Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
Peter, Nice work. The bikes look great. I see you're running center pull brakes instead of the Tektro side pulls. Do you think that's giving you more clearance? Would I be well off to switch the brakes before adding the fenders? David On May 8, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Re: 52mm Zeppelins over Honjos on a Homer. Took some fiddling but it is possible, again some fiddling could mean 1 hour, could mean 1 day depending on your handiness, def not an easy setup job but it comes out looking nice. See picture in my Flikr feed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/7100748813/ On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:56 PM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote: Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to a Homer over 42mm Hetres? Thanks, David On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's but have never gotten over the big price difference myself. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly thicker. The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
I did start with the Tektro silvers and found the center pulls gave me a bit more room with the fenders. Most importantly they didn't squeeze the fenders when I braked like the silvers did. On May 9, 2013 2:18 AM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote: Peter, Nice work. The bikes look great. I see you're running center pull brakes instead of the Tektro side pulls. Do you think that's giving you more clearance? Would I be well off to switch the brakes before adding the fenders? David On May 8, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Re: 52mm Zeppelins over Honjos on a Homer. Took some fiddling but it is possible, again some fiddling could mean 1 hour, could mean 1 day depending on your handiness, def not an easy setup job but it comes out looking nice. See picture in my Flikr feed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/7100748813/ On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:56 PM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote: Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to a Homer over 42mm Hetres? Thanks, David On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's but have never gotten over the big price difference myself. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly thicker. The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
Thank you, Peter. Time to order up, I guess. David On May 9, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I did start with the Tektro silvers and found the center pulls gave me a bit more room with the fenders. Most importantly they didn't squeeze the fenders when I braked like the silvers did. On May 9, 2013 2:18 AM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote: Peter, Nice work. The bikes look great. I see you're running center pull brakes instead of the Tektro side pulls. Do you think that's giving you more clearance? Would I be well off to switch the brakes before adding the fenders? David On May 8, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Re: 52mm Zeppelins over Honjos on a Homer. Took some fiddling but it is possible, again some fiddling could mean 1 hour, could mean 1 day depending on your handiness, def not an easy setup job but it comes out looking nice. See picture in my Flikr feed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/7100748813/ On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:56 PM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote: Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to a Homer over 42mm Hetres? Thanks, David On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's but have never gotten over the big price difference myself. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly thicker. The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
I have a set of the Mod 750s in my much too large bin in the basement, free for the price of shipping, 10 bucks I figure. They don't have pads though, I recycled them onto another ride. Let me know offlist. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:06 AM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Peter. Time to order up, I guess. David On May 9, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I did start with the Tektro silvers and found the center pulls gave me a bit more room with the fenders. Most importantly they didn't squeeze the fenders when I braked like the silvers did. On May 9, 2013 2:18 AM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote: Peter, Nice work. The bikes look great. I see you're running center pull brakes instead of the Tektro side pulls. Do you think that's giving you more clearance? Would I be well off to switch the brakes before adding the fenders? David On May 8, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Re: 52mm Zeppelins over Honjos on a Homer. Took some fiddling but it is possible, again some fiddling could mean 1 hour, could mean 1 day depending on your handiness, def not an easy setup job but it comes out looking nice. See picture in my Flikr feed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/7100748813/ On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:56 PM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote: Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to a Homer over 42mm Hetres? Thanks, David On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's but have never gotten over the big price difference myself. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly thicker. The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
[RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
Never had Honjo but I have used VO fenders on many bikes. The quality has never let me down. They are easily as good (better in many aspects) as the Berthoud fenders I have on one bike. David Charlotte, NC On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 3:43:38 PM UTC-4, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly thicker. The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's but have never gotten over the big price difference myself. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly thicker. The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
To add, VO fenders are pre-drilled as contrasted to the Honjos that gives me more convenience and headache free installation. Can't speak for Berthouds as I never had them. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's but have never gotten over the big price difference myself. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly thicker. The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
I have had both Honjos and VO's. The Velo Orange are a great deal comparatively speaking and like Alex said come pre-drilled. I know it has been said that some VO fenders only have one Daruma attachment on the rear but the 52mm Zeppelins def have two just like Honjos. Back in the day VO didn't have a hammered option so I got the Honjos but VO has expanded their collection significantly and I cant see spending the extra on Honjos unless you need a size VO doesn't offer. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Alex Zeibot veloban...@gmail.com wrote: To add, VO fenders are pre-drilled as contrasted to the Honjos that gives me more convenience and headache free installation. Can't speak for Berthouds as I never had them. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's but have never gotten over the big price difference myself. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly thicker. The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to a Homer over 42mm Hetres? Thanks, David On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's but have never gotten over the big price difference myself. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly thicker. The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
