Re: [RBW] Re: Narrow Wide Chain Ring on Triple
Wow now that looks like an amazing place to ride! On Mar 26, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Update: I rode the same route I busted my chain on the other day, and the new narrow-wide chainring handled beautifully! It got tested with snow of every consistincy (powder to packed, to slush, and everything in between), one section of road with deep cake-on mud, and it handled everything beautifully. All kinds of jouncing, zero wierd sounds and no chain bounce or come-off's. Pictures show it's easier to go farther when you have a working drivetrain. Grin. (Pictures start here and go left or newer for a total of 11 shots): https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16938771525/in/photostream/ With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/abHFld5HLjw/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Narrow Wide Chain Ring on Triple
Update: I rode the same route I busted my chain on the other day, and the new narrow-wide chainring handled beautifully! It got tested with snow of every consistincy (powder to packed, to slush, and everything in between), one section of road with deep cake-on mud, and it handled everything beautifully. All kinds of jouncing, zero wierd sounds and no chain bounce or come-off's. Pictures show it's easier to go farther when you have a working drivetrain. Grin. (Pictures start here and go left or newer for a total of 11 shots): https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16938771525/in/photostream/ With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Narrow Wide Chain Ring on Triple
The narrow wide 38t ring handled beautifully on our briefer by half inaugural bikepacking trip of the year. It got long climbs with my full load and low gear was low enough (just -- pre-QB days it would not have been). That was dirt roads and no trail. No rough roads though, minimal washboard. so no chance to more extensively test chain drop. Those tests will come once the snow melts on the trails or I get impatient and ride them anyway. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Narrow Wide Chain Ring on Triple
Thanks; informative video. When did cyclocross go to 1 ring? At 10 or 11 cogs? Narrated by Gomer Pyle! On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Bill Gibson bill.bgib...@gmail.com wrote: You might enjoy Pal Calvin's presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFsVyq0fczU I hope the link works. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Narrow Wide Chain Ring on Triple
Campagnolo sold cyclocross chainring guards for converting your Super Record Crankset to a 1x cyclocross setup in the 1970s and 1980s. You can still find them on ebay. It was a standard setup. I don't know how far back it goes prior to the 1970s. Google Campagnolo cyclocross chain guards to see images. The really cute part is how prettily they are profiled. On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 9:06:31 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Thanks; informative video. When did cyclocross go to 1 ring? At 10 or 11 cogs? Narrated by Gomer Pyle! On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Bill Gibson bill.b...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: You might enjoy Pal Calvin's presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFsVyq0fczU I hope the link works. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Narrow Wide Chain Ring on Triple
I hear you, Ron. The FD really adds a stunning amount of sound that I could never get rid of. It's also a common sentament among those who shift to a 1x drive train to be delighted to not have the FD to mess with. This way, I have my rock guard (my 46t ring), my riding gear, and my granny, but without a FD. At least for the riding I do as me (and is there any other way? Grin.) I spend all my time in my middle ring (36t previously, 38t now, with 12-34t cogs) with the sole exception of singletrack or high altitude steep dirt roads, in which case I'm not shifting the front rings back and forth, but staying in the 24t. I'm not saying this set up is for anyone but me, but on my initial ride I was amazed by how snug and responsive and silent the drivetrain was. If it's any consolation, when I asked my wife and daughters how they would like to shift their front chain rings when I build up their Clementines, it was unanimous. FD's all round! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Narrow Wide Chain Ring on Triple
