Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Yeah it's much better to read about everyone trying to describe about how they can tell the differences between ruffy tuffy and roly poly. On Wednesday, March 21, 2012, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Don't *you* start! It was already kicked off the iBob list by the moderatorsintheir infinitewisdombelieveitornot. I say, if you pedal it, it counts. Actually, I've been told that you can learn to lean them, but that woud take away the entire point -- the fun of cornering with all three wheels on the ground. On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:41 PM, davidfrench nydavidfo...@gmail.com wrote: Is this thing a tricycle? What don't lean like a bike is not a bike! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Rg2FltRjVSAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
VW Eurovan Camper if you can find one. D.G. On Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:02:42 PM UTC-7, z-man wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6HpzITIa4coJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Patrick, what about this one: http://images.caradisiac.com/images/3/1/9/9/33199/S0-J-aime-du-jour-Citroen-Tube-vs-Renault-Estafette-135216.jpg Citroen Tub! :-) I saw one in San Francisco. I guess it belong to a bike shop in Russian Hill... This is the perfect vehicle (and pardon me even if I'm french I'm not into tour de France, but I'm sure this Citroen was used extensively during the race, back in the days) :-) Larry, nice to meet (virtually) another eurovan owner! Rex, try a Eurovan, or put that hitch on the Subaru. My Hollywood Rack can take any kind of bikes, fenders or not. http://www.hollywoodracks.com/bike-racks/hitch-racks/sportrider-hitch-rack-4.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rK8as66D6xMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
I have to bow before superiority. That does take the cake. How's about this: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/Late70sOrEarly80sKenRogersBRT?authkey=Gv1sRgCMa-k8S2v-XZbg#5702101096963401378 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM, davidfrench nydavidfo...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, what about this one: http://images.caradisiac.com/images/3/1/9/9/33199/S0-J-aime-du-jour-Citroen-Tube-vs-Renault-Estafette-135216.jpg Citroen Tub! :-) I saw one in San Francisco. I guess it belong to a bike shop in Russian Hill... This is the perfect vehicle (and pardon me even if I'm french I'm not into tour de France, but I'm sure this Citroen was used extensively during the race, back in the days) :-) Larry, nice to meet (virtually) another eurovan owner! Rex, try a Eurovan, or put that hitch on the Subaru. My Hollywood Rack can take any kind of bikes, fenders or not. http://www.hollywoodracks.com/bike-racks/hitch-racks/sportrider-hitch-rack-4.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rK8as66D6xMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Is this thing a tricycle? What don't lean like a bike is not a bike! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Rg2FltRjVSAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Don't *you* start! It was already kicked off the iBob list by the moderatorsintheir infinitewisdombelieveitornot. I say, if you pedal it, it counts. Actually, I've been told that you can learn to lean them, but that woud take away the entire point -- the fun of cornering with all three wheels on the ground. On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:41 PM, davidfrench nydavidfo...@gmail.com wrote: Is this thing a tricycle? What don't lean like a bike is not a bike! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Rg2FltRjVSAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Hi, very late on the topic, but for a -used- solution, I bought a VW Eurovan from 2001 (I wasn't in the market for new vehicle which is fine cause VW stopped importing those). I put a hitch and a 4-bikes rack from Hollywood in the back. Works great and there's even room for my wife's surf boards inside! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/u-m7_AH3emMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
I find that carrying my big bikes in/on vehicles is a pain... They're too tall to fit IN the car -- with the front wheel off, my 67 cm AHH BARELY fits in the back of my Subaru Outback with the seats down. They're too accessorized to fit ON the car -- fender or front lowrider rack prevents using fork mount racks, water bottle cages prevent using downtube mount racks, fenders prevent using over the tire type racks, etc. I've always hated hitch mounted racks, though I do have one... problem is, I don't have a receiver hitch on my Subie. I did manage to get some of my bikes to work on a fork mount by removing the wheel tray and leaving just the fork mount bolted to the front crossbar, and just cinch the rear wheel down to the rear crossbar, with the bars spaced exactly for the wheelbase of my bikes. Having the tray removed allows the fender to drop down below the crossbar, BARELY clearing the roof, though requiring the mudflap to be bent back. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:08 AM, davidfrench nydavidfo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, very late on the topic, but for a -used- solution, I bought a VW Eurovan from 2001 (I wasn't in the market for new vehicle which is fine cause VW stopped importing those). I put a hitch and a 4-bikes rack from Hollywood in the back. Works great and there's even room for my wife's surf boards inside! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/u-m7_AH3emMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
