Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Garth]

Hah hah ... no one has been harmed or could be harmed in the telling of 
this story/tale.  It's like opening a book and in the reading of it taking 
offense to the reading of it. Well that reminds me of a Ventriloquist who 
takes offense when the "dummie" speaks.

"How dare you, I mean me, say that !"   
Ahahahahahaahah !!!
Hilarity and laughter ensues :-))


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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Joe Bernard]

The answers to the questions in your reply are in the post you're replying 
to. 
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:08:26 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> "Shot at the Platypus ... directed at a particular person"? You live in a 
> universe different from mine.
>
> "Point of the thread"? Absolutely none on my part except to spout a 
> momentary interest. What was your purpose in chiming in so enthusiastically?
>
> Sheesh!
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 7:55 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Ok I'll cut to the chase: What is the point of the threads? They seem to 
>> be a shot at the Platypus on a Riv forum in favor of two non-Rivs, and 
>> frankly they seem directed at a particular person. I've done my best to 
>> remain unserious about the whole affair but I'm kinda stumped on what the 
>> purpose of this was.  
>>
>> On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 6:38:35 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Just for the record -- as the one who started all this nonsense -- I 
>>> don't fret about weight, well, with one exception, below; and I weighed the 
>>> Matthews only on a momentary impulse of curiosity; the Monocog followed as 
>>> a kind of academic investigation.
>>>
>>> In fact, I fret mildly about weight only for one bike, and that is the 
>>> 1999 Joe Starck Gofast Fixie Custom Road; and even on that one I chose most 
>>> parts for performance or looks instead of weight -- Dura Ace SPDs instead 
>>> of Look KEOS or Speedplay X-1s, Phil hubs, DA GA 200 crank with 52 ring, 
>>> Surly Dingle. The only chi chi light part is (I blush to admit) a titanium 
>>> stem bolt. 18 lb even. The SA TF hubs adds 11 oz and the TC much more 
>>> again, an amount I've not bothered to register.
>>>
>>> All my other bikes were built without regard for weight and range from 
>>> the 28 lb Matthews #2, clone of 2003 Curt Riv Road custom with SA AM hub, 
>>> to the 32 lb Matthews #1 and the Monocog at 32.25 -- all of these weighed 
>>> with full kit bags of 2 or 3 lb each.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 6:54 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
 Leah: I laughed my head off. For an increasingly silly thread, you 
 certainly capped it all. 

 OTOH, I could see you struggling to lift those behemoths.

 Long ago, when my daughter was 5 or 6 (she will, God willing, turn 22 
 in early June), I would be horsing around and playing the fool, and she 
 would say, very earnestly and emphatically: "Daddy! Be *sewious!*" I 
 begin to understand her sentiment.



 On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 2:38 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
 jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I had to respond to you in my favorite medium, Patrick. Video. I’ll 
> include the link below, since the file is too big. It’s on my Instagram, 
> which I’ve set to public for now, but hurry and watch before I switch it 
> back to private.
>
> I am making it my new favorite thing to take these classy Rivendells 
> and set them to edgy, tacky hit music in Reels. The purists will ask for 
> the ban hammer. The rest of you will hopefully laugh. This video is 
> entirely in response to these silly threads.
> Leah
> https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrohxSlgzAY/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
>
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:05:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> 2016 Matthews "road bike for dirt" at 31.99 lb with full generous kit 
>> in frame bag, which also contains the capacitor and switching box for 
>> the 
>> K-Lite. 
>>
>> Dynamo lighting f and r, fenders of 2X thicker than your Honjos, with 
>> 2X thicker struts, rear rack, cages, and pedals. Not bad at all 
>> considering 
>> that the bag with its contents probably weighs close to 4 lb. 
>> -- 
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>>
>> ---
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Jeffrey Arita]

This entire thread fondly reminds me of "It's A Walk Off" contest from 
*Zoolander*:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbnCoQ75RuM=95s

One of the first *true (yes, **non-fictional*) accounts of male modeling.  
Gotta love all the models, along with Billy Zane and David Bowie.  