seems like if you've gone to the trouble to fit a chain to that wide range, a FD is a no-brainer. Especially shifting between the two larger rings in terrain when you're moving. On my latest bike, compact double (little ring is mostly for bailout, but also for trails) I did ride it without a FD and manually shifted between the rings to check RD function, simply because I was waiting for my bargain-price FD to sail across the big pond from UK. Though must admit, I've never had a wide-spaced MB triple (never even liked the looks of them) On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 4:38:45 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I mentioned this in a different thread, but it seems like it deserves it’s own thread (and has been discussed here various places before, which is how I knew it might work). My middle chain ring is now a 38t Raceface narrow wide (only took me four times assembling and disassembling it to get all the recessed and pin bits going the correct ways! Sardonic grin). I am not running a front derailer, so positioning the chain to match the narrow-wide is easy with manual shifting, and I only shift to the 24t when bikepacking singletrack. Initial test ride (ten miles on singletrack and dirt road, half up, half down, with a few steepish climbs to crank hard on, and lots of rough trail and washboarded fast descents. chain never bounced off (it did with my old rings on the rough stuff). We’ll see how it goes on this weeks bikepacking trip — mostly dirt roads likely won’t need my 24t. Thanks for opening me up to this possibility. The chain feels more solid than the old ring (but an exact replacement could also feel more solid being new). With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Narrow Wide Chain Ring on Triple
I always use friction shifting on my front derailleur (and don't understand why one would want indexed FDs, mainly because you lose the ability to trim)... On my mountain bikes, I run SRAM XO or X9 Grip Shifts (indexed rear, friction front) and swear by them (but realize that's a tough sell to most people)... I also love the old Suntour XC rear derailleurs, with super heavy springs. I seldom drop chains on even the roughest technical terrain. Patrick, if you're dropping your chain on rough terrain, could it be a combination of having too much chain, required for running a 1x setup, and/or perhaps not having a strong enough spring on the rear derailleur? Whether you hate your FD, running a triple (or double) does enable you to run a shorter chain if you stick to the rule of keeping a straight chainline, not crossing your chain from large cog to large chainring or vice versa, Just one opinion. BB On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 9:39:41 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I hear you, Ron. The FD really adds a stunning amount of sound that I could never get rid of. It's also a common sentament among those who shift to a 1x drive train to be delighted to not have the FD to mess with. This way, I have my rock guard (my 46t ring), my riding gear, and my granny, but without a FD. At least for the riding I do as me (and is there any other way? Grin.) I spend all my time in my middle ring (36t previously, 38t now, with 12-34t cogs) with the sole exception of singletrack or high altitude steep dirt roads, in which case I'm not shifting the front rings back and forth, but staying in the 24t. I'm not saying this set up is for anyone but me, but on my initial ride I was amazed by how snug and responsive and silent the drivetrain was. If it's any consolation, when I asked my wife and daughters how they would like to shift their front chain rings when I build up their Clementines, it was unanimous. FD's all round! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Narrow Wide Chain Ring on Triple
The chain is shorter with this set up now. I can actually use the full range of gears in both, though I minimize the use of cross chaining in the 24t as it's in the inside position of the triple. The 38t is in the middle, so I use it's full range. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 8:50:15 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote: I always use friction shifting on my front derailleur (and don't understand why one would want indexed FDs, mainly because you lose the ability to trim)... On my mountain bikes, I run SRAM XO or X9 Grip Shifts (indexed rear, friction front) and swear by them (but realize that's a tough sell to most people)... I also love the old Suntour XC rear derailleurs, with super heavy springs. I seldom drop chains on even the roughest technical terrain. Patrick, if you're dropping your chain on rough terrain, could it be a combination of having too much chain, required for running a 1x setup, and/or perhaps not having a strong enough spring on the rear derailleur? Whether you hate your FD, running a triple (or double) does enable you to run a shorter chain if you stick to the rule of keeping a straight chainline, not crossing your chain from large cog to large chainring or vice versa, Just one opinion. BB On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 9:39:41 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I hear you, Ron. The FD really adds a stunning amount of sound that I could never get rid of. It's also a common sentament among those who shift to a 1x drive train to be delighted to not have the FD to mess with. This way, I have my rock guard (my 46t ring), my riding gear, and my granny, but without a FD. At least for the riding I do as me (and is there any other way? Grin.) I spend all my time in my middle ring (36t previously, 38t now, with 12-34t cogs) with the sole exception of singletrack or high altitude steep dirt roads, in which case I'm not shifting the front rings back and forth, but staying in the 24t. I'm not saying this set up is for anyone but me, but on my initial ride I was amazed by how snug and responsive and silent the drivetrain was. If it's any consolation, when I asked my wife and daughters how they would like to shift their front chain rings when I build up their Clementines, it was unanimous. FD's all round! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Narrow Wide Chain Ring on Triple