One word: Citroen Acadiane. https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/Acadiane#5720999573577885634 Carries my Ken Rogers tricycle with no need for disassembly. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: I find that carrying my big bikes in/on vehicles is a pain... They're too tall to fit IN the car -- with the front wheel off, my 67 cm AHH BARELY fits in the back of my Subaru Outback with the seats down. They're too accessorized to fit ON the car -- fender or front lowrider rack prevents using fork mount racks, water bottle cages prevent using downtube mount racks, fenders prevent using over the tire type racks, etc. I've always hated hitch mounted racks, though I do have one... problem is, I don't have a receiver hitch on my Subie. I did manage to get some of my bikes to work on a fork mount by removing the wheel tray and leaving just the fork mount bolted to the front crossbar, and just cinch the rear wheel down to the rear crossbar, with the bars spaced exactly for the wheelbase of my bikes. Having the tray removed allows the fender to drop down below the crossbar, BARELY clearing the roof, though requiring the mudflap to be bent back. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:08 AM, davidfrench nydavidfo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, very late on the topic, but for a -used- solution, I bought a VW Eurovan from 2001 (I wasn't in the market for new vehicle which is fine cause VW stopped importing those). I put a hitch and a 4-bikes rack from Hollywood in the back. Works great and there's even room for my wife's surf boards inside! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/u-m7_AH3emMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
I have a 99 VW Eurovan Camper which does a great job of hauling two bikes and two people. Lots of bikers I know have Honda Elements. Two or three bikes easily fit in the rear with two passengers up front. Too bad they stopped making it. Larry LA CA On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:08 AM, davidfrench nydavidfo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, very late on the topic, but for a -used- solution, I bought a VW Eurovan from 2001 (I wasn't in the market for new vehicle which is fine cause VW stopped importing those). I put a hitch and a 4-bikes rack from Hollywood in the back. Works great and there's even room for my wife's surf boards inside! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/u-m7_AH3emMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
I ride my bike mostlywhen I have transported I have used a rack outside or I slide it into the bed of my truck when I have the canopy on. We used to have an Astro Van that I could load four bikes into easily. These days I drive a 92 Suzuki Swift (38 mpg) and can't haul a bike without taking the wheels off and/or taking off the fenders so I just ride to my destinations. A Bike Friday folder is nice to own when you are traveling by car often and I may get one in the future, depending. You may consider SS couplers then you could toss it into any small car. Way less expensive than buying a new car. Heck you could even get a special coupled bike when traveling for less. On Jan 13, 3:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Make it at least four for the Element. It¹s not sporty in the least. We bought it because it¹s light for its size, its rugged interior can be configured variously, and because it can haul bicycles standing up with wheels on ‹ at least as tall as my 60.5 cm Rivendell custom. We can put three people and three bikes inside the car if we remove a back seat. It has only four seats though, so now that we have twins, the bikes ride on a hitch-mounted rack out back. Ironic, huh? Also, please note that Honda has announced the end of production for this model, and probably won¹t support it as long as I plan to keep it ‹ which is approximately for the rest of my life. Ours has been very reliable ‹ no repairs outside normal maintenance for 50k miles now. -- Jon ³Papa² Grant Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 Drawings ‹ all sorts From: robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:55:34 -0500 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike? Well, Jim, that was the initial concern. I have a pick-up that is my company work truck and have a bed rack in there. So far so good. But it's when one wants to travel, and you are staying overnight, or you stop for a bite to eat, or it's really raining. These are pretty nice bikes that can get crudded up pretty quickly, components aged quickly and in the case of a Brooks, potentially ruined. As I'm ending up w/ more time to be able to wander around, I was just looking for the type of vehicle described here and depending on the generosity of this group to relay their experiences. So far that's 3 for the Element. It ain't the sportiest thing out there to be sure but it does make sense. RGZ On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:41 AM, jim phillips thefamil...@hotmail.com wrote: Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? That is how I am transporting my Sam Hillborne (aka Crazy Horse). Is there a downside to that? best, JimP Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike? From: t...