[RBW] Re: One reason I love my Sam Hillborne

2014-06-29 Thread hsmitham
Well with two Sam's I may need to just start calling you Sam. Looking forward 
to the new build. 

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: One reason I love my Sam Hillborne

2014-06-28 Thread Bruce Smitham
Great to hear how much you love your Sam. I have one built up and love it so 
much that I bought another one. I will set them up differently so that one 
(56cm with single TT) is a little faster with fewer racks and 35mm Schwalbe 
Supremes and the other (56cm with double TT) with Bruce Gordon Rock  Roads and 
Nitto big front and rear racks. Here is a pic the way it's set up now and I 
think it's the best bike out of dozens that I've owned.
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 7:58:35 AM UTC+2, John Stowe wrote:
 I also use Strava (why does that feel like a confession?), but more because I 
 find it interesting to look back at my mileage - the only social thing I've 
 done on the site is join the OCCUPYSTRAVA group, which was started as a 
 reaction to Strava's heat map showing fitness and training routes much more 
 clearly than common transportation routes. I'm really hoping that the odd 
 subset of bike traffic data doesn't get misused as the definitive guide to 
 where folks ride. I'm doing a capstone project for my master's degree in 
 urban planning that may help point to just how much traffic Strava might be 
 missing (still with major caveats, of course).
 
 
 I can't say I've tracked my performance as closely as you, but the move from 
 my former aluminum CX bike to my Sam worked out about the same: maybe a 
 minute or two over the course of my relatively flat 45 minute commute, even 
 though the Sam weighs 10 pounds more. The big difference I notice is the much 
 greater wind exposure when I'm sitting up behind the Sam's Bosco Bullmoose 
 bars, but hunkering down in the flat part helps some - and of course it's an 
 advantage in a tailwind! At this point I ride the Sam for 99% of my riding, 
 since it's so much nicer to ride. Of course, I did build it to do what I 
 need: front and rear racks (for some reason mine is the only bike I ever see 
 parked at Costco), dynamo lights, Bosco Bullmoose bars to get around the baby 
 seat and let me ride in a suit, and of course the great ride and great looks. 
 The CX bike only really comes out when the Sam is out of commission, or if 
 I'm headed to an unknown/potentially sketchy part of town (Washington, DC) 
 where the Sam would stand out as a theft target, or in the winter when it 
 gets studded tires and becomes the snow bike (in DC, only a few really bad 
 days each winter).
 
 
 Yay for the Sam, and yay for Riv helping me with an un-warranty issue even 
 though I wasn't the original owner! (a story for another day)
 
 -J
 
 
 On Friday, June 27, 2014 12:04:11 AM UTC-4, Paul Y wrote:
 I am probably more of a Strava user than most of you on the board. There is a 
 big wannabe-racer character in me. That said, almost 2 years ago I sold my 
 23mm road bike and the Sam Hillborne became my only roadish bike.
 
 
 Most of my rides get logged on Strava so I generally know where I am 
 performance-wise. This morning I put a really hard effort in on the local 
 road climb with the Hillborne. It's roughly a 43 minute climb for me. I came 
 roughly 1:15 slower than my personal record, which I had made on a modern 
 road racer clipped in, clad in spandex, heart rate monitor et al. That's 
 about 3% slower riding in a t-shirt, casual shorts, sneakers, equipped with 
 dyno lighting, kickstand and Sackville bar bag. No doubt the Hillborne is a 
 beast compared to the sub 9kg road bike I sold. It offers comfort of another 
 caliber of course - but that's another story. 
 
 
 3% slower up a 700m climb, riding both bikes at fast-as-possible effort. I 
 think that's a remarkably small penalty to be on such a stately machine!
 
 
 I really, really love my Rivendell.

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[RBW] Re: One reason I love my Sam Hillborne

2014-06-27 Thread Tony Lockhart
Good to hear! Just think of how much extra energy you're using to power 
that Sam up the hill. You're probably considerably stronger if you're 
normally putting out this kind of effort.

FWIW, I've had my Sam for about 4 years and it's always been my favorite 
bike. Other bikes have come and gone, however it's definitely the one bike 
that comfortable/fun/versatile enough to keep for the long haul.

Tony




On Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:04:11 PM UTC-7, Paul Y wrote:

 I am probably more of a Strava user than most of you on the board. There 
 is a big wannabe-racer character in me. That said, almost 2 years ago I 
 sold my 23mm road bike and the Sam Hillborne became my only roadish bike.

