Re: [RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

[Patrick Moore]

I select my gears, then choose the mix of rings and cogs I need to get
them. For a "gofast" road bike ("fast is very relative) I like a 65", 70",
ad 75" right in the middle of the cogset. If I can get close steps with a
~40" low and a ~80-to-90" high, I'm happy.

On my erstwhile Ram I got these gears in 2 ways: first with a 44/30
subcompact crankset and a 14-15-16-17-18-20-23 7 speed, with the 44
positioned for use with all cogs. After buying a very pretty 7410 crankset,
I did much the same with a compact ("-") 52/38 and a
16-17-18-19-20-21-22-24-27 9 speed. The gaps with the bigger rings weren't
as efficiently spaced, for my needs, whence the 9 instead of the 7. But the
crank was so pretty, I had to use it.

I realize that my gearing choices indicate certain obsessive compulsive
tendencies.

Patrick "hopes to go for a nice Prez Day ride on his 75" gofast with a 66"
on the flip side" Moore, in sunny, warm ABQ, NM.

On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:

> So long as we're on the topic of go-fasts... what front chainring setups
> are people using?  I've been eminently satisfied w/ the standard Riv'ish
> setup of a ~46-36-23ish on triples and am very happy w/ my 45 1x on my
> Saluki...  But given that I'm limited to a 5 spd rear on my 120mm rear OLD
> go fast I am sticking to a triple and have found a couple times 46 seems a
> bit light in the front.  I'm more than satisfied on most rides but I have
> been wondering about stepping up to the 48 or 50T in the front.
>
> Also right now my granny is un-usable due to a bent up ring so I could
> really go w/ 2-3 new rings at the same time.  What do you run on your go
> fast?
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:32 PM Lungimsam  wrote:
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[RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

[Dave Johnston]

I just swapped out to a 46-38-24 w 12-28 7spd on my go fast, from a 
50-38-26 &11-28 as a winter project. I felt like the 50t was overkill and I 
was swapping cranks for other reasons so I thought I'd give it a try. I 
don't have any real riding time on this setup yet but on a steep downhill I 
missed the easy slow spin to keep up the speed (I probably should have just 
enjoyed the coast). I may put the 11t back on.

My other lightweight zippy bike is a Rawland Stag with 43-29 and 11-34 
9spd. I coast or spin the downhills on that one and that's OK too! I really 
like the simpler shifting of the double.

-Dave J

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 7:58:52 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> 20 miles -- no biggy; but I had no errand to run, so I took the gofast. 
> The Elk Pass tires are so nice; I can detour onto dirt, firm dirt and light 
> gravel, if I like -- despite their weight of 175 grams. Not that gofast 
> bikes need to have this capacity; but it is nice to have it when the tires 
> that allow it are the fastest pavement tires I've ridden (this is a seat of 
> pants/leg torque/cadence estimate). In fact, saying that gofasts have to be 
> dirt capable is like saying a racing car has to have a trunk.
>
> Anyway: sunny, breezy, temps over 60F -- very nice; a detour for a couple 
> of minor hills -- living in The Valley as I do, hills have to looked for.
>
> The point, if this divagation has a point: I'm glad I have a gofast! 
> Everyone ought to have one as one of the statutorily minimum 4 bikes in 
> their stable. Fully kitted commuting or errand bike; check. Dirt bike; 
> check. Beater; check. Gofast.
>
> I:
>
> '03 Riv: errands.
> '02: gofast.
> Race Lite and hopefully forthcoming Matthews: dirt.
> Dahon: beater.
>
> You?
>
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>
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> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
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>
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>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

[Tony DeFilippo]

So long as we're on the topic of go-fasts... what front chainring setups
are people using?  I've been eminently satisfied w/ the standard Riv'ish
setup of a ~46-36-23ish on triples and am very happy w/ my 45 1x on my
Saluki...  But given that I'm limited to a 5 spd rear on my 120mm rear OLD
go fast I am sticking to a triple and have found a couple times 46 seems a
bit light in the front.  I'm more than satisfied on most rides but I have
been wondering about stepping up to the 48 or 50T in the front.

Also right now my granny is un-usable due to a bent up ring so I could
really go w/ 2-3 new rings at the same time.  What do you run on your go
fast?


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[RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

[Hugh Smitham]

Most before work rides these days are on my gofast Trek 660. I love it! I 
rode up the canyon today and was treated to two red tailed hawks riding the 
thermals. I thought to myself that's what I feel like on this bike, like 
I'm flying but err on the ground. Now i want a hawk in flight headbadge.

