[RBW] Re: My Rambouillet Build
Thanks very much for the information. I started researching painters in my area, and was surprised to find how many autobody shops will paint bicycles on the side. Best to you, Jay LePree Demarest, NJ On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 7:23:17 PM UTC-5 Fullylugged wrote: > Jay: I had mine painted in Pelham AL by Nathan Barnes ( > https://www.instagram.com/nate_barnes81/). He paints cars and > motorcycles during the week, bicycles (and sometimes plane parts) on the > weekend. I think he does great work and he is very reasonable in cost. I > have a PDF of the decals and had them made by a decal shop in MS. It was > pretty reasonable and there are two clear coats over them on my bike. My > color is actually a past Ford Mustang color called Autumn Gold. I didn't > like it on the cars but I think it's very nice on the bicycle. The cream is > standard RBW same as came on the bike. Msg me if you want more info on > decals. I've helped someone else here on the list as well, but am getting > old and forgetful so I couldn't say who. > > the Old Slow Guy > > On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 8:17:23 AM UTC-6 Jay LePree wrote: > >> Ben: That is beautiful. I have one of the last orange white 54 cm that >> we sold. (I purchased it in 2003). I have been looking for a painter. >> Where did you have your bike painted? How did you get the new decals? >> >> Jay >> Demarest, NJ >> >> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:31:58 PM UTC-5 Ben Miller wrote: >> >>> Hello Fellow RBW Owners, >>> >>> Wanted to do a little update on my Rambouillet build in progress, now >>> that it is actually taking form. >>> >>> First, a little bit of background. I've been lucky enough to have built >>> up four (4!) Riv bikes already, but this is really shaping up to be a truly >>> unique one for me. This Ram’s story started (for me) way back in late 2017 >>> with me purchasing it off fellow list member Keith as a F/F/HS. >>> Unfortunately a number of not so great life events happened shortly after >>> that, including fracturing my leg, taking me off the bike for nearly 6 >>> months. The frame moved with me down a new path in life, but mostly >>> collected dust in my garage. Not forgotten or abandoned, but definitely a >>> bit lonely while I worked on 2 more bikes that were more recently acquired. >>> During this time I quietly acquired used parts and ideas that eventually >>> coalesced into a build for the Rambouillet. >>> >>> The Ram frame itself is 64 cm painted with a beautiful sage green with a >>> bit of pearl iridescent to it. It has a couple of small paint chips on the >>> non-drive side seatstay, but otherwise in pristine condition. It was >>> included with a Tange headset. >>> >>> Previous Rivendell builds had mostly involved me purchasing brand new >>> components (not having a large parts bin to work off of), I think these >>> builds were still fun and interesting, but really been driven by new or >>> recent bike component technology. My vision for the Ram build is really to >>> focus on used/vintage/NOS stock parts as much as possible, but also fun and >>> practical to me. I know, not a revolutionary design principle, but this is >>> my first time executing it. >>> >>> The heart of this began around the idea of setting it up as a DT >>> friction shifting using a vintage Huret Duopar Eco I got off eBay. The >>> Duopar was originally introduced in 1975 with the Eco being released in >>> 1981. These 40 year old derailleurs were originally intended for 6 speed >>> freewheel, but through the magic of friction shifting and a little >>> finessing, seem to work just fine with a 9 speed cassette. The big thing >>> about the Duopar is it was one of first (perhaps the first?) derailluer to >>> handle up to a 36t cog and 40 teeth of chainwrap. My understanding is that >>> these RD’s are slightly controversial in terms of either loving or hating >>> them (lots is said about their maintenance issues), but part of this was >>> trying to find out for myself. As I am just starting to learn about these >>> derailleurs, it’d be nice to hear from others about their experience! >>> >>> Over the last couple of days I’ve been able to get the Duopar dialed in >>> and shift through a Shimano HG 11-36 cassette using Silver DT shifters and >>> paired with a Sugino triple that I converted to 44/30. Today I finished >>> mounting a pair of Paul Racer centerpulls that I got off a list member and >>> got strung together to the NOS Mafac levers I got off eBay. These are >>> mounted on the Crust Shaka bars (my new favorite bars), which is so far the >>> only brand new part on this build besides the Velo Orange seatpost (I did >>> have a vintage seatpost I had been planning on using, but the mounting >>> plates have a lot of corrosion that is preventing them from providing a >>> tight hold). With brakes on and functional, I was able to take it out and >>> test the shifting in real conditions. And I have to
