Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-30 Thread John Philip
I used Nitto hardware on my Bombadil as well and it worked out 
fine... http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/8477467738/ 
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:25:09 AM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote:

 So, I tried using the clamps. They're really squirrelly. 

 But I noticed the slots are too wide for a m4 screw. What about the m6 
 bits from the mark's rack I just removed? 

 And, thus... 
 On Jul 21, 2013 5:42 PM, David Craig neritic...@gmail.com javascript: 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-30 Thread David Craig
So . . . you are saying that the pictured solution worked, right? Looks, 
and probably works, like it should without kludgey looking p-clamps. Nice!

Is there some place on this forum to permanently post pictures so that 
these sorts of solutions aren't lost?

Dave

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:25:09 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 So, I tried using the clamps. They're really squirrelly. 

 But I noticed the slots are too wide for a m4 screw. What about the m6 
 bits from the mark's rack I just removed? 

 And, thus... 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-30 Thread Christopher Chen
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. I assume you tried using the tubus
hardware you had lying around, and I used the nitto hardware I had lying
around. :)


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:24 AM, David Craig neritic.mari...@gmail.comwrote:

 So . . . you are saying that the pictured solution worked, right? Looks,
 and probably works, like it should without kludgey looking p-clamps. Nice!

 Is there some place on this forum to permanently post pictures so that
 these sorts of solutions aren't lost?

 Dave


 On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:25:09 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 So, I tried using the clamps. They're really squirrelly.

 But I noticed the slots are too wide for a m4 screw. What about the m6
 bits from the mark's rack I just removed?

 And, thus...
 On Jul 21, 2013 5:42 PM, David Craig neritic...@gmail.com wrote:

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-30 Thread David Craig
Perfect. That's exactly what happened in my case! Happy riding.

DC

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:29:26 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. I assume you tried using the tubus 
 hardware you had lying around, and I used the nitto hardware I had lying 
 around. :)


 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:24 AM, David Craig 
 neritic...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 So . . . you are saying that the pictured solution worked, right? Looks, 
 and probably works, like it should without kludgey looking p-clamps. Nice!

 Is there some place on this forum to permanently post pictures so that 
 these sorts of solutions aren't lost?

 Dave


 On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:25:09 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 So, I tried using the clamps. They're really squirrelly. 

 But I noticed the slots are too wide for a m4 screw. What about the m6 
 bits from the mark's rack I just removed? 

 And, thus... 
 On Jul 21, 2013 5:42 PM, David Craig neritic...@gmail.com wrote:

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-30 Thread William
Brilliant.  Very well done.  

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:25:09 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 So, I tried using the clamps. They're really squirrelly. 

 But I noticed the slots are too wide for a m4 screw. What about the m6 
 bits from the mark's rack I just removed? 

 And, thus... 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-30 Thread David Craig
John,

Sure seems like these racks ought to be sold with the Nitto hardware for 
RBW bikes doesn't it? The Tubus attachments worked equally well. Like 
Christopher, I just wasn't impressed with the Nitto Big Rack mounted using 
p-clamps. Your solution is much more a appropriate for a $200 rack.

Dave

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:04:35 AM UTC-7, John Philip wrote:

 I used Nitto hardware on my Bombadil as well and it worked out fine... 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/8477467738/ 
 On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:25:09 AM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote:

 So, I tried using the clamps. They're really squirrelly. 

 But I noticed the slots are too wide for a m4 screw. What about the m6 
 bits from the mark's rack I just removed? 

 And, thus... 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-30 Thread Christopher Chen
Ahem... A $185 rack!

Especially since the slots on the rack fit the hardware I had, not the
hardware it came with!

But I have to say, looking at the Japanese newspapers it was packed in was
great fun.

cc


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 John,

 Sure seems like these racks ought to be sold with the Nitto hardware for
 RBW bikes doesn't it? The Tubus attachments worked equally well. Like
 Christopher, I just wasn't impressed with the Nitto Big Rack mounted using
 p-clamps. Your solution is much more a appropriate for a $200 rack.

 Dave


 On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:04:35 AM UTC-7, John Philip wrote:

 I used Nitto hardware on my Bombadil as well and it worked out fine...
 http://www.flickr.com/**photos/cnyriv/8477467738/http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/8477467738/

 On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:25:09 AM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote:

 So, I tried using the clamps. They're really squirrelly.

 But I noticed the slots are too wide for a m4 screw. What about the m6
 bits from the mark's rack I just removed?

