Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-10-04 Thread Marc Irwin


 I finally took the time to post a recap of the weekend with a bunch of 
 photos on my blog if anybody wants to take a look 
 https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=5384807982946756823#editor/target=post;postID=242268957412761;onPublishedMenu=allposts;onClosedMenu=allposts;postNum=0;src=postname
 .

I certainly enjoyed the weekend lugged steel, bondage and expresso just go 
together.

Marc 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-10-04 Thread cyclotourist
Linkity-link doesn't work...

Cheers,
David

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 I finally took the time to post a recap of the weekend with a bunch of
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 https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=5384807982946756823#editor/target=post;postID=242268957412761;onPublishedMenu=allposts;onClosedMenu=allposts;postNum=0;src=postname
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 I certainly enjoyed the weekend lugged steel, bondage and expresso just go
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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-10-04 Thread Marc Irwin


 I finally took the time to post a recap of the weekend with a bunch of 
 photos on my blog if anybody wants to take a look. 
 http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2014/10/what-weekend.html

I certainly enjoyed the weekend lugged steel, bondage and expresso just go 
together.
It's fixed.

Marc

On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:46:26 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Linkity-link doesn't work...

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal




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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-10-04 Thread Tom Goodmann
Thanks for sharing, David; nice write-up.  --Tom  . . . still hot in Miami

On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote:

 I finally took the time to post a recap of the weekend with a bunch of
 photos on my blog if anybody wants to take a look.
 http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2014/10/what-weekend.html

 I certainly enjoyed the weekend lugged steel, bondage and expresso just go
 together.
 It's fixed.

 Marc

 On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:46:26 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Linkity-link doesn't work...

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal




 On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I finally took the time to post a recap of the weekend with a bunch of
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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-10-04 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Really nice write-up and photos Marc!

On Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:10:51 PM UTC-5, Marc Irwin wrote:

 I finally took the time to post a recap of the weekend with a bunch of 
 photos on my blog if anybody wants to take a look. 
 http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2014/10/what-weekend.html

 I certainly enjoyed the weekend lugged steel, bondage and expresso just go 
 together.
 It's fixed.

 Marc

 On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:46:26 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Linkity-link doesn't work...

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal




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 I finally took the time to post a recap of the weekend with a bunch of 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-09-30 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
We broke the MCBR weekend into 4 parts. Friday night we rode to a Saint Paul 
establishment for dinner and drinks. I think there were around 15 of us at the 
start. There were at least two Rivs in attendance: Marc's gorgeous Hunq and 
Tim's first-year Riv Road. Lillian was riding a San Marcos. Hope I'm not 
forgetting anyone. The rest of the group was riding various other brands of 
Country Bike.

Saturday morning, we tested several fat bike models on some dirt trails in Fort 
Snelling state park. Some park employees and other passersby  came over to try 
the bikes. The new Surly Ice Cream Truck seemed to be a hit. Highlight for me: 
My wife's non-cycling 61yo aunt rode the XS ICT over some challenging off-trail 
terrain and smiled the whole time.

Saturday afternoon, the group rode a section of the Minnesota River Bottoms. 
This is basically a mostly flat, non-technical dirt trail along the Minnesota 
River. The trail is unofficial and mostly maintained by volunteers. 
Unfortunately, the state park people recently cleared the portion of the 
trail that runs through the park. Their hearts were in the right place, but it 
looks like they used a bulldozer, and just pushed sand and trees around, 
leaving the trail worse for the wear in places. Most of us were on fat bikes or 
mountain bikes, but Sean showed up with a Hilsen and JB tires, which handled 
the dirt with ease, and made the rest of us feel kinda silly. 

Sunday was the pavement ride. We started from HC, and followed the Minnehaha 
Creek bike trail to the Minneapolis chain of lakes. One of the ride 
participants lost her wallet and phone the night before at an ice cream shop in 
Uptown, so we stopped there to ask if they'd found it. Luckily, they had, and 
everything seemed to be in order. We had a small conference on where to go 
next, and decided to head to a nearby coffee shop that features a gay 
leather/bondage theme. I restocked my supply of leather-scented body wash. So 
that was fun. From there, we hit the Bryant Ave bikeway, Loring Park, Downtown 
Minneapolis, Nicollet Mall, Hennepin Ave bridge, Saint Anthony Main, Stone Arch 
Bridge, University of Minnesota, the new Dinkytown greenway, U of MN 
transitway, Como Park, Frogtown, downtown Saint Paul, then across the river to 
climb the infamous Ohio St hill, Cherokee Park, followed by a thrilling descent 
on Hwy 13 into Mendota. I said my goodbyes and headed home from there, happy to 
have shown the riders such a broad cross-section of the Twin Cities amazing 
cycling opportunities.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-09-30 Thread Tom Goodmann
Sounds like a wonderful weekend, describing a potential future for so many
communities to begin planning and building as MSP has already done, and
continues to do.  Miami has less infrastructure, and not nearly such a
well-developed bicycling culture, but we're getting there via efforts such
as Critical Mass rides, places such as Magic City Bicycle Collective, and
groups such as Emerge Miami.  Also, we get somewhat less snow than the Twin
Cities. :)  --a fact that makes such a commitment from the MSP community
all the more impressive.  Wish I could have made it there!  --Tom  Miami, FL

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
thill@gmail.com wrote:

 We broke the MCBR weekend into 4 parts. Friday night we rode to a Saint
 Paul establishment for dinner and drinks. I think there were around 15 of
 us at the start. There were at least two Rivs in attendance: Marc's
 gorgeous Hunq and Tim's first-year Riv Road. Lillian was riding a San
 Marcos. Hope I'm not forgetting anyone. The rest of the group was riding
 various other brands of Country Bike.

