Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-09 Thread David Hays
Peter,
Nice work. The bikes look great.
I see you're running center pull brakes instead of the Tektro side pulls. Do 
you think that's giving you more clearance? Would I be well off to switch the 
brakes before adding the fenders?
David


On May 8, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:

 Re: 52mm Zeppelins over Honjos on a Homer. Took some fiddling but it is 
 possible, again some fiddling could mean 1 hour, could mean 1 day depending 
 on your handiness, def not an easy setup job but it comes out looking nice. 
 See picture in my Flikr feed.
  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/7100748813/
 
 
 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:56 PM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to a 
 Homer over 42mm Hetres?
 Thanks,
 David
 
 
 On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Agreed.  Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value.  I love the Honjo's but 
 have never gotten over the big price difference myself.
 
 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
 Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly 
 thicker.  The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product.  
 
 On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:
 This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need 
 some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 
 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at 
 either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price 
 of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there 
 really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there 
 another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-09 Thread Peter Morgano
I did start with the Tektro silvers and found the center pulls gave me a
bit more room with the fenders. Most importantly they didn't squeeze the
fenders when I braked like the silvers did.
On May 9, 2013 2:18 AM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote:

 Peter,
 Nice work. The bikes look great.
 I see you're running center pull brakes instead of the Tektro side pulls.
 Do you think that's giving you more clearance? Would I be well off to
 switch the brakes before adding the fenders?
 David


 On May 8, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:

 Re: 52mm Zeppelins over Honjos on a Homer. Took some fiddling but it is
 possible, again some fiddling could mean 1 hour, could mean 1 day depending
 on your handiness, def not an easy setup job but it comes out looking nice.
 See picture in my Flikr feed.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/7100748813/


 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:56 PM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to
 a Homer over 42mm Hetres?
 Thanks,
 David


 On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Agreed.  Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value.  I love the Honjo's
 but have never gotten over the big price difference myself.

 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:

 Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are
 slightly thicker.  The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product.

 On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:

 This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I
 need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit
 over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm
 looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over
 twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid
 disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and
 Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks,
 Ojiisan


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Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-09 Thread David Hays
Thank you, Peter.
Time to order up, I guess.
David



On May 9, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:

 I did start with the Tektro silvers and found the center pulls gave me a 
 bit more room with the fenders. Most importantly they didn't squeeze the 
 fenders when I braked like the silvers did.
 
 On May 9, 2013 2:18 AM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote:
 Peter,
 Nice work. The bikes look great.
 I see you're running center pull brakes instead of the Tektro side pulls. Do 
 you think that's giving you more clearance? Would I be well off to switch the 
 brakes before adding the fenders?
 David
 
 
 On May 8, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Re: 52mm Zeppelins over Honjos on a Homer. Took some fiddling but it is 
 possible, again some fiddling could mean 1 hour, could mean 1 day depending 
 on your handiness, def not an easy setup job but it comes out looking nice. 
 See picture in my Flikr feed.
  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/7100748813/
 
 
 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:56 PM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to a 
 Homer over 42mm Hetres?
 Thanks,
 David
 
 
 On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Agreed.  Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value.  I love the Honjo's 
 but have never gotten over the big price difference myself.
 
 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
 Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are 
 slightly thicker.  The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product.  
 
 On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:
 This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need 
 some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 
 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at 
 either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price 
 of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there 
 really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there 
 another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-09 Thread Peter Morgano
I have a set of the Mod 750s in my much too large bin in the basement, free
for the price of shipping, 10 bucks I figure. They don't have pads though,
I recycled them onto another ride. Let me know offlist.


On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:06 AM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you, Peter.
 Time to order up, I guess.
 David



 On May 9, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:

 I did start with the Tektro silvers and found the center pulls gave me a
 bit more room with the fenders. Most importantly they didn't squeeze the
 fenders when I braked like the silvers did.
 On May 9, 2013 2:18 AM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote:

 Peter,
 Nice work. The bikes look great.
 I see you're running center pull brakes instead of the Tektro side pulls.
 Do you think that's giving you more clearance? Would I be well off to
 switch the brakes before adding the fenders?
 David


 On May 8, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Re: 52mm Zeppelins over Honjos on a Homer. Took some fiddling but it is
 possible, again some fiddling could mean 1 hour, could mean 1 day depending
 on your handiness, def not an easy setup job but it comes out looking nice.
 See picture in my Flikr feed.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/7100748813/


 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:56 PM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to
 a Homer over 42mm Hetres?
 Thanks,
 David


 On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Agreed.  Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value.  I love the Honjo's
 but have never gotten over the big price difference myself.

 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:

 Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are
 slightly thicker.  The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product.

 On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:

 This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I
 need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit
 over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm
 looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over
 twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid
 disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO 
 and
 Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks,
 Ojiisan


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[RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread David Spranger
Never had Honjo but I have used VO fenders on many bikes. The quality has 
never let me down. They are easily as good (better in many aspects) as the 
Berthoud fenders I have on one bike.

