[RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-04-05 Thread Karl
Ha! Thanks David I need some Marie Kondo for my tools, but the 
important things are organized! I'll trade my workspace for your beautiful 
riding any day!

Karl
(Rainy) Nashville, TN

On Friday, April 5, 2019 at 2:40:49 AM UTC-5, Hetchins52 wrote:
>
> Love your work space: Clean floor, light-colored walls, even lighting... 
> combined with a wine cellar!!
> Of course, the bike is great, too!
>
> Working in cramped, dingy darkness,
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley, CA
>
> On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 4:33:52 PM UTC-7, Karl wrote:
>>
>> Attached is a pic of my single color mountain. Love all the interest in 
>> one of my favorite Rivendell bikes!
>>
>> Karl
>> Nashville, TN
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-04-05 Thread 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch
Love your work space: Clean floor, light-colored walls, even lighting... 
combined with a wine cellar!!
Of course, the bike is great, too!

Working in cramped, dingy darkness,
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 4:33:52 PM UTC-7, Karl wrote:
>
> Attached is a pic of my single color mountain. Love all the interest in 
> one of my favorite Rivendell bikes!
>
> Karl
> Nashville, TN
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Re: [RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-04-04 Thread RonaTD
On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 2:07:42 AM UTC-5, Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
> How wide a tire would these mtbs fit, is 2.35 possible, Thanks Steve
>
>
I have managed to stuff 2.25 Schwalbe Winter Marthons under fenders on mine 
... just barely! Currently it has Rat Trap Pass tires and no fenders, which 
clear pretty easily, but fenders are again a tight squeeze.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-04-04 Thread RonaTD
On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 6:59:43 PM UTC-5, John McBurney wrote:
>
> How does this bike compare to the Bombadil?  Just eyeballing it, it seems 
> similar  
>

The Bombadil has more BB drop, shallower head tube angle, a bit more fork 
rake, somewhat longer chain stays, 584 and 622 rim diameters, and double 
top tube in all but the smallest size.

Other than that...

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI

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[RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-04-04 Thread RonaTD
On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 9:52:58 AM UTC-5, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> Not sure who sent me this one - 
>

That would be me :-)

Ted Durant
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[RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-04-04 Thread Eric Karnes
I really like the looks of the GBW, but this well might be my dream bike. 
Man. That. Is. Beautiful.

Eric

On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 3:25:43 PM UTC-7, Christopher Cote wrote:
>>
>> All this discussion around the GBW, plus my recent interest in older 26" 
>> wheel bikes (a lugged Trek 930 and now an Atlantis) reminded me of the 
>> mountain bike listed in the early Riv catalogs and Readers. In RR #3, Grant 
>> talks about the mountain bike, including a "D/M model" that that is 
>> designed around dirt drops with a 50mm longer headtube, and presumably a 
>> sloping top tube (maybe just an extended head tube above the TT?). My 
>> question is, were any of these made? Any pics online of these beasts? 
>>
>>
> I thought I had another image or two of RBW Mountain models - this is the 
> only one I can lay my hands on this AM
>
> Not sure who sent me this one - Will keep an eye out for the other one 
> that crossed my desk.
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-04-04 Thread John McBurney
How does this bike compare to the Bombadil?  Just eyeballing it, it seems
similar

John

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 7:40 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Interestingly the rarest original Riv looks most like the current ones.
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[RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-04-04 Thread Joe Bernard
Interestingly the rarest original Riv looks most like the current ones. 

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[RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-04-04 Thread Cyclofiend Jim


On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 3:25:43 PM UTC-7, Christopher Cote wrote:
>
> All this discussion around the GBW, plus my recent interest in older 26" 
> wheel bikes (a lugged Trek 930 and now an Atlantis) reminded me of the 
> mountain bike listed in the early Riv catalogs and Readers. In RR #3, Grant 
> talks about the mountain bike, including a "D/M model" that that is 
> designed around dirt drops with a 50mm longer headtube, and presumably a 
> sloping top tube (maybe just an extended head tube above the TT?). My 
> question is, were any of these made? Any pics online of these beasts? 
>
>
I thought I had another image or two of RBW Mountain models - this is the 
only one I can lay my hands on this AM

Not sure who sent me this one - Will keep an eye out for the other one that 
crossed my desk.
 

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[RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-04-04 Thread Christopher Cote
Reginald, I'd love to see pics of your bike. 25 years ago, the cream headtube 
was really special, but now when I see an early Riv in one color, I think they 
look really understated and classy. Perfect for a Riv MTB, IMHO. 

Chris

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Re: [RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-04-04 Thread Steven Sweedler
How wide a tire would these mtbs fit, is 2.35 possible, Thanks Steve

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 9:59 AM R. Alexis  wrote:

