Re: [RBW] Re: Lower Handlebars for Loaded Baskets & Porteur Racks?

2016-02-26 Thread Justin August 
I find that, with quill stems, the higher then stem the more flex I feel with a 
front load. Does anyone else feel this on mid-to-high trail bikes?

-Justin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lower Handlebars for Loaded Baskets & Porteur Racks?

2016-02-26 Thread Hunter Harr 
Over six feet tall, and proportioned tall in the body, so very tall 
sitting. I had no problem with that load, which was an outlier. Main use of 
that bike was grocery shopping. The rack would fit two standard reusable 
shopping bags perfectly. Now sitting, flop was a problem, see strap. But 
riding was easy, and the grips are a fair distance from rack and load.

Never even considered trying to stand a pedal on this thing. But must point 
out, FLORIDA, not much in the way of hills.


On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 6:57:37 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> But could you see forward?
>
> My daughter had a 24" wheel Townie 3i or somesuch, and it was a 
> surprisingly comfortable ride -- hard to stand and pedal, though.
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Hunter Harr  > wrote:
>
>> Bike handled fine, but was not fast, but very relaxed.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 12:19:47 PM UTC-5, John Phillips wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,  I was looking at Google photos of bikes with porteur racks, and I 
>>> noticed that most bikes had un-Riv-like lower handlebars, placing the 
>>> handle bars closer to the rack and the load.
>>>
>>> On the Riv staff bike webpage, Sean & Jenny have their handle bars set 
>>> closer to their porteur racks as well.
>>>
>>> Does anyone on the list use a large basket and/or porteur rack, and how 
>>> do you like to set up your handlebars in relation to your front load?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lower Handlebars for Loaded Baskets & Porteur Racks?

2016-02-25 Thread Patrick Moore 
But could you see forward?

My daughter had a 24" wheel Townie 3i or somesuch, and it was a
surprisingly comfortable ride -- hard to stand and pedal, though.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Hunter Harr 
wrote:

> Bike handled fine, but was not fast, but very relaxed.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 12:19:47 PM UTC-5, John Phillips wrote:
>>
>> Hi,  I was looking at Google photos of bikes with porteur racks, and I
>> noticed that most bikes had un-Riv-like lower handlebars, placing the
>> handle bars closer to the rack and the load.
>>
>> On the Riv staff bike webpage, Sean & Jenny have their handle bars set
>> closer to their porteur racks as well.
>>
>> Does anyone on the list use a large basket and/or porteur rack, and how
>> do you like to set up your handlebars in relation to your front load?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Lower Handlebars for Loaded Baskets & Porteur Racks?

2016-02-25 Thread Lungimsam 
Maybe if they are lowering their bars to the optimal height if they are 
using a stem decaleur, which is not adjustable.
So, if you want your bag to sit squarely on the rack, you need to get the 
bars at a close enough height.
Just a thought, but I really don't know from porteur stuff.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lower Handlebars for Loaded Baskets & Porteur Racks?

2016-02-25 Thread Patrick Moore 
Low bars and low trail do not, to my knowlege, have any connection. I think
that the reason why porteur bikes have lower bars is that that many
Rivendell riders like bars a lot higher than other riders like them.

The bar on this Rebour-esque (so, I assume, typical) porteur seems pretty
typical; it's certainly not low.

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On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:00 AM, EGNolan  wrote:

> A lot has to do with geometry; i.e. most actual porteur bicycles have low
> trail geometries which usually coincide with a fairly low handlebar by Riv
> standards. I've found that the higher & further back my h'bars are (I now
> use Boscos on a Handsome XOXO), the more of my weight is on the rear wheel
> & thus the more weight the front seems to handle. A li'l weight up front is
> now key for this bike to handle well IMHO, so I always at least keep my
> U-lock in my basket.
>
> Best,
> Eric
>
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[RBW] Re: Lower Handlebars for Loaded Baskets & Porteur Racks?

2016-02-25 Thread Frank Brose 
I have a Rawland rSogn with a Haulin Colin rack and large Swift bag on the 
front and it has Albatross bars with an uprising stem. Handles just fine 
loaded otherwise.

On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 11:19:47 AM UTC-6, John Phillips wrote:
>
> Hi,  I was looking at Google photos of bikes with porteur racks, and I 
> noticed that most bikes had un-Riv-like lower handlebars, placing the 
> handle bars closer to the rack and the load.
>
> On the Riv staff bike webpage, Sean & Jenny have their handle bars set 
> closer to their porteur racks as well.
>
> Does anyone on the list use a large basket and/or porteur rack, and how do 
> you like to set up your handlebars in relation to your front load?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Lower Handlebars for Loaded Baskets & Porteur Racks?

2016-02-25 Thread EGNolan 
A lot has to do with geometry; i.e. most actual porteur bicycles have low 
trail geometries which usually coincide with a fairly low handlebar by Riv 
standards. I've found that the higher & further back my h'bars are (I now 
use Boscos on a Handsome XOXO), the more of my weight is on the rear wheel 
& thus the more weight the front seems to handle. A li'l weight up front is 
now key for this bike to handle well IMHO, so I always at least keep my 
U-lock in my basket.

Best,
Eric

>
>

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