[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
wow just wow. lol professor actual factual saving the non helmeted children of yester year with time machine and encyclopedic knowledge of helmet trivia. now if he only coulda made it ta da 80s i wouldn't a banged my unhelmeted head so often n I'd be a lick smarter... !) then maybe I'd recon what this post was all about in the first place... :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
Does anyone remember what this thread was about? ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 8:32:09 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I know, Keith, I was just rolling with it. Right into a phone pole! Hope you were wearing that helment when you hit! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
anyone have a sense of humor they can loan to a fellow forum member? On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 7:32:09 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I know, Keith, I was just rolling with it. Right into a phone pole! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
I know, Keith, I was just rolling with it. Right into a phone pole! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
I meant that as a joke. I was in santa monica in '74, doing similar things, and realize there were no helmets. If we got hurt, we were taken to the doctor riding in the back of a wood-paneled station wagon, with no seat belts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
Haha. That response made me chuckle out loud (I refuse to use 'lol'). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
On 03/09/2017 04:22 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: I think I'm right, unless you want to take a humorous comment and turn it into an actual statistical analysis of how many people in Long Beach had ever seen a bicycle helmet in 1974. For the purposes of my story centered on kids on Sting-Rays in the early '70s, the comment stands. I'm very aware of this issue because in 1974 I was the workshops chair for the Great Eastern Rally, held in Poughkeepsie NY at Marist College. One of my workshops featured a demonstration of the then brand new MSR bicycle helmet. The highlight of the presentation was when the presenter put on the helmet, took an Indian Club and whacked himself over the head with it and asked the audience if anyone would care to try that themselves with a leather hairnet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
I think I'm right, unless you want to take a humorous comment and turn it into an actual statistical analysis of how many people in Long Beach had ever seen a bicycle helmet in 1974. For the purposes of my story centered on kids on Sting-Rays in the early '70s, the comment stands. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
I think you're wrong: the MSR and the Bell Biker came out in 1974. On 03/09/2017 03:39 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: Ha! I don't think anyone in Long Beach, CA. in the early '70s had ever even SEEN a bicycle helmet! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
Ha! I don't think anyone in Long Beach, CA. in the early '70s had ever even SEEN a bicycle helmet! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
Did his helmet survive? ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
Evel Knievel made regular appearances on ABC's Wide World of Sports in the '70s, jumping an ever increasing number of cars with his Harley XR750. All us kids jumped out bikes back then, and snapped them in half regularly. One evening I stumbled into an alley and some dude had actually built ramps big enough to get him over two cars on his Sting-Ray. He had a giant front sprocket and got himself up a good head of steam and sailed right over those cars. And the landing ramp. He bounced into a telephone pole on the edge of the alley and broke his arm. That was a strange night... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
No, lots of kids were doing that, and breaking them. Back in the early 70s, before purpose built BMX bikes existed, a friend had a Schwinn dealership & sold tons of Stingrays. There were so many frame failures due to jumping that Schwinn dropped their famous "lifetime frame warranty". You got the 50/50 warranty: break in half & you get to keep both halves. It did spur the development of a BMX industry here in SoCal. dougP On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 2:18:49 PM UTC-8, Les Lammers wrote: > > I thought I was the only one that did that. ;-) > > On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 1:29:27 PM UTC-5, Wayne Naha wrote: >> >> From the comments "don't trust a frame you bake in an oven" Still, I >> think my Clem would have bounced back after that, but we'll never know >> because shenanigans like that are not for me anymore. Kind of reminds me >> of days gone by when my kid pals and I would spend endless hours building >> ramps to ride our no-name sting-ray style bikes over. Good fun. >> >> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> You may have seen this already, but just a reminder: >>> https://www.pinkbike.com/video/463858/ >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
he was going faster than free fall and landed on the front of the bottom bracket shell splitting the fork out forward - no bike is designed for this. Steel would bend instead of break, but it still wouldn't ride home. On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 6:23:03 AM UTC-6, ascpgh wrote: > > Maybe the CFRP frame engineers need to have a chat with the fork > engineers. > > How unforeseen is that force on a dual-sus trail bike? The fork won. The > frame brand (and material, surprisingly) is the goat of that video the wake > it's leaving, judging by the comments. > > I saw a similar force input in a bad landing of a steel MTB, bending the > fork legs forward. Neither the upper nor lower head tube seats of the '86 > RockHopper's frame ovalized to caliper dimensions, no uneven material > produced when faced and reamed with the Campy head tube mill. > > It was mine and I had attempted to bunny hop a creek rut in a fairly flat, > grassy area and instead of clearing it fully, my back wheel caught the far > side lip and slammed the front wheel down producing a similar force as that > video. Only fail I ever carried home. Lesson learned. > > Andy Cheatham > Pittsburgh > > > > On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 12:25:21 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: >> >> I don't think he could have ridden a steel bike home from that landing, >> either >> >> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:18:02 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> You may have seen this already, but just a reminder: >>> https://www.pinkbike.com/video/463858/ >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
Maybe the CFRP frame engineers need to have a chat with the fork engineers. How unforeseen is that force on a dual-sus trail bike? The fork won. The frame brand (and material, surprisingly) is the goat of that video the wake it's leaving, judging by the comments. I saw a similar force input in a bad landing of a steel MTB, bending the fork legs forward. Neither the upper nor lower head tube seats of the '86 RockHopper's frame ovalized to caliper dimensions, no uneven material produced when faced and reamed with the Campy head tube mill. It was mine and I had attempted to bunny hop a creek rut in a fairly flat, grassy area and instead of clearing it fully, my back wheel caught the far side lip and slammed the front wheel down producing a similar force as that video. Only fail I ever carried home. Lesson learned. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 12:25:21 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > I don't think he could have ridden a steel bike home from that landing, > either > > On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:18:02 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> You may have seen this already, but just a reminder: >> https://www.pinkbike.com/video/463858/ >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
I thought I was the only one that did that. ;-) On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 1:29:27 PM UTC-5, Wayne Naha wrote: > > From the comments "don't trust a frame you bake in an oven" Still, I > think my Clem would have bounced back after that, but we'll never know > because shenanigans like that are not for me anymore. Kind of reminds me > of days gone by when my kid pals and I would spend endless hours building > ramps to ride our no-name sting-ray style bikes over. Good fun. > > On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> You may have seen this already, but just a reminder: >> https://www.pinkbike.com/video/463858/ >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
>From the comments "don't trust a frame you bake in an oven" Still, I think my Clem would have bounced back after that, but we'll never know because shenanigans like that are not for me anymore. Kind of reminds me of days gone by when my kid pals and I would spend endless hours building ramps to ride our no-name sting-ray style bikes over. Good fun. On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > You may have seen this already, but just a reminder: > https://www.pinkbike.com/video/463858/ > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!
I don't think he could have ridden a steel bike home from that landing, either On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:18:02 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > You may have seen this already, but just a reminder: > https://www.pinkbike.com/video/463858/ > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.