[RBW] Re: My Rambouillet Build
I'm also stopping by to comment on the workbench. Wow, what a cool piece! The bike looks fantastic, too; the proportions are just right. On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 6:23:17 PM UTC-6 Fullylugged wrote: > Jay: I had mine painted in Pelham AL by Nathan Barnes ( > https://www.instagram.com/nate_barnes81/). He paints cars and > motorcycles during the week, bicycles (and sometimes plane parts) on the > weekend. I think he does great work and he is very reasonable in cost. I > have a PDF of the decals and had them made by a decal shop in MS. It was > pretty reasonable and there are two clear coats over them on my bike. My > color is actually a past Ford Mustang color called Autumn Gold. I didn't > like it on the cars but I think it's very nice on the bicycle. The cream is > standard RBW same as came on the bike. Msg me if you want more info on > decals. I've helped someone else here on the list as well, but am getting > old and forgetful so I couldn't say who. > > the Old Slow Guy > > On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 8:17:23 AM UTC-6 Jay LePree wrote: > >> Ben: That is beautiful. I have one of the last orange white 54 cm that >> we sold. (I purchased it in 2003). I have been looking for a painter. >> Where did you have your bike painted? How did you get the new decals? >> >> Jay >> Demarest, NJ >> >> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:31:58 PM UTC-5 Ben Miller wrote: >> >>> Hello Fellow RBW Owners, >>> >>> Wanted to do a little update on my Rambouillet build in progress, now >>> that it is actually taking form. >>> >>> First, a little bit of background. I've been lucky enough to have built >>> up four (4!) Riv bikes already, but this is really shaping up to be a truly >>> unique one for me. This Ram’s story started (for me) way back in late 2017 >>> with me purchasing it off fellow list member Keith as a F/F/HS. >>> Unfortunately a number of not so great life events happened shortly after >>> that, including fracturing my leg, taking me off the bike for nearly 6 >>> months. The frame moved with me down a new path in life, but mostly >>> collected dust in my garage. Not forgotten or abandoned, but definitely a >>> bit lonely while I worked on 2 more bikes that were more recently acquired. >>> During this time I quietly acquired used parts and ideas that eventually >>> coalesced into a build for the Rambouillet. >>> >>> The Ram frame itself is 64 cm painted with a beautiful sage green with a >>> bit of pearl iridescent to it. It has a couple of small paint chips on the >>> non-drive side seatstay, but otherwise in pristine condition. It was >>> included with a Tange headset. >>> >>> Previous Rivendell builds had mostly involved me purchasing brand new >>> components (not having a large parts bin to work off of), I think these >>> builds were still fun and interesting, but really been driven by new or >>> recent bike component technology. My vision for the Ram build is really to >>> focus on used/vintage/NOS stock parts as much as possible, but also fun and >>> practical to me. I know, not a revolutionary design principle, but this is >>> my first time executing it. >>> >>> The heart of this began around the idea of setting it up as a DT >>> friction shifting using a vintage Huret Duopar Eco I got off eBay. The >>> Duopar was originally introduced in 1975 with the Eco being released in >>> 1981. These 40 year old derailleurs were originally intended for 6 speed >>> freewheel, but through the magic of friction shifting and a little >>> finessing, seem to work just fine with a 9 speed cassette. The big thing >>> about the Duopar is it was one of first (perhaps the first?) derailluer to >>> handle up to a 36t cog and 40 teeth of chainwrap. My understanding is that >>> these RD’s are slightly controversial in terms of either loving or hating >>> them (lots is said about their maintenance issues), but part of this was >>> trying to find out for myself. As I am just starting to learn about these >>> derailleurs, it’d be nice to hear from others about their experience! >>> >>> Over the last couple of days I’ve been able to get the Duopar dialed in >>> and shift through a Shimano HG 11-36 cassette using Silver DT shifters and >>> paired with a Sugino triple that I converted to 44/30. Today I finished >>> mounting a pair of Paul Racer centerpulls that I got off a list member and >>> got strung together to the NOS Mafac levers I got off eBay. These are >>> mounted on the Crust Shaka bars (my new favorite bars), which is so far the >>> only brand new part on this build besides the Velo Orange seatpost (I did >>> have a vintage seatpost I had been planning on using, but the mounting >>> plates have a lot of corrosion that is preventing them from providing a >>> tight hold). With brakes on and functional, I was able to take it out and >>> test the shifting in real conditions. And I have to say, it feels really >>> nice, couldn’t be happier at this point. >>>
