[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
Yeah, that's odd. Maybe ask them about it? All the other parts seem reasonably priced. On Saturday, January 25, 2020 at 8:37:01 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: > > I just went over to buy something I needed from Rivendell, inspired by > your post. > They want $42 for a UN55 bottom bracket. A bottom bracket with an MSRP of > $25 and a normal retail price between $15 and $20. > > Philip > Santa Rosa, CA > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f7fdb6e3-fce7-41db-a124-ae844ff303de%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
I just went over to buy something I needed from Rivendell, inspired by your post. They want $42 for a UN55 bottom bracket. A bottom bracket with an MSRP of $25 and a normal retail price between $15 and $20. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ed25138f-4d2a-4dfa-b423-1cbc74492aac%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
Building bikes designed to last a lifetime, like Rivendell does, is the right thing to do--but it's not what pays the bills best. I wonder if it wouldn't be in Riv's best interest to offer consignment used Rivendells / trade ins for new frames in order to get a portion of the proceeds from the sale of used Rivs - which basically sell themselves anyway! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ab160ec6-f5bf-4f71-8679-55ccd41a23a1%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
Thanks John and S! I certainly could have named the thread better (I know better next time!) my heart is warm for y’all. Karl Still in Nash, TN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8f15b362-0ce1-4f6a-a452-e2ab5e200833%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
Sorry for sidetracking this thread. Karl makes a good point. Although the occasional $1,500-$2,000 frame purchase seems like a lot, steady cash flow is actually what keeps businesses going. Starting now, I am going to commit to ordering at least a few things from Rivendell every month, instead of ordering from them every once in a while, as I have been doing. I almost always have a bike build on the go and need tubes, or a chain or cassette, etc. If you are on the west coast, shipping from Riv is fast and cheap, so there's no good reason to buy these kinds of things from anyplace else. On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 6:45:50 AM UTC-8, Karl wrote: > > Now that I have your attention just kidding. I have had a thought > rolling around in my head for some time now, and Grant's latest blog post > about December has pushed me to act. I love all of y'all. I gave up social > media a couple of years ago (someone else does social media for me...wow! > it's amazing) as I seek to find more authentic interactions and friends in > this life. We are an amazing community. We celebrate when others have wins. > We mourn when others go through tough patches in life. We bless others when > we have too much. We also are brave enough to be on the receiving end of > those things when life throws us curves. This is what any community in the > world longs to be. Our "sun" if you would is the beautiful company sitting > outside downtown Walnut Creek who thousands pass every day and have no clue > of the world changing little company tucked in among all of the auto repair > shops. Rivendell and it's people are why we found each other. I am forever > grateful for that, and for each and every one of you. > > I could go on, but that brings me to my proposal. I am just as guilty of > buying many things from others who have them for sale including bikes, > frames, and many other parts. What if we offered up a "thank you" every > time we made a transaction in our little community? Just on the honor > system, and just to say thank you for bringing us together. I am going to > begin buying Rivendell gift certificates in the amount of 10% of my sales > or purchases on the list that I will never use. Now, this will not be that > much on a normal basis, but as a small business owner, there are times when > an extra $100 per week helps tremendously. I believe even if we buy > something from Rivendell every time we buy and sell on our little list, we > could make a difference and also allow Grant, Vince, Corey, Will, Mark, and > all of those fine folks know how much they are appreciated, valued, and > loved. > > Thank you for reading my little thoughts. I am grateful for all of you and > the way you bless and warm my life. > > Karl > Nash, TN > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5c0c8f32-d5ef-4a06-93d5-9987a2b1816d%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
Fantastic idea, Karl! Buying second, third, or fourth hand is a great way to conserve funds, but if we always *only* do that, well, eventuallyno more Rivendell, and no more Rivendells. In an early Rivendell catalog ---No. 4, I think -- the brown one, in any case --- there was a great line, maybe a quote, that went (and I paraphrase) "Buy from the fine folks who told you about the merchandise is the first place." That's a very rough paraphrase/translation.but it still has meaning. Ponder the alternative for a guaranteed bummer. John in Portland, Ore. On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 6:45:50 AM UTC-8, Karl wrote: > > Now that I have your attention just kidding. I have had a thought > rolling around in my head for some time now, and Grant's latest blog post > about December has pushed me to act. I love all of y'all. I gave up social > media a couple of years ago (someone else does social media for me...wow! > it's amazing) as I seek to find more authentic interactions and friends in > this life. We are an amazing community. We celebrate when others have wins. > We mourn when others go through tough patches in life. We bless others when > we have too much. We also are brave enough to be on the receiving end of > those things when life throws us