 Saturday morning, we tested several fat bike models on some dirt trails in
 Fort Snelling state park. Some park employees and other passersby  came
 over to try the bikes. The new Surly Ice Cream Truck seemed to be a hit.
 Highlight for me: My wife's non-cycling 61yo aunt rode the XS ICT over some
 challenging off-trail terrain and smiled the whole time.

 Saturday afternoon, the group rode a section of the Minnesota River
 Bottoms. This is basically a mostly flat, non-technical dirt trail along
 the Minnesota River. The trail is unofficial and mostly maintained by
 volunteers. Unfortunately, the state park people recently cleared the
 portion of the trail that runs through the park. Their hearts were in the
 right place, but it looks like they used a bulldozer, and just pushed sand
 and trees around, leaving the trail worse for the wear in places. Most of
 us were on fat bikes or mountain bikes, but Sean showed up with a Hilsen
 and JB tires, which handled the dirt with ease, and made the rest of us
 feel kinda silly.

 Sunday was the pavement ride. We started from HC, and followed the
 Minnehaha Creek bike trail to the Minneapolis chain of lakes. One of the
 ride participants lost her wallet and phone the night before at an ice
 cream shop in Uptown, so we stopped there to ask if they'd found it.
 Luckily, they had, and everything seemed to be in order. We had a small
 conference on where to go next, and decided to head to a nearby coffee shop
 that features a gay leather/bondage theme. I restocked my supply of
 leather-scented body wash. So that was fun. From there, we hit the Bryant
 Ave bikeway, Loring Park, Downtown Minneapolis, Nicollet Mall, Hennepin Ave
 bridge, Saint Anthony Main, Stone Arch Bridge, University of Minnesota, the
 new Dinkytown greenway, U of MN transitway, Como Park, Frogtown, downtown
 Saint Paul, then across the river to climb the infamous Ohio St hill,
 Cherokee Park, followed by a thrilling descent on Hwy 13 into Mendota. I
 said my goodbyes and headed home from there, happy to have shown the riders
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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-09-30 Thread Anne Paulson
What was it that people liked about the Ice Cream Truck? What made it fun?

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:
 We broke the MCBR weekend into 4 parts. Friday night we rode to a Saint Paul 
 establishment for dinner and drinks. I think there were around 15 of us at 
 the start. There were at least two Rivs in attendance: Marc's gorgeous Hunq 
 and Tim's first-year Riv Road. Lillian was riding a San Marcos. Hope I'm not 
 forgetting anyone. The rest of the group was riding various other brands of 
 Country Bike.

 Saturday morning, we tested several fat bike models on some dirt trails in 
 Fort Snelling state park. Some park employees and other passersby  came over 
 to try the bikes. The new Surly Ice Cream Truck seemed to be a hit. Highlight 
 for me: My wife's non-cycling 61yo aunt rode the XS ICT over some challenging 
 off-trail terrain and smiled the whole time.

 Saturday afternoon, the group rode a section of the Minnesota River Bottoms. 
 This is basically a mostly flat, non-technical dirt trail along the Minnesota 
 River. The trail is unofficial and mostly maintained by volunteers. 
 Unfortunately, the state park people recently cleared the portion of the 
 trail that runs through the park. Their hearts were in the right place, but 
 it looks like they used a bulldozer, and just pushed sand and trees around, 
 leaving the trail worse for the wear in places. Most of us were on fat bikes 
 or mountain bikes, but Sean showed up with a Hilsen and JB tires, which 
 handled the dirt with ease, and made the rest of us feel kinda silly.

 Sunday was the pavement ride. We started from HC, and followed the Minnehaha 
 Creek bike trail to the Minneapolis chain of lakes. One of the ride 
 participants lost her wallet and phone the night before at an ice cream shop 
 in Uptown, so we stopped there to ask if they'd found it. Luckily, they had, 
 and everything seemed to be in order. We had a small conference on where to 
 go next, and decided to head to a nearby coffee shop that features a gay 
 leather/bondage theme. I restocked my supply of leather-scented body wash. So 
 that was fun. From there, we hit the Bryant Ave bikeway, Loring Park, 
 Downtown Minneapolis, Nicollet Mall, Hennepin Ave bridge, Saint Anthony Main, 
 Stone Arch Bridge, University of Minnesota, the new Dinkytown greenway, U of 
 MN transitway, Como Park, Frogtown, downtown Saint Paul, then across the 
 river to climb the infamous Ohio St hill, Cherokee Park, followed by a 
 thrilling descent on Hwy 13 into Mendota. I said my goodbyes and headed home 
 from there, happy to have shown the riders such a broad cross-section of the 
 Twin Cities amazing cycling opportunities.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-09-30 Thread Tim Gavin
The ginormous 5 tires!  The ICT just rolled over everything, like a
monster truck, powered by grins.

