[RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-07 Thread Eric Peterson
I've seen you post on this subject before.
Are you saying you've gone three days without eating anything, while being 
physically active?
Somehow that does not seem healthy to me.
Surely there are some downsides to such behavior?

Eric Peterson

On Friday, September 5, 2014 5:05:44 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 True, Garth, as far as it goes. But there is a clear choice: Burn 
 primarily carbs, or burn primarily fat. The body has enough carbs in system 
 for 1-2 hours before crashing, enough fat for days (I've done three days) 
 before crashing (though after a day the intensity drops as the body has to 
 replenish carbs via the liver). A lot of people don't realize they don't 
 have to eat constantly while physically active, while still being able to 
 perform equally well if not better. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick


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[RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-07 Thread Deacon Patrick
Yes, Eric. 5-8 hours of bike riding on mountain trails each of the three 
days, without food (I had it with me, just was never hungry). Usually, I 
eat once a day. Once you understand that our body has enough fat to power 
us easily for a long time (even if you're down to 5% body fat), and once 
you have your body trained to function and excel in fat burning mode (vs 
fat storing mode, which is triggered by eating carbs), then going for three 
days is not a big deal, though I've only done it a couple times as I'm 
usually perfectly happy to eat my meal a day when I'm out there (I eat two 
a day at home).

So a 8-10 hour ride without is really no big deal. Seriously. Google fat 
burning vs. storing and see what you get.

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Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-07 Thread Patrick Moore
This reminds me of my teenage days when I would go out for 4 hour Sunday
afternoon rides, pushing the pace from the driveway, in hilly terrain at 5
to 7K feet under the equatorial African sun - 90 miles south of the
equator. Heavy bikes with limited gearing, too, and concrete tires. It
never occurred to me to take food, or water for that matter. On the return,
I'd see white spots on the road and have to bail to foot at every little
incline.

Young, stupid, and healthy, I guess.

On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Eric Peterson peterson.er...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I've seen you post on this subject before.
 Are you saying you've gone three days without eating anything, while being
 physically active?
 Somehow that does not seem healthy to me.
 Surely there are some downsides to such behavior?

 Eric Peterson

 On Friday, September 5, 2014 5:05:44 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 True, Garth, as far as it goes. But there is a clear choice: Burn
 primarily carbs, or burn primarily fat. The body has enough carbs in system
 for 1-2 hours before crashing, enough fat for days (I've done three days)
 before crashing (though after a day the intensity drops as the body has to
 replenish carbs via the liver). A lot of people don't realize they don't
 have to eat constantly while physically active, while still being able to
 perform equally well if not better.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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  * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never
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Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
* Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to
look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
in your time and your body can they be?*
* Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried.
Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where
Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of
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Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-07 Thread Patrick Moore
Actually -- no food, water, or forethought -- this was my version of just
ride!

On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 This reminds me of my teenage days when I would go out for 4 hour Sunday
 afternoon rides, pushing the pace from the driveway, in hilly terrain at 5
 to 7K feet under the equatorial African sun - 90 miles south of the
 equator. Heavy bikes with limited gearing, too, and concrete tires. It
 never occurred to me to take food, or water for that matter. On the return,
 I'd see white spots on the road and have to bail to foot at every little
 incline.

 Young, stupid, and healthy, I guess.

 On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Eric Peterson peterson.er...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've seen you post on this subject before.
 Are you saying you've gone three days without eating anything, while
 being physically active?
 Somehow that does not seem healthy to me.
 Surely there are some downsides to such behavior?

 Eric Peterson

 On Friday, September 5, 2014 5:05:44 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 True, Garth, as far as it goes. But there is a clear choice: Burn
 primarily carbs, or burn primarily fat. The body has enough carbs in system
 for 1-2 hours before crashing, enough fat for days (I've done three days)
 before crashing (though after a day the intensity drops as the body has to
 replenish carbs via the liver). A lot of people don't realize they don't
 have to eat constantly while physically active, while still being able to
 perform equally well if not better.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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 *
   * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to
 never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from
 it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
 * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to
 look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
 it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
 somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
 daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
 all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
 any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
 because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
 in your time and your body can they be?*
 * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried.
 Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where
 Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of
 you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood  *




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  * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never
was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it.
Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
* Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to
look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
in your time and your body can they be?*
* Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried.
Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where
Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of
you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood  *

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Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-07 Thread lungimsam
But isn't Atkins and protein fat only diets bad for your arteries?

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Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-07 Thread Chris Chen
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:43 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 But isn't Atkins and protein fat only diets bad for your arteries?

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[RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-07 Thread Garth

The Hummingbird and the Polar Bear each travel great distance .  . . . yet 
each get to their destination :)

  In the Spirit of this Forum .  . . . .

   Love what you be without any reason .  .. .   and all the eating and 
riding and life stuff works itself out  


 Guaranteed 


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Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-07 Thread Deacon Patrick
Only if you think cholesterol is bad for you. I recommend reading Grain 
Brain. Cholesterol is required for brain health and is NOT a marker for 
heart health or the clogging of arteries.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, September 7, 2014 4:43:34 PM UTC-6, lungimsam wrote:

 But isn't Atkins and protein fat only diets bad for your arteries?

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Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-07 Thread justinaugust
Don't worry - Olympic weight lifters and Crossfitters are now abandoning paleo 
and going to talk about their Macros now. It's the circle. The cicle 
of Le


:)
-Justin, To eat his own, in Oakland

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Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-07 Thread Patrick Moore
I say: let's keep this thread going in the hope of seeing more
silly-entertaining videos and comments.

