Re: [RBW] Re: MTBubbe Update

[Patrick Moore]

I hear that there are other colors of Loctite that work better in shear,
but blue worked for me.

I'd like to see a photo of the Gilbert house. I haven't seen it since about
1966, age 11 or so, when the ancient Gilbert siblings still lived there in
all their Faulknerian eccentricity (Aunt Gus proclaimed with pride that she
hadn't been out of doors for 13 years; she was immensely fat, as you would
be if you ate 3 full ones a day, and snacked on hot buttered biscuits with
honey between courses), complete with cook and kitchen separated from the
house by a covered walkway.

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Paul Clifton  wrote:

> Thanks for the tip Patrick. I'll give the loctite a try, since I have
> some, and it's way cheaper than a new seatpost.
>
> I found that historic house you were talking about back in the summer:
> https://goo.gl/maps/NfmsToEgUfL2
> It's less than a mile from where I used to live, but I didn't get a chance
> to ride down there. It's still close by. I'll snap a photo when I do make
> it.
>
> I'm looking forward to getting this bubbe set up more appropriately for
> the trail and giving a good report on how it does.
>
> Paul
>
> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 10:28:18 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> FWIW, I've found in the past that blue Loctite on the cradle stops the
>> slipping; I used it successfully twice, once on the cradle of a Ritchey
>> seatpost with considerable setback, and once on the slightly undersized
>> shaft of a Syncros titanium post that slipped down the seat tube at the
>> rate of about 1/2" per mile on one of my Rivs.
>>
>> I'll be interested to hear from other owners of Rivendell "cruisers" how
>> they do on more technical trails, appropriately built. I don't mean the
>> really steep, rocky/rooty stuff for which a real mountain bike is needed,
>> but nice winding and hilly paths like those in Paul's photos. It seems that
>> some of these bikes would be ideal for such riding, minus the very wide,
>> sweepback bars.
>>
>> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the tip. Torque-ing didn't work. I have a couple 2 bolt
>>> posts, but they aren't the right diameter. I'll see what I can come up
>>> with. I kinda like the look of the Thomson angled posts. I might even try
>>> one in black if I can find it for the right price. The S65 doesn't even
>>> have any knurling to keep it from tipping back. Seems like it should.
>>>
>>> It's fun rediscovering mountain biking around here. Finally having a
>>> bike that can handle it with just a tire swap will make that easier to do.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:53:00 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:

 Congrats on the bike!  Glad you're giving it a chance to show its
 "burly" side.

 You can try torque-ing down the saddle clamp bolt to prevent it from
 shifting.

 But, any two-bolt seatpost will clamp more securely than the Nitto S65
 Crystal Fellow (or clone) you're using.
 The Nitto S83 or lugged S84 are the Riv-supplied solutions.  I also see
 two-bolt posts in silver from Ritchey, Deda, and others.
 I like the clamp head on Thomson posts, but they only come in straight
 (not enough setback with a Brooks) or angled (proper setback, weird
 looks).  Soma's Zero post has the same problem (lack of setback).



 On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Paul Clifton 
 wrote:
>
>
>> Any suggestions for a seat post that will keep my saddle from tilting
>> back when I bounce around on it?
>>
>> Paul in ATL
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: MTBubbe Update

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

Good stuff -- I'm looking forward to seeing more reports and photos as 
your build evolves.

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Re: [RBW] Re: MTBubbe Update

[Paul Clifton]

Thanks for the tip Patrick. I'll give the loctite a try, since I have some, 
and it's way cheaper than a new seatpost.

I found that historic house you were talking about back in the summer: 
https://goo.gl/maps/NfmsToEgUfL2
It's less than a mile from where I used to live, but I didn't get a chance 
to ride down there. It's still close by. I'll snap a photo when I do make 
it.

I'm looking forward to getting this bubbe set up more appropriately for the 
trail and giving a good report on how it does.