~Hugh

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 4:58:52 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> 20 miles -- no biggy; but I had no errand to run, so I took the gofast. 
> The Elk Pass tires are so nice; I can detour onto dirt, firm dirt and light 
> gravel, if I like -- despite their weight of 175 grams. Not that gofast 
> bikes need to have this capacity; but it is nice to have it when the tires 
> that allow it are the fastest pavement tires I've ridden (this is a seat of 
> pants/leg torque/cadence estimate). In fact, saying that gofasts have to be 
> dirt capable is like saying a racing car has to have a trunk.
>
> Anyway: sunny, breezy, temps over 60F -- very nice; a detour for a couple 
> of minor hills -- living in The Valley as I do, hills have to looked for.
>
> The point, if this divagation has a point: I'm glad I have a gofast! 
> Everyone ought to have one as one of the statutorily minimum 4 bikes in 
> their stable. Fully kitted commuting or errand bike; check. Dirt bike; 
> check. Beater; check. Gofast.
>
> I:
>
> '03 Riv: errands.
> '02: gofast.
> Race Lite and hopefully forthcoming Matthews: dirt.
> Dahon: beater.
>
> You?
>
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>
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> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
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>
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>
>
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[RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

['Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Robin Williams said that riding a bike was the closest you could get to 
flying. On a nice back road with no cars around I definitely agree.

My go fast is a 1980's Proteus recently brought back to life after sitting 
for 10 years due to a bent fork. I think after sitting all this time it 
wants to fly too.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

[Hugh Smitham]

I agree with Robin but then there's this. Just a bit closer to our
feathered friends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXXUGZvYdzE

Tail Winds or Updrafts,

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 3:30 AM, 'Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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>
> Robin Williams said that riding a bike was the closest you could get to
> flying. On a nice back road with no cars around I definitely agree.
>
> My go fast is a 1980's Proteus recently brought back to life after sitting
> for 10 years due to a bent fork. I think after sitting all this time it
> wants to fly too.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

[Tim Gavin]

My go-fast is the Roadeo I picked up a couple weeks ago, used to be a
Giordana (I swapped the parts over).
Road/tour: Riv Road Standard 650b
Off-road/tour:  Schwinn KOM-10 with drop bars
Off-road:  Foundry Auger
Way off-road:  Specialized Fatboy

All my bikes are commuters, all but the Roadeo are fendered.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> I agree with Robin but then there's this. Just a bit closer to our
> feathered friends.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXXUGZvYdzE
>
> Tail Winds or Updrafts,
>
> ~Hugh
>
> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 3:30 AM, 'Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Robin Williams said that riding a bike was the closest you could get to
>> flying. On a nice back road with no cars around I definitely agree.
>>
>> My go fast is a 1980's Proteus recently brought back to life after
>> sitting for 10 years due to a bent fork. I think after sitting all this
>> time it wants to fly too.
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[RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

[David Banzer]

Redwood - unconverted recently, meaning back to 700c from 650b - Barlow 
Pass tires make this go smooth & fast
Clem - commuting duties, grocery getting
84 Schwinn Voyageur - faux-rando, single speed
Trek 330 - 650b'd, needs to be built back up, but certainly go-fast 
contender
BMC Monster Cross - coming soon, undecided in build, but most likely a 
single/fixed with mixed terrain tires


On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 6:58:52 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> 20 miles -- no biggy; but I had no errand to run, so I took the gofast. 
> The Elk Pass tires are so nice; I can detour onto dirt, firm dirt and light 
> gravel, if I like -- despite their weight of 175 grams. Not that gofast 
> bikes need to have this capacity; but it is nice to have it when the tires 
> that allow it are the fastest pavement tires I've ridden (this is a seat of 
> pants/leg torque/cadence estimate). In fact, saying that gofasts have to be 
> dirt capable is like saying a racing car has to have a trunk.
>
> Anyway: sunny, breezy, temps over 60F -- very nice; a detour for a couple 
> of minor hills -- living in The Valley as I do, hills have to looked for.
>
> The point, if this divagation has a point: I'm glad I have a gofast! 
> Everyone ought to have one as one of the statutorily minimum 4 bikes in 
> their stable. Fully kitted commuting or errand bike; check. Dirt bike; 
> check. Beater; check. Gofast.
>
> I:
>
> '03 Riv: errands.
> '02: gofast.
> Race Lite and hopefully forthcoming Matthews: dirt.
> Dahon: beater.
>
> You?
>
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> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
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>
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[RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

[RJM]

I love my go fast bike, which is my Roadeo. I did not ride it last night 
outside, but rather have it hooked up to a stationary trainer in the house, 
which I rode for an hour. Winter is my mountain bike time and I stuck a 
trainer tire on the Roadeo for a month or two until it warms a little. I 
don't really ride the Roadeo on dirt or gravel unless I hit a bad road 
while wandering around. I'm currently riding 25mm tires on it and I cannot 
complain about being held back on speed with this Riv. 

So, I currently have 4 ride-able bikes.

Roadeo - Go fast road bike
Atlantis - Touring bike
Trek Fuel EX 29'er - Full suspension trail bike
Niner Sir9 - Rigid Single speed XC bike

I need to get a bunch of parts and wheels sold off because I would kinda 
dig a Riv mountain bike, but that Sir9 is way cool, being steel. 