curves. This is what any community in the > world longs to be. Our "sun" if you would is the beautiful company sitting > outside downtown Walnut Creek who thousands pass every day and have no clue > of the world changing little company tucked in among all of the auto repair > shops. Rivendell and it's people are why we found each other. I am forever > grateful for that, and for each and every one of you. > > I could go on, but that brings me to my proposal. I am just as guilty of > buying many things from others who have them for sale including bikes, > frames, and many other parts. What if we offered up a "thank you" every > time we made a transaction in our little community? Just on the honor > system, and just to say thank you for bringing us together. I am going to > begin buying Rivendell gift certificates in the amount of 10% of my sales > or purchases on the list that I will never use. Now, this will not be that > much on a normal basis, but as a small business owner, there are times when > an extra $100 per week helps tremendously. I believe even if we buy > something from Rivendell every time we buy and sell on our little list, we > could make a difference and also allow Grant, Vince, Corey, Will, Mark, and > all of those fine folks know how much they are appreciated, valued, and > loved. > > Thank you for reading my little thoughts. I am grateful for all of you and > the way you bless and warm my life. > > Karl > Nash, TN > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/81b8c64e-1fae-4039-af4f-12ea9be7b2a7%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
Speaking for myself, I like supporting Rivendell and I have bought from them over many years. I currently have two Rivendell frames, a Toyo and an MiT. I wish I could have bought more, but I bought what I could afford at the time. Inevitably, some of the other frames I was interested in slipped by. On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 7:40:20 PM UTC-8, Justin, Oakland wrote: > > and the longer you wait the less chance there will be a company to order > from. If every person on this list who said “all I want is a X” decided to > buy a pre-designed model at the cost it takes to build them then things > might be very different. > > Want a 750-1150$ bike? Find a time machine, buy a Crust or a MIT Riv. > > > On Jan 22, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Bill Lindsay > wrote: > > > > The longer you wait the higher the price will be. > > > > BL in EC > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/o2JqLQuJW_U/unsubscribe. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com . > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/cb80e33c-00d3-448c-bd40-09351251aa4f%40googlegroups.com. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9e6fbe22-2f66-4536-af06-47a9b769704f%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
Yes but. it was the last one (of that name) or so I was told. I don't know if you can now get the same frame at the same price. Best to call Riv and order one just to make sure! On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 10:16:29 PM UTC-5, S wrote: > > Have you read the Legolas thread? Group member Brian Campbell got his > Legolas last year for $2,700: > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/HyI-BnNcP3o > > As Bill Lindsay -- who also bought a Nobilette Legolas for less than the > current Rodeo price -- explained: "The price difference is in paying Grant > to design a new bike. The Legolas design is done, so it’s much much cheaper > than a custom." > > Thus, it's not unreasonable to suppose that you might be able to buy a > Saluki, etc, for Rodeo price. Maybe not, I don't know if Riv still has all > the lugs needed for the Saluki, but it's confirmed that you can get a > Legolas for $2,800 or less. > > I am with you on the Charlie H. I am waiting to see it before deciding on > a semi-custom. > > On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 6:21:50 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote: >> >> I don’t think anyone should assume they can get a Saluki, Bombadil, or >> Legolas for $2800. That’s the price for the Nobilette Roadeo. At the very >> least, I would expect the additional canti braze-one would increase the >> cost. >> >> It will be interesting to see how Rivendell iterates the MIT frames. The >> longer chainstays and sloped top tubes seem to be somewhat divisive. Maybe >> the Gallop will be a hint of things to come. >> >> John in Hoboken, who’d love to test ride a long chain stay Riv. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c0118c14-8b2f-4fc1-b082-60045408df83%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
and the longer you wait the less chance there will be a company to order from. If every person on this list who said “all I want is a X” decided to buy a pre-designed model at the cost it takes to build them then things might be very different. Want a 750-1150$ bike? Find a time machine, buy a Crust or a MIT Riv. > On Jan 22, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > The longer you wait the higher the price will be. > > BL in EC > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/o2JqLQuJW_U/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/cb80e33c-00d3-448c-bd40-09351251aa4f%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/604F630E-E793-42D9-94B5-D9D11F66DF67%40gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
The longer you wait the higher the price will be. BL in EC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/cb80e33c-00d3-448c-bd40-09351251aa4f%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