The sparkly blue paint job ain't bad, either.  But the sparkly black on one
Moonlander is the best Surly paint I've seen so far.

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com
wrote:

 What was it that people liked about the Ice Cream Truck? What made it fun?

 On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 thill@gmail.com wrote:
  We broke the MCBR weekend into 4 parts. Friday night we rode to a Saint
 Paul establishment for dinner and drinks. I think there were around 15 of
 us at the start. There were at least two Rivs in attendance: Marc's
 gorgeous Hunq and Tim's first-year Riv Road. Lillian was riding a San
 Marcos. Hope I'm not forgetting anyone. The rest of the group was riding
 various other brands of Country Bike.
 
  Saturday morning, we tested several fat bike models on some dirt trails
 in Fort Snelling state park. Some park employees and other passersby  came
 over to try the bikes. The new Surly Ice Cream Truck seemed to be a hit.
 Highlight for me: My wife's non-cycling 61yo aunt rode the XS ICT over some
 challenging off-trail terrain and smiled the whole time.
 
  Saturday afternoon, the group rode a section of the Minnesota River
 Bottoms. This is basically a mostly flat, non-technical dirt trail along
 the Minnesota River. The trail is unofficial and mostly maintained by
 volunteers. Unfortunately, the state park people recently cleared the
 portion of the trail that runs through the park. Their hearts were in the
 right place, but it looks like they used a bulldozer, and just pushed sand
 and trees around, leaving the trail worse for the wear in places. Most of
 us were on fat bikes or mountain bikes, but Sean showed up with a Hilsen
 and JB tires, which handled the dirt with ease, and made the rest of us
 feel kinda silly.
 
  Sunday was the pavement ride. We started from HC, and followed the
 Minnehaha Creek bike trail to the Minneapolis chain of lakes. One of the
 ride participants lost her wallet and phone the night before at an ice
 cream shop in Uptown, so we stopped there to ask if they'd found it.
 Luckily, they had, and everything seemed to be in order. We had a small
 conference on where to go next, and decided to head to a nearby coffee shop
 that features a gay leather/bondage theme. I restocked my supply of
 leather-scented body wash. So that was fun. From there, we hit the Bryant
 Ave bikeway, Loring Park, Downtown Minneapolis, Nicollet Mall, Hennepin Ave
 bridge, Saint Anthony Main, Stone Arch Bridge, University of Minnesota, the
 new Dinkytown greenway, U of MN transitway, Como Park, Frogtown, downtown
 Saint Paul, then across the river to climb the infamous Ohio St hill,
 Cherokee Park, followed by a thrilling descent on Hwy 13 into Mendota. I
 said my goodbyes and headed home from there, happy to have shown the riders
 such a broad cross-section of the Twin Cities amazing cycling opportunities.
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-09-30 Thread Dan A
While I enjoyed the ice cream truck I actually preferred the good old Pugsley. 
My freakishly large legs would occasionally hit the wide seat stays on the ice 
cream truck. I also prefer the marginally narrower bottom bracket on the 
Pugsley. Either way fat bikes are a blast. I imagine at some point I may end up 
with one but I would need to cull the herd a little first. 

Dan Abelson 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-09-30 Thread Anne Paulson
That's one thing I like about my 3 tires: I don't have to jump curbs
and small logs. I just ride at them, and go over.

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Tim Gavin
tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote:
 The ginormous 5 tires!  The ICT just rolled over everything, like a monster
 truck, powered by grins.

 The sparkly blue paint job ain't bad, either.  But the sparkly black on one
 Moonlander is the best Surly paint I've seen so far.

 On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 What was it that people liked about the Ice Cream Truck? What made it fun?

 On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 thill@gmail.com wrote:
  We broke the MCBR weekend into 4 parts. Friday night we rode to a Saint
  Paul establishment for dinner and drinks. I think there were around 15 of 
  us
  at the start. There were at least two Rivs in attendance: Marc's gorgeous
  Hunq and Tim's first-year Riv Road. Lillian was riding a San Marcos. Hope
  I'm not forgetting anyone. The rest of the group was riding various other
  brands of Country Bike.
 
  Saturday morning, we tested several fat bike models on some dirt trails
  in Fort Snelling state park. Some park employees and other passersby  came
  over to try the bikes. The new Surly Ice Cream Truck seemed to be a hit.
  Highlight for me: My wife's non-cycling 61yo aunt rode the XS ICT over some
  challenging off-trail terrain and smiled the whole time.
 