Paul

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 10:28:18 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> FWIW, I've found in the past that blue Loctite on the cradle stops the 
> slipping; I used it successfully twice, once on the cradle of a Ritchey 
> seatpost with considerable setback, and once on the slightly undersized 
> shaft of a Syncros titanium post that slipped down the seat tube at the 
> rate of about 1/2" per mile on one of my Rivs.
>
> I'll be interested to hear from other owners of Rivendell "cruisers" how 
> they do on more technical trails, appropriately built. I don't mean the 
> really steep, rocky/rooty stuff for which a real mountain bike is needed, 
> but nice winding and hilly paths like those in Paul's photos. It seems that 
> some of these bikes would be ideal for such riding, minus the very wide, 
> sweepback bars.
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Paul Clifton  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the tip. Torque-ing didn't work. I have a couple 2 bolt posts, 
>> but they aren't the right diameter. I'll see what I can come up with. I 
>> kinda like the look of the Thomson angled posts. I might even try one in 
>> black if I can find it for the right price. The S65 doesn't even have any 
>> knurling to keep it from tipping back. Seems like it should.
>>
>> It's fun rediscovering mountain biking around here. Finally having a bike 
>> that can handle it with just a tire swap will make that easier to do.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:53:00 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>>
>>> Congrats on the bike!  Glad you're giving it a chance to show its 
>>> "burly" side.
>>>
>>> You can try torque-ing down the saddle clamp bolt to prevent it from 
>>> shifting.
>>>
>>> But, any two-bolt seatpost will clamp more securely than the Nitto S65 
>>> Crystal Fellow (or clone) you're using.  
>>> The Nitto S83 or lugged S84 are the Riv-supplied solutions.  I also see 
>>> two-bolt posts in silver from Ritchey, Deda, and others.  
>>> I like the clamp head on Thomson posts, but they only come in straight 
>>> (not enough setback with a Brooks) or angled (proper setback, weird 
>>> looks).  Soma's Zero post has the same problem (lack of setback).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Paul Clifton  
>>> wrote:


> Any suggestions for a seat post that will keep my saddle from tilting 
> back when I bounce around on it?
>
> Paul in ATL
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: MTBubbe Update

[Patrick Moore]

FWIW, I've found in the past that blue Loctite on the cradle stops the
slipping; I used it successfully twice, once on the cradle of a Ritchey
seatpost with considerable setback, and once on the slightly undersized
shaft of a Syncros titanium post that slipped down the seat tube at the
rate of about 1/2" per mile on one of my Rivs.

I'll be interested to hear from other owners of Rivendell "cruisers" how
they do on more technical trails, appropriately built. I don't mean the
really steep, rocky/rooty stuff for which a real mountain bike is needed,
but nice winding and hilly paths like those in Paul's photos. It seems that
some of these bikes would be ideal for such riding, minus the very wide,
sweepback bars.

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:

> Thanks for the tip. Torque-ing didn't work. I have a couple 2 bolt posts,
> but they aren't the right diameter. I'll see what I can come up with. I
> kinda like the look of the Thomson angled posts. I might even try one in
> black if I can find it for the right price. The S65 doesn't even have any
> knurling to keep it from tipping back. Seems like it should.
>
> It's fun rediscovering mountain biking around here. Finally having a bike
> that can handle it with just a tire swap will make that easier to do.
>
> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:53:00 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> Congrats on the bike!  Glad you're giving it a chance to show its "burly"
>> side.
>>
>> You can try torque-ing down the saddle clamp bolt to prevent it from
>> shifting.
>>
>> But, any two-bolt seatpost will clamp more securely than the Nitto S65
>> Crystal Fellow (or clone) you're using.
>> The Nitto S83 or lugged S84 are the Riv-supplied solutions.  I also see
>> two-bolt posts in silver from Ritchey, Deda, and others.
>> I like the clamp head on Thomson posts, but they only come in straight
>> (not enough setback with a Brooks) or angled (proper setback, weird
>> looks).  Soma's Zero post has the same problem (lack of setback).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Any suggestions for a seat post that will keep my saddle from tilting
 back when I bounce around on it?