Enjoy,

Jeff
Claremont, CA

On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 6:55:25 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Ok I'll cut to the chase: What is the point of the threads? They seem to 
> be a shot at the Platypus on a Riv forum in favor of two non-Rivs, and 
> frankly they seem directed at a particular person. I've done my best to 
> remain unserious about the whole affair but I'm kinda stumped on what the 
> purpose of this was.  
>
> On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 6:38:35 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Just for the record -- as the one who started all this nonsense -- I 
>> don't fret about weight, well, with one exception, below; and I weighed the 
>> Matthews only on a momentary impulse of curiosity; the Monocog followed as 
>> a kind of academic investigation.
>>
>> In fact, I fret mildly about weight only for one bike, and that is the 
>> 1999 Joe Starck Gofast Fixie Custom Road; and even on that one I chose most 
>> parts for performance or looks instead of weight -- Dura Ace SPDs instead 
>> of Look KEOS or Speedplay X-1s, Phil hubs, DA GA 200 crank with 52 ring, 
>> Surly Dingle. The only chi chi light part is (I blush to admit) a titanium 
>> stem bolt. 18 lb even. The SA TF hubs adds 11 oz and the TC much more 
>> again, an amount I've not bothered to register.
>>
>> All my other bikes were built without regard for weight and range from 
>> the 28 lb Matthews #2, clone of 2003 Curt Riv Road custom with SA AM hub, 
>> to the 32 lb Matthews #1 and the Monocog at 32.25 -- all of these weighed 
>> with full kit bags of 2 or 3 lb each.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 6:54 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Leah: I laughed my head off. For an increasingly silly thread, you 
>>> certainly capped it all. 
>>>
>>> OTOH, I could see you struggling to lift those behemoths.
>>>
>>> Long ago, when my daughter was 5 or 6 (she will, God willing, turn 22 in 
>>> early June), I would be horsing around and playing the fool, and she would 
>>> say, very earnestly and emphatically: "Daddy! Be *sewious!*" I begin to 
>>> understand her sentiment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 2:38 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I had to respond to you in my favorite medium, Patrick. Video. I’ll 
 include the link below, since the file is too big. It’s on my Instagram, 
 which I’ve set to public for now, but hurry and watch before I switch it 
 back to private.

 I am making it my new favorite thing to take these classy Rivendells 
 and set them to edgy, tacky hit music in Reels. The purists will ask for 
 the ban hammer. The rest of you will hopefully laugh. This video is 
 entirely in response to these silly threads.
 Leah
 https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrohxSlgzAY/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

 On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:05:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> 2016 Matthews "road bike for dirt" at 31.99 lb with full generous kit 
> in frame bag, which also contains the capacitor and switching box for the 
> K-Lite. 
>
> Dynamo lighting f and r, fenders of 2X thicker than your Honjos, with 
> 2X thicker struts, rear rack, cages, and pedals. Not bad at all 
> considering 
> that the bag with its contents probably weighs close to 4 lb. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Patrick Moore]

"Shot at the Platypus ... directed at a particular person"? You live in a
universe different from mine.

"Point of the thread"? Absolutely none on my part except to spout a
momentary interest. What was your purpose in chiming in so enthusiastically?

Sheesh!