  Saturday afternoon, the group rode a section of the Minnesota River
  Bottoms. This is basically a mostly flat, non-technical dirt trail along 
  the
  Minnesota River. The trail is unofficial and mostly maintained by
  volunteers. Unfortunately, the state park people recently cleared the
  portion of the trail that runs through the park. Their hearts were in the
  right place, but it looks like they used a bulldozer, and just pushed sand
  and trees around, leaving the trail worse for the wear in places. Most of 
  us
  were on fat bikes or mountain bikes, but Sean showed up with a Hilsen and 
  JB
  tires, which handled the dirt with ease, and made the rest of us feel kinda
  silly.
 
  Sunday was the pavement ride. We started from HC, and followed the
  Minnehaha Creek bike trail to the Minneapolis chain of lakes. One of the
  ride participants lost her wallet and phone the night before at an ice 
  cream
  shop in Uptown, so we stopped there to ask if they'd found it. Luckily, 
  they
  had, and everything seemed to be in order. We had a small conference on
  where to go next, and decided to head to a nearby coffee shop that features
  a gay leather/bondage theme. I restocked my supply of leather-scented body
  wash. So that was fun. From there, we hit the Bryant Ave bikeway, Loring
  Park, Downtown Minneapolis, Nicollet Mall, Hennepin Ave bridge, Saint
  Anthony Main, Stone Arch Bridge, University of Minnesota, the new Dinkytown
  greenway, U of MN transitway, Como Park, Frogtown, downtown Saint Paul, 
  then
  across the river to climb the infamous Ohio St hill, Cherokee Park, 
  followed
  by a thrilling descent on Hwy 13 into Mendota. I said my goodbyes and 
  headed
  home from there, happy to have shown the riders such a broad cross-section
  of the Twin Cities amazing cycling opportunities.
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-09-27 Thread Eric Platt
Anne,

The fat bikes were fun.  The new Ice Cream Truck is the best of the bunch.
Well, except for a Ventana with a shocked fork.  However, when all was said
and done, if I were to buy a new fatbike, it would be an ECR.  That is more
my preference in both handling and comfort while riding.

We spent the rest of the afternoon riding the Missisippi river bottoms.
Basically hardpacked sand/mud with occasional stretches of sand. There were
a couple of Rivendells on that ride, but most of the riders were on
fatbikes or other Surly bikes. (I rode my Surly Ogre with 2.3 inch tires
and someone else was on a Surly Troll.)

Unfortunately, due to job (yesterday) and band practice (tomorrow) am
unable to make the other events.  Jim or someone else will need to post a
report.

All in all, a fun day.  Even if I wasn't on my Rivendell.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hey country bike people, report back to us how you like the fat bikes
 in the demos.

 On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Tim Gavin
 tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote:
  That's great news, Jim!  My girlfriend and I are excited for the demo.
  We'll meet you at HC tonight!
 
  Tim
 
  On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
  thill@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Surly loaned me several fat bikes. Four Ice Cream Trucks and a couple
  Moonlanders in various sizes. We will add these to the HC family fat
 bike
  stable, and have lots of bikes available to demo. 9am 9/27 Saturday
 morning.
  Meet at HC to ride to the demo site, or just go to the parking lot near
 the
  interpretive center at Fort Snelling state park.
 
 
  On Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:52:35 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
  Cyclery wrote:
 
  Hey, I finally posted some details about the rally next weekend. Hope
 to
  see many of you there. tell your friends!
 
 
 http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2014/09/country-bike-rally-details.html
 
  On Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:48:15 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
  Cyclery wrote:
 
  Ha, I enjoy the drive across northern Wisconsin! Too bad you can't
 make
  it, Michael.
 
  On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 3:35:52 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:
 
  Jim, Alas Pat and I need to bow out of this event, although we are
  sorry to miss it.  It turns out that after a very,very, busy summer
 neither
  one of us was up for the 4 days of driving to  from St Paul.  We
 have made
  the trip before.  The road through Ontario is really only worth
 seeing once
  and after you leave Green Bay (the bay not the city) northern
 Wisconsin is
  dreadfully boring.  We need to relax more, spend and drive less.  We
 will
  drive one day through scenic southern NE and then take the tandem to
 Block
  Island ( 6 hours off the coast of RI) for two days.
 
  Michael
 
 
  On Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:05:41 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
  Cyclery wrote:
 
  Been chatting with some friends, and I think it might be fun to
 have a
  fatbike demo on one of the days. Fat bikes have nothing to do with
  Rivendell, but they are about as country as bikes get. Any
 thoughts?
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-09-26 Thread Tim Gavin
That's great news, Jim!  My girlfriend and I are excited for the demo.
We'll meet you at HC tonight!

Tim

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
thill@gmail.com wrote:

 Surly loaned me several fat bikes. Four Ice Cream Trucks and a couple
 Moonlanders in various sizes. We will add these to the HC family fat bike
 stable, and have lots of bikes available to demo. 9am 9/27 Saturday
 morning. Meet at HC to ride to the demo site, or just go to the parking lot
 near the interpretive center at Fort Snelling state park.