[RBW] Re: My Rambouillet Build
Jay: I had mine painted in Pelham AL by Nathan Barnes (https://www.instagram.com/nate_barnes81/). He paints cars and motorcycles during the week, bicycles (and sometimes plane parts) on the weekend. I think he does great work and he is very reasonable in cost. I have a PDF of the decals and had them made by a decal shop in MS. It was pretty reasonable and there are two clear coats over them on my bike. My color is actually a past Ford Mustang color called Autumn Gold. I didn't like it on the cars but I think it's very nice on the bicycle. The cream is standard RBW same as came on the bike. Msg me if you want more info on decals. I've helped someone else here on the list as well, but am getting old and forgetful so I couldn't say who. the Old Slow Guy On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 8:17:23 AM UTC-6 Jay LePree wrote: > Ben: That is beautiful. I have one of the last orange white 54 cm that > we sold. (I purchased it in 2003). I have been looking for a painter. > Where did you have your bike painted? How did you get the new decals? > > Jay > Demarest, NJ > > On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:31:58 PM UTC-5 Ben Miller wrote: > >> Hello Fellow RBW Owners, >> >> Wanted to do a little update on my Rambouillet build in progress, now >> that it is actually taking form. >> >> First, a little bit of background. I've been lucky enough to have built >> up four (4!) Riv bikes already, but this is really shaping up to be a truly >> unique one for me. This Ram’s story started (for me) way back in late 2017 >> with me purchasing it off fellow list member Keith as a F/F/HS. >> Unfortunately a number of not so great life events happened shortly after >> that, including fracturing my leg, taking me off the bike for nearly 6 >> months. The frame moved with me down a new path in life, but mostly >> collected dust in my garage. Not forgotten or abandoned, but definitely a >> bit lonely while I worked on 2 more bikes that were more recently acquired. >> During this time I quietly acquired used parts and ideas that eventually >> coalesced into a build for the Rambouillet. >> >> The Ram frame itself is 64 cm painted with a beautiful sage green with a >> bit of pearl iridescent to it. It has a couple of small paint chips on the >> non-drive side seatstay, but otherwise in pristine condition. It was >> included with a Tange headset. >> >> Previous Rivendell builds had mostly involved me purchasing brand new >> components (not having a large parts bin to work off of), I think these >> builds were still fun and interesting, but really been driven by new or >> recent bike component technology. My vision for the Ram build is really to >> focus on used/vintage/NOS stock parts as much as possible, but also fun and >> practical to me. I know, not a revolutionary design principle, but this is >> my first time executing it. >> >> The heart of this began around the idea of setting it up as a DT friction >> shifting using a vintage Huret Duopar Eco I got off eBay. The Duopar was >> originally introduced in 1975 with the Eco being released in 1981. These 40 >> year old derailleurs were originally intended for 6 speed freewheel, but >> through the magic of friction shifting and a little finessing, seem to work >> just fine with a 9 speed cassette. The big thing about the Duopar is it was >> one of first (perhaps the first?) derailluer to handle up to a 36t cog and >> 40 teeth of chainwrap. My understanding is that these RD’s are slightly >> controversial in terms of either loving or hating them (lots is said about >> their maintenance issues), but part of this was trying to find out for >> myself. As I am just starting to learn about these derailleurs, it’d be >> nice to hear from others about their experience! >> >> Over the last couple of days I’ve been able to get the Duopar dialed in >> and shift through a Shimano HG 11-36 cassette using Silver DT shifters and >> paired with a Sugino triple that I converted to 44/30. Today I finished >> mounting a pair of Paul Racer centerpulls that I got off a list member and >> got strung together to the NOS Mafac levers I got off eBay. These are >> mounted on the Crust Shaka bars (my new favorite bars), which is so far the >> only brand new part on this build besides the Velo Orange seatpost (I did >> have a vintage seatpost I had been planning on using, but the mounting >> plates have a lot of corrosion that is preventing them from providing a >> tight hold). With brakes on and functional, I was able to take it out and >> test the shifting in real conditions. And I have to say, it feels really >> nice, couldn’t be happier at this point. >> >> The eventual plan is to swap the 700c wheels for 650b (but the 650b >> wheels that I had planned to go on here ended up on my girlfriends >> Rambouillet!) and put on 42mm BSP’s. >> >> I know this is a long write-up, but it’s been a long road to this build. >> But it is finally nearing