> I have a Rivendell Mountain also. It was supposed to have it's own
> proprietary lug set. Looks like there was not enough interest in the
> Mountain and more in the Road and Allrounder that going with it's own lug
> set was not feasible, so they used the Allrounder lugs with stouter tubing,
> sloping top tube and vertical dropouts along with different geometry.
>
> My Rivendell Mountain is all silver built with a mix of SunTour XC-Pro and
> Wilderness Trail Bike parts. It has Scott AT-3 bars with Softride
> suspension stem and Thudbuster suspension seatpost. Went with the
> suspension stem and post because I was into Softride Beam bikes. Sometimes
> wish I would have splurged for the cream contrasting headtube. Got it
> because I longed for an MB-1. Went with silver on short moment notice when
> I was called about it. Rivendell must have been wrapping up production
> there and needed the color solidified to finish things up. Will try to get
> some picks of it and post.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 9:59:16 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote:
>>
>> The link provided shows an All Rounder, which is not the same as the
>> mountain bike. The mountain bike was going to use a fork crown that would
>> look like a lugged unicrown, but the fork blade bends that were required
>> proved to be to difficult.
>>
>> I have a Riv MTB made by Waterford, using the All Rounder fork. The
>> geometry is very similar to a Bridgestone MB-0/1.
>>
>> https://flickr.com/photos/7627416@N06/sets/72157628554831513
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI
>>
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[RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-04-04 Thread R. Alexis
I have a Rivendell Mountain also. It was supposed to have it's own 
proprietary lug set. Looks like there was not enough interest in the 
Mountain and more in the Road and Allrounder that going with it's own lug 
set was not feasible, so they used the Allrounder lugs with stouter tubing, 
sloping top tube and vertical dropouts along with different geometry. 

My Rivendell Mountain is all silver built with a mix of SunTour XC-Pro and 
Wilderness Trail Bike parts. It has Scott AT-3 bars with Softride 
suspension stem and Thudbuster suspension seatpost. Went with the 
suspension stem and post because I was into Softride Beam bikes. Sometimes 
wish I would have splurged for the cream contrasting headtube. Got it 
because I longed for an MB-1. Went with silver on short moment notice when 
I was called about it. Rivendell must have been wrapping up production 
there and needed the color solidified to finish things up. Will try to get 
some picks of it and post. 

Thanks,

Reginald Alexis

On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 9:59:16 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote:
>
> The link provided shows an All Rounder, which is not the same as the 
> mountain bike. The mountain bike was going to use a fork crown that would 
> look like a lugged unicrown, but the fork blade bends that were required 
> proved to be to difficult. 
>
> I have a Riv MTB made by Waterford, using the All Rounder fork. The 
> geometry is very similar to a Bridgestone MB-0/1. 
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/7627416@N06/sets/72157628554831513
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-04-01 Thread Patrick Moore
I wouldn't mind owning that bike!

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:21 PM Benz, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:

> So what's the difference, other than lugs? I ask because I have an old
> Rivendell that looks like yours, and I always thought it was an AR.
>
> [image: 28497552804_43723635eb_z.jpg]
>
>
> On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:59:16 PM UTC-7, RonaTD wrote:
>>
>> The link provided shows an All Rounder, which is not the same as the
>> mountain bike. The mountain bike was going to use a fork crown that would
>> look like a lugged unicrown, but the fork blade bends that were required
>> proved to be to difficult.
>>
>> I have a Riv MTB made by Waterford, using the All Rounder fork. The
>> geometry is very similar to a Bridgestone MB-0/1.
>>
>> https://flickr.com/photos/7627416@N06/sets/72157628554831513
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI
>>
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[RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-03-31 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 8:46:26 PM UTC-7, RonaTD wrote:
>
> On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 8:21:48 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: 
> > So what's the difference, other than lugs? I ask because I have an old 
> Rivendell that looks like yours, and I always thought it was an AR. 
>
> That’s a beautiful bike! 
>
> My recollection is that the original three models, Road, A/R, and D/M, 
> were modeled after the Bridgestone RB, XO, and MB models, respectively, in 
> terms of geometry and tubing selection. My D/M is definitely “stout”, has 
> very little BB drop, a lot of top tube rise, lots of tire clearance (though 
> I wish it had a bit more for fender clearance), high trail front end. And, 
> in stark contrast to the direction Grant has gone since those early days, 
> it has what Riv might now consider comically short chain stays. 
>
> One detail difference is that my D/M has vertical rear dropouts, while 
> most A/Rs I think used horizontals.


Ah! That last detail may establish the identity, since mine has horizontal 
rear dropouts (which is a pain when fendering the bike).

Thank you!

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[RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-03-31 Thread RonaTD
On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 8:21:48 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
> So what's the difference, other than lugs? I ask because I have an old 
> Rivendell that looks like yours, and I always thought it was an AR.

That’s a beautiful bike!

My recollection is that the original three models, Road, A/R, and D/M, were 
modeled after the Bridgestone RB, XO, and MB models, respectively, in terms of 
geometry and tubing selection. My D/M is definitely “stout”, has very little BB 
drop, a lot of top tube rise, lots of tire clearance (though I wish it had a 
bit more for fender clearance), high trail front end. And, in stark contrast to 
the direction Grant has gone since those early days, it has what Riv might now 
consider comically short chain stays.

One detail difference is that my D/M has vertical rear dropouts, while most 
A/Rs I think used horizontals.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI

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[RBW] Re: Original Rivendell Mountain Bike

2019-03-31 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
So what's the difference, other than lugs? I ask because I have an old 
Rivendell that looks like yours, and I always thought it was an AR.

[image: 28497552804_43723635eb_z.jpg]


On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:59:16 PM UTC-7, RonaTD wrote:
>
> The link provided shows an All Rounder, which is not the same as the 
> mountain bike. The mountain bike was going to use a fork crown that would 
> look like a lugged unicrown, but the fork blade bends that were required 
> proved to be to difficult. 
>
> I have a Riv MTB made by Waterford, using the All Rounder fork. The 
> geometry is very similar to a Bridgestone MB-0/1. 
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/7627416@N06/sets/72157628554831513
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI
>
>

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