 On Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:52:35 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
 Cyclery wrote:

 Hey, I finally posted some details about the rally next weekend. Hope to
 see many of you there. tell your friends!
 http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2014/09/country-
 bike-rally-details.html

 On Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:48:15 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
 Cyclery wrote:

 Ha, I enjoy the drive across northern Wisconsin! Too bad you can't make
 it, Michael.

 On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 3:35:52 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Jim, Alas Pat and I need to bow out of this event, although we are
 sorry to miss it.  It turns out that after a very,very, busy summer neither
 one of us was up for the 4 days of driving to  from St Paul.  We have made
 the trip before.  The road through Ontario is really only worth seeing once
 and after you leave Green Bay (the bay not the city) northern Wisconsin is
 dreadfully boring.  We need to relax more, spend and drive less.  We will
 drive one day through scenic southern NE and then take the tandem to Block
 Island ( 6 hours off the coast of RI) for two days.

 Michael


 On Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:05:41 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
 Cyclery wrote:

 Been chatting with some friends, and I think it might be fun to have a
 fatbike demo on one of the days. Fat bikes have nothing to do with
 Rivendell, but they are about as country as bikes get. Any thoughts?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-09-26 Thread Anne Paulson
Hey country bike people, report back to us how you like the fat bikes
in the demos.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Tim Gavin
tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote:
 That's great news, Jim!  My girlfriend and I are excited for the demo.
 We'll meet you at HC tonight!

 Tim

 On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 thill@gmail.com wrote:

 Surly loaned me several fat bikes. Four Ice Cream Trucks and a couple
 Moonlanders in various sizes. We will add these to the HC family fat bike
 stable, and have lots of bikes available to demo. 9am 9/27 Saturday morning.
 Meet at HC to ride to the demo site, or just go to the parking lot near the
 interpretive center at Fort Snelling state park.


 On Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:52:35 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
 Cyclery wrote:

 Hey, I finally posted some details about the rally next weekend. Hope to
 see many of you there. tell your friends!

 http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2014/09/country-bike-rally-details.html

 On Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:48:15 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
 Cyclery wrote:

 Ha, I enjoy the drive across northern Wisconsin! Too bad you can't make
 it, Michael.

 On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 3:35:52 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Jim, Alas Pat and I need to bow out of this event, although we are
 sorry to miss it.  It turns out that after a very,very, busy summer 
 neither
 one of us was up for the 4 days of driving to  from St Paul.  We have 
 made
 the trip before.  The road through Ontario is really only worth seeing 
 once
 and after you leave Green Bay (the bay not the city) northern Wisconsin is
 dreadfully boring.  We need to relax more, spend and drive less.  We will
 drive one day through scenic southern NE and then take the tandem to Block
 Island ( 6 hours off the coast of RI) for two days.

 Michael


 On Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:05:41 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
 Cyclery wrote:

 Been chatting with some friends, and I think it might be fun to have a
 fatbike demo on one of the days. Fat bikes have nothing to do with
 Rivendell, but they are about as country as bikes get. Any thoughts?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-09-24 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Surly loaned me several fat bikes. Four Ice Cream Trucks and a couple 
Moonlanders in various sizes. We will add these to the HC family fat bike 
stable, and have lots of bikes available to demo. 9am 9/27 Saturday 
morning. Meet at HC to ride to the demo site, or just go to the parking lot 
near the interpretive center at Fort Snelling state park.

On Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:52:35 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:

 Hey, I finally posted some details about the rally next weekend. Hope to 
 see many of you there. tell your friends!
 http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2014/09/country-bike-rally-details.html

 On Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:48:15 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
 Cyclery wrote:

 Ha, I enjoy the drive across northern Wisconsin! Too bad you can't make 
 it, Michael. 

 On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 3:35:52 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Jim, Alas Pat and I need to bow out of this event, although we are sorry 
 to miss it.  It turns out that after a very,very, busy summer neither one 
 of us was up for the 4 days of driving to  from St Paul.  We have made the 
 trip before.  The road through Ontario is really only worth seeing once and 
 after you leave Green Bay (the bay not the city) northern Wisconsin is 
 dreadfully boring.  We need to relax more, spend and drive less.  We will 
 drive one day through scenic southern NE and then take the tandem to Block 
 Island ( 6 hours off the coast of RI) for two days.

 Michael


 On Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:05:41 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
 Cyclery wrote:

 Been chatting with some friends, and I think it might be fun to have a 
 fatbike demo on one of the days. Fat bikes have nothing to do with 
 Rivendell, but they are about as country as bikes get. Any thoughts? 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-09-20 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Hey, I finally posted some details about the rally next weekend. Hope to 
see many of you there. tell your friends!
http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2014/09/country-bike-rally-details.html

On Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:48:15 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:

 Ha, I enjoy the drive across northern Wisconsin! Too bad you can't make 
 it, Michael. 

 On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 3:35:52 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Jim, Alas Pat and I need to bow out of this event, although we are sorry 
 to miss it.  It turns out that after a very,very, busy summer neither one 
 of us was up for the 4 days of driving to  from St Paul.  We have made the 
 trip before.  The road through Ontario is really only worth seeing once and 
 after you leave Green Bay (the bay not the city) northern Wisconsin is 
 dreadfully boring.  We need to relax more, spend and drive less.  We will 
 drive one day through scenic southern NE and then take the tandem to Block 
 Island ( 6 hours off the coast of RI) for two days.