[RBW] Re: My Rambouillet Build
Ben: That is beautiful. I have one of the last orange white 54 cm that we sold. (I purchased it in 2003). I have been looking for a painter. Where did you have your bike painted? How did you get the new decals? Jay Demarest, NJ On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:31:58 PM UTC-5 Ben Miller wrote: > Hello Fellow RBW Owners, > > Wanted to do a little update on my Rambouillet build in progress, now that > it is actually taking form. > > First, a little bit of background. I've been lucky enough to have built up > four (4!) Riv bikes already, but this is really shaping up to be a truly > unique one for me. This Ram’s story started (for me) way back in late 2017 > with me purchasing it off fellow list member Keith as a F/F/HS. > Unfortunately a number of not so great life events happened shortly after > that, including fracturing my leg, taking me off the bike for nearly 6 > months. The frame moved with me down a new path in life, but mostly > collected dust in my garage. Not forgotten or abandoned, but definitely a > bit lonely while I worked on 2 more bikes that were more recently acquired. > During this time I quietly acquired used parts and ideas that eventually > coalesced into a build for the Rambouillet. > > The Ram frame itself is 64 cm painted with a beautiful sage green with a > bit of pearl iridescent to it. It has a couple of small paint chips on the > non-drive side seatstay, but otherwise in pristine condition. It was > included with a Tange headset. > > Previous Rivendell builds had mostly involved me purchasing brand new > components (not having a large parts bin to work off of), I think these > builds were still fun and interesting, but really been driven by new or > recent bike component technology. My vision for the Ram build is really to > focus on used/vintage/NOS stock parts as much as possible, but also fun and > practical to me. I know, not a revolutionary design principle, but this is > my first time executing it. > > The heart of this began around the idea of setting it up as a DT friction > shifting using a vintage Huret Duopar Eco I got off eBay. The Duopar was > originally introduced in 1975 with the Eco being released in 1981. These 40 > year old derailleurs were originally intended for 6 speed freewheel, but > through the magic of friction shifting and a little finessing, seem to work > just fine with a 9 speed cassette. The big thing about the Duopar is it was > one of first (perhaps the first?) derailluer to handle up to a 36t cog and > 40 teeth of chainwrap. My understanding is that these RD’s are slightly > controversial in terms of either loving or hating them (lots is said about > their maintenance issues), but part of this was trying to find out for > myself. As I am just starting to learn about these derailleurs, it’d be > nice to hear from others about their experience! > > Over the last couple of days I’ve been able to get the Duopar dialed in > and shift through a Shimano HG 11-36 cassette using Silver DT shifters and > paired with a Sugino triple that I converted to 44/30. Today I finished > mounting a pair of Paul Racer centerpulls that I got off a list member and > got strung together to the NOS Mafac levers I got off eBay. These are > mounted on the Crust Shaka bars (my new favorite bars), which is so far the > only brand new part on this build besides the Velo Orange seatpost (I did > have a vintage seatpost I had been planning on using, but the mounting > plates have a lot of corrosion that is preventing them from providing a > tight hold). With brakes on and functional, I was able to take it out and > test the shifting in real conditions. And I have to say, it feels really > nice, couldn’t be happier at this point. > > The eventual plan is to swap the 700c wheels for 650b (but the 650b wheels > that I had planned to go on here ended up on my girlfriends Rambouillet!) > and put on 42mm BSP’s. > > I know this is a long write-up, but it’s been a long road to this build. > But it is finally nearing culmination. I have to say, what a time to be > alive and into bikes, with so many different options and ways to approach a > bike build. I feel pretty lucky and excited for how this is gonna turn > out! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e40750a1-a878-496a-b2df-1ba410a44a7an%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: My Rambouillet Build