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 6:58:52 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

> 20 miles -- no biggy; but I had no errand to run, so I took the gofast. 
> The Elk Pass tires are so nice; I can detour onto dirt, firm dirt and light 
> gravel, if I like -- despite their weight of 175 grams. Not that gofast 
> bikes need to have this capacity; but it is nice to have it when the tires 
> that allow it are the fastest pavement tires I've ridden (this is a seat of 
> pants/leg torque/cadence estimate). In fact, saying that gofasts have to be 
> dirt capable is like saying a racing car has to have a trunk.
>
> Anyway: sunny, breezy, temps over 60F -- very nice; a detour for a couple 
> of minor hills -- living in The Valley as I do, hills have to looked for.
>
> The point, if this divagation has a point: I'm glad I have a gofast! 
> Everyone ought to have one as one of the statutorily minimum 4 bikes in 
> their stable. Fully kitted commuting or errand bike; check. Dirt bike; 
> check. Beater; check. Gofast.
>
> I:
>
> '03 Riv: errands.
> '02: gofast.
> Race Lite and hopefully forthcoming Matthews: dirt.
> Dahon: beater.
>
> You?
>
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> circumference on which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities 
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>
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> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
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>
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[RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

[Deacon Patrick]

I went fast today on my hunqapillar with clothes in the rear panniers in 
case the road allowed me to climb higher before turning into packed slick 
ice that I never ever trust drivers on, especially on a steep curvy canyon 
road. Turned around and went really fast on my underinflated 2.1" Thunder 
Burts (they needed to be this for the minagerie of textured frozen slush 
trail on the way up, before getting to the "back" roads off the highway 
(which I only ride down hill)). Did a grocery run ont he way home. Come 
spring, summer, and fall my go fast is my Quickbeam. Grin. Rivendells are 
awesome!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 5:58:52 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> 20 miles -- no biggy; but I had no errand to run, so I took the gofast. 
> The Elk Pass tires are so nice; I can detour onto dirt, firm dirt and light 
> gravel, if I like -- despite their weight of 175 grams. Not that gofast 
> bikes need to have this capacity; but it is nice to have it when the tires 
> that allow it are the fastest pavement tires I've ridden (this is a seat of 
> pants/leg torque/cadence estimate). In fact, saying that gofasts have to be 
> dirt capable is like saying a racing car has to have a trunk.
>
> Anyway: sunny, breezy, temps over 60F -- very nice; a detour for a couple 
> of minor hills -- living in The Valley as I do, hills have to looked for.
>
> The point, if this divagation has a point: I'm glad I have a gofast! 
> Everyone ought to have one as one of the statutorily minimum 4 bikes in 
> their stable. Fully kitted commuting or errand bike; check. Dirt bike; 
> check. Beater; check. Gofast.
>
> I:
>
> '03 Riv: errands.
> '02: gofast.
> Race Lite and hopefully forthcoming Matthews: dirt.
> Dahon: beater.
>
> You?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

[Lungimsam]

The only reason he grew the beard longer is for the air drag so the rest of the 
peloton could keep up.

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[RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

[Lungimsam]

Me:
Bleriot- My do everything bike with fenders, front rack, handlebar bag for 
commuting, errandonneuring, Randonneuring, recreational road riding, century 
riding, torestauranteuring.
Blue Sam -Same set up and uses.
And hoping to one day get a:
Boulder All Road - as a go faster, do everything bike with fenders, front rack, 
handlebar bag

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[RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

[Don Compton]

Patrick,
My go fast or slow fast is my Roadeo. With the 28 Grand Bois Cerfs, I can 
wander off road once in awhile and not lose anything on pavement. The other 
thing is that I am so tuned to the Riv handling that other brands just do 
not inspire me. 
Don C.

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 4:58:52 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> 20 miles -- no biggy; but I had no errand to run, so I took the gofast. 
> The Elk Pass tires are so nice; I can detour onto dirt, firm dirt and light 
> gravel, if I like -- despite their weight of 175 grams. Not that gofast 
> bikes need to have this capacity; but it is nice to have it when the tires 
> that allow it are the fastest pavement tires I've ridden (this is a seat of 
> pants/leg torque/cadence estimate). In fact, saying that gofasts have to be 
> dirt capable is like saying a racing car has to have a trunk.
>
> Anyway: sunny, breezy, temps over 60F -- very nice; a detour for a couple 
> of minor hills -- living in The Valley as I do, hills have to looked for.
>
> The point, if this divagation has a point: I'm glad I have a gofast! 
> Everyone ought to have one as one of the statutorily minimum 4 bikes in 
> their stable. Fully kitted commuting or errand bike; check. Dirt bike; 
> check. Beater; check. Gofast.
>
> I:
>
> '03 Riv: errands.
> '02: gofast.
> Race Lite and hopefully forthcoming Matthews: dirt.
> Dahon: beater.
>
> You?
>
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>
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[RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

[Tony DeFilippo]

I like your statutory minimum 4 proposal... Mostly because of conveniently 
aligns to my own stable!  

Saluki - commuter, all round
Bombadil - singletrack fun-coaster, commuter alternate
XO-3 - 'beater' (in the most endearing way), single speed
Bob Jackson - go fast

Is a fat bike somehow both implied and outside of the 'statutory minimum 4'?  :)

I was surprised how much I really enjoyed and continue to enjoy the stripped 
down 32mm tired Jackson...

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