Re: [RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
Tom, I haven't used anything to stop it from rolling, I just look for a place where its not an issue. I feel kind of lost with my unloaded bikes when I have to lay them down, just seems wrong. Steve On Monday, March 23, 2015, Tom Harrop twhar...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Steve, that certainly looks like it's doing the job! That's what I meant, although I don't think that particular one would work with my Bombadil: https://flic.kr/p/boK38V. Do you put a toe strap on the brake or something to stop the front wheel rolling? Part of the problem is that in my part of the world (south of France) there are rarely bike racks that I can lean my bike against to lock. Best case is the small hoops that are intended to hold the rear tyre. My tyres don't fit in those, so I have to park next to them rather than in them, which means I think I will have to persist with some sort of kickstand... hmm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com');. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Steven Sweedler Plymouth, New Hampshire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
best thing about a double kickstand is when you have to deal with a flat and don't have to flip the bike over On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 3:24:37 PM UTC-5, Steven Sweedler wrote: Tom, I haven't used anything to stop it from rolling, I just look for a place where its not an issue. I feel kind of lost with my unloaded bikes when I have to lay them down, just seems wrong. Steve On Monday, March 23, 2015, Tom Harrop twha...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thanks Steve, that certainly looks like it's doing the job! That's what I meant, although I don't think that particular one would work with my Bombadil: https://flic.kr/p/boK38V. Do you put a toe strap on the brake or something to stop the front wheel rolling? Part of the problem is that in my part of the world (south of France) there are rarely bike racks that I can lean my bike against to lock. Best case is the small hoops that are intended to hold the rear tyre. My tyres don't fit in those, so I have to park next to them rather than in them, which means I think I will have to persist with some sort of kickstand... hmm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Steven Sweedler Plymouth, New Hampshire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
*A rear mount kickstand looks like it would work on your rear triangle using the front ustay(?)* *clay* On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 11:48:59 AM UTC-7, Tom Harrop wrote: Thanks Steve, that certainly looks like it's doing the job! That's what I meant, although I don't think that particular one would work with my Bombadil: https://flic.kr/p/boK38V. Do you put a toe strap on the brake or something to stop the front wheel rolling? Part of the problem is that in my part of the world (south of France) there are rarely bike racks that I can lean my bike against to lock. Best case is the small hoops that are intended to hold the rear tyre. My tyres don't fit in those, so I have to park next to them rather than in them, which means I think I will have to persist with some sort of kickstand... hmm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
Hi Clay, Good point, I hadn't thought of that. I wonder if I'd have a problem with heel clearance. I'm thinking about trying one of these Hebie models (http://www.hebie.de/en/parking/rear-stands/ax/618/) that mounts to the axle and rack eyelet. Not sure if it's a good idea or not to have the bike held up by the QR axle... Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
None of my bikes have kickstand plates and need the clamps - I gorilla-glue closed-cell foam to the bottom plate, and use the longer bolt and plastic yokes on top. I come back and tighten it a little bit every day until the plastic stops creeping, and it's done for good until I want to take it off. On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 9:13:24 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I came to much the same conclusion regarding my kickstand (single leg). The bike is simply safer on the terrain I ride laying it down, especially considering when it is loaded. For those times when a kickstand would work, there is too much jouncing that loosens it and it's just not worth the bother for me (but then neither is a front derailer. Grin.). With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
I came to much the same conclusion regarding my kickstand (single leg). The bike is simply safer on the terrain I ride laying it down, especially considering when it is loaded. For those times when a kickstand would work, there is too much jouncing that loosens it and it's just not worth the bother for me (but then neither is a front derailer. Grin.). With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
So to report my results, Bill's idea of using a setscrew and loctite definitely improved matters but the stand still comes loose after a while. Seems like my bike is too big/heavy for a centre-mount kickstand, which is a shame. I like the convenience of having the kickstand to hold the bike steady while I lock up, but it's not worth the annoyance of the leg(s) rubbing the tyre. Has anyone tried the single-leg type that mounts at/near the rear dropout on the non-drive side? I used to see them a lot on touring bikes in Germany but never tried one... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
Thanks Steve, that certainly looks like it's doing the job! That's what I meant, although I don't think that particular one would work with my Bombadil: https://flic.kr/p/boK38V. Do you put a toe strap on the brake or something to stop the front wheel rolling? Part of the problem is that in my part of the world (south of France) there are rarely bike racks that I can lean my bike against to lock. Best case is the small hoops that are intended to hold the rear tyre. My tyres don't fit in those, so I have to park next to them rather than in them, which means I think I will have to persist with some sort of kickstand... hmm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
