Re: [RBW] Re: Play & Slipping with Silver Bar End Shifters

2021-02-07 Thread Den John 
yep, I've been able to get barcons to shift 10 sprockets too. I've also
lost that little domed nut. Fell off on a dark, rainy commute home and I
couldn't find it. I replaced it with a nut from a toe clip which so far
hasn't fallen off.

Cheers,
Johnny

On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 22:22, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I owned 2 or 3 pairs of the original issue Silvers, and fixed the slipping
> with blue Loctite. The bigger problem with the Silvers, in my case, was
> breaking the body when the bike fell over.
>
> I prefer the old Suntour barcons and have built up a small stash. I can
> shift 10 cogs with my right on on only a bit more than 90* of travel (8-sp
> road rd, DA 7401, IIRC), and the shifting is perfectly accurate, and they
> body doesn't break when the bike falls over.
>
> I use blue Loctite on the Suntours too, but only for that easily lost,
> cosmetic, chromed, domed locknut.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 4:22 AM Den John  wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone. I'm in Europe so those Simplex Retrofriction come up
>> every so often on places other than ebay. I'll have a look out for them.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>>
>> On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 04:13, Graham Spencer  wrote:
>>
>>> I had the same issue with mine a decade ago. Never cared for them. My
>>> solution was a used set of simplex retro friction from eBay. They bolt
>>> right on to the pods you have and happily shift my 9spd system smooth as
>>> butter with no slipping, no need for repeat tightening in 10 years. All
>>> with no clicks.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Play & Slipping with Silver Bar End Shifters

2021-02-07 Thread Patrick Moore 
I owned 2 or 3 pairs of the original issue Silvers, and fixed the slipping
with blue Loctite. The bigger problem with the Silvers, in my case, was
breaking the body when the bike fell over.

I prefer the old Suntour barcons and have built up a small stash. I can
shift 10 cogs with my right on on only a bit more than 90* of travel (8-sp
road rd, DA 7401, IIRC), and the shifting is perfectly accurate, and they
body doesn't break when the bike falls over.

I use blue Loctite on the Suntours too, but only for that easily lost,
cosmetic, chromed, domed locknut.


On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 4:22 AM Den John  wrote:

> Thanks everyone. I'm in Europe so those Simplex Retrofriction come up
> every so often on places other than ebay. I'll have a look out for them.
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
> On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 04:13, Graham Spencer  wrote:
>
>> I had the same issue with mine a decade ago. Never cared for them. My
>> solution was a used set of simplex retro friction from eBay. They bolt
>> right on to the pods you have and happily shift my 9spd system smooth as
>> butter with no slipping, no need for repeat tightening in 10 years. All
>> with no clicks.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Play & Slipping with Silver Bar End Shifters

2021-02-07 Thread Den John 
Thanks everyone. I'm in Europe so those Simplex Retrofriction come up every
so often on places other than ebay. I'll have a look out for them.

Cheers,
Johnny

On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 04:13, Graham Spencer  wrote:

> I had the same issue with mine a decade ago. Never cared for them. My
> solution was a used set of simplex retro friction from eBay. They bolt
> right on to the pods you have and happily shift my 9spd system smooth as
> butter with no slipping, no need for repeat tightening in 10 years. All
> with no clicks.
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[RBW] Re: Play & Slipping with Silver Bar End Shifters

2021-02-06 Thread Graham Spencer 
I had the same issue with mine a decade ago. Never cared for them. My 
solution was a used set of simplex retro friction from eBay. They bolt 
right on to the pods you have and happily shift my 9spd system smooth as 
butter with no slipping, no need for repeat tightening in 10 years. All 
with no clicks. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Play & Slipping with Silver Bar End Shifters

2021-02-01 Thread Nat Lichten 
Hi Johnny,

No solutions to suggest, but I had the same irritating issue with a rear
Riv silver shifter running 9 spd shimano mtn rear derailleurs. For me
tightening the thumb screw that held the shifter did help somewhat, but
only temporarily. I was going to try some loctite, but passed the bike on
to someone else before I had a chance.