On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 7:55 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Ok I'll cut to the chase: What is the point of the threads? They seem to
> be a shot at the Platypus on a Riv forum in favor of two non-Rivs, and
> frankly they seem directed at a particular person. I've done my best to
> remain unserious about the whole affair but I'm kinda stumped on what the
> purpose of this was.
>
> On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 6:38:35 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Just for the record -- as the one who started all this nonsense -- I
>> don't fret about weight, well, with one exception, below; and I weighed the
>> Matthews only on a momentary impulse of curiosity; the Monocog followed as
>> a kind of academic investigation.
>>
>> In fact, I fret mildly about weight only for one bike, and that is the
>> 1999 Joe Starck Gofast Fixie Custom Road; and even on that one I chose most
>> parts for performance or looks instead of weight -- Dura Ace SPDs instead
>> of Look KEOS or Speedplay X-1s, Phil hubs, DA GA 200 crank with 52 ring,
>> Surly Dingle. The only chi chi light part is (I blush to admit) a titanium
>> stem bolt. 18 lb even. The SA TF hubs adds 11 oz and the TC much more
>> again, an amount I've not bothered to register.
>>
>> All my other bikes were built without regard for weight and range from
>> the 28 lb Matthews #2, clone of 2003 Curt Riv Road custom with SA AM hub,
>> to the 32 lb Matthews #1 and the Monocog at 32.25 -- all of these weighed
>> with full kit bags of 2 or 3 lb each.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 6:54 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Leah: I laughed my head off. For an increasingly silly thread, you
>>> certainly capped it all.
>>>
>>> OTOH, I could see you struggling to lift those behemoths.
>>>
>>> Long ago, when my daughter was 5 or 6 (she will, God willing, turn 22 in
>>> early June), I would be horsing around and playing the fool, and she would
>>> say, very earnestly and emphatically: "Daddy! Be *sewious!*" I begin to
>>> understand her sentiment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 2:38 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I had to respond to you in my favorite medium, Patrick. Video. I’ll
 include the link below, since the file is too big. It’s on my Instagram,
 which I’ve set to public for now, but hurry and watch before I switch it
 back to private.

 I am making it my new favorite thing to take these classy Rivendells
 and set them to edgy, tacky hit music in Reels. The purists will ask for
 the ban hammer. The rest of you will hopefully laugh. This video is
 entirely in response to these silly threads.
 Leah
 https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrohxSlgzAY/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

 On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:05:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> 2016 Matthews "road bike for dirt" at 31.99 lb with full generous kit
> in frame bag, which also contains the capacitor and switching box for the
> K-Lite.
>
> Dynamo lighting f and r, fenders of 2X thicker than your Honjos, with
> 2X thicker struts, rear rack, cages, and pedals. Not bad at all 
> considering
> that the bag with its contents probably weighs close to 4 lb.
> --
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Joe Bernard]

Ok I'll cut to the chase: What is the point of the threads? They seem to be 
a shot at the Platypus on a Riv forum in favor of two non-Rivs, and frankly 
they seem directed at a particular person. I've done my best to remain 
unserious about the whole affair but I'm kinda stumped on what the purpose 
of this was.  

On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 6:38:35 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Just for the record -- as the one who started all this nonsense -- I don't 
> fret about weight, well, with one exception, below; and I weighed the 
> Matthews only on a momentary impulse of curiosity; the Monocog followed as 
> a kind of academic investigation.
>
> In fact, I fret mildly about weight only for one bike, and that is the 
> 1999 Joe Starck Gofast Fixie Custom Road; and even on that one I chose most 
> parts for performance or looks instead of weight -- Dura Ace SPDs instead 
> of Look KEOS or Speedplay X-1s, Phil hubs, DA GA 200 crank with 52 ring, 
> Surly Dingle. The only chi chi light part is (I blush to admit) a titanium 
> stem bolt. 18 lb even. The SA TF hubs adds 11 oz and the TC much more 
> again, an amount I've not bothered to register.
>
> All my other bikes were built without regard for weight and range from the 
> 28 lb Matthews #2, clone of 2003 Curt Riv Road custom with SA AM hub, to 
> the 32 lb Matthews #1 and the Monocog at 32.25 -- all of these weighed with 
> full kit bags of 2 or 3 lb each.
>
> On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 6:54 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Leah: I laughed my head off. For an increasingly silly thread, you 
>> certainly capped it all. 
>>
>> OTOH, I could see you struggling to lift those behemoths.
>>
>> Long ago, when my daughter was 5 or 6 (she will, God willing, turn 22 in 
>> early June), I would be horsing around and playing the fool, and she would 
>> say, very earnestly and emphatically: "Daddy! Be *sewious!*" I begin to 
>> understand her sentiment.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 2:38 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I had to respond to you in my favorite medium, Patrick. Video. I’ll 
>>> include the link below, since the file is too big. It’s on my Instagram, 
>>> which I’ve set to public for now, but hurry and watch before I switch it 
>>> back to private.
>>>
>>> I am making it my new favorite thing to take these classy Rivendells and 
>>> set them to edgy, tacky hit music in Reels. The purists will ask for the 
>>> ban hammer. The rest of you will hopefully laugh. This video is entirely in 
>>> response to these silly threads.
>>> Leah
>>> https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrohxSlgzAY/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:05:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 2016 Matthews "road bike for dirt" at 31.99 lb with full generous kit 
 in frame bag, which also contains the capacitor and switching box for the 
 K-Lite. 

