[RBW] Re: Possible stripped threads on frame ... what to do?
On drive side rack eyelets, I use a button head cap screw installed from the inside so it becomes a stud onto which the rack strut mounts and is retained with a nut. Button heads are a low profile, domed head allen so there's less chance of interference with the chain. The rear wheel must usually be removed to install one from the inside but I usually do it once and leave it in place, regardless of whether the rack is on. The belt'n'suspenders approach to rack mounting is to use bolts long enough to go thru all the threaded eyelets with enough thread out the other side for a washer, lock washer and nylok nut. Also carry a small selection of extra rack hardware on tour. And zip tiesand duct tape. dougP On Apr 23, 1:57 pm, Wally wwer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I was installing a rack on my A. Homer Hilsen, and tightening down the right-side strut on the frame, when I felt it all sort of give. The bolt seems to be stable, but I am concerned that I may have stripped the threads on the frame. What should I do about this? Thanks for your help and advice. Wally -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Possible stripped threads on frame ... what to do?
My method for drive side screws is to just search my parts bowl for something that is close, then use a washer (or 2) on the outside of the rack to keep things flush on the inside. It also depends on how close the freewheel/cassette is to the frame. On the Sam Hillborne, it's not too close, so a few threads don't matter. Wally - I'll join the chorus of saying remove the bolt (slowly and carefully), grease a new bolt and slowly install that. If nothing breaks, you'll probably be fine. Broke a bolt on my Fargo last year. Took the mechanic at my LBS some extra time to extract that bolt and get things fixed. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Apr 24, 2:10 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: On drive side rack eyelets, I use a button head cap screw installed from the inside so it becomes a stud onto which the rack strut mounts and is retained with a nut. Button heads are a low profile, domed head allen so there's less chance of interference with the chain. The rear wheel must usually be removed to install one from the inside but I usually do it once and leave it in place, regardless of whether the rack is on. The belt'n'suspenders approach to rack mounting is to use bolts long enough to go thru all the threaded eyelets with enough thread out the other side for a washer, lock washer and nylok nut. Also carry a small selection of extra rack hardware on tour. And zip tiesand duct tape. dougP On Apr 23, 1:57 pm, Wally wwer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I was installing a rack on my A. Homer Hilsen, and tightening down the right-side strut on the frame, when I felt it all sort of give. The bolt seems to be stable, but I am concerned that I may have stripped the threads on the frame. What should I do about this? Thanks for your help and advice. Wally- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Possible stripped threads on frame ... what to do?
Thanks, everyone! I'll take it off tomorrow night and let you know what I find. Hopefully it is the bolt's threads that stripped. Or maybe it was my imagination. I like the idea of a button head bolt screwed through from the drive side. With that, the conditions of the thread on the frame don't matter. And I will take care of this before I'm at the back of beyond and it decides to let loose, I promise. Wally -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Possible stripped threads on frame ... what to do?
Use a slightly longer bolt with a nut and lock washer.put the nut on the outside so it won't rub on the chain etc. if its at the dropout area. That is one cheap way to do it. I'd try to back the bolt out and inspect the threads then maybe run a tap though it to clean out any paint plus freshen the threads. Use a new bolt also if its stretched or damaged. You might have damaged the bolt and not the frame threading making it an easy fix. On Apr 23, 1:57 pm, Wally wwer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I was installing a rack on my A. Homer Hilsen, and tightening down the right-side strut on the frame, when I felt it all sort of give. The bolt seems to be stable, but I am concerned that I may have stripped the threads on the frame. What should I do about this? Thanks for your help and advice. Wally -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Possible stripped threads on frame ... what to do?