 Paul in ATL

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[RBW] Re: MTBubbe Update

[George Rosselle]

With practice you will learn to weight the back wheel for traction. In my 
experience I would rather have more traction in the front than the rear, 
because when I wash out the front it in a corner it increases the chance of 
a crash rather than if the back wheel slides a bit. Which is easier to 
correct for me.

Regarding going tubeless with the Atlas rim, maybe try a few more layers of 
tape in the well of the rim. That helped me when I was struggling with 
getting a tire to seat on another rim, which was not an Atlas but the 
principle is the same.



On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 7:53:58 PM UTC-4, Paul Clifton wrote:
>
> I'm a little sketched out trying to run tubeless on the Atlas rim. Should 
> I be? Maybe I'll try it. Is the advantage of a narrower tire in back just 
> rolling resistance? I really need traction going up the short steep rocky 
> uphills, and I've never been interested in going as fast as possible or 
> expending as little energy as possible. So I settled on fat and soft. But 
> I'm open to trying different combos and seeing if it makes any difference.
>
> The trails are in Sykes Park in East Point. Official opening is in early 
> June, I think. The park has one road that is a loop, and there are trails 
> visible from the road on either side. Trail access is from various parking 
> areas along the road. This is the only map I've found: 
> http://sorbaatlanta.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/RideFly-BikeParkTrails-Proposal-V1-4-1.jpg
>
>
> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 5:10:39 PM UTC-4, George Rosselle wrote:
>>
>> I have boscomoose bars on my old Fat Chance that I keep in FL, and I find 
>> them good for road rides and doubletrack, but not so good for singletrack, 
>> particularly when it is a tight twisty trail, like many around Atlanta. You 
>> will be happier with something that does not come back as far, maybe a bit 
>> more straight. And you will find the 2.35 tire will be better on the front, 
>> it will give you a bit of cush. Get a 2.1 for the back, Notubes was blowing 
>> out their 2.1 for $20, if you can set it up tubless you will be happy on 
>> the trail and the street. A little slip on the back on a trail is not bad, 
>> and tubeless will give you more cush and better traction if you run it with 
>> lower psi.
>>
>> Where do you access the new trail? I also live in the Atlanta area, and 
>> enjoy trying new trails. I am out on the east side, near Harbins and 
>> Tribble Mill and Fort Yargo trails.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:26:48 PM UTC-4, Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>
>>> A lot happened over the last 8 months or so, so I've been pretty content 
>>> riding my MTBubbe when I got the chance, rather than working on it, so 
>>> until last week, the bars were way to high and close.
>>>
>>> But a couple weeks ago, I found out that the local MTB group, 
>>> www.sorbaatlanta.org, was just about done building a few miles of 
>>> single track in a park less than a mile from my house. So I had to go check 
>>> it out. Here's how the bike looked the first time I went:
>>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Bars too high and too close, 1.8" semi-slick Gravel Kings. It turns out 
>>> the trail is an awesome mix of flow, with bumps and berms and jumps and 
>>> stuff, with some technical climbing, and some fast straight downhill. This 
>>> photo is probably the flattest part of the trail. I definitely lost 
>>> traction in some spots, especially on climbs. The bike still felt great, 
>>> but it was really time to swap the stem, at least.
>>>
>>> I also borrowed an old 2.35" wide tire from a friend of mine to do a 
>>> test fit, and ended up with a mullet bike:
>>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Business in the front. Party in the back! I did a couple laps in my 
>>> backyard to test out the tire, and decided I should go ahead and try out 
>>> the MTBubbe as a mountain bike. So I got a pair of Neo Motos and headed to 
>>> the trail last night.
>>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Holy cow. I'm beat today. The trail is basically along either side of a 
>>> drainage wash that goes into a fairly big creek (a tributary of Camp Creek 
>>> for you Civil War buffs), so there is not a single flat spot. There is an 
>>> inner loop and an outer loop. I did both loops twice. So maybe 5 or 6 
>>> miles. I'll take some pictures of the trail next time I go, but I was 
>>> having too much fun riding and just grabbed a quick photo at the end of the 
>>> ride.
>>>
>>> The tires are a huge improvement! So is the stem. I've learned a lot 
>>> already, riding these trails.
>>>
>>> 1. The Albatross bars are comfy on the trail and give plenty of control, 
>>> but they're a little impractical. They bump my knees in tight turns. I've 
>>> got a Jitensha bar and some rapid fire shifters that I'm going to try out 
>>> when I get a 26.0 clamp stem. I'm really hoping to try out that new curvy 
>>> bar that's been rumored around here.
>>>
>>> 2. Use the front brake, man. I usually use both brakes together, but on 
>>> the dirt, the 