 Dynamo lighting f and r, fenders of 2X thicker than your Honjos, with 
 2X thicker struts, rear rack, cages, and pedals. Not bad at all 
 considering 
 that the bag with its contents probably weighs close to 4 lb. 
 -- 

 ---
 Patrick Moore
 Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Patrick Moore]

Just for the record -- as the one who started all this nonsense -- I don't
fret about weight, well, with one exception, below; and I weighed the
Matthews only on a momentary impulse of curiosity; the Monocog followed as
a kind of academic investigation.

In fact, I fret mildly about weight only for one bike, and that is the 1999
Joe Starck Gofast Fixie Custom Road; and even on that one I chose most
parts for performance or looks instead of weight -- Dura Ace SPDs instead
of Look KEOS or Speedplay X-1s, Phil hubs, DA GA 200 crank with 52 ring,
Surly Dingle. The only chi chi light part is (I blush to admit) a titanium
stem bolt. 18 lb even. The SA TF hubs adds 11 oz and the TC much more
again, an amount I've not bothered to register.

All my other bikes were built without regard for weight and range from the
28 lb Matthews #2, clone of 2003 Curt Riv Road custom with SA AM hub, to
the 32 lb Matthews #1 and the Monocog at 32.25 -- all of these weighed with
full kit bags of 2 or 3 lb each.

On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 6:54 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Leah: I laughed my head off. For an increasingly silly thread, you
> certainly capped it all.
>
> OTOH, I could see you struggling to lift those behemoths.
>
> Long ago, when my daughter was 5 or 6 (she will, God willing, turn 22 in
> early June), I would be horsing around and playing the fool, and she would
> say, very earnestly and emphatically: "Daddy! Be *sewious!*" I begin to
> understand her sentiment.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 2:38 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I had to respond to you in my favorite medium, Patrick. Video. I’ll
>> include the link below, since the file is too big. It’s on my Instagram,
>> which I’ve set to public for now, but hurry and watch before I switch it
>> back to private.
>>
>> I am making it my new favorite thing to take these classy Rivendells and
>> set them to edgy, tacky hit music in Reels. The purists will ask for the
>> ban hammer. The rest of you will hopefully laugh. This video is entirely in
>> response to these silly threads.
>> Leah
>> https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrohxSlgzAY/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:05:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> 2016 Matthews "road bike for dirt" at 31.99 lb with full generous kit in
>>> frame bag, which also contains the capacitor and switching box for the
>>> K-Lite.
>>>
>>> Dynamo lighting f and r, fenders of 2X thicker than your Honjos, with 2X
>>> thicker struts, rear rack, cages, and pedals. Not bad at all considering
>>> that the bag with its contents probably weighs close to 4 lb.
>>> --
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Patrick Moore]

Leah: I laughed my head off. For an increasingly silly thread, you
certainly capped it all.

OTOH, I could see you struggling to lift those behemoths.

Long ago, when my daughter was 5 or 6 (she will, God willing, turn 22 in
early June), I would be horsing around and playing the fool, and she would
say, very earnestly and emphatically: "Daddy! Be *sewious!*" I begin to
understand her sentiment.