Patrick Moore, who, working on the Project From Hell, had only time to
stuff mouthfuls of odds and ends into his mouth and, as for riding, are you
kidding?

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  * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never
was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it.
Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
* Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to
look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
in your time and your body can they be?*
* Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried.
Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where
Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of
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[RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-06 Thread Daniel D.
Why wouldn't I want food within 24 hours?  Food tastes great.

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[RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
If it's less than 24 hours, who needs food? Oh. Yeah. Poor blighters who 
eat carbs. Grin.

With abandon,
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 http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/store-cupboard-cycling-fuel-29335/ 

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Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-05 Thread Eric Norris
I eat pretty much everything, and I generally need to eat every .24 hours ... 

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On Sep 5, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 If it's less than 24 hours, who needs food? Oh. Yeah. Poor blighters who eat 
 carbs. Grin.
 
 With abandon,
 Patrick
 
 On Friday, September 5, 2014 7:08:34 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
 http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/store-cupboard-cycling-fuel-29335/ 
 
 (Source: https://twitter.com/bikeradar/status/507825663550967808) 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
Impressive, Eric. So on an 8-10 hour ride you wouldn't bring or eat any 
food?

With abandon,
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On Friday, September 5, 2014 9:53:50 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:

 I eat pretty much everything, and I generally need to eat every .24 hours 
 … 

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 On Sep 5, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 If it's less than 24 hours, who needs food? Oh. Yeah. Poor blighters who 
 eat carbs. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, September 5, 2014 7:08:34 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:

 http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/store-cupboard-cycling-fuel-29335/ 

 (Source: https://twitter.com/bikeradar/status/507825663550967808) 


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Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-05 Thread Eric Norris
Actually, yes. On that ride, I would need to eat 32-40 times :-)

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On Sep 5, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Impressive, Eric. So on an 8-10 hour ride you wouldn't bring or eat any food?
 
 With abandon,
 Patrick
 
 On Friday, September 5, 2014 9:53:50 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
 I eat pretty much everything, and I generally need to eat every .24 hours ... 
 
 --Eric Norris
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 campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
 
 On Sep 5, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:
 
 If it's less than 24 hours, who needs food? Oh. Yeah. Poor blighters who eat 
 carbs. Grin.
 
 With abandon,
 Patrick
 
 On Friday, September 5, 2014 7:08:34 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
 http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/store-cupboard-cycling-fuel-29335/ 
 
 (Source: https://twitter.com/bikeradar/status/507825663550967808) 
 
 
 Eric N 
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Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
A. You eat every 15 minutes? Gadzooks! I'd missed the decimal before 
the 24.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, September 5, 2014 10:10:19 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:

 Actually, yes. On that ride, I would need to eat 32-40 times :-)

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 On Sep 5, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Impressive, Eric. So on an 8-10 hour ride you wouldn't bring or eat any 
 food?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, September 5, 2014 9:53:50 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:

 I eat pretty much everything, and I generally need to eat every .24 hours 
 … 

 --Eric Norris
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 On Sep 5, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:

 If it's less than 24 hours, who needs food? Oh. Yeah. Poor blighters who 
 eat carbs. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, September 5, 2014 7:08:34 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:

 http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/store-cupboard-cycling-fuel-29335/ 

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Re: [RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-05 Thread Eric Norris
If I can, yes. Gets a little tough out in the country.

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On Sep 5, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 A. You eat every 15 minutes? Gadzooks! I'd missed the decimal before the 
 24.
 
 With abandon,
 Patrick
 
 On Friday, September 5, 2014 10:10:19 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
 Actually, yes. On that ride, I would need to eat 32-40 times :-)
 
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 On Sep 5, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Impressive, Eric. So on an 8-10 hour ride you wouldn't bring or eat any food?
 
 With abandon,
 Patrick
 
 On Friday, September 5, 2014 9:53:50 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
 I eat pretty much everything, and I generally need to eat every .24 hours 
 ... 
 
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 On Sep 5, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:
 
 If it's less than 24 hours, who needs food? Oh. Yeah. Poor blighters who 
 eat carbs. Grin.
 
 With abandon,
 Patrick
 
 On Friday, September 5, 2014 7:08:34 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
 http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/store-cupboard-cycling-fuel-29335/ 
 
 (Source: https://twitter.com/bikeradar/status/507825663550967808) 
 
 
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[RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-05 Thread Garth

People eat everything under the Sun  .  . ..  lol  

and that's what it's there for  !  


What you eat only matters to the extent you make it a matter , and you can 
quote me on that !  


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[RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
True, Garth, as far as it goes. But there is a clear choice: Burn primarily 
carbs, or burn primarily fat. The body has enough carbs in system for 1-2 
hours before crashing, enough fat for days (I've done three days) before 
crashing (though after a day the intensity drops as the body has to 
replenish carbs via the liver). A lot of people don't realize they don't 
have to eat constantly while physically active, while still being able to 
perform equally well if not better. 

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: In-Racer Sports Nutrition?

2014-09-05 Thread Lynne Fitz
Well said Garth.

I try to drink something with calories/electrolytes every 15-20 minutes, when 
riding something longer than 200k.  (Not racing, trust me on this one)
But the convenience store has useful foods like V-8, grapefruit juice, canned 
coffee drinks, Gatorade, fig bars, nuts, bananas, Pop Tarts (I have never gone 
there), corn dogs (nor there either), hard boiled eggs, deviled eggs, premade 
sandwiches (yuck).

For the homebrew enthusiast, the Italian Fruitcake recipe in the Moosewood 
Desserts cookbook is amazing.  Peanut butter and/or Nutella on raisin bread.  
Any of Allen Lim's rice cake creations, too.

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