 And, thus...
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-30 Thread John Philip
I agree. I never liked the p clamp mount. The Nitto hardware makes for easy on 
and off as well. I've mounted the rack on two bikes with only slight 
adjustment. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-30 Thread David Craig
Nice!! I usually file the ends of the stays to round them off as well. 
Seems like end caps always fall off and the sharp metal on the stays can 
result in cuts.

Dave

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:08:25 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 More pics after I trimmed the stay. 

 Andy, you're next. 
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 I agree. I never liked the p clamp mount. The Nitto hardware makes for 
 easy on and off as well. I've mounted the rack on two bikes with only 
 slight adjustment.

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-21 Thread David Craig
Hey, Christopher:

I was going through some old touring photos today and found some shots of 
how I adapted the Nitto Front to my Bombadil. I forgot I had even come up 
with this solution as I ended up using a tubus lowrider on the Bomba that 
summer. The rear rack was a black Tubus, so I succumbed to rack matching. 
I do recall that the rack was solid and, in contrast to p-clamps, it looked 
like it was made to mounted this way. 

http://tinyurl.com/m8v2e6t

You'll need the Tubus parts:

http://tinyurl.com/lq57lt3

and 

http://tinyurl.com/ny3g6q5

You'll note that I did the mounting on the inside of the fork braze on. You 
might be able to make it work on the outside with one of the offset tubus 
round bars. You only need a short length of rod.

If I was to mount a Nitto Big Rack on a Riv, I would certainly do it this 
way again!

Dave

On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:22:16 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I've been looking for pictures of a Hilsen with the large front rack (see, 
 there's this sale going on), and I wonder how it all comes together. Can I 
 use the upper eyelets on the fork, or will I be forced to use the clamps? 
 How does it work with the SKS longboard mounting hardware? Etc, etc.

 Any tips?

 cc

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-21 Thread Christopher Chen
Fantastic! I'm literally dancing.
On Jul 21, 2013 11:16 AM, David Craig neritic.mari...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey, Christopher:

 I was going through some old touring photos today and found some shots of
 how I adapted the Nitto Front to my Bombadil. I forgot I had even come up
 with this solution as I ended up using a tubus lowrider on the Bomba that
 summer. The rear rack was a black Tubus, so I succumbed to rack matching.
 I do recall that the rack was solid and, in contrast to p-clamps, it looked
 like it was made to mounted this way.

 http://tinyurl.com/m8v2e6t

 You'll need the Tubus parts:

 http://tinyurl.com/lq57lt3

 and

 http://tinyurl.com/ny3g6q5

 You'll note that I did the mounting on the inside of the fork braze on.
 You might be able to make it work on the outside with one of the offset
 tubus round bars. You only need a short length of rod.

 If I was to mount a Nitto Big Rack on a Riv, I would certainly do it this
 way again!

 Dave

 On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:22:16 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I've been looking for pictures of a Hilsen with the large front rack
 (see, there's this sale going on), and I wonder how it all comes together.
 Can I use the upper eyelets on the fork, or will I be forced to use the
 clamps? How does it work with the SKS longboard mounting hardware? Etc, etc.

 Any tips?

 cc

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-21 Thread David Craig
Wonderful. I'm glad. let me know if you have any other q's

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-19 Thread William
Christopher

Are you using a 700c Hilsen or a 650B Hilsen?  I have a Nitto Big Front 
Rack and I have a 650B Hilsen, but I have never installed my Nitto Big 
Front Rack on my 650B Hilsen.  But, if it would be helpful, I could 
probably mock it up and take a photo for you.   Let me know.  If your 
Hilsen is 700c, then I won't bother because it won't help you.  

Regarding your fender hardware, there are a number of different things one 
can do.  You could run one long bolt through the fender stay and the rack, 
but you want to get the load-bearing rack as close to the fork braze on as 
possible, and stack the fender on the rack, not the rack on the fender.  

The other option is to attach the fenders to the rack.  In the photo you 
see there are a couple different holes where you'll bolt the rack to the 
fork tip.  One of those holes is actually threaded, so you can bolt your 
fender clip to the rack in that hole.  

On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:22:16 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I've been looking for pictures of a Hilsen with the large front rack (see, 
 there's this sale going on), and I wonder how it all comes together. Can I 
 use the upper eyelets on the fork, or will I be forced to use the clamps? 
 How does it work with the SKS longboard mounting hardware? Etc, etc.

 Any tips?

 cc

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-19 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
I'll be riding my Homer to the meet up at Velo Cult this evening. It has a 
completely different front rack and no fenders, so looking at my set up 
will be of no help to answer the posted question, but you're welcome to 
check it out anyways. 

I'll bet you need the P-clamps and it's fine with the fender hardware.