On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 2:38 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I had to respond to you in my favorite medium, Patrick. Video. I’ll
> include the link below, since the file is too big. It’s on my Instagram,
> which I’ve set to public for now, but hurry and watch before I switch it
> back to private.
>
> I am making it my new favorite thing to take these classy Rivendells and
> set them to edgy, tacky hit music in Reels. The purists will ask for the
> ban hammer. The rest of you will hopefully laugh. This video is entirely in
> response to these silly threads.
> Leah
> https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrohxSlgzAY/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
>
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:05:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> 2016 Matthews "road bike for dirt" at 31.99 lb with full generous kit in
>> frame bag, which also contains the capacitor and switching box for the
>> K-Lite.
>>
>> Dynamo lighting f and r, fenders of 2X thicker than your Honjos, with 2X
>> thicker struts, rear rack, cages, and pedals. Not bad at all considering
>> that the bag with its contents probably weighs close to 4 lb.
>> --
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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[RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Julian Westerhout]

Leah, 

That video was great!   I laughed, and cheered!:) 

I'm 6'7" tall and weigh between 230 and 260 pounds (depending upon the 
season) and am both amused and annoyed at the "how much does that bike 
weigh?" and "How can you ride such a heavy bike?" comments I get when I 
show up for a club ride on one of my Rivs or other steel bikes (I own no 
carbon). My response is "Who cares? With me on it your carbon bike might 
weigh 1 to 2% less than me on my bike -- and since this is a B-C club 
(14-16 mph) ride and not the Tour de France  it makes no appreciable 
difference to my riding results, but to me the comfort of my bike is well 
worth a possible few seconds over 50 miles."   If it is someone I don't 
know I then make an effort to cruise by on an uphill while trying to look 
like I'm extending little effort. 

I also get all the style points. Rode Ragbrai last year with a good friend 
-- he rides carbon -- and every day lots of folks complimented my Atlantis, 
many wanting photos. On the last day he remarked that no one ever said 
anything about his bike, unlike me and the others on nice steel bikes 
scattered among the thousands of lookalike carbon bikes. 

I say, "Just Ride!" 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington IL 





On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 3:38:57 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I had to respond to you in my favorite medium, Patrick. Video. I’ll 
> include the link below, since the file is too big. It’s on my Instagram, 
> which I’ve set to public for now, but hurry and watch before I switch it 
> back to private.
>
> I am making it my new favorite thing to take these classy Rivendells and 
> set them to edgy, tacky hit music in Reels. The purists will ask for the 
> ban hammer. The rest of you will hopefully laugh. This video is entirely in 
> response to these silly threads.
> Leah
> https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrohxSlgzAY/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
>
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:05:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> 2016 Matthews "road bike for dirt" at 31.99 lb with full generous kit in 
>> frame bag, which also contains the capacitor and switching box for the 
>> K-Lite. 
>>
>> Dynamo lighting f and r, fenders of 2X thicker than your Honjos, with 2X 
>> thicker struts, rear rack, cages, and pedals. Not bad at all considering 
>> that the bag with its contents probably weighs close to 4 lb. 
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[RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I had to respond to you in my favorite medium, Patrick. Video. I’ll include 
the link below, since the file is too big. It’s on my Instagram, which I’ve 
set to public for now, but hurry and watch before I switch it back to 
private.

