[RBW] Re: ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[Pat Smith]

I may have to try that IRD FD. I've never been happy with the shifting on 
my triple 9 speed Tiagra 4503 and XT mullet build. I started with brifters 
and later moved to drop bar with the nice XTR trigger shifters. Bike is a 
Jamis Aurora Elite with long chainstays, which I assume would make shifting 
better. Tiagra 50/39/30 triple up front and 9 speed 11/34 cassette in the 
rear. A Shimano (M772 maybe?) Deore XT shadow RD and Tiagra FD. No matter 
what I get chain rub even with trimming and I find I have to increase cable 
tension too much to get consistent shifting into larger cogs which 
sometimes misses on down shifts. I've had my hanger checked for alignment 
and it's just something I've learned to live with.

Pat in DC

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 7:10:36 PM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the recommendations everyone. I thought about modifying the 
> fender to get that extra space, but would rather spend money to fix the 
> problem, hahaha! Joking aside I’d definitely prefer to just run parts that 
> work well for the job at hand. If that means swapping stuff out, then so be 
> it.
>
> I’ll definitely look into the derailleurs mentioned above. With that said, 
> if anyone has a derailleur laying around let me know. I wouldn’t have a 
> strong preference to one over the next, however if one pops up that’s clamp 
> on vs. a braze on, I’d prefer to go that route, but not a deal breaker if I 
> need to get an adapter.
>
> @ Kai, based on those photos you’d be absolutely right, but there’s about 
> 5-6mm of space between the chainring and the chainstay. It’s just the angle 
> of the photo that makes it look like it hates the chainstay!
>
> @ Peter, if nothing pops up here I’ll give you a ring!
>
> Also, sorry for the long winded post above. I wanted to provide info in 
> hopes that maybe this can help someone with a similar issue down the line.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 1:54:38 PM UTC-8 J Imler wrote:
>
>> I agree with Kai.
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 10:08:16 AM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>> NY wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know if there's a front derailleur to fix the clearance issue, 
>>> but looking at your photo from above, it looks like you need some more 
>>> clearance between your big ring and your chainstay. 
>>> A wider bottom bracket would fix everything, I think?
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 2:34:16 AM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Link to photos 

 On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 11:29:37 PM UTC-8 Todd G wrote:

> Link to images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ft4S7XXqfUA9bcX
>


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[RBW] Re: ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[Todd G]

Thanks for the recommendations everyone. I thought about modifying the 
fender to get that extra space, but would rather spend money to fix the 
problem, hahaha! Joking aside I’d definitely prefer to just run parts that 
work well for the job at hand. If that means swapping stuff out, then so be 
it.

I’ll definitely look into the derailleurs mentioned above. With that said, 
if anyone has a derailleur laying around let me know. I wouldn’t have a 
strong preference to one over the next, however if one pops up that’s clamp 
on vs. a braze on, I’d prefer to go that route, but not a deal breaker if I 
need to get an adapter.

@ Kai, based on those photos you’d be absolutely right, but there’s about 
5-6mm of space between the chainring and the chainstay. It’s just the angle 
of the photo that makes it look like it hates the chainstay!

@ Peter, if nothing pops up here I’ll give you a ring!

Also, sorry for the long winded post above. I wanted to provide info in 
hopes that maybe this can help someone with a similar issue down the line.





On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 1:54:38 PM UTC-8 J Imler wrote:

> I agree with Kai.
>
> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 10:08:16 AM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
> NY wrote:
>
>> I don't know if there's a front derailleur to fix the clearance issue, 
>> but looking at your photo from above, it looks like you need some more 
>> clearance between your big ring and your chainstay. 
>> A wider bottom bracket would fix everything, I think?
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 2:34:16 AM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Link to photos 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 11:29:37 PM UTC-8 Todd G wrote:
>>>
 Link to images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ft4S7XXqfUA9bcX

>>>

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[RBW] Re: ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[J Imler]

I agree with Kai.