David
Charlotte, NC

On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 3:43:38 PM UTC-4, Ojiisan wrote:

 This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need 
 some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 
 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at 
 either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the 
 price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but 
 is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is 
 there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan

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[RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Ron Mc
Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are 
slightly thicker.  The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product.  

On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:

 This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need 
 some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 
 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at 
 either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the 
 price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but 
 is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is 
 there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan

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[RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Minh
Agreed.  Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value.  I love the Honjo's 
but have never gotten over the big price difference myself.

On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:

 Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are 
 slightly thicker.  The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product.  

 On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:

 This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need 
 some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 
 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at 
 either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the 
 price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but 
 is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is 
 there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan



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Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Alex Zeibot
To add, VO fenders are pre-drilled as contrasted to the Honjos that gives
me more convenience and headache free installation.  Can't speak for
Berthouds as I never had them.


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Agreed.  Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value.  I love the Honjo's
 but have never gotten over the big price difference myself.


 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:

 Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are
 slightly thicker.  The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product.

 On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:

 This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I
 need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit
 over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm
 looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over
 twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid
 disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and
 Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks,
 Ojiisan

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Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Morgano
I have had both Honjos and VO's. The Velo Orange are a great deal
comparatively speaking and like Alex said come pre-drilled. I know it has
been said that some VO fenders only have one Daruma attachment on the rear
but the 52mm Zeppelins def have two just like Honjos. Back in the day VO
didn't have a hammered option so I got the Honjos but VO has expanded their
collection significantly and I cant see spending the extra on Honjos unless
you need a size VO doesn't offer.


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Alex Zeibot veloban...@gmail.com wrote:

 To add, VO fenders are pre-drilled as contrasted to the Honjos that gives
 me more convenience and headache free installation.  Can't speak for
 Berthouds as I never had them.


 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Agreed.  Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value.  I love the Honjo's
 but have never gotten over the big price difference myself.


 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:

 Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are
 slightly thicker.  The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product.

 On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:

 This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I
 need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit
 over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm
 looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over
 twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid
 disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and
 Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks,
 Ojiisan

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Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread David Hays
Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to a 
Homer over 42mm Hetres?
Thanks,
David


On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Agreed.  Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value.  I love the Honjo's but 
 have never gotten over the big price difference myself.
 
 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
 Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly 
 thicker.  The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product.  
 
 On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:
 This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need 
 some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c 
 tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO 
 fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. 
 I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that 
 much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender 
 make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan
 
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[RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Ojiisan
Thanks folks, This makes me less suspicious about VO fenders and unless I 
get some bad feed back or dire warning about VO fenders I'm sorta leaning 
toward them... Here are a few other thoughts I've had re. fenders: I like 
the look of the smooth fenders but now I'm thinking the hammered texture 
will camouflage minor dings and dents if and when they happen. Never having 
fenders before, are smooth aluminum fenders easily dented? Are hammered, 
fluted and smooth simply a style or look or are there some practical or 
structural reasons for smooth, fluted and hammered fenders?  Ojii

On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 12:43:38 PM UTC-7, Ojiisan wrote:

 This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need 
 some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 
 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at 
 either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the 
 price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but 
 is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is 
 there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan

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Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Morgano
Re: 52mm Zeppelins over Honjos on a Homer. Took some fiddling but it is
possible, again some fiddling could mean 1 hour, could mean 1 day depending
on your handiness, def not an easy setup job but it comes out looking nice.
See picture in my Flikr feed.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/7100748813/


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:56 PM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to a
 Homer over 42mm Hetres?
 Thanks,
 David


 On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Agreed.  Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value.  I love the Honjo's
 but have never gotten over the big price difference myself.

 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:

 Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are
 slightly thicker.  The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product.

 On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:

 This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I
 need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit
 over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm
 looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over
 twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid
 disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and
 Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks,
 Ojiisan


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RE: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
VO even has a 58mm version of its 650B fenders now.  Smooth only, though.

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Morgano
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 4:17 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

I have had both Honjos and VO's. The Velo Orange are a great deal comparatively 
speaking and like Alex said come pre-drilled. I know it has been said that some 
VO fenders only have one Daruma attachment on the rear but the 52mm Zeppelins 
def have two just like Honjos. Back in the day VO didn't have a hammered option 
so I got the Honjos but VO has expanded their collection significantly and I 
cant see spending the extra on Honjos unless you need a size VO doesn't offer.

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Alex Zeibot 
veloban...@gmail.commailto:veloban...@gmail.com wrote:
To add, VO fenders are pre-drilled as contrasted to the Honjos that gives me 
more convenience and headache free installation.  Can't speak for Berthouds as 
I never had them.

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Minh 
mgiangs...@gmail.commailto:mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:
Agreed.  Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value.  I love the Honjo's but 
have never gotten over the big price difference myself.