-Nat in DC

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 11:56 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> OK, it came from a shop, not from Rivendell, but we're assuming that it is
> stuff that's supposed to work together.  That's good
>
> There is no particular Left vs Right.  Either one can serve either role.
>  It's just a matter of whether you want the D-rings on the outside or the
> inside.  Since you've swapped things around liberally, can I assume you've
> already swapped the shifters?  Did they both do equally badly when used for
> the rear der?
>
> Next, please describe the "play".  What does this mean?  Do you mean you
> can wiggle the shifter side to side?  Do you mean you can wiggle the
> shifter in it's normal travel direction and it moves a bit before the cable
> starts moving?
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 8:05:44 AM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have a complete set. It's the right hand shifter that's causing the
>> problem. 9 speed. I have a double chainring on the front with a granny gear
>> and a 36t big ring. This is setup to avoid shifting the front derailleur
>> too often, so I don't use the left hand shifter enough to say if it's got a
>> major problem. I tried a few different derailleurs, mostly variants of
>> Shimano Deore, but the slipping/ghost shifting persisted.
>>
>> The setup is a full Rivendell branded barend shifter set. No cobbling
>> together. I ordered it as a Dia Compe barend shifter set, and the shop I
>> bought it from sent me the Riv set.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 16:27, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> OK one step at a time
>>>
>>> 1. Do you have one Silver Bar end shifter or two?  Do both have a
>>> problem or only one?
>>> 2. Did you buy these Silver Bar end shifters complete from Rivendell
>>> Bicycle Works as bar end shifters?  Or did you or somebody else cobble
>>> together Silver Downtube shifters onto Shimano, or somebody elses bar end
>>> pods?
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:29:59 AM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hello RBWers,

 I've been having problems with a set of older type RBW Silver bar end
 shifters.
 There seems to be a lot of play in the shifters. They've been like this
 out of the box.
 They also slip a  bit in the middle sprockets, ghost shifting from the
 bigger to smaller
 sprocket. Tightening the bolt that holds the shifter lever doesn't make
 much difference,
 even with the bolt done up pretty tight the play and slipping seem to
 persist.

 It seems this is a bit of a known problem with these shifters. Does
 anyone have any suggestions for a remedy for this? E.g. is it possible to
 add an additional washer somewhere?

 Thanks for any help,

 Johnny in Belgium

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Re: [RBW] Re: Play & Slipping with Silver Bar End Shifters

2021-02-01 Thread Den John 
Thanks, the beeswax is an interesting idea. I'll give that a try. (BTW, any
idea if beeswax is a good substitute for anti-seize? I have had a tube of
Shimano anti-seize that's lasted
me about 6 years but it's starting to run out).

I'll also see if any of my other shifters have metal washers. I think I
have some bits of Campagnolo stuff that might do.

Cheers,
Johnny

On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 23:13, John P. in SF  wrote:

> HI
>
> I have had maybe 6 pairs of silvers over the years and not all of them
> slipped, used both as bar end and as dt shifters.
>
> I have solved some of my silver shifter slipping problems by placing a
> thin slice of beeswax in between all the various parts and reassembling. I
> have only had problems with right hand shifters slipping - not sure why,
> and I never thought of swapping the left to right or vice versa. The
> beeswax seems to work for a year or two and then needs refreshing.
>
> I have also used a metal outer washer from a different shifter instead of
> the plastic jobby, and on one stubbornly slipping shifter (gifted to the
> girlfriend, fool that I am) I swapped out the d-ring bold for a regular m5
> bolt so I could torque it down enough to stop the slippage. Then she took
> it to a shop for some maintenance and they took the m5 out and put in a
> d-ring bolt and the shifter started slipping again...she was not happy.
>
> Not all silver shifters slip, but some do and it can be frustrating.
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:29:59 AM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello RBWers,
>>
>> I've been having problems with a set of older type RBW Silver bar end
>> shifters.
>> There seems to be a lot of play in the shifters. They've been like this
>> out of the box.
>> They also slip a  bit in the middle sprockets, ghost shifting from the
>> bigger to smaller
>> sprocket. Tightening the bolt that holds the shifter lever doesn't make
>> much difference,
>> even with the bolt done up pretty tight the play and slipping seem to
>> persist.
>>
>> It seems this is a bit of a known problem with these shifters. Does
>> anyone have any suggestions for a remedy for this? E.g. is it possible to
>> add an additional washer somewhere?
>>
>> Thanks for any help,
>>
>> Johnny in Belgium
>>
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[RBW] Re: Play & Slipping with Silver Bar End Shifters

2021-02-01 Thread John P. in SF 
HI

I have had maybe 6 pairs of silvers over the years and not all of them 
slipped, used both as bar end and as dt shifters.  
 