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 10:08:16 AM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> I don't know if there's a front derailleur to fix the clearance issue, but 
> looking at your photo from above, it looks like you need some more 
> clearance between your big ring and your chainstay. 
> A wider bottom bracket would fix everything, I think?
> -Kai
>
> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 2:34:16 AM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Link to photos 
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 11:29:37 PM UTC-8 Todd G wrote:
>>
>>> Link to images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ft4S7XXqfUA9bcX
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I don't know if there's a front derailleur to fix the clearance issue, but 
looking at your photo from above, it looks like you need some more 
clearance between your big ring and your chainstay. 
A wider bottom bracket would fix everything, I think?
-Kai

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 2:34:16 AM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:

> Link to photos 
>
> On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 11:29:37 PM UTC-8 Todd G wrote:
>
>> Link to images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ft4S7XXqfUA9bcX
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[jamin orrall]

A cx-70 may work for you, it shifts a triple perfectly for me and doesn't 
seem to swing too much.

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 5:37:16 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:

> IRD Alpina
>
> [image: bomb1 (2).jpg]
>
> Laing
>
> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 2:20:13 AM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I’m looking for a recommendation for a clamp on 9-speed triple front 
>> derailleur for a Toyo built Atlantis. I’m currently running an old 9-speed 
>> LX front derailleur that shifts beautifully. I recently purchased some VO 
>> fenders and got them installed pretty easily. The only issue that I’m 
>> having is that while shifting, the long/tall arm of the front derailleur 
>> wants to move into the front fender as I shift into the small ring. 
>>
>> To help remedy the situation, I swapped out the stock derailleur cable 
>> clamp bolt and washer for low profile Panhead screw, which got me a little 
>> real estate (image #1). In conjunction with the clamp bolt, I shimmed out 
>> the bottom of the fender at the chain stay bridge with an 11mm alloy spacer 
>> and a leather washer on either side to help push it away from the 
>> derailleur arm (image #3). This set up works in the stand, and the fender 
>> line is pretty good. With that said, my main concern at this point is that 
>> I’ve now pushed the bottom of the fender closer to the rear wheel. At the 
>> chain stay bridge, I used a stainless M5 bolt, but want to replace this 
>> with a low profile Panhead bolt as well, as there isn’t much space between 
>> the bolt head and the tire. “Not much space” translates to about 3-4mm or 
>> so, which it too close for my taste. So, if I were to install a Panhead 
>> bolt at the chain stay bridge I could probably call it good. So yeah, this 
>> setup will work as is, but I feel like I can get the rear set up pretty 
>> close to perfect if I were to just swap out the derailleur. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[Garth]

Without actually being there to see how much it hits, my first thought is 
depending how much it hits, to dimple the fender in that spot that's 
only "if" it's but a few mm's. Otherwise, most Microshift FD,s like the 
R539 use a relatively shorter swing arm than most. It's designed for large 
road rings though, so the arc may or may not work for you.
https://www.jensonusa.com/globalassets/product-images---all-assets/microshift/fd196b02.jpg

All the stubby mtb Shimano/Microshift styles are designed completely 
different and don't get in the way, but they are designed for 42/44t rings. 
If that works for try one of those. 

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[RBW] Re: ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[Todd G]

Link to photos 

On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 11:29:37 PM UTC-8 Todd G wrote:

> Link to images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ft4S7XXqfUA9bcX
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[RBW] Re: ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[Todd G]

Link to images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ft4S7XXqfUA9bcX

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[RBW] Re: ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[Todd G]

Continuation from above...

With that said, can anyone recommend a nice 9-speed triple front derailleur 
that doesn’t require as much space for the arm to actuate? I think that if 
I were to replace the derailleur with a derailleur that doesn’t require as 
much real estate, this would possibly solve all issues. Then I could run a 
smaller spacer at the chain stay bridge and get much better clearance 
between the bolt and rear tire.

Thanks for reading this far! Hope that made sense to someone other than 
myself.



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