Have you read the Legolas thread? Group member Brian Campbell got his Legolas last year for $2,700: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/HyI-BnNcP3o As Bill Lindsay -- who also bought a Nobilette Legolas for less than the current Rodeo price -- explained: "The price difference is in paying Grant to design a new bike. The Legolas design is done, so it’s much much cheaper than a custom." Thus, it's not unreasonable to suppose that you might be able to buy a Saluki, etc, for Rodeo price. Maybe not, I don't know if Riv still has all the lugs needed for the Saluki, but it's confirmed that you can get a Legolas for $2,800 or less. I am with you on the Charlie H. I am waiting to see it before deciding on a semi-custom. On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 6:21:50 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote: > > I don’t think anyone should assume they can get a Saluki, Bombadil, or > Legolas for $2800. That’s the price for the Nobilette Roadeo. At the very > least, I would expect the additional canti braze-one would increase the > cost. > > It will be interesting to see how Rivendell iterates the MIT frames. The > longer chainstays and sloped top tubes seem to be somewhat divisive. Maybe > the Gallop will be a hint of things to come. > > John in Hoboken, who’d love to test ride a long chain stay Riv. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6eb2c4eb-cb1a-4d29-88eb-7fbd160eaa05%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
I don’t think anyone should assume they can get a Saluki, Bombadil, or Legolas for $2800. That’s the price for the Nobilette Roadeo. At the very least, I would expect the additional canti braze-one would increase the cost. It will be interesting to see how Rivendell iterates the MIT frames. The longer chainstays and sloped top tubes seem to be somewhat divisive. Maybe the Gallop will be a hint of things to come. John in Hoboken, who’d love to test ride a long chain stay Riv. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/feeabbe5-5a73-4335-82ce-43eae6d3506a%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
Noted Joe! Karl Nash, TN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/adfd0614-dbe8-42bf-9964-a8d2f88bf275%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
Sorry for contributing to that, although interesting that it worked to get people's attention . . . . . On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 6:02:00 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > For future reference, kids, stunt titling a thread leads to predictable > results: People are going to revert to the title in the conversation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3a5bb43d-a70e-44d1-ace3-6eca7e0da35b%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
Yes, original Homer had different geometry. And even when the Homer first came out, it was available in size 57 and up only, with 700c wheels. I don't know if this changed later while still keeping the original geometry. I, too, would never spend $4,000 on a full custom, but I am intrig by the fact that you can get standard sizes of some previous models, eg, the Legolas, for $2,800. As I mentioned in the other thread, however, I am waiting to see this year's new models before I decide whether to get a semi-custom. On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 5:17:16 PM UTC-8, Jason Fuller wrote: > > Nah. Comparable to the previous Homer sure, but the new Homer is quite a > different bike. I am actually disappointed it got the same name with such > an overhaul. > > I'm also not going to ever be spending the custom Riv money (nor are many > people) but the MIT frames are quite competitive with brands like Crust in > price, and I think there's hugely more market share to be had by Rivendell > in that range > > On Wednesday, 22 January 2020 17:10:44 UTC-8, Justin, Oakland wrote: >> >> The Saluki (I own one) is just a Homer. >> >> Buy one. >> >> Or ask to get one with shorter chainstays made. >> >> Put money on it. >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d0eda2bc-7dd7-42d0-90a0-6a1ad7549cd7%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
For future reference, kids, stunt titling a thread leads to predictable results: People are going to revert to the title in the conversation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6f474a8b-9fee-4c54-b881-f0f3b58308cb%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
Nah. Comparable to the previous Homer sure, but the new Homer is quite a different bike. I am actually disappointed it got the same name with such an overhaul. I'm also not going to ever be spending the custom Riv money (nor are many people) but the MIT frames are quite competitive with brands like Crust in price, and I think there's hugely more market share to be had by Rivendell in that range On Wednesday, 22 January 2020 17:10:44 UTC-8, Justin, Oakland wrote: > > The Saluki (I own one) is just a Homer. > > Buy one. > > Or ask to get one with shorter chainstays made. > > Put money on it. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ef65936e-ec5c-4ac2-8fc4-7690577525fe%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
The Saluki (I own one) is just a Homer. Buy one. Or ask to get one with shorter chainstays made. Put money on it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5de42df9-885d-4d60-962c-087def3b7720%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
S, Bought one in December. Can’t remember the final price, but always wanted one! Can barely wait the 6ish months! Karl Nash, TN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9c5ec2a8-537b-44cb-947b-83e2b1ebfe77%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
Agreed. Canti Saluki might be the perfect (lightly loaded) all-around bike? I am wondering if the semi-custom deal (Rodeo price) mentioned in the Legolas thread would work with the Saluki. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/4564e5b5-a4f9-48d9-bf33-905109dd6c93%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Legolas, Bombadil, Saluki
Bringing back the Saluki would be a sure-fire way to get some money out of me. :D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/94e7a7a0-f4bd-4b23-a011-8d4cb8c3aae7%40googlegroups.com.