red is powerful stuff - the only place I use it is the rudder bracket on my sea kayak, and have well-compressed bellville spring washers below the bracket Green is what you use on slippy seatposts. On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 5:55:27 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: An anecdote about *red* loctite: Once I foolishly red-loctited a Dura Ace fixed cog onto an ENO hub. When I tried to take it off, I broke the chain whip. I then put the cog, wrapped in chain, into a bench vise and used the wheel as lever. I shattered the cog and slightly warped the hub's threads. (Didn't read the instructions about using heat to loosen the grip.) You get the point As for blue, I've used it successfully for slipping seatposts and seatpost cradles -- so it takes quite a bit of torque. On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Tom Harrop twha...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. The kickstand has a blind hole so no tasty metal sandwiches for me. I'll give locktite a go but I'm not terribly optimistic! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
Red loctite scares me;I don't have any of it around, all I use is blue On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 8:35:06 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: red is powerful stuff - the only place I use it is the rudder bracket on my sea kayak, and have well-compressed bellville spring washers below the bracket Green is what you use on slippy seatposts. On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 5:55:27 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: An anecdote about *red* loctite: Once I foolishly red-loctited a Dura Ace fixed cog onto an ENO hub. When I tried to take it off, I broke the chain whip. I then put the cog, wrapped in chain, into a bench vise and used the wheel as lever. I shattered the cog and slightly warped the hub's threads. (Didn't read the instructions about using heat to loosen the grip.) You get the point As for blue, I've used it successfully for slipping seatposts and seatpost cradles -- so it takes quite a bit of torque. On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Tom Harrop twha...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. The kickstand has a blind hole so no tasty metal sandwiches for me. I'll give locktite a go but I'm not terribly optimistic! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
Thanks everyone! Bill, that is a fantastic idea. I think those kickstand bolts are M10 though? (I'm not at home to check). Now I just have to work out what an M8/M10 setscrew is in French... I'm actually pretty impressed with the kickstand. I have 60 mm tyres, a triple crankset and a relatively narrow chainline (107 mm BB). The kickstand is super stable AND fails to interfere with tyres, chain, cranks or RD cable. Yeah, the blind hole is a bummer and I already shortened the bolt significantly, but I don't think a through bolt would work with the way it's designed. See pics https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ursus+jumbot=canonicaliax=1ia=images. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
Thanks for the suggestions. The kickstand has a blind hole so no tasty metal sandwiches for me. I'll give locktite a go but I'm not terribly optimistic! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
If the hole is blind, maybe find a long setscrew. If it's a M8 x 1.25, then something like this M8 setscrew http://www.fmwfasteners.com/products/Socket-Set-Screws-Cup-Point-DIN-916-CR3-Zinc?custcol_dia_metric_soc_set_screw=10custcol_len_metric_soc_set_screw=6gclid=CjwKEAiAi52mBRDkq5bX0vq1-RQSJAAq_7IGw0m-wiNhhQHlNDGjvwqiQ7JDYBlomNOPn8v02-XhmBoC5_7w_wcB#.VMgyNNLF_h4 Install that into the kickstand tight with blue loctite against the bottom of the blind hole. Then install your kickstand with a nylock nut, or two nuts, locked against one another. Or maybe just blue loctite what you already have. On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 2:40:09 PM UTC-8, Tom Harrop wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. The kickstand has a blind hole so no tasty metal sandwiches for me. I'll give locktite a go but I'm not terribly optimistic! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
Blue is the stuff the brake mfgs put on the mounting bolts it seems to work pretty well. As to the blind hole, what were they thinking? Unless there's enough meat for a really deep hole, at some point the bolt bottoms out can't be tightened further. dougP On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 3:55:27 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: An anecdote about *red* loctite: Once I foolishly red-loctited a Dura Ace fixed cog onto an ENO hub. When I tried to take it off, I broke the chain whip. I then put the cog, wrapped in chain, into a bench vise and used the wheel as lever. I shattered the cog and slightly warped the hub's threads. (Didn't read the instructions about using heat to loosen the grip.) You get the point As for blue, I've used it successfully for slipping seatposts and seatpost cradles -- so it takes quite a bit of torque. On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Tom Harrop twha...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. The kickstand has a blind hole so no tasty metal sandwiches for me. I'll give locktite a go but I'm not terribly optimistic! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
An anecdote about *red* loctite: Once I foolishly red-loctited a Dura Ace fixed cog onto an ENO hub. When I tried to take it off, I broke the chain whip. I then put the cog, wrapped in chain, into a bench vise and used the wheel as lever. I shattered the cog and slightly warped the hub's threads. (Didn't read the instructions about using heat to loosen the grip.) You get the point As for blue, I've used it successfully for slipping seatposts and seatpost cradles -- so it takes quite a bit of torque. On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Tom Harrop twhar...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. The kickstand has a blind hole so no tasty metal sandwiches for me. I'll give locktite a go but I'm not terribly optimistic! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Mounting bolt coming loose on twin-leg kickstand
I'm not familiar with your model stand but have had similar experience. My solution is using a longer bolt that extends thru the threaded part far enough to add a nylok nut acting as a jam nut. dougP On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 3:19:26 PM UTC-8, Tom Harrop wrote: Hi all, I love the Ursus Jumbo kickstand I installed on the kickstand plate on my Bombadil, but I'm getting a bit bored of re-tightening the bolt once a week. Any smart ideas? I have a spring washer in there right now which helped a little but didn't solve the problem completely. My bike (68 cm frame) weighs just under 20 kg unloaded, and I use the stand when I'm loading up with shopping, so maybe I'm simply past the limit of what a single bolt can hold...? Thanks for reading, Tom H, France -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
