Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar steerer too long?

2014-06-13 Thread cyclotourist
Thanks for the reply! I didn't want you to think I was being snarky or
dismissive at all. Just a thought that the frame looks big in the pic based
on the lack of seatpost and height of bars. Especially as Hunqs have a
sloping top tube. But if your top tube length is the same as other bikes...
well, don't know what to say then!

Cheers,
David

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On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote:

 David,

 Thanks for the input and your statement is fair.  I think that part of it
 is the angle of the photo. Part of it is the 2.5cm of headset spacers and
 part of it is that the spacer stack leaves the already tall Bullmoose bars
 a bit too high.  It seems that all my complaining about low bars and
 short head tubes has come around and bitten me in the tail!

 On paper, the top tube length and other dimensions are like most other
 bikes I ride.  The difference with the Hunqapillar seems to be that the
 front end is much higher via a tall headtube and long steerer tube.   When
 I look at photos of Hunqpillars across the internet, some saddles are
 high...some are low some bars are jacked way up...some are not.

 I've thought about going for a 47cm Atlantis but the top tube would be
 really short for me to use with a sweeping handlebar.  I already have an
 Albatrossed bike and a hardtail mountain bike. Drops are out of the
 question.

 That's why I'm thinking I should trim this fork by about 15mm...maybe even
 20mm...  I do have a spare cro-mo Albatross lying around and...maybe I
 should try that first.  It's just that the Bullmoose is so nice on bumpy
 trails.

 Thanks for any input, everyone!
 Ginz


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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar steerer too long?

2014-06-12 Thread Ginz
David,

Thanks for the input and your statement is fair.  I think that part of it 
is the angle of the photo. Part of it is the 2.5cm of headset spacers and 
part of it is that the spacer stack leaves the already tall Bullmoose bars 
a bit too high.  It seems that all my complaining about low bars and short 
head tubes has come around and bitten me in the tail!

On paper, the top tube length and other dimensions are like most other 
bikes I ride.  The difference with the Hunqapillar seems to be that the 
front end is much higher via a tall headtube and long steerer tube.   When 
I look at photos of Hunqpillars across the internet, some saddles are 
high...some are low some bars are jacked way up...some are not.

I've thought about going for a 47cm Atlantis but the top tube would be 
really short for me to use with a sweeping handlebar.  I already have an 
Albatrossed bike and a hardtail mountain bike. Drops are out of the 
question.

That's why I'm thinking I should trim this fork by about 15mm...maybe even 
20mm...  I do have a spare cro-mo Albatross lying around and...maybe I 
should try that first.  It's just that the Bullmoose is so nice on bumpy 
trails.

Thanks for any input, everyone!
Ginz


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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar steerer too long?

2014-06-12 Thread Hugh Flynn
Agreed re: bullmoose bars on bumpy trails. 

There's always time to cut the steerer later if you don't like the ride with 
the quill stem/bar combo. I've never loved Albatross bars because I think the 
rearward sweep is too much, but those Albastache bars are looking mighty comfy 
to me. Choices choices choices.

Hugh Spending as much time at the (handle) bars as I can Flynn
Newburyport, MA




On Jun 12, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Ginz wrote:

 David,
 
 Thanks for the input and your statement is fair.  I think that part of it is 
 the angle of the photo. Part of it is the 2.5cm of headset spacers and part 
 of it is that the spacer stack leaves the already tall Bullmoose bars a bit 
 too high.  It seems that all my complaining about low bars and short head 
 tubes has come around and bitten me in the tail!
 
 On paper, the top tube length and other dimensions are like most other bikes 
 I ride.  The difference with the Hunqapillar seems to be that the front end 
 is much higher via a tall headtube and long steerer tube.   When I look at 
 photos of Hunqpillars across the internet, some saddles are high...some are 
 low some bars are jacked way up...some are not.
 
 I've thought about going for a 47cm Atlantis but the top tube would be really 
 short for me to use with a sweeping handlebar.  I already have an Albatrossed 
 bike and a hardtail mountain bike. Drops are out of the question.
 
 That's why I'm thinking I should trim this fork by about 15mm...maybe even 
 20mm...  I do have a spare cro-mo Albatross lying around and...maybe I should 
 try that first.  It's just that the Bullmoose is so nice on bumpy trails.
 
 Thanks for any input, everyone!
 Ginz
 
 
 
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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar steerer too long?

2014-06-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
The Albastache may well be worth trying. I love them on the bounces and 
washboard. The grip position is similar to the bullmoose in that I can grip 
the bar firmly and brake with one or two fingers. Trouble is it takes a 
change of brake levers and switch to a 26 stem clamp, but you need a new 
stem for other bars anyway.

I'm with Hugh in that I'd try all reversible options before taking a 
hacksaw to it.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar steerer too long?

2014-06-12 Thread Ginz
Hmm...is there a super-high quality (Nitto) flat bar available?  That could 
work.




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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar steerer too long?

2014-06-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
Take your pick:
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=2657

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar steerer too long?