[RBW] Re: MTBubbe Update

[Paul Clifton]

I'm a little sketched out trying to run tubeless on the Atlas rim. Should I 
be? Maybe I'll try it. Is the advantage of a narrower tire in back just 
rolling resistance? I really need traction going up the short steep rocky 
uphills, and I've never been interested in going as fast as possible or 
expending as little energy as possible. So I settled on fat and soft. But 
I'm open to trying different combos and seeing if it makes any difference.

The trails are in Sykes Park in East Point. Official opening is in early 
June, I think. The park has one road that is a loop, and there are trails 
visible from the road on either side. Trail access is from various parking 
areas along the road. This is the only map I've found: 
http://sorbaatlanta.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/RideFly-BikeParkTrails-Proposal-V1-4-1.jpg


On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 5:10:39 PM UTC-4, George Rosselle wrote:
>
> I have boscomoose bars on my old Fat Chance that I keep in FL, and I find 
> them good for road rides and doubletrack, but not so good for singletrack, 
> particularly when it is a tight twisty trail, like many around Atlanta. You 
> will be happier with something that does not come back as far, maybe a bit 
> more straight. And you will find the 2.35 tire will be better on the front, 
> it will give you a bit of cush. Get a 2.1 for the back, Notubes was blowing 
> out their 2.1 for $20, if you can set it up tubless you will be happy on 
> the trail and the street. A little slip on the back on a trail is not bad, 
> and tubeless will give you more cush and better traction if you run it with 
> lower psi.
>
> Where do you access the new trail? I also live in the Atlanta area, and 
> enjoy trying new trails. I am out on the east side, near Harbins and 
> Tribble Mill and Fort Yargo trails.
>
> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:26:48 PM UTC-4, Paul Clifton wrote:
>>
>> A lot happened over the last 8 months or so, so I've been pretty content 
>> riding my MTBubbe when I got the chance, rather than working on it, so 
>> until last week, the bars were way to high and close.
>>
>> But a couple weeks ago, I found out that the local MTB group, 
>> www.sorbaatlanta.org, was just about done building a few miles of single 
>> track in a park less than a mile from my house. So I had to go check it 
>> out. Here's how the bike looked the first time I went:
>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>
>> Bars too high and too close, 1.8" semi-slick Gravel Kings. It turns out 
>> the trail is an awesome mix of flow, with bumps and berms and jumps and 
>> stuff, with some technical climbing, and some fast straight downhill. This 
>> photo is probably the flattest part of the trail. I definitely lost 
>> traction in some spots, especially on climbs. The bike still felt great, 
>> but it was really time to swap the stem, at least.
>>
>> I also borrowed an old 2.35" wide tire from a friend of mine to do a test 
>> fit, and ended up with a mullet bike:
>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>
>> Business in the front. Party in the back! I did a couple laps in my 
>> backyard to test out the tire, and decided I should go ahead and try out 
>> the MTBubbe as a mountain bike. So I got a pair of Neo Motos and headed to 
>> the trail last night.
>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>
>> Holy cow. I'm beat today. The trail is basically along either side of a 
>> drainage wash that goes into a fairly big creek (a tributary of Camp Creek 
>> for you Civil War buffs), so there is not a single flat spot. There is an 
>> inner loop and an outer loop. I did both loops twice. So maybe 5 or 6 
>> miles. I'll take some pictures of the trail next time I go, but I was 
>> having too much fun riding and just grabbed a quick photo at the end of the 
>> ride.
>>
>> The tires are a huge improvement! So is the stem. I've learned a lot 
>> already, riding these trails.
>>
>> 1. The Albatross bars are comfy on the trail and give plenty of control, 
>> but they're a little impractical. They bump my knees in tight turns. I've 
>> got a Jitensha bar and some rapid fire shifters that I'm going to try out 
>> when I get a 26.0 clamp stem. I'm really hoping to try out that new curvy 
>> bar that's been rumored around here.
>>
>> 2. Use the front brake, man. I usually use both brakes together, but on 
>> the dirt, the back tire skids so easily that it's better to just not use it 
>> most of the time. I headed into a steep downhill section a little too fast, 
>> and had to almost lock down the front wheel to get through it. If I'd 
>> locked up the back wheel, I would've been in trouble. These Avid v-brakes 
>> are amazing though! They always seem to have a little more power to give. 
>> Front braking also makes bermed corners more fun and flowy.
>>
>> 3. Nobbies make a difference on dirt, at least for me. I read a good bit 
>> about tread before buying these tires. I'm not sure I came to any 
>> conclusions. The Neo Motos seemed good, and as seems to be the case with 
>> Panaracer, they were a good price too. I can 