That happened to me a while back, but the bolt broke off inside the eyelet when I tried to back it out. Had to drill carefuly, but I got the remains out, and the threads were fine. When my new Bombadil arrived recently, I asked my LBS How much to chase the threads on a new frame? The guy said $10 should be fine. I said Do you have any idea how many eyelets are on a Bombadil? He said Whatever - $10 should be plenty, and I'll chase the bottom brasket and derailleur hanger too. I Said OK, I'll bring it over in an hour. (Note: I'm not sure if Rivendell chases threads on frames they sell - I think they do for builds though. All I can say is that there was paint in most of my eyelets. Your mileage may vary.) I can honestly say he is intimately aware of how many eyelets are on a Bombadil now! Lot's of interest in the bike for sure from other mechanics - when they weren't teasing him for agreeing to chase so many holes for ten bucks - none had ever seen it. After watching him crank away for a while, I even offered to pay him extra, but he said A deal's a deal, and I left with a smile on my face, and clean threads all around. He even used a dab of Phil grease in every hole for good measure. Marty On Apr 23, 5:43 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it is probably worth taking the bolt out because, eventually, you'll have to deal with it. You may have simply peeled the threads off of the bolt. Either way, it's not a huge problem to fix so don't worry too much!! On Apr 23, 5:28 pm, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Use a slightly longer bolt with a nut and lock washer.put the nut on the outside so it won't rub on the chain etc. if its at the dropout area. That is one cheap way to do it. I'd try to back the bolt out and inspect the threads then maybe run a tap though it to clean out any paint plus freshen the threads. Use a new bolt also if its stretched or damaged. You might have damaged the bolt and not the frame threading making it an easy fix. On Apr 23, 1:57 pm, Wally wwer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I was installing a rack on my A. Homer Hilsen, and tightening down the right-side strut on the frame, when I felt it all sort of give. The bolt seems to be stable, but I am concerned that I may have stripped the threads on the frame. What should I do about this? Thanks for your help and advice. Wally- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Possible stripped threads on frame ... what to do?
I'd repeat what others suggested, if you really stripped it, either get it re-chased, or just use a bolt and nut. i've done this before on frames that didn't have threaded eyelets (yes it's really old or bad threads before it got to me), in one case i had to put the bolt in with the head on the inside of the frame and the bolt on the outside for clearance reasons. aesthetically not the best but it worked fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Possible stripped threads on frame ... what to do?
Bring him a six pack on your next visit. I do that when friendly mechanics go out of their way to hurry a project or do something out of the line of strict duty. On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: That happened to me a while back, but the bolt broke off inside the eyelet when I tried to back it out. Had to drill carefuly, but I got the remains out, and the threads were fine. When my new Bombadil arrived recently, I asked my LBS How much to chase the threads on a new frame? The guy said $10 should be fine. I said Do you have any idea how many eyelets are on a Bombadil? He said Whatever - $10 should be plenty, and I'll chase the bottom brasket and derailleur hanger too. I Said OK, I'll bring it over in an hour. (Note: I'm not sure if Rivendell chases threads on frames they sell - I think they do for builds though. All I can say is that there was paint in most of my eyelets. Your mileage may vary.) I can honestly say he is intimately aware of how many eyelets are on a Bombadil now! Lot's of interest in the bike for sure from other mechanics - when they weren't teasing him for agreeing to chase so many holes for ten bucks - none had ever seen it. After watching him crank away for a while, I even offered to pay him extra, but he said A deal's a deal, and I left with a smile on my face, and clean threads all around. He even used a dab of Phil grease in every hole for good measure. Marty On Apr 23, 5:43 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it is probably worth taking the bolt out because, eventually, you'll have to deal with it. You may have simply peeled the threads off of the bolt. Either way, it's not a huge problem to fix so don't worry too much!! On Apr 23, 5:28 pm, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Use a slightly longer bolt with a nut and lock washer.put the nut on the outside so it won't rub on the chain etc. if its at the dropout area. That is one cheap way to do it. I'd try to back the bolt out and inspect the threads then maybe run a tap though it to clean out any paint plus freshen the threads. Use a new bolt also if its stretched or damaged. You might have damaged the bolt and not the frame threading making it an easy fix. On Apr 23, 1:57 pm, Wally wwer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I was installing a rack on my A. Homer Hilsen, and tightening down the right-side strut on the frame, when I felt it all sort of give. The bolt seems to be stable, but I am concerned that I may have stripped the threads on the frame. What should I do about this? Thanks for your help and advice. Wally- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW, Ph.D., MBA, and much, much more! patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