I have solved some of my silver shifter slipping problems by placing a thin 
slice of beeswax in between all the various parts and reassembling. I have 
only had problems with right hand shifters slipping - not sure why, and I 
never thought of swapping the left to right or vice versa. The beeswax 
seems to work for a year or two and then needs refreshing. 

I have also used a metal outer washer from a different shifter instead of 
the plastic jobby, and on one stubbornly slipping shifter (gifted to the 
girlfriend, fool that I am) I swapped out the d-ring bold for a regular m5 
bolt so I could torque it down enough to stop the slippage. Then she took 
it to a shop for some maintenance and they took the m5 out and put in a 
d-ring bolt and the shifter started slipping again...she was not happy.

Not all silver shifters slip, but some do and it can be frustrating.

On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:29:59 AM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello RBWers,
>
> I've been having problems with a set of older type RBW Silver bar end 
> shifters. 
> There seems to be a lot of play in the shifters. They've been like this 
> out of the box.
> They also slip a  bit in the middle sprockets, ghost shifting from the 
> bigger to smaller
> sprocket. Tightening the bolt that holds the shifter lever doesn't make 
> much difference,
> even with the bolt done up pretty tight the play and slipping seem to 
> persist. 
>
> It seems this is a bit of a known problem with these shifters. Does anyone 
> have any suggestions for a remedy for this? E.g. is it possible to add an 
> additional washer somewhere?
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Johnny in Belgium
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Play & Slipping with Silver Bar End Shifters

2021-02-01 Thread Joe Bernard 
It can't hurt to grab the new harder plastic washers Riv sells for these 
but yeah, there's some play in them that never goes away. The washers may 
solve the 'slipping in gear' part though, that's what matters in my 
opinion. 



On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 12:57:05 PM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> I didn't swap the levers from one side to the other. There's no reason not 
> to try it I suppose, just never got round to it. 
>
> In any case, both levers, left and right, seem to have a lot of lateral 
> play in them. Like about a mm or more at the pod where the lever bolts on.
> I have tightened the D rings about as far as possible by hand. There is 
> still a slighly loose fore-aft feeling in the lever before the ratchet 
> clicks when I want to shift,
> but it's not like a friction shifter that's not been tightened enough - 
> nothing is actually slipping.
>
> I have a couple of sets of old suntour bar ends, both the first generation 
> ones and the later barcons with 7 speed indexing on the RD side and 
> ratcheting on the FD side. 
> Neither of those shifters have any play in and I've never had any problems 
> with them slipping. 
>
> Thanks again for any suggestions.
>
> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 17:56, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> OK, it came from a shop, not from Rivendell, but we're assuming that it 
>> is stuff that's supposed to work together.  That's good
>>
>> There is no particular Left vs Right.  Either one can serve either role.  
>>  It's just a matter of whether you want the D-rings on the outside or the 
>> inside.  Since you've swapped things around liberally, can I assume you've 
>> already swapped the shifters?  Did they both do equally badly when used for 
>> the rear der?
>>
>> Next, please describe the "play".  What does this mean?  Do you mean you 
>> can wiggle the shifter side to side?  Do you mean you can wiggle the 
>> shifter in it's normal travel direction and it moves a bit before the cable 
>> starts moving?  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 8:05:44 AM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I have a complete set. It's the right hand shifter that's causing the 
>>> problem. 9 speed. I have a double chainring on the front with a granny gear 
>>> and a 36t big ring. This is setup to avoid shifting the front derailleur 
>>> too often, so I don't use the left hand shifter enough to say if it's got a 
>>> major problem. I tried a few different derailleurs, mostly variants of 
>>> Shimano Deore, but the slipping/ghost shifting persisted. 
>>>
>>> The setup is a full Rivendell branded barend shifter set. No cobbling 
>>> together. I ordered it as a Dia Compe barend shifter set, and the shop I 
>>> bought it from sent me the Riv set.  
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Johnny
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 16:27, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 OK one step at a time

 1. Do you have one Silver Bar end shifter or two?  Do both have a 
 problem or only one?
 2. Did you buy these Silver Bar end shifters complete from Rivendell 
 Bicycle Works as bar end shifters?  Or did you or somebody else cobble 
 together Silver Downtube shifters onto Shimano, or somebody elses bar end 
 pods?