Re: [RBW] Re: MTBubbe Update

[Paul Clifton]

Thanks for the tip. Torque-ing didn't work. I have a couple 2 bolt posts, 
but they aren't the right diameter. I'll see what I can come up with. I 
kinda like the look of the Thomson angled posts. I might even try one in 
black if I can find it for the right price. The S65 doesn't even have any 
knurling to keep it from tipping back. Seems like it should.

It's fun rediscovering mountain biking around here. Finally having a bike 
that can handle it with just a tire swap will make that easier to do.

On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:53:00 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Congrats on the bike!  Glad you're giving it a chance to show its "burly" 
> side.
>
> You can try torque-ing down the saddle clamp bolt to prevent it from 
> shifting.
>
> But, any two-bolt seatpost will clamp more securely than the Nitto S65 
> Crystal Fellow (or clone) you're using.  
> The Nitto S83 or lugged S84 are the Riv-supplied solutions.  I also see 
> two-bolt posts in silver from Ritchey, Deda, and others.  
> I like the clamp head on Thomson posts, but they only come in straight 
> (not enough setback with a Brooks) or angled (proper setback, weird 
> looks).  Soma's Zero post has the same problem (lack of setback).
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Paul Clifton  > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Any suggestions for a seat post that will keep my saddle from tilting 
>>> back when I bounce around on it?
>>>
>>> Paul in ATL
>>>
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[RBW] Re: MTBubbe Update

[George Rosselle]

I have boscomoose bars on my old Fat Chance that I keep in FL, and I find 
them good for road rides and doubletrack, but not so good for singletrack, 
particularly when it is a tight twisty trail, like many around Atlanta. You 
will be happier with something that does not come back as far, maybe a bit 
more straight. And you will find the 2.35 tire will be better on the front, 
it will give you a bit of cush. Get a 2.1 for the back, Notubes was blowing 
out their 2.1 for $20, if you can set it up tubless you will be happy on 
the trail and the street. A little slip on the back on a trail is not bad, 
and tubeless will give you more cush and better traction if you run it with 
lower psi.

Where do you access the new trail? I also live in the Atlanta area, and 
enjoy trying new trails. I am out on the east side, near Harbins and 
Tribble Mill and Fort Yargo trails.