I will add my kudos--beautiful bicycle, great job with the build. Any other bike would have been upstaged by that lovely antique workbench. I've bought and sold a few in my day. There is something about how they show the history of use through every cut, gouge & stain. May your Rambouillet develop the same fantastic beausage and patina over the years! On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 7:21:02 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote: > Fantastic build Ben, can't go wrong with a Rambouillet. I've got mine > since a new complete bike build and it has morphed to Pauls racers, French > derailleurs and 700c x 32 Stampede Pass under some nice wide hammered > Honjos. A subtle twenty year evolution. > > I use SunTour AccuShift bar end shifters, Mavic rear derailleur with a > WolfTooth RoadLink to extend the max tooth count with a wide (46-34t) > double on a shorter SKF BB shifted by a Mavic FD. Remaining OEM parts: > Nitto bar and stem, Ultegra cartridge HS, Nitto seatpost, Brooks > professional (with care, it is still in shape) TA Zephyr triple crank with > inner using bolts & removable spacers to become a double. It's just a > natural and takes on riding well beyond the its current specs would lead > you believe. It's been ridden across the country, on singletrack, grassy > fields, trails, broken roadways of the local post industrial urban > environment. Those can be anything from asphalt and concrete to brick, > stone block and one short wooden paver street. Been down the GAP and back > several times. I just held off transitioning to 650B and generator hub > lights because while an unusual under square (top tube shorter than seat > tube) production frame, I really need even a bit shorter optimally, so I > held my big $ for a bespoke frame. > > You're on the way to perfection with your build. You will get called out > in public by random folks who appreciate that bike to the quiet consternation > of > the proximate cyclists on newer, more exotic, pricier bikes. During Bike > New York's Five Boro Ride My wife wondered if I knew the all people calling > out my bike and its fit for me and could I make them stop doing it since it > was upsetting riders around us. > > Enjoy the return to better health, riding and that beauty![image: > 20160619_150538.jpg] > > Andy Cheatham > Pittsburgh > > > > > > On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:31:58 PM UTC-5 Ben Miller wrote: > >> Hello Fellow RBW Owners, >> >> Wanted to do a little update on my Rambouillet build in progress, now >> that it is actually taking form. >> >> First, a little bit of background. I've been lucky enough to have built >> up four (4!) Riv bikes already, but this is really shaping up to be a truly >> unique one for me. This Ram’s story started (for me) way back in late 2017 >> with me purchasing it off fellow list member Keith as a F/F/HS. >> Unfortunately a number of not so great life events happened shortly after >> that, including fracturing my leg, taking me off the bike for nearly 6 >> months. The frame moved with me down a new path in life, but mostly >> collected dust in my garage. Not forgotten or abandoned, but definitely a >> bit lonely while I worked on 2 more bikes that were more recently acquired. >> During this time I quietly acquired used parts and ideas that eventually >> coalesced into a build for the Rambouillet. >> >> The Ram frame itself is 64 cm painted with a beautiful sage green with a >> bit of pearl iridescent to it. It has a couple of small paint chips on the >> non-drive side seatstay, but otherwise in pristine condition. It was >> included with a Tange headset. >> >> Previous Rivendell builds had mostly involved me purchasing brand new >> components (not having a large parts bin to work off of), I think these >> builds were still fun and interesting, but really been driven by new or >> recent bike component technology. My vision for the Ram build is really to >> focus on used/vintage/NOS stock parts as much as possible, but also fun and >> practical to me. I know, not a revolutionary design principle, but this is >> my first time executing it. >> >> The heart of this began around the idea of setting it up as a DT friction >> shifting using a vintage Huret Duopar Eco I got off eBay. The Duopar was >> originally introduced in 1975 with the Eco being released in 1981. These 40 >> year old derailleurs were originally intended for 6 speed freewheel, but >> through the magic of friction shifting and a little finessing, seem to work >> just fine with a 9 speed cassette. The big thing about the Duopar is it was >> one of first (perhaps the first?) derailluer to handle up to a 36t cog and >> 40 teeth of chainwrap. My understanding is that these RD’s are slightly >> controversial in terms of either loving or hating them (lots is said about >> their maintenance issues), but part of this was trying to find out for >> myself. As I am just starting to learn about these derailleurs, it’d be >>
[RBW] Re: My Rambouillet Build
Beautiful! Congratulations! On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 2:37:41 PM UTC-8 Ben Miller wrote: > Opps. Here is a photo of the whole bike... > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3e716e41-8f54-4d5d-a9fc-09ac152b896dn%40googlegroups.com.
