[RBW] Re: Once upon a ride... (a Homage to Ray Hosler Cycling Adventures.)
I was out exploring a new route near the house one day. I was seeking an out-of-the-place for a micro-tour. To my delight, the paved county road turned to gravel, and the gravel turned to dirt, and the dirt turned into double track. I was thrilled. It appeared that not only would I find my nice solitary place, it would also be very close to home. It would be my time constrained go-to. At the top of a short, steep rise, I found a large flat rock. It was perfect place to sit a brew some coffee. I set up my gear, and reveled in the quiet. Things were going so well that I decided to take out a little homemade device that would sit atop my Kelly Kettle...and warm Pop Tarts. I've got one Pop Tart on the device, another just-warmed Pop Tart in one hand, and a fancy cup of coffee with flowers on the side in my other hand. It was perhaps the most goofiest of my goofy moments...when I hear the jeep. I see the rancher with dog in the back come up the steep rise, looks left, sees me, double takes, and his jaw drops. He didn't look happy. I don't think he was expecting what he saw. He slammed on the brakes, cut the engine and stares me down. Then he says, Just what do you think you are doing here?! It didn't take me long to figure out I was in a fix. So I used my goofiness to my advantage. Out exploring, and having a snack, I said, like maybe that's what we both were doing. He told me I was on private property. I apologized, respectfully and appropriately called him sir, and told him that I was just following the road and hadn't come across any signs or fences, and that I'd pack up and leave. He smiled and said, Okay, take your time. Nice day, isn't it? Then I turned the event (leaving out certain details) into an instructional blog post on micro-touring... http://chris-pondero.blogspot.com/2009/12/coffee-camp-pop-tart-smoke-out.html ...and that's what happened when I found myself accidentally on private property, and the owner caught me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Once upon a ride... (a Homage to Ray Hosler Cycling Adventures.)
In some cases (apparently there are quite a few in the Bay Area, reading Ray Hosler's various reports and also some other reports) there are at times rights of way through private property. The landowner may not understand that or may understand it and still try to keep people from exercising the right of way. They may erect fences with gates across the right of way that are illegal and/or misleading. Minnesota and Wisconsin have various access laws for hunting and fishing; there are requirements for property owners to post no trespassing signs to notify those seeking access. Without proper posting, legal access can be assumed. I don't know if any of this applies to Manny's or Pondero's rides. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Once upon a ride... (a Homage to Ray Hosler Cycling Adventures.)
I was indoctrinated at a very young age not to trespass onto private property. My dad had many stories from his youth (he was raised on a farm near Tulare, CA) of shooting trespassers with rock salt. No questions asked. It was family policy... you see someone you don't know on the farm, you shoot them with the rock salt. It was a relatively small family farm though, not a ranch with hills, trees, and a road system. It was more a situation that the trespassers were there to steal crops. I can't imagine cow theft by bicycle is very common. All that said... I have a friend (no, it's not me) who loves to fish lowland ponds (I do like to fish but I prefer high mtn lakes). Many of the ponds in Western WA are on private land. He regularly trespasses to fish these ponds. He's been caught several times. His default is to play dumb. He's charming in a nerdy sort of way that you might not expect from a trespassing fisherman. It works for him. If I do find myself in a trespassing situation, I'm already committed to the play dumb strategy. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3c--xu0q6tIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Once upon a ride... (a Homage to Ray Hosler Cycling Adventures.)
I'm surprised you didn't take THIS bike :) Those trails look perfect but I really didn't need to see these right now! You just added fuel to the move-back-to-california fire. Iv'e been shot at (rock salt) as a kid digging up BMX jumps on neighboring land so I'm a little timid trespassing. Particularly if I'm on my own! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XaYJoe2jKokJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Once upon a ride... (a Homage to Ray Hosler Cycling Adventures.)
Oops THIS bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/6664794655/in/set-72157628787994115/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TeBB95HwTdMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
