.
>>
>> And Happy Thanksgiving to you and all the Rivsters across the globe!
>>
>> Scott in Big Sky Country
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>> 
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 2:56 PM, DavidP
>>  wrote:
>>
>> An update on my Platy build - I'm still waiting on some things but I've 
>> ridden it bit around the neighborhood without any shifting (30/11 gearing) 
>> to get a feel for it. It's already a little bit dirty.
>>
>> [image: R001-3692_platypus-1800.jpg]
>>
>> 65cm Tosco bars with 120mm Nitto UI-12 stem - I wanted the bars to be on 
>> the wider side but was unsure about the look of a 31.8 bar/stem on a bike 
>> like the Platypus. The smooth taper on the Tosco helps. I knew I'd have 
>> about a fistfull of seat post showing and wanted the bars above the saddle 
>> but not too high. The UI-12 gets there but it is maxed out on height so the 
>> 31.8 flaceplaters that Riv sells are probably a better option for most 
>> (though with the 10 degree rise you'd need a longer faceplater to get the 
>> same extension as the horizontal UI-12). The Toscos allow for a big range 
>> in back angle depending on where you grip the bar - something I came to 
>> appreciate on my bikes with Jones bars. AME Tri grips with khaki Newbaum's 
>> on the bends.
>>
>> [image: R001-3707_bars.jpg]
>>
>> Tektro CL330 levers - these are inexpensive V-brake levers that work and 
>> feel good. I considered something fancier (VO, IRD, Paul) but liked the 
>> shape of these. The clamp is low profile enough that you can place your 
>> hands anywhere on/over it without really feeling it; no rubber plumbing 
>> washers needed. On bars as swept back as the Toscos I like to be able to 
>> pull against the front of the lever body near the clamp (kind of like hoods 
>> on drop bar levers) and these are wider and the edges radiused here to make 
>> that more comfortable. Sticking a bit of cloth tape there feels downright 
>> luxurious.
>>
>> Dia-Compe ENE shift levers on Velo Orange mounts - not cabled yet but 
>> I've test fit some cables and they seem good to go. A first gen Silver 
>> shift lever seemed fine on these mounts too, which makes sense as Dia-Compe 
>> makes them.
>>
>> Dia-Compe MX2 VC733 V-brakes - a BMX brake not unlike the Shimano DXR 
>> BR-MX70. Decent silvery finish. Good power and modulation. 116mm arms 
>> provide plenty of tire and/or fender clearance. Swap the pads (L<->R) to 
>> turn one into a front brake (they are marked for rotation direction). I 
>> also moved the spacers around on all the pad posts to get better arm 
>> alignment on the wide Cliffhanger rims.
>>
>> [image: R001-3703_brakes.jpg]
>>
>> Once the derailleurs are cabled the bike will be mostly finished but 
>> racks, bags, and lighting are still to come.
>>
>> Happy Thanksgiving!
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:40:09 AM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>> I really like the MKS Bear Trap pedals. They are very comfortable for my 
>> size 10-11 foot. 
>>
>> I have VP Thin gripsters and VP Vice pedals on other bikes, and MKS 
>> Sneaker Pedals on the HHH tandem. Those are all fine pedals-- I was 
>> surprised at the comfort of the Bear traps. (I wear thin-soled "barefoot 
>> style" shoes or sandals.)
>>
>> looking forward to seeing the final builds!
>> shoji
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 3:49:13 PM UTC-5 alancrai...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Here’s my build list:
>>
>> Frame & Fork: Rivendell Platypus, 60cm
>>
>> Headset: FSA Duron X1
>>
>> Bottom Bracket: Phil Wood 113/68
>>
>> Crank: Silver Low/Low

[RBW] Re: How are you building up your Platypus?

[Shoji Takahashi]

I really like the MKS Bear Trap pedals. They are very comfortable for my 
size 10-11 foot. 

I have VP Thin gripsters and VP Vice pedals on other bikes, and MKS Sneaker 
Pedals on the HHH tandem. Those are all fine pedals-- I was surprised at 
the comfort of the Bear traps. (I wear thin-soled "barefoot style" shoes or 
sandals.)

looking forward to seeing the final builds!
shoji



On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 3:49:13 PM UTC-5 alancrai...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Here’s my build list:
>
> Frame & Fork: Rivendell Platypus, 60cm
>
> Headset: FSA Duron X1
>
> Bottom Bracket: Phil Wood 113/68
>
> Crank: Silver Low/Low w/guard 34x24
>
> Cassette: Shimano XT 11-34
>
> Pedals: MKS Bear Trap, Silver+Black
>
> Handlebars: Nitto Bosco Bullmoose
>
> Brake Levers: Paul Canti Levers, Polished
>
> Brake Calipers: Paul Neo Retro, Polished
>
> Brake Hangers: Front - DiaCompe, Rear - Nitto AS-2, Silver
>
> Shift Levers: Rivendell Silver2 Thumbies
>
> Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT Rapid Rise NOS
>
> Front Derailleur: Campagnolo Mirage 9-speed Triple NOS
>
> Seat Post: Nitto S83, 26.8
>
> Saddle: Brooks B67, Black
>
> Hubs: White Industries MI5, 36 hole, Polished
>
> Rims: Velocity Atlas, 36 hole, Polished
>
> Tires: Soma Shikoro 700x42
>
> Fenders: SimWorks by Honjo Turtle 58, Silver
>
> Rack: Rivendell Nitto Basket Rack/Wald 137 Basket
>
> Kickstand: Velo Orange Copenhagen 
>
> Chain(s): KMC
>
> Grips: Brooks Leather Wrap Slender, Black
>
> Bottle Cages: King Iris
>
> Bell: Crane Brass, Rotary Action
>
> Front Bag: Acorn Bags Basket Bag, Black
>
> Seat Bag: Carradice Bingley, Black
>
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 12:11:51 PM UTC-8 aeroperf wrote:
>
>>
>> For those of us who have ordered a Platypus, and got a “raw” frame in a 
>> box, I’m interested in how people are building them up.  I’m also 
>> interested in how previous Platy people from the last batch (raw plus Riv 
>> builds) have built up theirs.
>>
>> I’m coming at this from:  This build is for my wife, so it has to be 
>> absolutely functional but also “attractive” in the Riv way.  I’ve built up 
>> a Sam and a Homer, and enjoyed both builds, but the Platy is slightly 
>> different.  I also am doing the build along with someone who owns a bike 
>> store, and also just got his Platy frame, so maybe I can pass along another 
>> (LBS) point of view as we go.
>>
>> I’ve seen some Platypus builds in the posts, Including “Peppermint 
>> Platy’s” build (I bow to Leah for being a class Platypus act).  Everybody 
>> does something a little different.  That’s the joy of this.
>>
>> For example, my wife wants a headlight/taillight and a wicker front 
>> basket.  No decision on fenders.  What works?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: How are you building up your Platypus?

