Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?
It takes more than just a fork to transform a Riv into a randonneur, indeed. Most importantly, it takes some kooky person to sit in the saddle and turn the cranks and follow the cue sheet faithfully for between 7 and 90 hours. Anybody who's obsessing over fork rake or any other hardware triviality is missing the point. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?
On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 22:31 -0500, Alex Zeibot wrote: Low trail fork will not transform Rivendell into a complete randonneur bicycle. It takes more than just a fork. Plenty of Rivendells have been transformed into randonneur bicycles without any changes to the fork at all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?
Wow! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?
Alba's look cool with the black grips. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?
If you go with a short stem, you can get super upright. I had the short stem/alba (actually Soma Oxford, but whatever) on my Soma bike and it was seriously upright. I went with a longer (12cm) stem on my Riv with the Oxfords and it's a totally different feel; I can angle the bars down and lean into them now. On Friday, May 10, 2013 4:54:16 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Just wundrin if you can sit almost bolt upright with them on your Riv. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?
Whether the parts will let you achieve this position or no, has anyone asked whether it's a good idea to do so? n Fri, 2013-05-10 at 17:46 -0700, Scot Brooks wrote: If you go with a short stem, you can get super upright. I had the short stem/alba (actually Soma Oxford, but whatever) on my Soma bike and it was seriously upright. I went with a longer (12cm) stem on my Riv with the Oxfords and it's a totally different feel; I can angle the bars down and lean into them now. On Friday, May 10, 2013 4:54:16 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Just wundrin if you can sit almost bolt upright with them on your Riv. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?
If it works...it's a good idea -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?
Uh oh ... here we go again. :) What isn't a good idea for some ... perhaps many ... maybe even the overwhelming majority of active cyclists in this world ... may just be the only way one single individual is capable of getting out and enjoying a ride without pain. I know people with nice bikes who love riding, but due to injury, cannot ride while leaning forward even a little. A very upright riding posture may not be the best way to go fast ... and it may not be the best way to achieve an efficient and powerful position ... but it may be the only way to enjoy riding ... for some. Perhaps before we start judging whether something is a good or bad idea, we might simply and politely answer the question asked by the person posting ... and THEN if there's a question that might be important in return, politely ask them why they might want to do something that's outside the normal use. THEN ... if you have advice to offer that may be helpful within THEIR context, politely do so. BUT ... also accept that what YOU think is right or wrong ... good or bad ... may not apply to everyone (or anyone) else. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?
Who is judging? Steve just asked the question. This reaction seems a bit excessive. It's spring, fer gawd's sake, let's go and ride off our excess sensitivity. Patrick let's all get a life Moore who had a very nice ride on his Ram today and ***didn't even get a flat***. On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:28 PM, VeloZen b...@meadiaproductions.com wrote: Uh oh ... here we go again. :) What isn't a good idea for some ... perhaps many ... maybe even the overwhelming majority of active cyclists in this world ... may just be the only way one single individual is capable of getting out and enjoying a ride without pain. I know people with nice bikes who love riding, but due to injury, cannot ride while leaning forward even a little. A very upright riding posture may not be the best way to go fast ... and it may not be the best way to achieve an efficient and powerful position ... but it may be the only way to enjoy riding ... for some. Perhaps before we start judging whether something is a good or bad idea, we might simply and politely answer the question asked by the person posting ... and THEN if there's a question that might be important in return, politely ask them why they might want to do something that's outside the normal use. THEN ... if you have advice to offer that may be helpful within THEIR context, politely do so. BUT ... also accept that what YOU think is right or wrong ... good or bad ... may not apply to everyone (or anyone) else. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?