 Michael


 On Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:05:41 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
 Cyclery wrote:

 Been chatting with some friends, and I think it might be fun to have a 
 fatbike demo on one of the days. Fat bikes have nothing to do with 
 Rivendell, but they are about as country as bikes get. Any thoughts? 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-09-11 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Ha, I enjoy the drive across northern Wisconsin! Too bad you can't make it, 
Michael. 

On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 3:35:52 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Jim, Alas Pat and I need to bow out of this event, although we are sorry 
 to miss it.  It turns out that after a very,very, busy summer neither one 
 of us was up for the 4 days of driving to  from St Paul.  We have made the 
 trip before.  The road through Ontario is really only worth seeing once and 
 after you leave Green Bay (the bay not the city) northern Wisconsin is 
 dreadfully boring.  We need to relax more, spend and drive less.  We will 
 drive one day through scenic southern NE and then take the tandem to Block 
 Island ( 6 hours off the coast of RI) for two days.

 Michael


 On Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:05:41 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
 Cyclery wrote:

 Been chatting with some friends, and I think it might be fun to have a 
 fatbike demo on one of the days. Fat bikes have nothing to do with 
 Rivendell, but they are about as country as bikes get. Any thoughts? 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-09-09 Thread Michael Hechmer
Jim, Alas Pat and I need to bow out of this event, although we are sorry to 
miss it.  It turns out that after a very,very, busy summer neither one of 
us was up for the 4 days of driving to  from St Paul.  We have made the 
trip before.  The road through Ontario is really only worth seeing once and 
after you leave Green Bay (the bay not the city) northern Wisconsin is 
dreadfully boring.  We need to relax more, spend and drive less.  We will 
drive one day through scenic southern NE and then take the tandem to Block 
Island ( 6 hours off the coast of RI) for two days.

Michael


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Cyclery wrote:

 Been chatting with some friends, and I think it might be fun to have a 
 fatbike demo on one of the days. Fat bikes have nothing to do with 
 Rivendell, but they are about as country as bikes get. Any thoughts? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-08-30 Thread Marc Irwin
Sounds good, I've only been able to ride one a short distance in parking 
lot.

Marc

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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-08-30 Thread Anne Paulson
I'm not able to go, although I wish I could, so maybe my opinion
should be discounted, but I say YES on the fatbike demo. Fatbikes and
29+ bikes seem Rivvish to me. It seems like fatbikes are practical,
simple and no-nonsense for the kinds of riding they're for, in a
Rivvish practical no-nonsense way.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-08-30 Thread Eric Platt
Jim know, but I'm voting yes.  But only on Saturday.  May be heading out of
town on Sunday.  Am hoping to make at least part of this.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


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 I'm not able to go, although I wish I could, so maybe my opinion
 should be discounted, but I say YES on the fatbike demo. Fatbikes and
 29+ bikes seem Rivvish to me. It seems like fatbikes are practical,
 simple and no-nonsense for the kinds of riding they're for, in a
 Rivvish practical no-nonsense way.

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 thill@gmail.com wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-08-28 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Been chatting with some friends, and I think it might be fun to have a fatbike 
demo on one of the days. Fat bikes have nothing to do with Rivendell, but they 
are about as country as bikes get. Any thoughts? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-08-28 Thread Tim Gavin
I'm very interested in getting a fat bike before this winter, so I'd
definitely participate in a demo.  Sounds fun!


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
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 Been chatting with some friends, and I think it might be fun to have a
 fatbike demo on one of the days. Fat bikes have nothing to do with
 Rivendell, but they are about as country as bikes get. Any thoughts?

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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-08-01 Thread Marc Irwin


I have reserved campsite #60 on the north loop of Lebanon Hills campground 
for 26-28.  It's non electric and another tent and vehicle is permitted if 
somebody would like to share.  It's nearest to the showerhouse.
Send a PM if you would like to share.
 
Marc

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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-08-01 Thread Marc Irwin
This campsite is now filled.  When I left the website it looked like the 
entire north loop was open for this weekend so far.

On Friday, August 1, 2014 12:20:05 PM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote:



 I have reserved campsite #60 on the north loop of Lebanon Hills campground 
 for 26-28.  It's non electric and another tent and vehicle is permitted if 
 somebody would like to share.  It's nearest to the showerhouse.
 Send a PM if you would like to share.
  
 Marc


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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-08-01 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
All rallying and riding will be centered at Hiawatha Cyclery, 4313 E 54th 
St, Minneapolis, MN 55417. It's inside the corner formed by the junction of 
Highways 55 and 62 in South Minneapolis. There is plenty of free parking on 
adjacent residential streets.

HC is just a few blocks from two different light rail stations (50th 
Street, and VA Medical Center), which means convenience from any lodging 
located near downtown Minneapolis, MSP airport, or Mall of America. 
Minneapolis is arguably the most bike-accommodated city in the USA, so 
you'll have no problem pedaling from one side of town to the other on 
high-quality bicycle infrastructure. Downtown Saint Paul is also a 
reasonable option.

