Re: [RBW] Re: Ortlieb Rollers!!!!

2013-11-15 Thread Bertin753
I have the rears.

Patrick Moore
iPhone

 On Nov 14, 2013, at 5:18 PM, bwphoto bwphotograph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Patrick
 Which rollers do you have, front or back? I'm trying the decide between the 
 two.
 
 On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:53:12 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
 I traded a jaded pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses with fellow lister Joe Broach 
 for a pristine pair of Ortlieb Rollers, 'cuz I don't need high end camping 
 luggage, I need high end grocery luggage. I used them for the first time 
 this afternoon, to carry 35 lb of groceries, and mail to Mom.
 
 I have a pair of Banjo Bros Market Panniers, which are very large and 
 certainly not bad for the $50/ea price. But MAN! -- those Rollers are 
 NICE!!! So easy to attach to the Fly! So easy to remove! So carefully 
 designed! So elegant in operation!
 
 I hauled them into Sprouts this afternoon and shoved them onto the conveyor 
 belt along with my fruit and veg and meat and such. The girl bagger said, 
 Unusual! and I agreed.
 
 35 lb, and they are hardly more than 2/3 full if even that. I bet that I can 
 get two/2/II/dos/deux/do/mbili full paper sacks in each, if I wanted to and 
 if my Fly and my Ram (OT content) could carry such weight.
 
 Oh: and riding the Ram for the first time in weeks, I was once again struck 
 by how easy multiple gears make climbing steep hills with heavy loads. 
 Hoooda Thunk?
 
 Patrick Moore, tripping on Rollers, in ABQ, NM
 
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[RBW] Re: Ortlieb Rollers!!!!

2013-11-14 Thread bwphoto
Patrick
Which rollers do you have, front or back? I'm trying the decide between the 
two.

On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:53:12 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I traded a jaded pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses with fellow lister Joe 
 Broach for a pristine pair of Ortlieb Rollers, 'cuz I don't need high end 
 camping luggage, I need high end grocery luggage. I used them for the first 
 time this afternoon, to carry 35 lb of groceries, and mail to Mom.

 I have a pair of Banjo Bros Market Panniers, which are very large and 
 certainly not bad for the $50/ea price. But MAN! -- those Rollers are 
 NICE!!! So easy to attach to the Fly! So easy to remove! So carefully 
 designed! So elegant in operation!

 I hauled them into Sprouts this afternoon and shoved them onto the 
 conveyor belt along with my fruit and veg and meat and such. The girl 
 bagger said, Unusual! and I agreed.

 35 lb, and they are hardly more than 2/3 full if even that. I bet that I 
 can get two/2/II/dos/deux/do/mbili full paper sacks in each, if I wanted to 
 and if my Fly and my Ram (OT content) could carry such weight.

 Oh: and riding the Ram for the first time in weeks, I was once again 
 struck by how easy multiple gears make climbing steep hills with heavy 
 loads. Hoooda Thunk?

 Patrick Moore, tripping on Rollers, in ABQ, NM

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[RBW] Re: Ortlieb Rollers!!!!

2013-11-09 Thread IanA
Good to hear Patrick!  

Personally I like the Rollers for all activities - they're just simple, 
elegant in design and remarkably resilient to abuse.

Ian A
Canada. 

On Friday, November 8, 2013 4:53:12 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I traded a jaded pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses with fellow lister Joe 
 Broach for a pristine pair of Ortlieb Rollers, 'cuz I don't need high end 
 camping luggage, I need high end grocery luggage. I used them for the first 
 time this afternoon, to carry 35 lb of groceries, and mail to Mom.

 I have a pair of Banjo Bros Market Panniers, which are very large and 
 certainly not bad for the $50/ea price. But MAN! -- those Rollers are 
 NICE!!! So easy to attach to the Fly! So easy to remove! So carefully 
 designed! So elegant in operation!

 I hauled them into Sprouts this afternoon and shoved them onto the 
 conveyor belt along with my fruit and veg and meat and such. The girl 
 bagger said, Unusual! and I agreed.

 35 lb, and they are hardly more than 2/3 full if even that. I bet that I 
 can get two/2/II/dos/deux/do/mbili full paper sacks in each, if I wanted to 
 and if my Fly and my Ram (OT content) could carry such weight.

 Oh: and riding the Ram for the first time in weeks, I was once again 
 struck by how easy multiple gears make climbing steep hills with heavy 
 loads. Hoooda Thunk?

 Patrick Moore, tripping on Rollers, in ABQ, NM

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[RBW] Re: Ortlieb Rollers!!!!

2013-11-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ron,

I've been contemplating the Carsick Design panniers for under my Large 
SaddleSack (in which case a daughter would get the TourSacks), but wondered 
how well they would fit? Essentially, I would only pack things in there I 
need to access at the end of the day, not while on the road/trail. So I 
just need them to physically fit and easily mount under the SaddleSack. I'd 
access stuff by taking them off. Any thoughts or experience appreciated.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:34:30 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

 I like my rollers, too - I have waxed canvas from Carsick Designs.  

 On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:53:12 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I traded a jaded pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses with fellow lister Joe 
 Broach for a pristine pair of Ortlieb Rollers, 'cuz I don't need high end 
 camping luggage, I need high end grocery luggage. I used them for the first 
 time this afternoon, to carry 35 lb of groceries, and mail to Mom.

 I have a pair of Banjo Bros Market Panniers, which are very large and 
 certainly not bad for the $50/ea price. But MAN! -- those Rollers are 
 NICE!!! So easy to attach to the Fly! So easy to remove! So carefully 
 designed! So elegant in operation!

 I hauled them into Sprouts this afternoon and shoved them onto the 
 conveyor belt along with my fruit and veg and meat and such. The girl 
 bagger said, Unusual! and I agreed.

 35 lb, and they are hardly more than 2/3 full if even that. I bet that I 
 can get two/2/II/dos/deux/do/mbili full paper sacks in each, if I wanted to 
 and if my Fly and my Ram (OT content) could carry such weight.

 Oh: and riding the Ram for the first time in weeks, I was once again 
 struck by how easy multiple gears make climbing steep hills with heavy 
 loads. Hoooda Thunk?

 Patrick Moore, tripping on Rollers, in ABQ, NM

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[RBW] Re: Ortlieb Rollers!!!!

2013-11-09 Thread Ron Mc
Hi Deac, 
how about this?  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aP9160004.jpg

I love the end pockets on these - fit a rod tube, water and fuel bottles, 
etc.  


On Saturday, November 9, 2013 6:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Ron,

 I've been contemplating the Carsick Design panniers for under my Large 
 SaddleSack (in which case a daughter would get the TourSacks), but wondered 
 how well they would fit? Essentially, I would only pack things in there I 
 need to access at the end of the day, not while on the road/trail. So I 
 just need them to physically fit and easily mount under the SaddleSack. I'd 
 access stuff by taking them off. Any thoughts or experience appreciated.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:34:30 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

 I like my rollers, too - I have waxed canvas from Carsick Designs.  

 On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:53:12 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I traded a jaded pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses with fellow lister Joe 
 Broach for a pristine pair of Ortlieb Rollers, 'cuz I don't need high end 
 camping luggage, I need high end grocery luggage. I used them for the first 
 time this afternoon, to carry 35 lb of groceries, and mail to Mom.

 I have a pair of Banjo Bros Market Panniers, which are very large and 
 certainly not bad for the $50/ea price. But MAN! -- those Rollers are 
 NICE!!! So easy to attach to the Fly! So easy to remove! So carefully 
 designed! So elegant in operation!

 I hauled them into Sprouts this afternoon and shoved them onto the 
 conveyor belt along with my fruit and veg and meat and such. The girl 
 bagger said, Unusual! and I agreed.

 35 lb, and they are hardly more than 2/3 full if even that. I bet that I 
 can get two/2/II/dos/deux/do/mbili full paper sacks in each, if I wanted to 
 and if my Fly and my Ram (OT content) could carry such weight.

 Oh: and riding the Ram for the first time in weeks, I was once again 
 struck by how easy multiple gears make climbing steep hills with heavy 
 loads. Hoooda Thunk?

 Patrick Moore, tripping on Rollers, in ABQ, NM

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[RBW] Re: Ortlieb Rollers!!!!

2013-11-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, Ron. That is a grand set-up, but I'm wondering if these would fit 
under a large SaddleSack http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassl.htm, which 
would hang out over the top of these. It looks like this rise above the 
rack even lightly loaded, which may or may not be problematic with the 
SaddleSack.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 6:57:06 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

 Hi Deac, 
 how about this?  

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aP9160004.jpg

 I love the end pockets on these - fit a rod tube, water and fuel bottles, 
 etc.  


 On Saturday, November 9, 2013 6:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Ron,

 I've been contemplating the Carsick Design panniers for under my Large 
 SaddleSack (in which case a daughter would get the TourSacks), but wondered 
 how well they would fit? Essentially, I would only pack things in there I 
 need to access at the end of the day, not while on the road/trail. So I 
 just need them to physically fit and easily mount under the SaddleSack. I'd 
 access stuff by taking them off. Any thoughts or experience appreciated.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:34:30 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

 I like my rollers, too - I have waxed canvas from Carsick Designs.  

 On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:53:12 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I traded a jaded pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses with fellow lister Joe 
 Broach for a pristine pair of Ortlieb Rollers, 'cuz I don't need high end 
 camping luggage, I need high end grocery luggage. I used them for the 
 first 
 time this afternoon, to carry 35 lb of groceries, and mail to Mom.

 I have a pair of Banjo Bros Market Panniers, which are very large and 
 certainly not bad for the $50/ea price. But MAN! -- those Rollers are 
 NICE!!! So easy to attach to the Fly! So easy to remove! So carefully 
 designed! So elegant in operation!

 I hauled them into Sprouts this afternoon and shoved them onto the 
 conveyor belt along with my fruit and veg and meat and such. The girl 
 bagger said, Unusual! and I agreed.

 35 lb, and they are hardly more than 2/3 full if even that. I bet that 
 I can get two/2/II/dos/deux/do/mbili full paper sacks in each, if I wanted 
 to and if my Fly and my Ram (OT content) could carry such weight.

 Oh: and riding the Ram for the first time in weeks, I was once again 
 struck by how easy multiple gears make climbing steep hills with heavy 
 loads. Hoooda Thunk?

 Patrick Moore, tripping on Rollers, in ABQ, NM

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[RBW] Re: Ortlieb Rollers!!!!

2013-11-09 Thread Ron Mc
that's one big sack.  Sent me to tinker with mine.  Can definitely roll 
them flush with the top of the rack, and they hang and secure perfectly. 
 He will sew on a low external pocket if you need more room.  

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 9:10:30 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Thanks, Ron. That is a grand set-up, but I'm wondering if these would fit 
 under a large SaddleSack http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassl.htm, 
 which would hang out over the top of these. It looks like this rise above 
 the rack even lightly loaded, which may or may not be problematic with the 
 SaddleSack.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Saturday, November 9, 2013 6:57:06 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

 Hi Deac, 
 how about this?  

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aP9160004.jpg

 I love the end pockets on these - fit a rod tube, water and fuel bottles, 
 etc.  


 On Saturday, November 9, 2013 6:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Ron,

 I've been contemplating the Carsick Design panniers for under my Large 
 SaddleSack (in which case a daughter would get the TourSacks), but wondered 
 how well they would fit? Essentially, I would only pack things in there I 
 need to access at the end of the day, not while on the road/trail. So I 
 just need them to physically fit and easily mount under the SaddleSack. I'd 
 access stuff by taking them off. Any thoughts or experience appreciated.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:34:30 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

 I like my rollers, too - I have waxed canvas from Carsick Designs.  

 On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:53:12 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I traded a jaded pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses with fellow lister Joe 
 Broach for a pristine pair of Ortlieb Rollers, 'cuz I don't need high end 
 camping luggage, I need high end grocery luggage. I used them for the 
 first 
 time this afternoon, to carry 35 lb of groceries, and mail to Mom.

 I have a pair of Banjo Bros Market Panniers, which are very large and 
 certainly not bad for the $50/ea price. But MAN! -- those Rollers are 
 NICE!!! So easy to attach to the Fly! So easy to remove! So carefully 
 designed! So elegant in operation!

 I hauled them into Sprouts this afternoon and shoved them onto the 
 conveyor belt along with my fruit and veg and meat and such. The girl 
 bagger said, Unusual! and I agreed.

 35 lb, and they are hardly more than 2/3 full if even that. I bet that 
 I can get two/2/II/dos/deux/do/mbili full paper sacks in each, if I 
 wanted 
 to and if my Fly and my Ram (OT content) could carry such weight.

 Oh: and riding the Ram for the first time in weeks, I was once again 
 struck by how easy multiple gears make climbing steep hills with heavy 
 loads. Hoooda Thunk?

 Patrick Moore, tripping on Rollers, in ABQ, NM

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[RBW] Re: Ortlieb Rollers!!!!

2013-11-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Great to know. Thanks, Ron!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 8:52:36 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

 that's one big sack.  Sent me to tinker with mine.  Can definitely roll 
 them flush with the top of the rack, and they hang and secure perfectly. 
  He will sew on a low external pocket if you need more room.  

 On Saturday, November 9, 2013 9:10:30 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Thanks, Ron. That is a grand set-up, but I'm wondering if these would fit 
 under a large SaddleSack http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassl.htm, 
 which would hang out over the top of these. It looks like this rise above 
 the rack even lightly loaded, which may or may not be problematic with the 
 SaddleSack.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Saturday, November 9, 2013 6:57:06 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

 Hi Deac, 
 how about this?  


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aP9160004.jpg

 I love the end pockets on these - fit a rod tube, water and fuel 
 bottles, etc.  


 On Saturday, November 9, 2013 6:54:25 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Ron,

 I've been contemplating the Carsick Design panniers for under my Large 
 SaddleSack (in which case a daughter would get the TourSacks), but 
 wondered 
 how well they would fit? Essentially, I would only pack things in there I 
 need to access at the end of the day, not while on the road/trail. So I 
 just need them to physically fit and easily mount under the SaddleSack. 
 I'd 
 access stuff by taking them off. Any thoughts or experience appreciated.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:34:30 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

 I like my rollers, too - I have waxed canvas from Carsick Designs.  

 On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:53:12 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I traded a jaded pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses with fellow lister Joe 
 Broach for a pristine pair of Ortlieb Rollers, 'cuz I don't need high 
 end 
 camping luggage, I need high end grocery luggage. I used them for the 
 first 
 time this afternoon, to carry 35 lb of groceries, and mail to Mom.

 I have a pair of Banjo Bros Market Panniers, which are very large and 
 certainly not bad for the $50/ea price. But MAN! -- those Rollers are 
 NICE!!! So easy to attach to the Fly! So easy to remove! So carefully 
 designed! So elegant in operation!

 I hauled them into Sprouts this afternoon and shoved them onto the 
 conveyor belt along with my fruit and veg and meat and such. The girl 
 bagger said, Unusual! and I agreed.

 35 lb, and they are hardly more than 2/3 full if even that. I bet 
 that I can get two/2/II/dos/deux/do/mbili full paper sacks in each, if I 
 wanted to and if my Fly and my Ram (OT content) could carry such weight.

 Oh: and riding the Ram for the first time in weeks, I was once again 
 struck by how easy multiple gears make climbing steep hills with heavy 
 loads. Hoooda Thunk?

 Patrick Moore, tripping on Rollers, in ABQ, NM

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[RBW] Re: Ortlieb Rollers!!!!

2013-11-09 Thread Coconutbill
Patrick, 

the Carsick Bags will work just fine under your toursack. While they worked 
fine on the top rack beam (because I could still roll em up), I  found that 
if I tightened the elastic do-dad, I could then hang them off the lower 
rack beam... no problem under a saddlebag.


On Friday, November 8, 2013 3:53:12 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I traded a jaded pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses with fellow lister Joe 
 Broach for a pristine pair of Ortlieb Rollers, 'cuz I don't need high end 
 camping luggage, I need high end grocery luggage. I used them for the first 
 time this afternoon, to carry 35 lb of groceries, and mail to Mom.

 I have a pair of Banjo Bros Market Panniers, which are very large and 
 certainly not bad for the $50/ea price. But MAN! -- those Rollers are 
 NICE!!! So easy to attach to the Fly! So easy to remove! So carefully 
 designed! So elegant in operation!

 I hauled them into Sprouts this afternoon and shoved them onto the 
 conveyor belt along with my fruit and veg and meat and such. The girl 
 bagger said, Unusual! and I agreed.

 35 lb, and they are hardly more than 2/3 full if even that. I bet that I 
 can get two/2/II/dos/deux/do/mbili full paper sacks in each, if I wanted to 
 and if my Fly and my Ram (OT content) could carry such weight.

 Oh: and riding the Ram for the first time in weeks, I was once again 
 struck by how easy multiple gears make climbing steep hills with heavy 
 loads. Hoooda Thunk?

 Patrick Moore, tripping on Rollers, in ABQ, NM

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[RBW] Re: Ortlieb Rollers!!!!

2013-11-08 Thread Ron Mc
I like my rollers, too - I have waxed canvas from Carsick Designs.  

On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:53:12 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I traded a jaded pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses with fellow lister Joe 
 Broach for a pristine pair of Ortlieb Rollers, 'cuz I don't need high end 
 camping luggage, I need high end grocery luggage. I used them for the first 
 time this afternoon, to carry 35 lb of groceries, and mail to Mom.

 I have a pair of Banjo Bros Market Panniers, which are very large and 
 certainly not bad for the $50/ea price. But MAN! -- those Rollers are 
 NICE!!! So easy to attach to the Fly! So easy to remove! So carefully 
 designed! So elegant in operation!

 I hauled them into Sprouts this afternoon and shoved them onto the 
 conveyor belt along with my fruit and veg and meat and such. The girl 
 bagger said, Unusual! and I agreed.

 35 lb, and they are hardly more than 2/3 full if even that. I bet that I 
 can get two/2/II/dos/deux/do/mbili full paper sacks in each, if I wanted to 
 and if my Fly and my Ram (OT content) could carry such weight.

 Oh: and riding the Ram for the first time in weeks, I was once again 
 struck by how easy multiple gears make climbing steep hills with heavy 
 loads. Hoooda Thunk?

 Patrick Moore, tripping on Rollers, in ABQ, NM

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