On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly 
thicker.  The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product.

On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:
This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some 
fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. 
I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or 
Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather 
pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a 
difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might 
consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan
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Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Minh
on the VO daruma at the fender stay issue, i think i saw back that VO 
started offering dual daruma.  but to be honest i've been happy with my 
single daruma, and the berthoud (which use two affixing points) is more 
secure but not hugely so.  


On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 4:34:41 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:

  VO even has a 58mm version of its 650B fenders now.  Smooth only, though.

  

 *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Peter Morgano
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 08, 2013 4:17 PM
 *To:* rbw-owners-bunch
 *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

  
  
 I have had both Honjos and VO's. The Velo Orange are a great deal 
 comparatively speaking and like Alex said come pre-drilled. I know it has 
 been said that some VO fenders only have one Daruma attachment on the rear 
 but the 52mm Zeppelins def have two just like Honjos. Back in the day VO 
 didn't have a hammered option so I got the Honjos but VO has expanded their 
 collection significantly and I cant see spending the extra on Honjos unless 
 you need a size VO doesn't offer. 
  
  
  
 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Alex Zeibot velob...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote:
  
 To add, VO fenders are pre-drilled as contrasted to the Honjos that gives 
 me more convenience and headache free installation.  Can't speak for 
 Berthouds as I never had them.
   
  
  
 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Minh mgian...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Agreed.  Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value.  I love the Honjo's 
 but have never gotten over the big price difference myself.
  


 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:

 Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are 
 slightly thicker.  The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product.  

 On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:

 This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need 
 some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 
 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at 
 either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price 
 of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there 
 really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there 
 another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan

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[RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Fredrickson


On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:24:59 AM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:

 Thanks folks, This makes me less suspicious about VO fenders and unless I 
 get some bad feed back or dire warning about VO fenders I'm sorta leaning 
 toward them... Here are a few other thoughts I've had re. fenders: I like 
 the look of the smooth fenders but now I'm thinking the hammered texture 
 will camouflage minor dings and dents if and when they happen. Never having 
 fenders before, are smooth aluminum fenders easily dented? Are hammered, 
 fluted and smooth simply a style or look or are there some practical or 
 structural reasons for smooth, fluted and hammered fenders?  Ojii


My smooth, satin finish VOs got pretty scratched up. I think your idea 
regarding the hammered fenders hiding such imperfections is a smart one. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Alex Zeibot
Hi David,
Yes, I did have the experience with installing Zeppelins for Hetres on 650b
specific bike.  It took me some time like Peter pointed out but it came out
perfectly, beyond my expectations.  You should not have any issues with the
installation as long as you have plenty time on your hands as well the
patience.
Here are the pics to prove:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62147285@N02/sets/72157633451429920/


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:56 PM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to a
 Homer over 42mm Hetres?
 Thanks,
 David


 On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Agreed.  Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value.  I love the Honjo's
 but have never gotten over the big price difference myself.

 On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:

 Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are
 slightly thicker.  The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product.

 On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:

 This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I
 need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit
 over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm
 looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over
 twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid
 disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and
 Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks,
 Ojiisan


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Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 16:25 -0500, Alex Zeibot wrote:
 Hi David,
 Yes, I did have the experience with installing Zeppelins for Hetres on
 650b specific bike.  It took me some time like Peter pointed out but
 it came out perfectly, beyond my expectations.  You should not have
 any issues with the installation as long as you have plenty time on
 your hands as well the patience.
 Here are the pics to
 prove: http://www.flickr.com/photos/62147285@N02/sets/72157633451429920/
 


Marvelous job.



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Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Alex Zeibot
Thanks Steve.
I just realized that I had somewhat of an advantage because the Saluki has
canti brakes that gave me more room to work around, less error prone.
 Nevertheless the job can be done with side pull brakes given more time.
 Again, perfection is the virtue of patience.



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 On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 16:25 -0500, Alex Zeibot wrote:
  Hi David,
  Yes, I did have the experience with installing Zeppelins for Hetres on
  650b specific bike.  It took me some time like Peter pointed out but
  it came out perfectly, beyond my expectations.  You should not have
  any issues with the installation as long as you have plenty time on
  your hands as well the patience.
  Here are the pics to
  prove: http://www.flickr.com/photos/62147285@N02/sets/72157633451429920/
 


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Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed

2013-05-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 20:30 -0500, Alex Zeibot wrote:
 Thanks Steve.
 I just realized that I had somewhat of an advantage because the Saluki
 has canti brakes that gave me more room to work around, less error
 prone.  Nevertheless the job can be done with side pull brakes given
 more time.  Again, perfection is the virtue of patience.

And patience is an absolute requirement for installing metal fenders.
It's a job that simply cannot be rushed.  But if care is taken, the
results -- as you have demonstrated -- can be quite lovely.



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