Marc's campsite at Lebanon Hills is roughly 17 bike-able miles away.



On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:34:34 PM UTC-5, Kevin M wrote:

 If we're looking for lodging, where can be considered ground zero for 
 the rally and rides?


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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-08-01 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Also, I'd like to know who's coming. Please email me offlist to let me know 
who you are, and where you're traveling from. 

On Friday, August 1, 2014 3:53:34 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 All rallying and riding will be centered at Hiawatha Cyclery, 4313 E 54th 
 St, Minneapolis, MN 55417. It's inside the corner formed by the junction of 
 Highways 55 and 62 in South Minneapolis. There is plenty of free parking on 
 adjacent residential streets.

 HC is just a few blocks from two different light rail stations (50th 
 Street, and VA Medical Center), which means convenience from any lodging 
 located near downtown Minneapolis, MSP airport, or Mall of America. 
 Minneapolis is arguably the most bike-accommodated city in the USA, so 
 you'll have no problem pedaling from one side of town to the other on 
 high-quality bicycle infrastructure. Downtown Saint Paul is also a 
 reasonable option.

 Marc's campsite at Lebanon Hills is roughly 17 bike-able miles away.



 On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:34:34 PM UTC-5, Kevin M wrote:

 If we're looking for lodging, where can be considered ground zero for 
 the rally and rides?



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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-07-30 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
You need not own or ride a Rivendell to participate.

You're welcome to bring family, kids, etc. Some of the rides might be beyond 
the capability of a small child, though.

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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-07-30 Thread Kevin M
If we're looking for lodging, where can be considered ground zero for the 
rally and rides?

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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-07-25 Thread Kevin M
Would I be the only guy on a non-Riv country bike? I'm assuming this is a 
family friendly type of thing if the wife and little one tagged along? 

Kevin 
in Chicago

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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-07-25 Thread Eric Platt
Considering Jim Thill does not presently own a Rivendell, I think you'll be
just fine.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Kevin M kpmulc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Would I be the only guy on a non-Riv country bike? I'm assuming this is a
 family friendly type of thing if the wife and little one tagged along?

 Kevin
 in Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-07-24 Thread Marc Irwin
Jim, 
 I posted the dates of the ride to the Chainlink Forum in Chicago with a 
link to this thread.

Marc

On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:13:29 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:


 http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2014/07/minneapolis-country-bike-rally.html

 On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:08:11 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
 wrote:

 I'm hoping to offer rides that hit off-road and on-road cycling 
 attractions. So ideally you all bring bikes with bigger tires. 



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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-07-23 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2014/07/minneapolis-country-bike-rally.html

On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:08:11 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
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 I'm hoping to offer rides that hit off-road and on-road cycling 
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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-07-22 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Evening of Friday, Sept 26, we will have a meet and greet party at Hiawatha 
Cyclery. HC is in South Minneapolis near the 50th Street and VA Medical Center 
LRT stations. The LRT will be convenient for those coming from the airport or 
staying downtown or near Mall of America.

On Saturday and Sunday I will lead day rides of 50ish miles. I will offer 
shorter options if needed.

Lots of hotels nearby. Camping is available about 18 miles from HC at Lebanon 
Hills, and 32 miles away (all bike trails) at Lake Auburn.

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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-07-22 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I'm hoping to offer rides that hit off-road and on-road cycling attractions. So 
ideally you all bring bikes with bigger tires. 

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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-07-19 Thread Michael Hechmer
Jim, Pat and I are still planning on traveling to Minn. in Sept. Camping 
sounds good, unless the weather turns very chilly.  Can you offer any 
update on the plans?

Michael

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:00:20 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 Starting a new thread to discuss the Riv/country bike rally to be held in 
 the Twin Cities September 26-28, 2014.

 I envision everybody coming in to town on Friday the 26th for a 
 meet-and-greet at Hiawatha Cyclery, then spending the next two days riding 
 around the twin cities. Hiawatha Cyclery, which is in south Minneapolis 
 near the airport and light rail line, will be the center of the action. 
 That's the extent of the itinerary at this point.

 If you're coming from out of town, I'd be happy to receive your bike and 
 ship it back to you (I only use UPS). Depending on my level of involvement, 
 I may charge you for assembly/disassembly/packing labor, and UPS shipping 
 charges. No charge if you just use HC as a drop-off and pick-up point for 
 your bike, and you arrange your own shipping.

 You're on your own for lodging, but I'd be happy to offer opinions on 
 whether your lodging choice is sensible in terms of distance, bike 
 friendliness, etc. I am tentatively planning to offer camping in my back 
 yard. I hope other local Riv types will offer spare beds, couches, floors, 
 backyards, and other forms of hospitality to our visitors.