@cox.net Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:02:56 -0500 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I have a Honda Element too and I think it is ideal for a bike and gear carrier. I use fork holders mounted on pieces of old Trex decking to lower the bikes to make easy entrance to rear hatch. As an exercise I managed to fit four bikes alternating front ends and back ends but three is more practical (this is with both seats removed). As to comfort, I have made two trips to the mountains of Colorado from Cleveland with my element which were ok sitting in the front seat. I made a trip to North Carolina with four guys in the car where I got to sit in the back which was annoying with the rear seat theater seating. However, on all those trips the mpg was right around 30 mpg on the interstates. On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote: I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram vertically inside The Toaster. I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is easy to clean up. I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. Angus On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front seat comfort too. Thanks for your insight (no pun). Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: j4gitr jstoes...@comcast.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and the Katy trail with my 6'4 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever owned. I'm 6'6 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been driving it for 4 years now. On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you
RE: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
I just went out to put my bike in our element. I guess the lower bottom bracket makes a difference because my old / sold / X race bike the seat was to high to stand up in the element. No the AHH if I turn it sideways to get it past the entrance I can just barely stand it up.then I have to put the front wheel in first and turn it sideways at the front seat or it's too long to fit. Took two of us to wiggle it in. For long trip with just the wife and I it would be ok.. but not worth fighting on a regular basis to me. So I'll keep using the roof racks on my escape. Note if like my you find your fenders too long for standard roof racks .. mine works great with my tandem rack and I found a place that sells singles with the sole intent to be high enough for fenders. At 115 bucks I am going to order one and see how it is. I think and won't swear to it that it was made by draftmaster. Kelly From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Grant Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:13 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? Make it at least four for the Element. It's not sporty in the least. We bought it because it's light for its size, its rugged interior can be configured variously, and because it can haul bicycles standing up with wheels on - at least as tall as my 60.5 cm Rivendell custom. We can put three people and three bikes inside the car if we remove a back seat. It has only four seats though, so now that we have twins, the bikes ride on a hitch-mounted rack out back. Ironic, huh? Also, please note that Honda has announced the end of production for this model, and probably won't support it as long as I plan to keep it - which is approximately for the rest of my life. Ours has been very reliable - no repairs outside normal maintenance for 50k miles now. -- Jon Papa Grant Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 Drawings - all sorts _ From: robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:55:34 -0500 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike? Well, Jim, that was the initial concern. I have a pick-up that is my company work truck and have a bed rack in there. So far so good. But it's when one wants to travel, and you are staying overnight, or you stop for a bite to eat, or it's really raining. These are pretty nice bikes that can get crudded up pretty quickly, components aged quickly and in the case of a Brooks, potentially ruined. As I'm ending up w/ more time to be able to wander around, I was just looking for the type of vehicle described here and depending on the generosity of this group to relay their experiences. So far that's 3 for the Element. It ain't the sportiest thing out there to be sure but it does make sense. RGZ On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:41 AM, jim phillips thefamil...@hotmail.com wrote: Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? That is how I am transporting my Sam Hillborne (aka Crazy Horse). Is there a downside to that? best, JimP Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike? From: t...@cox.net Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:02:56 -0500 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I have a Honda Element too and I think it is ideal for a bike and gear carrier. I use fork holders mounted on pieces of old Trex decking to lower the bikes to make easy entrance to rear hatch. As an exercise I managed to fit four bikes alternating front ends and back ends but three is more practical (this is with both seats removed). As to comfort, I have made two trips to the mountains of Colorado from Cleveland with my element which were ok sitting in the front seat. I made a trip to North Carolina with four guys in the car where I got to sit in the back which was annoying with the rear seat theater seating. However, on all those trips the mpg was right around 30 mpg on the interstates. On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote: I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram vertically inside The Toaster. I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is easy to clean up. I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. Angus On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front seat comfort too. Thanks for your insight (no pun). Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