I am making it my new favorite thing to take these classy Rivendells and 
set them to edgy, tacky hit music in Reels. The purists will ask for the 
ban hammer. The rest of you will hopefully laugh. This video is entirely in 
response to these silly threads.
Leah
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrohxSlgzAY/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:05:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> 2016 Matthews "road bike for dirt" at 31.99 lb with full generous kit in 
> frame bag, which also contains the capacitor and switching box for the 
> K-Lite. 
>
> Dynamo lighting f and r, fenders of 2X thicker than your Honjos, with 2X 
> thicker struts, rear rack, cages, and pedals. Not bad at all considering 
> that the bag with its contents probably weighs close to 4 lb. 
> -- 
>
> ---
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Joe Bernard]

Weight weenie you say? I'm a weight MEANIE*

*I have no idea what that means, just play along 

On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 10:19:15 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Yes, there are times when I feel (seriously) like converting it to a 
> single speed. But it's my one derailleur bike and I figure I need at least 
> one of those.
>
> If I stripped it of fenders, rack, lighting system, and bag I guesstimate 
> the weight would drop to about 25 lb, not bad for steel and aluminum, and 
> lighter than the typical 26-28 lb for a highish end (non-tricked) XT 26er 
> circa 1991, despite the huge wheels.
>
> Patrick "not entirely serious weight weenie" Moore
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 8:55 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:
>
>> Patrick
>> I did not realize the Matthews had so many gears and cables and things 
>> hanging from its industrial frame. There's your problem. 
>>
>> Mike "green Bob Jackson World Tour likely >31.99 lbs"  SLO CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Patrick Moore]

Yes, there are times when I feel (seriously) like converting it to a single
speed. But it's my one derailleur bike and I figure I need at least one of
those.

If I stripped it of fenders, rack, lighting system, and bag I guesstimate
the weight would drop to about 25 lb, not bad for steel and aluminum, and
lighter than the typical 26-28 lb for a highish end (non-tricked) XT 26er
circa 1991, despite the huge wheels.

Patrick "not entirely serious weight weenie" Moore

On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 8:55 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> Patrick
> I did not realize the Matthews had so many gears and cables and things
> hanging from its industrial frame. There's your problem.
>
> Mike "green Bob Jackson World Tour likely >31.99 lbs"  SLO CA
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[RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Mike Godwin]

Patrick
I did not realize the Matthews had so many gears and cables and things 
hanging from its industrial frame. There's your problem. 

Mike "green Bob Jackson World Tour likely >31.99 lbs"  SLO CA

On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 6:58:49 AM UTC-7 Marc Irwin wrote:

> [image: Heavier Hunq.JPG]
> Misguided weight weenies, all of you.  You want a better workout?  Get a 
> heavier bike.
>
> Marc
>
> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 6:58:18 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Mine feels light when riding it. 
>>
>> Roberta
>> Philadelphia 
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:05:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> 2016 Matthews "road bike for dirt" at 31.99 lb with full generous kit in 
>>> frame bag, which also contains the capacitor and switching box for the 
>>> K-Lite. 
>>>
>>> Dynamo lighting f and r, fenders of 2X thicker than your Honjos, with 2X 
>>> thicker struts, rear rack, cages, and pedals. Not bad at all considering 
>>> that the bag with its contents probably weighs close to 4 lb. 
>>> -- 
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>>> ---
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>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Marc Irwin]

[image: Heavier Hunq.JPG]
Misguided weight weenies, all of you.  You want a better workout?  Get a 
heavier bike.

Marc

On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 6:58:18 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Mine feels light when riding it. 
>
> Roberta
> Philadelphia 
>
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:05:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> 2016 Matthews "road bike for dirt" at 31.99 lb with full generous kit in 
>> frame bag, which also contains the capacitor and switching box for the 
>> K-Lite. 
>>
>> Dynamo lighting f and r, fenders of 2X thicker than your Honjos, with 2X 
>> thicker struts, rear rack, cages, and pedals. Not bad at all considering 
>> that the bag with its contents probably weighs close to 4 lb. 
>> -- 
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>> ---
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Patrick Moore]

Actually, this is very true, all else equal. I recall riding a long time
ago up and back our 7-mile Tramway hill with a much lighter rider. I'm
slender at 170, but he was small and slender and probably 30 lb lighter;
our bikes -- me on my 1995 26" wheel Riv Road custom -- were much the same.
I did pretty well uphill -- I recall using my 60" gear -- but downhill I
had to keep braking (air brake) to keep from running away from him.