[DavidP]

Besides looking at photos of built Platys here (this thread 
 
ended up collecting quite a few from the last round), I've been looking at 
instagram 
photos tagged #rivendellplatypus 
. Lots of 
inspiration there (including Alan's photos).

The 60cm I'm building is for myself and will be an all-rounder / gravelish 
build - so I'm also taking cues from Atlantis and Appaloosa builds. I'll be 
(almost) maxxing out the tires and thus will not be running fenders.

Assuming your question "What works?" is in regards to fenders - I'm come to 
appreciate metal fenders (and have had good experience with Velo Orange 
fenders). If you are concerned about the safety of metal fenders PDW makes 
safety tabs for metal fenders.

-Dave
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 3:11:51 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

>
> For those of us who have ordered a Platypus, and got a “raw” frame in a 
> box, I’m interested in how people are building them up.  I’m also 
> interested in how previous Platy people from the last batch (raw plus Riv 
> builds) have built up theirs.
>
> I’m coming at this from:  This build is for my wife, so it has to be 
> absolutely functional but also “attractive” in the Riv way.  I’ve built up 
> a Sam and a Homer, and enjoyed both builds, but the Platy is slightly 
> different.  I also am doing the build along with someone who owns a bike 
> store, and also just got his Platy frame, so maybe I can pass along another 
> (LBS) point of view as we go.
>
> I’ve seen some Platypus builds in the posts, Including “Peppermint 
> Platy’s” build (I bow to Leah for being a class Platypus act).  Everybody 
> does something a little different.  That’s the joy of this.
>
> For example, my wife wants a headlight/taillight and a wicker front 
> basket.  No decision on fenders.  What works?
>

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[RBW] Re: How are you building up your Platypus?

[Alan Barnard]

Here’s my build list:

Frame & Fork: Rivendell Platypus, 60cm

Headset: FSA Duron X1

Bottom Bracket: Phil Wood 113/68

Crank: Silver Low/Low w/guard 34x24

Cassette: Shimano XT 11-34

Pedals: MKS Bear Trap, Silver+Black

Handlebars: Nitto Bosco Bullmoose

Brake Levers: Paul Canti Levers, Polished

Brake Calipers: Paul Neo Retro, Polished

Brake Hangers: Front - DiaCompe, Rear - Nitto AS-2, Silver

Shift Levers: Rivendell Silver2 Thumbies

Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT Rapid Rise NOS

Front Derailleur: Campagnolo Mirage 9-speed Triple NOS

Seat Post: Nitto S83, 26.8

Saddle: Brooks B67, Black

Hubs: White Industries MI5, 36 hole, Polished

Rims: Velocity Atlas, 36 hole, Polished

Tires: Soma Shikoro 700x42

Fenders: SimWorks by Honjo Turtle 58, Silver

Rack: Rivendell Nitto Basket Rack/Wald 137 Basket

Kickstand: Velo Orange Copenhagen 

Chain(s): KMC

Grips: Brooks Leather Wrap Slender, Black

Bottle Cages: King Iris

Bell: Crane Brass, Rotary Action

Front Bag: Acorn Bags Basket Bag, Black

Seat Bag: Carradice Bingley, Black

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 12:11:51 PM UTC-8 aeroperf wrote:

>
> For those of us who have ordered a Platypus, and got a “raw” frame in a 
> box, I’m interested in how people are building them up.  I’m also 
> interested in how previous Platy people from the last batch (raw plus Riv 
> builds) have built up theirs.
>
> I’m coming at this from:  This build is for my wife, so it has to be 
> absolutely functional but also “attractive” in the Riv way.  I’ve built up 
> a Sam and a Homer, and enjoyed both builds, but the Platy is slightly 
> different.  I also am doing the build along with someone who owns a bike 
> store, and also just got his Platy frame, so maybe I can pass along another 
> (LBS) point of view as we go.
>
> I’ve seen some Platypus builds in the posts, Including “Peppermint 
> Platy’s” build (I bow to Leah for being a class Platypus act).  Everybody 
> does something a little different.  That’s the joy of this.
>
> For example, my wife wants a headlight/taillight and a wicker front 
> basket.  No decision on fenders.  What works?
>

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