--Smitty



On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:22:16 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I've been looking for pictures of a Hilsen with the large front rack (see, 
 there's this sale going on), and I wonder how it all comes together. Can I 
 use the upper eyelets on the fork, or will I be forced to use the clamps? 
 How does it work with the SKS longboard mounting hardware? Etc, etc.

 Any tips?

 cc

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-19 Thread David Craig
Christopher

I mounted a Nitto Front on an Atlantis without any eyelet braze-ons and 
used it for touring a couple of seasons. I used the p-clamps and mounted 
the fender to the rack using some spacers. It worked out fine. You'll 
likely need to use the clamps on the Hilsen since, as I recall the braze on 
eyelets aren't in the right place. You could try these:* *
*
*
http://tinyurl.com/k4k8rgh* *Tubus mid-fork eyelets.
*
*
They look good and are stable attachments, but they might be too far back 
to hook the rack to. I recall that the rack mount slot doesn't quite match 
up with the fork and still allow a level rack top. I think an overall 
better solution for the Hilsen - sale be damned - is a Mark's rack paired 
with a Tubus Nova rack. It's a practical approach that works great on my 
Long Haul Trucker, although I actually use a Tubus Duo for the lower rack. 
Most of the time, I just use my rear rack and the small front. I really 
like the looks of the Nitto large, but I never liked the unnecessary bulk. 
In my opinion, the small rack and the tubus are much more stable under load.

Dave

On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:22:16 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I've been looking for pictures of a Hilsen with the large front rack (see, 
 there's this sale going on), and I wonder how it all comes together. Can I 
 use the upper eyelets on the fork, or will I be forced to use the clamps? 
 How does it work with the SKS longboard mounting hardware? Etc, etc.

 Any tips?

 cc

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-19 Thread Christopher Chen
Thanks for the tips folks. I've got the rack on order, so we'll see how it
works. Mine's a 700c Hilsen, born last year. Actually it's 360 days old.

I was hoping I'd be able to use the brazeons, but if not, that's okay. To
be honest, I've been waiting for the hub area racks (like everyone else
here), and I just got impatient.

cc


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:42 PM, David Craig neritic.mari...@gmail.comwrote:

 Christopher

 I mounted a Nitto Front on an Atlantis without any eyelet braze-ons and
 used it for touring a couple of seasons. I used the p-clamps and mounted
 the fender to the rack using some spacers. It worked out fine. You'll
 likely need to use the clamps on the Hilsen since, as I recall the braze on
 eyelets aren't in the right place. You could try these:* *
 *
 *
 http://tinyurl.com/k4k8rgh* *Tubus mid-fork eyelets.
 *
 *
 They look good and are stable attachments, but they might be too far back
 to hook the rack to. I recall that the rack mount slot doesn't quite match
 up with the fork and still allow a level rack top. I think an overall
 better solution for the Hilsen - sale be damned - is a Mark's rack paired
 with a Tubus Nova rack. It's a practical approach that works great on my
 Long Haul Trucker, although I actually use a Tubus Duo for the lower rack.
 Most of the time, I just use my rear rack and the small front. I really
 like the looks of the Nitto large, but I never liked the unnecessary bulk.
 In my opinion, the small rack and the tubus are much more stable under load.

 Dave

 On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:22:16 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I've been looking for pictures of a Hilsen with the large front rack
 (see, there's this sale going on), and I wonder how it all comes together.
 Can I use the upper eyelets on the fork, or will I be forced to use the
 clamps? How does it work with the SKS longboard mounting hardware? Etc, etc.

 Any tips?

 cc

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

2013-07-19 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi cc,
There's an old thread from 12/2008 (Subject: HELP - install Nitto Big 
Front Rack): 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/hm48Y3aiEl4

But... it could depend on your particular build. It seems like some 
production models change ever so slightly, which means YMMV.

Anyway, the relevant text:

Hi Everyone-- 

Just to provide more supporting information, I tried to fit the Nitto 
Big Front Rack on my 700c A. Homer Hilsen today and was unable to get 
it mounted using the mid-fork braze-ons.  I was told, however, that 
the rack fits fine using the braze-ons on the 650b models.  It sounds 
like 26/650b are ok but 700c is problematic. 

Bummer. 




On Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:22:16 AM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I've been looking for pictures of a Hilsen with the large front rack (see, 
 there's this sale going on), and I wonder how it all comes together. Can I 
 use the upper eyelets on the fork, or will I be forced to use the clamps? 
 How does it work with the SKS longboard mounting hardware? Etc, etc.

 Any tips?

 cc

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