That's what I've been looking for! Please let us, (forget them, tell only me), know if the single unit works with fenders. What's the brand/web site? Bill Louisville, Ky On Jan 15, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: Note if like my you find your fenders too long for standard roof racks .. mine works great with my tandem rack and I found a place that sells singles with the sole intent to be high enough for fenders. At 115 bucks I am going to order one and see how it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Ok William I'll whisper the link to you only.. http://atoc.com/biketopper.php Then scroll down to the BT-HT47 ... that is the one I'm buying. My Tandem topper is a Rockymount.. haven't check to see if they make something. Kelly William Pustow wrote: That's what I've been looking for! Please let us, (forget them, tell only me), know if the single unit works with fenders. What's the brand/web site? Bill Louisville, Ky On Jan 15, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: Note if like my you find your fenders too long for standard roof racks .. mine works great with my tandem rack and I found a place that sells singles with the sole intent to be high enough for fenders. At 115 bucks I am going to order one and see how it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and the Katy trail with my 6'4 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever owned. I'm 6'6 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been driving it for 4 years now. On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Good luck with that. I had a General Motors mini van 6 years ago that I could do that with. When I got my Ford Mini 2 Years later I couldn't do it any more becauseof a bench rear seat an not enough length for my bikes anyway. Then went to roof racks. We are now looking at a full sized van. I don't think my bikes would fit inside a wranger without lowering the seat .. then I don't see the length with a rear seat. Since buying my Rivendells I've had a nightmare with roof mounts too. The only rack that works well is my tandem rack for fender clearance. I found a simliar design at draftmaster which is made for bikes with fenders. At 114 bucks I may have to buy some to replace my thules. I forgot to mention that locking the bikes to the roof has worked well ...though I hate the bugs and such.. the bra's just add wind resistance and kill gas milage dramatically. Kelly Good luck with that. robert zeidler wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Standard loading procedure: 1. Take front wheel off. Lean front wheel on side of vehicle. 2. Slide Homer in trunk of vehicle, back wheel first. Homer must be diagonal to fit fully. 3. Place front wheel in remaining open space in vehicle securely. RGZ - why not build a stand for your wheels? Sounds like a fun winter project and an excuse to go down to the hardware store ;) For us tall guys, it helps if you have an SUV / Station Wagon. I've contemplated loading it in a car with the rear seats folded. To do this I'd remove both front and rear wheels, lower the seat post and stem and then slide it in. I'm considering a car-rack/trailer hitch for vacationing this spring and summer ... anyone have any experience with Yakima or Thule tow- hitch racks? Ami On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Take a look at the Ford Transit connect. My buddy has one and we get two decent sized bikes in there. I can get my 63cm bikes into the VW Golf, but that is with one rear seat removed and the other folded down. Even with that the seat is like 1/8 from the headliner and people cringe when I shut the back hatch. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/5254096133/in/set-72157625583483616/ Smaller than the TC above and you a likely looking at seat removal, other than that you are in van territory. I dream of a Dodge Sprinter. Rob On Jan 13, 3:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
I drive a 2010 Prius and have no trouble carrying either two full size bikes, or our Bilenkey, coupled touring tandem inside the car. Last summer we went from Vt to MI and back with the tandem inside our car. I have a Saris hitch rack that quickly carries two single bikes or the tandem in two parts, on the rack. My Thule Tandem roof rack, which is a rebranded ATOC Carrier, can carry the tandem, or a single bike, with fenders, on the roof. I have also used a Thule carrier (Criterium) that grips the down tube and therefore allows for fenders and quick access. I easily carry a 19 1/2 foot expedition canoe on top of my Prius, and the hatchback makes accessing equipment pretty easy. Last month, I drove up to an outlet and bought a full size, seven foot Christmas tree. The seller was amazed as I quickly tied up the entire tree, slid it inside my car and closed the hatchback for the drive home. You can't do that with an SUV. Frankly, an SUV like the Jeep, is the least useful shape for carrying cargo, and the van and mini van, while quite useful for many applications, are overkill for people who occasionally carry large items. michael, westford, vt. On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