2014-06-12 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Yes-- Google Nitto flat bar. Straight bars, Priest bars, riser bars... 
lots-o-bars!

Also check out Soma's offerings. Nice, too, (not quite Nitto nice), but 
less expensive if you're experimenting.



On Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:02:40 AM UTC-4, Ginz wrote:

 Hmm...is there a super-high quality (Nitto) flat bar available?  That 
 could work.




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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar steerer too long?

2014-06-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
Personally, I grok the desire to stick with Nitto or at least Nitto-quality 
bars for rough stuff. Anything short of heat tempered and I won't touch it.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar steerer too long?

2014-06-12 Thread Garth


On Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:02:40 AM UTC-4, Ginz wrote:

 Hmm...is there a super-high quality (Nitto) flat bar available?  That 
 could work.


 Check 'em out ! 
 http://www16.ocn.ne.jp/~nitto210/bar-E.html
http://www.euroasiaimports.com/productcart/pc/Nitto-c1266.htm?pageStyle=hProdSort=19page=6idCategory=1266viewAll=yes

 Maybe ones like these :
https://www.outsideoutfitters.com/p-25049-nitto-flat-sweep-bar.aspx
http://www.euroasiaimports.com/productcart/pc/Nitto-B2522-AA-Handlebar-1266p17701.htm

And Alex Cycle in Japan has a bunch, some not seen in the US,  I think 
shipping to US is about $20. 
http://www.alexscycle.com/?subcats=Ytype=extendedstatus=Apshort=Ypfull=Ypname=Ypkeywords=Ysearch_performed=Ycid=166q=nittox=0y=0dispatch=products.search

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar steerer too long?

2014-06-11 Thread RJM
When I built up my Roadeo I had to cut the threaded part of the steer tube 
down to fit the Chris King headset and everything worked out fine. I used a 
clamp that I had that allows me to get a hacksaw blade perpendicular to the 
tube and remain steady and I just cut away. First, make sure you have a nut 
all the way down the threads, so when you are done cutting you unscrew the 
nut and it 'cleans' the threads that you sort of mangled by the cutting. It 
looks like you should be able to get at least a cm cut and take out one of 
your spacers. If you have a closer, more detailed shot of the top of your 
head tube it would help see how much you can get away with. 

On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 7:49:30 PM UTC-5, Ginz wrote:

 Hi Folks

 Here's a 48cm Hunqapillar cleaned up and ready for another camping trip.

 Sorry for the lousy photo. I'm not very tall and the Bullmoose bars are 
 VERY high even for my good taste in high bars -- even with the stem slammed.

 I am thinking of cutting the steerer down by 10 or 15mm.  That would leave 
 me with 15 or 10mm of spacer which should be plenty for doo-dads and brake 
 hangers.  Is there any chance that the stem quill would be getting to close 
 to the butted section?  Would I regret cutting it later?  I don't think I 
 would but perhaps I am not thinking of something.

 Thanks
 Ginz


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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar steerer too long?

2014-06-11 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Yes - on a threaded steerer use a guide.  You don't want to freehand cut 
across threads if you can avoid it.   And a good, sharp saw blade and 
plenty of oil.  

You do want to chase the threads afterwards, and RJM's suggestion is a nice 
hack. Not precisely a show finish but it will take care of much of the 
thread grunge. 

I would call RBW regarding butting specs on the steerer. You can't uncut it 
later. Well, not too easily...

- J

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar steerer too long?

2014-06-11 Thread Ginz
At the moment, I have 25mm of spacer plus the tange headset. 

Thanks for the replies. 

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar steerer too long?

2014-06-11 Thread Bill Lindsay


On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 5:49:30 PM UTC-7, Ginz wrote:

 Hi Folks

 Here's a 48cm Hunqapillar cleaned up and ready for another camping trip.

 Sorry for the lousy photo. I'm not very tall and the Bullmoose bars are 
 VERY high even for my good taste in high bars -- even with the stem slammed.

 I am thinking of cutting the steerer down by 10 or 15mm.  That would leave 
 me with 15 or 10mm of spacer which should be plenty for doo-dads and brake 
 hangers.  Is there any chance that the stem quill would be getting to close 
 to the butted section?  


Yes, there's a chance.  Measure before you cut.  The easiest thing would be 
to check how far a Tallux fits in there and compare on your Bosco quill. 
 If you dont have a long quill stem laying around, you'll have to figure 
out something else.
 

 Would I regret cutting it later?  


It won't help your resale value, but if you like the fit better you are 
less likely to want to sell it
 

 I don't think I would but perhaps I am not thinking of something.

 Thanks
 Ginz


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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar steerer too long?

2014-06-11 Thread Eric
Great looking bike!

Makes me want one!

Anyone know if Riv has a 54cm in stock!?




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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar steerer too long?

2014-06-11 Thread cyclotourist
I mean this only with the utmost kindness and consideration, but that bike
looks too big for you.

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great looking bike!

 Makes me want one!

 Anyone know if Riv has a 54cm in stock!?


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