On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:26:48 PM UTC-4, Paul Clifton wrote:
>
> A lot happened over the last 8 months or so, so I've been pretty content 
> riding my MTBubbe when I got the chance, rather than working on it, so 
> until last week, the bars were way to high and close.
>
> But a couple weeks ago, I found out that the local MTB group, 
> www.sorbaatlanta.org, was just about done building a few miles of single 
> track in a park less than a mile from my house. So I had to go check it 
> out. Here's how the bike looked the first time I went:
> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> Bars too high and too close, 1.8" semi-slick Gravel Kings. It turns out 
> the trail is an awesome mix of flow, with bumps and berms and jumps and 
> stuff, with some technical climbing, and some fast straight downhill. This 
> photo is probably the flattest part of the trail. I definitely lost 
> traction in some spots, especially on climbs. The bike still felt great, 
> but it was really time to swap the stem, at least.
>
> I also borrowed an old 2.35" wide tire from a friend of mine to do a test 
> fit, and ended up with a mullet bike:
> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> Business in the front. Party in the back! I did a couple laps in my 
> backyard to test out the tire, and decided I should go ahead and try out 
> the MTBubbe as a mountain bike. So I got a pair of Neo Motos and headed to 
> the trail last night.
> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> Holy cow. I'm beat today. The trail is basically along either side of a 
> drainage wash that goes into a fairly big creek (a tributary of Camp Creek 
> for you Civil War buffs), so there is not a single flat spot. There is an 
> inner loop and an outer loop. I did both loops twice. So maybe 5 or 6 
> miles. I'll take some pictures of the trail next time I go, but I was 
> having too much fun riding and just grabbed a quick photo at the end of the 
> ride.
>
> The tires are a huge improvement! So is the stem. I've learned a lot 
> already, riding these trails.
>
> 1. The Albatross bars are comfy on the trail and give plenty of control, 
> but they're a little impractical. They bump my knees in tight turns. I've 
> got a Jitensha bar and some rapid fire shifters that I'm going to try out 
> when I get a 26.0 clamp stem. I'm really hoping to try out that new curvy 
> bar that's been rumored around here.
>
> 2. Use the front brake, man. I usually use both brakes together, but on 
> the dirt, the back tire skids so easily that it's better to just not use it 
> most of the time. I headed into a steep downhill section a little too fast, 
> and had to almost lock down the front wheel to get through it. If I'd 
> locked up the back wheel, I would've been in trouble. These Avid v-brakes 
> are amazing though! They always seem to have a little more power to give. 
> Front braking also makes bermed corners more fun and flowy.
>
> 3. Nobbies make a difference on dirt, at least for me. I read a good bit 
> about tread before buying these tires. I'm not sure I came to any 
> conclusions. The Neo Motos seemed good, and as seems to be the case with 
> Panaracer, they were a good price too. I can definitely clear a couple 
> spots that I couldn't on the semi-slick Gravel Kings, but the ride to the 
> trail isn't as smooth.
>
> 4. MTB riders know what they're doing with high bottom brackets, single 
> tiny front chainrings, and short crank arms. There are places that my big 
> ring and bottom bracket just won't clear on these trails. I'll have to 
> figure out a line to take that doesn't bottom out my bike.
>
> So the MTBubbe fits 2.3" Neo Motos on Atlas rims, and it really is an 
> insanely versatile and fun bike. I can't wait to ride some more trails! 
> This opens up a whole new chunk of the city to ramble around.
>
>
> 
>
> Any suggestions for a seat post that will keep my saddle from tilting back 
> when I bounce around on it?
>
> Paul in ATL
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: MTBubbe Update

[Tim Gavin]

Congrats on the bike!  Glad you're giving it a chance to show its "burly"
side.

You can try torque-ing down the saddle clamp bolt to prevent it from
shifting.

But, any two-bolt seatpost will clamp more securely than the Nitto S65
Crystal Fellow (or clone) you're using.
The Nitto S83 or lugged S84 are the Riv-supplied solutions.  I also see
two-bolt posts in silver from Ritchey, Deda, and others.
I like the clamp head on Thomson posts, but they only come in straight (not
enough setback with a Brooks) or angled (proper setback, weird looks).
Soma's Zero post has the same problem (lack of setback).