 I am happy to answer your questions. Please keep in mind that we have 8 
 months to nail down the details (and 8 months for plans to change). If 
 you're enthusiastic now in January, please try to pace yourself so you 
 still have some enthusiasm left in September. There's a significant risk of 
 over-committing to summer plans during this gloomy time of year. Past 
 experience suggests that if you and I spend several hours emailing back and 
 forth, answering every question you can think of in January, there's an 
 approximately 0% chance of you being able to make the trip in September. If 
 you think you're actually going to come, then please ask your questions. If 
 you're on the fence - that's cool, you have plenty of time to decide - 
 please keep the correspondence to a minimum until you're more committed to 
 coming.



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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-07-19 Thread Marc Irwin


It's on my calendar as well, camping always sounds  good to me!

Marc

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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-01-15 Thread Matthew J
Definitely.  All you need to do on Amtrak is remove the pedals and turn the 
bar.  Could not be easier.  Far more pleasant than driving. 

On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 12:18:30 AM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:

 Amtrak is a great way to travel to Minneapolis from Chicago with a bike.

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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-01-15 Thread hsmitham
What Tom Goodmann said. Making my plans and keeping my enthusiasm super low 
for now.

~Hugh

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 1:00:20 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 Starting a new thread to discuss the Riv/country bike rally to be held in 
 the Twin Cities September 26-28, 2014.

 I envision everybody coming in to town on Friday the 26th for a 
 meet-and-greet at Hiawatha Cyclery, then spending the next two days riding 
 around the twin cities. Hiawatha Cyclery, which is in south Minneapolis 
 near the airport and light rail line, will be the center of the action. 
 That's the extent of the itinerary at this point.

 If you're coming from out of town, I'd be happy to receive your bike and 
 ship it back to you (I only use UPS). Depending on my level of involvement, 
 I may charge you for assembly/disassembly/packing labor, and UPS shipping 
 charges. No charge if you just use HC as a drop-off and pick-up point for 
 your bike, and you arrange your own shipping.

 You're on your own for lodging, but I'd be happy to offer opinions on 
 whether your lodging choice is sensible in terms of distance, bike 
 friendliness, etc. I am tentatively planning to offer camping in my back 
 yard. I hope other local Riv types will offer spare beds, couches, floors, 
 backyards, and other forms of hospitality to our visitors.

 I am happy to answer your questions. Please keep in mind that we have 8 
 months to nail down the details (and 8 months for plans to change). If 
 you're enthusiastic now in January, please try to pace yourself so you 
 still have some enthusiasm left in September. There's a significant risk of 
 over-committing to summer plans during this gloomy time of year. Past 
 experience suggests that if you and I spend several hours emailing back and 
 forth, answering every question you can think of in January, there's an 
 approximately 0% chance of you being able to make the trip in September. If 
 you think you're actually going to come, then please ask your questions. If 
 you're on the fence - that's cool, you have plenty of time to decide - 
 please keep the correspondence to a minimum until you're more committed to 
 coming.



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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-01-15 Thread Kevin Mulcahy
Although I'm Riv-less, I do have a number of country bikes. I'd like to add 
another enthusiastic voice from Chicago. I'd be down to carpool or Amtrack. 

-Kevin

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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-01-15 Thread Tony McG
Sounds like a good time, Jim.  Looking forward to riding with the Twin 
Cities folks again.



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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-01-14 Thread Tom Goodmann
At this early point, then, Jim, a simple Thanks! for putting the idea out 
there.  Momentum will build, no doubt.  Tom (Miami, for which you don't 
want to know the forecast today)

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:00:20 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 Starting a new thread to discuss the Riv/country bike rally to be held in 
 the Twin Cities September 26-28, 2014.

 I envision everybody coming in to town on Friday the 26th for a 
 meet-and-greet at Hiawatha Cyclery, then spending the next two days riding 
 around the twin cities. Hiawatha Cyclery, which is in south Minneapolis 
 near the airport and light rail line, will be the center of the action. 
 That's the extent of the itinerary at this point.

 If you're coming from out of town, I'd be happy to receive your bike and 
 ship it back to you (I only use UPS). Depending on my level of involvement, 
 I may charge you for assembly/disassembly/packing labor, and UPS shipping 
 charges. No charge if you just use HC as a drop-off and pick-up point for 
 your bike, and you arrange your own shipping.

 You're on your own for lodging, but I'd be happy to offer opinions on 
 whether your lodging choice is sensible in terms of distance, bike 
 friendliness, etc. I am tentatively planning to offer camping in my back 
 yard. I hope other local Riv types will offer spare beds, couches, floors, 
 backyards, and other forms of hospitality to our visitors.

 I am happy to answer your questions. Please keep in mind that we have 8 
 months to nail down the details (and 8 months for plans to change). If 
 you're enthusiastic now in January, please try to pace yourself so you 
 still have some enthusiasm left in September. There's a significant risk of 
 over-committing to summer plans during this gloomy time of year. Past 
 experience suggests that if you and I spend several hours emailing back and 
 forth, answering every question you can think of in January, there's an 
 approximately 0% chance of you being able to make the trip in September. If 
 you think you're actually going to come, then please ask your questions. If 
 you're on the fence - that's cool, you have plenty of time to decide - 
 please keep the correspondence to a minimum until you're more committed to 
 coming.



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