Nice! Glad you got it working Deacon. I love wide-narrow rings. They can make for a noisy drivetrain over time as the teeth are a precise fit to the chain, but staying on top of cleaning makes it a non-issue. On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 9:56:16 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: The chain is shorter with this set up now. I can actually use the full range of gears in both, though I minimize the use of cross chaining in the 24t as it's in the inside position of the triple. The 38t is in the middle, so I use it's full range. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 8:50:15 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote: I always use friction shifting on my front derailleur (and don't understand why one would want indexed FDs, mainly because you lose the ability to trim)... On my mountain bikes, I run SRAM XO or X9 Grip Shifts (indexed rear, friction front) and swear by them (but realize that's a tough sell to most people)... I also love the old Suntour XC rear derailleurs, with super heavy springs. I seldom drop chains on even the roughest technical terrain. Patrick, if you're dropping your chain on rough terrain, could it be a combination of having too much chain, required for running a 1x setup, and/or perhaps not having a strong enough spring on the rear derailleur? Whether you hate your FD, running a triple (or double) does enable you to run a shorter chain if you stick to the rule of keeping a straight chainline, not crossing your chain from large cog to large chainring or vice versa, Just one opinion. BB On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 9:39:41 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I hear you, Ron. The FD really adds a stunning amount of sound that I could never get rid of. It's also a common sentament among those who shift to a 1x drive train to be delighted to not have the FD to mess with. This way, I have my rock guard (my 46t ring), my riding gear, and my granny, but without a FD. At least for the riding I do as me (and is there any other way? Grin.) I spend all my time in my middle ring (36t previously, 38t now, with 12-34t cogs) with the sole exception of singletrack or high altitude steep dirt roads, in which case I'm not shifting the front rings back and forth, but staying in the 24t. I'm not saying this set up is for anyone but me, but on my initial ride I was amazed by how snug and responsive and silent the drivetrain was. If it's any consolation, when I asked my wife and daughters how they would like to shift their front chain rings when I build up their Clementines, it was unanimous. FD's all round! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Narrow Wide Chain Ring on Triple
No. Every other tooth is wider. Google it, pictures make it easy to understand. On Mar 23, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: What is a narrow wide chainring? = wide range double? On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: You can't run a front derailer with a NW chainring--it might allow the chain to get off sync and not line up correctly to the narrow/wide teeth. I run with a double and no front derailer on a couple of my bikes. Works great: riding solo, move it to the 42t ring. Mountain biking or riding with kids, move it to the 32t. On my Cross Check, this also makes it easy to switch between geared and single speed configurations. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: seems like if you've gone to the trouble to fit a chain to that wide range, a FD is a no-brainer. Especially shifting between the two larger rings in terrain when you're moving. On my latest bike, compact double (little ring is mostly for bailout, but also for trails) I did ride it without a FD and manually shifted between the rings to check RD function, simply because I was waiting for my bargain-price FD to sail across the big pond from UK. Though must admit, I've never had a wide-spaced MB triple (never even liked the looks of them) On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 4:38:45 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I mentioned this in a different thread, but it seems like it deserves it’s own thread (and has been discussed here various places before, which is how I knew it might work). My middle chain ring is now a 38t Raceface narrow wide (only took me four times assembling and disassembling it to get all the recessed and pin bits going the correct ways! Sardonic grin). I am not running a front derailer, so positioning the chain to match the narrow-wide is easy with manual shifting, and I only shift to the 24t when bikepacking singletrack. Initial test ride (ten miles on singletrack and dirt road, half up, half down, with a few steepish climbs to crank hard on, and lots of rough trail and washboarded fast descents. chain never bounced off (it did with my old rings on the rough stuff). We’ll see how it goes on this weeks bikepacking trip — mostly dirt roads likely won’t need my 24t. Thanks for opening me up to this possibility. The chain feels more solid than the old ring (but an exact replacement could also feel more solid being new). With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. Chuang Tzu Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. Aristotle The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/abHFld5HLjw/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit
Re: [RBW] Re: Narrow Wide Chain Ring on Triple
Got it! Thanks. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com wrote: No. Every other tooth is wider. Google it, pictures make it easy to understand. On Mar 23, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: What is a narrow wide chainring? = wide range double? On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: You can't run a front derailer with a NW chainring--it might allow the chain to get off sync and not line up correctly to the narrow/wide teeth. I run with a double and no front derailer on a couple of my bikes. Works great: riding solo, move it to the 42t ring. Mountain biking or riding with kids, move it to the 32t. On my Cross Check, this also makes it easy to switch between geared and single speed configurations. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: seems like if you've gone to the trouble to fit a chain to that wide range, a FD is a no-brainer. Especially shifting between the two larger rings in terrain when you're moving. On my latest bike, compact double (little ring is mostly for bailout, but also for trails) I did ride it without a FD and manually shifted between the rings to check RD function, simply because I was waiting for my bargain-price FD to sail across the big pond from UK. Though must admit, I've never had a wide-spaced MB triple (never even liked the looks of them) On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 4:38:45 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I mentioned this in a different thread, but it seems like it deserves it’s own thread (and has been discussed here various places before, which is how I knew it might work). My middle chain ring is now a 38t Raceface narrow wide (only took me four times assembling and disassembling it to get all the recessed and pin bits going the correct ways! Sardonic grin). I am not running a front derailer, so positioning the chain to match the narrow-wide is easy with manual shifting, and I only shift to the 24t when bikepacking singletrack. Initial test ride (ten miles on singletrack and dirt road, half up, half down, with a few steepish climbs to crank hard on, and lots of rough trail and washboarded fast descents. chain never bounced off (it did with my old rings on the rough stuff). We’ll see how it goes on this weeks bikepacking trip — mostly dirt roads likely won’t need my 24t. Thanks for opening me up to this possibility. The chain feels more solid than the old ring (but an exact replacement could also feel more solid being new). With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/abHFld5HLjw/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [RBW] Re: Narrow Wide Chain Ring on Triple
What is a narrow wide chainring? = wide range double? On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: You can't run a front derailer with a NW chainring--it might allow the chain to get off sync and not line up correctly to the narrow/wide teeth. I run with a double and no front derailer on a couple of my bikes. Works great: riding solo, move it to the 42t ring. Mountain biking or riding with kids, move it to the 32t. On my Cross Check, this also makes it easy to switch between geared and single speed configurations. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: seems like if you've gone to the trouble to fit a chain to that wide range, a FD is a no-brainer. Especially shifting between the two larger rings in terrain when you're moving. On my latest bike, compact double (little ring is mostly for bailout, but also for trails) I did ride it without a FD and manually shifted between the rings to check RD function, simply because I was waiting for my bargain-price FD to sail across the big pond from UK. Though must admit, I've never had a wide-spaced MB triple (never even liked the looks of them) On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 4:38:45 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I mentioned this in a different thread, but it seems like it deserves it’s own thread (and has been discussed here various places before, which is how I knew it might work). My middle chain ring is now a 38t Raceface narrow wide (only took me four times assembling and disassembling it to get all the recessed and pin bits going the correct ways! Sardonic grin). I am not running a front derailer, so positioning the chain to match the narrow-wide is easy with manual shifting, and I only shift to the 24t when bikepacking singletrack. Initial test ride (ten miles on singletrack and dirt road, half up, half down, with a few steepish climbs to crank hard on, and lots of rough trail and washboarded fast descents. chain never bounced off (it did with my old rings on the rough stuff). We’ll see how it goes on this weeks bikepacking trip — mostly dirt roads likely won’t need my 24t. Thanks for opening me up to this possibility. The chain feels more solid than the old ring (but an exact replacement could also feel more solid being new). With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Narrow Wide Chain Ring on Triple