On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:
>
>
>> Any suggestions for a seat post that will keep my saddle from tilting
>> back when I bounce around on it?
>>
>> Paul in ATL
>>
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[RBW] Re: MTBubbe Update

[Paul Clifton]

Aww drat. It deleted the photos when I posted for some reason. It seems 
like it doesn't like me dragging and dropping from my desktop, so I'll try 
the insert images button. Here they are:







And just for fun, here's one from Florida in January








On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:26:48 PM UTC-4, Paul Clifton wrote:
>
> A lot happened over the last 8 months or so, so I've been pretty content 
> riding my MTBubbe when I got the chance, rather than working on it, so 
> until last week, the bars were way to high and close.
>
> But a couple weeks ago, I found out that the local MTB group, 
> www.sorbaatlanta.org, was just about done building a few miles of single 
> track in a park less than a mile from my house. So I had to go check it 
> out. Here's how the bike looked the first time I went:
> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> Bars too high and too close, 1.8" semi-slick Gravel Kings. It turns out 
> the trail is an awesome mix of flow, with bumps and berms and jumps and 
> stuff, with some technical climbing, and some fast straight downhill. This 
> photo is probably the flattest part of the trail. I definitely lost 
> traction in some spots, especially on climbs. The bike still felt great, 
> but it was really time to swap the stem, at least.
>
> I also borrowed an old 2.35" wide tire from a friend of mine to do a test 
> fit, and ended up with a mullet bike:
> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> Business in the front. Party in the back! I did a couple laps in my 
> backyard to test out the tire, and decided I should go ahead and try out 
> the MTBubbe as a mountain bike. So I got a pair of Neo Motos and headed to 
> the trail last night.
> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> Holy cow. I'm beat today. The trail is basically along either side of a 
> drainage wash that goes into a fairly big creek (a tributary of Camp Creek 
> for you Civil War buffs), so there is not a single flat spot. There is an 
> inner loop and an outer loop. I did both loops twice. So maybe 5 or 6 
> miles. I'll take some pictures of the trail next time I go, but I was 
> having too much fun riding and just grabbed a quick photo at the end of the 
> ride.
>
> The tires are a huge improvement! So is the stem. I've learned a lot 
> already, riding these trails.
>
> 1. The Albatross bars are comfy on the trail and give plenty of control, 
> but they're a little impractical. They bump my knees in tight turns. I've 
> got a Jitensha bar and some rapid fire shifters that I'm going to try out 
> when I get a 26.0 clamp stem. I'm really hoping to try out that new curvy 
> bar that's been rumored around here.
>
> 2. Use the front brake, man. I usually use both brakes together, but on 
> the dirt, the back tire skids so easily that it's better to just not use it 
> most of the time. I headed into a steep downhill section a little too fast, 
> and had to almost lock down the front wheel to get through it. If I'd 
> locked up the back wheel, I would've been in trouble. These Avid v-brakes 
> are amazing though! They always seem to have a little more power to give. 
> Front braking also makes bermed corners more fun and flowy.
>
> 3. Nobbies make a difference on dirt, at least for me. I read a good bit 
> about tread before buying these tires. I'm not sure I came to any 
> conclusions. The Neo Motos seemed good, and as seems to be the case with 
> Panaracer, they were a good price too. I can definitely clear a couple 
> spots that I couldn't on the semi-slick Gravel Kings, but the ride to the 
> trail isn't as smooth.
>
> 4. MTB riders know what they're doing with high bottom brackets, single 
> tiny front chainrings, and short crank arms. There are places that my big 
> ring and bottom bracket just won't clear on these trails. I'll have to 
> figure out a line to take that doesn't bottom out my bike.
>
> So the MTBubbe fits 2.3" Neo Motos on Atlas rims, and it really is an 
> insanely versatile and fun bike. I can't wait to ride some more trails! 
> This opens up a whole new chunk of the city to ramble around.
>
>
> 
>
> Any suggestions for a seat post that will keep my saddle from tilting back 
> when I bounce around on it?
>
> Paul in ATL
>

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