 Most of my rides get logged on Strava so I generally know where I am 
 performance-wise. This morning I put a really hard effort 
 http://www.strava.com/activities/158623274 in on the local road climb 
 with the Hillborne. It's roughly a 43 minute climb for me. I came roughly 
 1:15 slower than my personal record 
 http://www.strava.com/activities/23765457#3643957048, which I had made 
 on a modern road racer clipped in, clad in spandex, heart rate monitor et 
 al. That's about *3%* slower riding in a t-shirt, casual shorts, 
 sneakers, equipped with dyno lighting, kickstand and Sackville bar bag. No 
 doubt the Hillborne is a beast compared to the sub 9kg road bike 
 http://www.bikepedia.com/quickbike/BikeSpecs.aspx?year=2007brand=Feltmodel=F55
  
 I sold. It offers comfort of another caliber of course - but that's another 
 story. 

 *3% slower up a 700m climb, riding both bikes at fast-as-possible effort.* I 
 think that's a remarkably small penalty to be on such a stately machine!

 I really, really love my Rivendell.


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[RBW] Re: One reason I love my Sam Hillborne

2014-06-27 Thread John Stowe
I also use Strava (why does that feel like a confession?), but more because 
I find it interesting to look back at my mileage - the only social thing 
I've done on the site is join the OCCUPYSTRAVA 
http://www.strava.com/clubs/occupystrava group, which was started as a 
reaction to Strava's heat map http://labs.strava.com/heatmap showing 
fitness and training routes much more clearly than common transportation 
routes. I'm really hoping that the odd subset of bike traffic data doesn't 
get misused as the definitive guide to where folks ride. I'm doing a 
capstone project for my master's degree in urban planning that may help 
point to just how much traffic Strava might be missing (still with major 
caveats, of course).

I can't say I've tracked my performance as closely as you, but the move 
from my former aluminum CX bike to my Sam worked out about the same: maybe 
a minute or two over the course of my relatively flat 45 minute commute, 
even though the Sam weighs 10 pounds more. The big difference I notice is 
the much greater wind exposure when I'm sitting up behind the Sam's Bosco 
Bullmoose bars, but hunkering down in the flat part helps some - and of 
course it's an advantage in a tailwind! At this point I ride the Sam for 
99% of my riding, since it's so much nicer to ride. Of course, I did build 
it to do what I need: front and rear racks (for some reason mine is the 
only bike I ever see parked at Costco), dynamo lights, Bosco Bullmoose bars 
to get around the baby seat and let me ride in a suit, and of course the 
great ride and great looks. The CX bike only really comes out when the Sam 
is out of commission, or if I'm headed to an unknown/potentially sketchy 
part of town (Washington, DC) where the Sam would stand out as a theft 
target, or in the winter when it gets studded tires and becomes the snow 
bike (in DC, only a few really bad days each winter).

Yay for the Sam, and yay for Riv helping me with an un-warranty issue 
even though I wasn't the original owner! (a story for another day)
-J


On Friday, June 27, 2014 12:04:11 AM UTC-4, Paul Y wrote:

 I am probably more of a Strava user than most of you on the board. There 
 is a big wannabe-racer character in me. That said, almost 2 years ago I 
 sold my 23mm road bike and the Sam Hillborne became my only roadish bike.

 Most of my rides get logged on Strava so I generally know where I am 
 performance-wise. This morning I put a really hard effort 
 http://www.strava.com/activities/158623274 in on the local road climb 
 with the Hillborne. It's roughly a 43 minute climb for me. I came roughly 
 1:15 slower than my personal record 
 http://www.strava.com/activities/23765457#3643957048, which I had made 
 on a modern road racer clipped in, clad in spandex, heart rate monitor et 
 al. That's about *3%* slower riding in a t-shirt, casual shorts, 
 sneakers, equipped with dyno lighting, kickstand and Sackville bar bag. No 
 doubt the Hillborne is a beast compared to the sub 9kg road bike 
 http://www.bikepedia.com/quickbike/BikeSpecs.aspx?year=2007brand=Feltmodel=F55
  
 I sold. It offers comfort of another caliber of course - but that's another 
 story. 

 *3% slower up a 700m climb, riding both bikes at fast-as-possible effort.* I 
 think that's a remarkably small penalty to be on such a stately machine!

 I really, really love my Rivendell.


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