Of course he had to sit up and twiddle to stay with me on the climb, as
this was a man who once said, "I only did 9,000 miles last year -- it was a
bad year."

Leah, your Platypus is really one of the list's prettiest bikes while my
Matthews can best be described as industrial. But mine is still lighter.


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> My Clem is heavier than all of those lightweight bikes. And, I roll so
> fast down hills!!
> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Doug H.]

My Clem is heavier than all of those lightweight bikes. And, I roll so fast 
down hills!!
Doug

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 7:34:29 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> Who weighs a Platypus?
>
> -Dave (whose 60cm frame/fork/headset weigh 10lbs)
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 6:23:39 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Well, I don’t see how this is possible since your Matthews isn’t even 
>> raspberry.
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 4:51 AM, Garth  wrote:
>>
>> As if any comparison is ever fair  . heeheehee .  The title of 
>> your post is hilarious Patrick ;-)  
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Doug H.]

My Clem is heavier than all of those lightweight bikes. Weenies.
Doug

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 7:34:29 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> Who weighs a Platypus?
>
> -Dave (whose 60cm frame/fork/headset weigh 10lbs)
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 6:23:39 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Well, I don’t see how this is possible since your Matthews isn’t even 
>> raspberry.
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 4:51 AM, Garth  wrote:
>>
>> As if any comparison is ever fair  . heeheehee .  The title of 
>> your post is hilarious Patrick ;-)  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[DavidP]

Who weighs a Platypus?

-Dave (whose 60cm frame/fork/headset weigh 10lbs)

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 6:23:39 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
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> Well, I don’t see how this is possible since your Matthews isn’t even 
> raspberry.
>
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 26, 2023, at 4:51 AM, Garth  wrote:
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> As if any comparison is ever fair  . heeheehee .  The title of 
> your post is hilarious Patrick ;-)  
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As if any comparison is ever fair  . heeheehee .  The title of your 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Joe Bernard]

I don't know how to weigh a bike, I just take pictures of it. 

On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:48:58 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Nice bike and nice background. How much does your custom weigh, and is it 
> lighter than similar Platypuses?
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 7:01 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh yeah? Let’s see you do this with your Lighter-Than-A-Platypus:
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:05:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> 2016 Matthews "road bike for dirt" at 31.99 lb with full generous kit in 
>>> frame bag, which also contains the capacitor and switching box for the 
>>> K-Lite. 
>>>
>>> Dynamo lighting f and r, fenders of 2X thicker than your Honjos, with 2X 
>>> thicker struts, rear rack, cages, and pedals. Not bad at all considering 
>>> that the bag with its contents probably weighs close to 4 lb. 
>>> -- 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Patrick Moore]

Nice bike and nice background. How much does your custom weigh, and is it
lighter than similar Platypuses?

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 7:01 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
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> Oh yeah? Let’s see you do this with your Lighter-Than-A-Platypus:
>
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:05:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> 2016 Matthews "road bike for dirt" at 31.99 lb with full generous kit in
>> frame bag, which also contains the capacitor and switching box for the
>> K-Lite.
>>
>> Dynamo lighting f and r, fenders of 2X thicker than your Honjos, with 2X
>> thicker struts, rear rack, cages, and pedals. Not bad at all considering
>> that the bag with its contents probably weighs close to 4 lb.
>> --
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Patrick Moore]

My Matthews is also much prettier than your Platypus.

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 7:01 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
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> Oh yeah? Let’s see you do this with your Lighter-Than-A-Platypus:
>
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:05:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> 2016 Matthews "road bike for dirt" at 31.99 lb with full generous kit in
>> frame bag, which also contains the capacitor and switching box for the
>> K-Lite.
>>
>> Dynamo lighting f and r, fenders of 2X thicker than your Honjos, with 2X
>> thicker struts, rear rack, cages, and pedals. Not bad at all considering
>> that the bag with its contents probably weighs close to 4 lb.
>> --
>>
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