You can't run a front derailer with a NW chainring--it might allow the chain to get off sync and not line up correctly to the narrow/wide teeth. I run with a double and no front derailer on a couple of my bikes. Works great: riding solo, move it to the 42t ring. Mountain biking or riding with kids, move it to the 32t. On my Cross Check, this also makes it easy to switch between geared and single speed configurations. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: seems like if you've gone to the trouble to fit a chain to that wide range, a FD is a no-brainer. Especially shifting between the two larger rings in terrain when you're moving. On my latest bike, compact double (little ring is mostly for bailout, but also for trails) I did ride it without a FD and manually shifted between the rings to check RD function, simply because I was waiting for my bargain-price FD to sail across the big pond from UK. Though must admit, I've never had a wide-spaced MB triple (never even liked the looks of them) On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 4:38:45 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I mentioned this in a different thread, but it seems like it deserves it’s own thread (and has been discussed here various places before, which is how I knew it might work). My middle chain ring is now a 38t Raceface narrow wide (only took me four times assembling and disassembling it to get all the recessed and pin bits going the correct ways! Sardonic grin). I am not running a front derailer, so positioning the chain to match the narrow-wide is easy with manual shifting, and I only shift to the 24t when bikepacking singletrack. Initial test ride (ten miles on singletrack and dirt road, half up, half down, with a few steepish climbs to crank hard on, and lots of rough trail and washboarded fast descents. chain never bounced off (it did with my old rings on the rough stuff). We’ll see how it goes on this weeks bikepacking trip — mostly dirt roads likely won’t need my 24t. Thanks for opening me up to this possibility. The chain feels more solid than the old ring (but an exact replacement could also feel more solid being new). With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Narrow Wide Chain Ring on Triple
You might enjoy Pal Calvin's presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFsVyq0fczU I hope the link works. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Got it! Thanks. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com wrote: No. Every other tooth is wider. Google it, pictures make it easy to understand. On Mar 23, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: What is a narrow wide chainring? = wide range double? On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: You can't run a front derailer with a NW chainring--it might allow the chain to get off sync and not line up correctly to the narrow/wide teeth. I run with a double and no front derailer on a couple of my bikes. Works great: riding solo, move it to the 42t ring. Mountain biking or riding with kids, move it to the 32t. On my Cross Check, this also makes it easy to switch between geared and single speed configurations. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: seems like if you've gone to the trouble to fit a chain to that wide range, a FD is a no-brainer. Especially shifting between the two larger rings in terrain when you're moving. On my latest bike, compact double (little ring is mostly for bailout, but also for trails) I did ride it without a FD and manually shifted between the rings to check RD function, simply because I was waiting for my bargain-price FD to sail across the big pond from UK. Though must admit, I've never had a wide-spaced MB triple (never even liked the looks of them) On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 4:38:45 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I mentioned this in a different thread, but it seems like it deserves it’s own thread (and has been discussed here various places before, which is how I knew it might work). My middle chain ring is now a 38t Raceface narrow wide (only took me four times assembling and disassembling it to get all the recessed and pin bits going the correct ways! Sardonic grin). I am not running a front derailer, so positioning the chain to match the narrow-wide is easy with manual shifting, and I only shift to the 24t when bikepacking singletrack. Initial test ride (ten miles on singletrack and dirt road, half up, half down, with a few steepish climbs to crank hard on, and lots of rough trail and washboarded fast descents. chain never bounced off (it did with my old rings on the rough stuff). We’ll see how it goes on this weeks bikepacking trip — mostly dirt roads likely won’t need my 24t. Thanks for opening me up to this possibility. The chain feels more solid than the old ring (but an exact replacement could also feel more solid being new). With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/abHFld5HLjw/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --