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:29:59 AM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hello RBWers,
>
> I've been having problems with a set of older type RBW Silver bar end 
> shifters. 
> There seems to be a lot of play in the shifters. They've been like 
> this out of the box.
> They also slip a  bit in the middle sprockets, ghost shifting from the 
> bigger to smaller
> sprocket. Tightening the bolt that holds the shifter lever doesn't 
> make much difference,
> even with the bolt done up pretty tight the play and slipping seem to 
> persist. 
>
> It seems this is a bit of a known problem with these shifters. Does 
> anyone have any suggestions for a remedy for this? E.g. is it possible to 
> add an additional washer somewhere?
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Johnny in Belgium
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Play & Slipping with Silver Bar End Shifters

2021-02-01 Thread Den John 
I didn't swap the levers from one side to the other. There's no reason not
to try it I suppose, just never got round to it.

In any case, both levers, left and right, seem to have a lot of lateral
play in them. Like about a mm or more at the pod where the lever bolts on.
I have tightened the D rings about as far as possible by hand. There is
still a slighly loose fore-aft feeling in the lever before the ratchet
clicks when I want to shift,
but it's not like a friction shifter that's not been tightened enough -
nothing is actually slipping.

I have a couple of sets of old suntour bar ends, both the first generation
ones and the later barcons with 7 speed indexing on the RD side and
ratcheting on the FD side.
Neither of those shifters have any play in and I've never had any problems
with them slipping.

Thanks again for any suggestions.

On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 17:56, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> OK, it came from a shop, not from Rivendell, but we're assuming that it is
> stuff that's supposed to work together.  That's good
>
> There is no particular Left vs Right.  Either one can serve either role.
>  It's just a matter of whether you want the D-rings on the outside or the
> inside.  Since you've swapped things around liberally, can I assume you've
> already swapped the shifters?  Did they both do equally badly when used for
> the rear der?
>
> Next, please describe the "play".  What does this mean?  Do you mean you
> can wiggle the shifter side to side?  Do you mean you can wiggle the
> shifter in it's normal travel direction and it moves a bit before the cable
> starts moving?
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 8:05:44 AM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have a complete set. It's the right hand shifter that's causing the
>> problem. 9 speed. I have a double chainring on the front with a granny gear
>> and a 36t big ring. This is setup to avoid shifting the front derailleur
>> too often, so I don't use the left hand shifter enough to say if it's got a
>> major problem. I tried a few different derailleurs, mostly variants of
>> Shimano Deore, but the slipping/ghost shifting persisted.
>>
>> The setup is a full Rivendell branded barend shifter set. No cobbling
>> together. I ordered it as a Dia Compe barend shifter set, and the shop I
>> bought it from sent me the Riv set.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 16:27, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> OK one step at a time
>>>
>>> 1. Do you have one Silver Bar end shifter or two?  Do both have a
>>> problem or only one?
>>> 2. Did you buy these Silver Bar end shifters complete from Rivendell
>>> Bicycle Works as bar end shifters?  Or did you or somebody else cobble
>>> together Silver Downtube shifters onto Shimano, or somebody elses bar end
>>> pods?
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:29:59 AM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hello RBWers,

 I've been having problems with a set of older type RBW Silver bar end
 shifters.
 There seems to be a lot of play in the shifters. They've been like this
 out of the box.
 They also slip a  bit in the middle sprockets, ghost shifting from the
 bigger to smaller
 sprocket. Tightening the bolt that holds the shifter lever doesn't make
 much difference,
 even with the bolt done up pretty tight the play and slipping seem to
 persist.

 It seems this is a bit of a known problem with these shifters. Does
 anyone have any suggestions for a remedy for this? E.g. is it possible to
 add an additional washer somewhere?

 Thanks for any help,

 Johnny in Belgium

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Re: [RBW] Re: Play & Slipping with Silver Bar End Shifters

2021-02-01 Thread Bill Lindsay 
OK, it came from a shop, not from Rivendell, but we're assuming that it is 
stuff that's supposed to work together.  That's good

There is no particular Left vs Right.  Either one can serve either role.  
 It's just a matter of whether you want the D-rings on the outside or the 
inside.  Since you've swapped things around liberally, can I assume you've 
already swapped the shifters?  Did they both do equally badly when used for 
the rear der?

Next, please describe the "play".  What does this mean?  Do you mean you 
can wiggle the shifter side to side?  Do you mean you can wiggle the 
shifter in it's normal travel direction and it moves a bit before the cable 
starts moving?  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 8:05:44 AM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a complete set. It's the right hand shifter that's causing the 
> problem. 9 speed. I have a double chainring on the front with a granny gear 
> and a 36t big ring. This is setup to avoid shifting the front derailleur 
> too often, so I don't use the left hand shifter enough to say if it's got a 
> major problem. I tried a few different derailleurs, mostly variants of 
> Shimano Deore, but the slipping/ghost shifting persisted. 
>
> The setup is a full Rivendell branded barend shifter set. No cobbling 
> together. I ordered it as a Dia Compe barend shifter set, and the shop I 
> bought it from sent me the Riv set.  
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 16:27, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> OK one step at a time
>>
>> 1. Do you have one Silver Bar end shifter or two?  Do both have a problem 
>> or only one?
>> 2. Did you buy these Silver Bar end shifters complete from Rivendell 
>> Bicycle Works as bar end shifters?  Or did you or somebody else cobble 
>> together Silver Downtube shifters onto Shimano, or somebody elses bar end 
>> pods?
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:29:59 AM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hello RBWers,
>>>
>>> I've been having problems with a set of older type RBW Silver bar end 
>>> shifters. 
>>> There seems to be a lot of play in the shifters. They've been like this 
>>> out of the box.
>>> They also slip a  bit in the middle sprockets, ghost shifting from the 
>>> bigger to smaller
>>> sprocket. Tightening the bolt that holds the shifter lever doesn't make 
>>> much difference,
>>> even with the bolt done up pretty tight the play and slipping seem to 
>>> persist. 
>>>
>>> It seems this is a bit of a known problem with these shifters. Does 
>>> anyone have any suggestions for a remedy for this? E.g. is it possible to 
>>> add an additional washer somewhere?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>
>>> Johnny in Belgium
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Play & Slipping with Silver Bar End Shifters

2021-02-01 Thread Den John 
I have a complete set. It's the right hand shifter that's causing the
problem. 9 speed. I have a double chainring on the front with a granny gear
and a 36t big ring. This is setup to avoid shifting the front derailleur
too often, so I don't use the left hand shifter enough to say if it's got a
major problem. I tried a few different derailleurs, mostly variants of
Shimano Deore, but the slipping/ghost shifting persisted.

The setup is a full Rivendell branded barend shifter set. No cobbling
together. I ordered it as a Dia Compe barend shifter set, and the shop I
bought it from sent me the Riv set.

Cheers,
Johnny

On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 16:27, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> OK one step at a time
>
> 1. Do you have one Silver Bar end shifter or two?  Do both have a problem
> or only one?
> 2. Did you buy these Silver Bar end shifters complete from Rivendell
> Bicycle Works as bar end shifters?  Or did you or somebody else cobble
> together Silver Downtube shifters onto Shimano, or somebody elses bar end
> pods?
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:29:59 AM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello RBWers,
>>
>> I've been having problems with a set of older type RBW Silver bar end
>> shifters.
>> There seems to be a lot of play in the shifters. They've been like this
>> out of the box.
>> They also slip a  bit in the middle sprockets, ghost shifting from the
>> bigger to smaller
>> sprocket. Tightening the bolt that holds the shifter lever doesn't make
>> much difference,
>> even with the bolt done up pretty tight the play and slipping seem to
>> persist.
>>
>> It seems this is a bit of a known problem with these shifters. Does
>> anyone have any suggestions for a remedy for this? E.g. is it possible to
>> add an additional washer somewhere?
>>
>> Thanks for any help,
>>
>> Johnny in Belgium
>>
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[RBW] Re: Play & Slipping with Silver Bar End Shifters

2021-02-01 Thread Bill Lindsay 
OK one step at a time

1. Do you have one Silver Bar end shifter or two?  Do both have a problem 
or only one?
2. Did you buy these Silver Bar end shifters complete from Rivendell 
Bicycle Works as bar end shifters?  Or did you or somebody else cobble 
together Silver Downtube shifters onto Shimano, or somebody elses bar end 
pods?

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:29:59 AM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello RBWers,
>
> I've been having problems with a set of older type RBW Silver bar end 
> shifters. 
> There seems to be a lot of play in the shifters. They've been like this 
> out of the box.
> They also slip a  bit in the middle sprockets, ghost shifting from the 
> bigger to smaller
> sprocket. Tightening the bolt that holds the shifter lever doesn't make 
> much difference,
> even with the bolt done up pretty tight the play and slipping seem to 
> persist. 
>
> It seems this is a bit of a known problem with these shifters. Does anyone 
> have any suggestions for a remedy for this? E.g. is it possible to add an 
> additional washer somewhere?
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Johnny in Belgium
>

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