On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 19:28 -0700, VeloZen wrote: Uh oh ... here we go again. :) What isn't a good idea for some ... perhaps many ... maybe even the overwhelming majority of active cyclists in this world ... may just be the only way one single individual is capable of getting out and enjoying a ride without pain. I know people with nice bikes who love riding, but due to injury, cannot ride while leaning forward even a little. A very upright riding posture may not be the best way to go fast ... and it may not be the best way to achieve an efficient and powerful position ... but it may be the only way to enjoy riding ... for some. Granted; but for many, probably most, others it can be quite wrong for comfort as well as speed and efficiency. Perhaps before we start judging whether something is a good or bad idea, we might simply and politely answer the question asked by the person posting ... which had been done and THEN if there's a question that might be important in return, politely ask them why they might want to do something that's outside the normal use. THEN ... if you have advice to offer that may be helpful within THEIR context, politely do so. BUT ... also accept that what YOU think is right or wrong ... good or bad ... may not apply to everyone (or anyone) else. I think you're reading an awful lot into the simple question Has anyone asked whether it's a good idea to do so? When it come to technology we're very quick to ask how to do something, often don't even bother to ask whether we should do it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?
Low trail fork will not transform Rivendell into a complete randonneur bicycle. It takes more than just a fork. On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 19:28 -0700, VeloZen wrote: Uh oh ... here we go again. :) What isn't a good idea for some ... perhaps many ... maybe even the overwhelming majority of active cyclists in this world ... may just be the only way one single individual is capable of getting out and enjoying a ride without pain. I know people with nice bikes who love riding, but due to injury, cannot ride while leaning forward even a little. A very upright riding posture may not be the best way to go fast ... and it may not be the best way to achieve an efficient and powerful position ... but it may be the only way to enjoy riding ... for some. Granted; but for many, probably most, others it can be quite wrong for comfort as well as speed and efficiency. Perhaps before we start judging whether something is a good or bad idea, we might simply and politely answer the question asked by the person posting ... which had been done and THEN if there's a question that might be important in return, politely ask them why they might want to do something that's outside the normal use. THEN ... if you have advice to offer that may be helpful within THEIR context, politely do so. BUT ... also accept that what YOU think is right or wrong ... good or bad ... may not apply to everyone (or anyone) else. I think you're reading an awful lot into the simple question Has anyone asked whether it's a good idea to do so? When it come to technology we're very quick to ask how to do something, often don't even bother to ask whether we should do it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?
Anyone just ride a bike today? I have the flu and would rather hear about fun stuff and not drivel like trail. On May 10, 2013 11:31 PM, Alex Zeibot veloban...@gmail.com wrote: Low trail fork will not transform Rivendell into a complete randonneur bicycle. It takes more than just a fork. On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 19:28 -0700, VeloZen wrote: Uh oh ... here we go again. :) What isn't a good idea for some ... perhaps many ... maybe even the overwhelming majority of active cyclists in this world ... may just be the only way one single individual is capable of getting out and enjoying a ride without pain. I know people with nice bikes who love riding, but due to injury, cannot ride while leaning forward even a little. A very upright riding posture may not be the best way to go fast ... and it may not be the best way to achieve an efficient and powerful position ... but it may be the only way to enjoy riding ... for some. Granted; but for many, probably most, others it can be quite wrong for comfort as well as speed and efficiency. Perhaps before we start judging whether something is a good or bad idea, we might simply and politely answer the question asked by the person posting ... which had been done and THEN if there's a question that might be important in return, politely ask them why they might want to do something that's outside the normal use. THEN ... if you have advice to offer that may be helpful within THEIR context, politely do so. BUT ... also accept that what YOU think is right or wrong ... good or bad ... may not apply to everyone (or anyone) else. I think you're reading an awful lot into the simple question Has anyone asked whether it's a good idea to do so? When it come to technology we're very quick to ask how to do something, often don't even bother to ask whether we should do it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?
http://www.benscycle.net/images/870-995.jpg You can get as high as you like with them, using a Nitto quill adapter and a zero or greater degree threadless stem . http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=13753zenid=490e0d7e35095acc42d0c68d3657 If you want to use a traditional quill stem you are limited to a Nitto Tallux , which is not all that tall really because of the -17 degree rise. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