Thanks folks, This makes me less suspicious about VO fenders and unless I get some bad feed back or dire warning about VO fenders I'm sorta leaning toward them... Here are a few other thoughts I've had re. fenders: I like the look of the smooth fenders but now I'm thinking the hammered texture will camouflage minor dings and dents if and when they happen. Never having fenders before, are smooth aluminum fenders easily dented? Are hammered, fluted and smooth simply a style or look or are there some practical or structural reasons for smooth, fluted and hammered fenders? Ojii On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 12:43:38 PM UTC-7, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
Re: 52mm Zeppelins over Honjos on a Homer. Took some fiddling but it is possible, again some fiddling could mean 1 hour, could mean 1 day depending on your handiness, def not an easy setup job but it comes out looking nice. See picture in my Flikr feed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/7100748813/ On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:56 PM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote: Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to a Homer over 42mm Hetres? Thanks, David On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's but have never gotten over the big price difference myself. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly thicker. The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
VO even has a 58mm version of its 650B fenders now. Smooth only, though. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Morgano Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 4:17 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed I have had both Honjos and VO's. The Velo Orange are a great deal comparatively speaking and like Alex said come pre-drilled. I know it has been said that some VO fenders only have one Daruma attachment on the rear but the 52mm Zeppelins def have two just like Honjos. Back in the day VO didn't have a hammered option so I got the Honjos but VO has expanded their collection significantly and I cant see spending the extra on Honjos unless you need a size VO doesn't offer. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Alex Zeibot veloban...@gmail.commailto:veloban...@gmail.com wrote: To add, VO fenders are pre-drilled as contrasted to the Honjos that gives me more convenience and headache free installation. Can't speak for Berthouds as I never had them. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.commailto:mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's but have never gotten over the big price difference myself. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly thicker. The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners
Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
on the VO daruma at the fender stay issue, i think i saw back that VO started offering dual daruma. but to be honest i've been happy with my single daruma, and the berthoud (which use two affixing points) is more secure but not hugely so. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 4:34:41 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: VO even has a 58mm version of its 650B fenders now. Smooth only, though. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Peter Morgano *Sent:* Wednesday, May 08, 2013 4:17 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed I have had both Honjos and VO's. The Velo Orange are a great deal comparatively speaking and like Alex said come pre-drilled. I know it has been said that some VO fenders only have one Daruma attachment on the rear but the 52mm Zeppelins def have two just like Honjos. Back in the day VO didn't have a hammered option so I got the Honjos but VO has expanded their collection significantly and I cant see spending the extra on Honjos unless you need a size VO doesn't offer. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Alex Zeibot velob...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: To add, VO fenders are pre-drilled as contrasted to the Honjos that gives me more convenience and headache free installation. Can't speak for Berthouds as I never had them. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Minh mgian...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's but have never gotten over the big price difference myself. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly thicker. The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately
[RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:24:59 AM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: Thanks folks, This makes me less suspicious about VO fenders and unless I get some bad feed back or dire warning about VO fenders I'm sorta leaning toward them... Here are a few other thoughts I've had re. fenders: I like the look of the smooth fenders but now I'm thinking the hammered texture will camouflage minor dings and dents if and when they happen. Never having fenders before, are smooth aluminum fenders easily dented? Are hammered, fluted and smooth simply a style or look or are there some practical or structural reasons for smooth, fluted and hammered fenders? Ojii My smooth, satin finish VOs got pretty scratched up. I think your idea regarding the hammered fenders hiding such imperfections is a smart one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
Hi David, Yes, I did have the experience with installing Zeppelins for Hetres on 650b specific bike. It took me some time like Peter pointed out but it came out perfectly, beyond my expectations. You should not have any issues with the installation as long as you have plenty time on your hands as well the patience. Here are the pics to prove: http://www.flickr.com/photos/62147285@N02/sets/72157633451429920/ On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:56 PM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote: Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to a Homer over 42mm Hetres? Thanks, David On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's but have never gotten over the big price difference myself. On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are slightly thicker. The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote: This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over 700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price of the VOs. I'd rather pay for quality to avoid disappointment but is there really that much of a difference between VO and Honjo fenders? Is there another fender make I might consider? Many thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 16:25 -0500, Alex Zeibot wrote: Hi David, Yes, I did have the experience with installing Zeppelins for Hetres on 650b specific bike. It took me some time like Peter pointed out but it came out perfectly, beyond my expectations. You should not have any issues with the installation as long as you have plenty time on your hands as well the patience. Here are the pics to prove: http://www.flickr.com/photos/62147285@N02/sets/72157633451429920/ Marvelous job. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
Thanks Steve. I just realized that I had somewhat of an advantage because the Saluki has canti brakes that gave me more room to work around, less error prone. Nevertheless the job can be done with side pull brakes given more time. Again, perfection is the virtue of patience. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 16:25 -0500, Alex Zeibot wrote: Hi David, Yes, I did have the experience with installing Zeppelins for Hetres on 650b specific bike. It took me some time like Peter pointed out but it came out perfectly, beyond my expectations. You should not have any issues with the installation as long as you have plenty time on your hands as well the patience. Here are the pics to prove: http://www.flickr.com/photos/62147285@N02/sets/72157633451429920/ Marvelous job. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: More fender advice needed
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 20:30 -0500, Alex Zeibot wrote: Thanks Steve. I just realized that I had somewhat of an advantage because the Saluki has canti brakes that gave me more room to work around, less error prone. Nevertheless the job can be done with side pull brakes given more time. Again, perfection is the virtue of patience. And patience is an absolute requirement for installing metal fenders. It's a job that simply cannot be rushed. But if care is taken, the results -- as you have demonstrated -- can be quite lovely. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.