Re: [RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[G.E.]

Thank you... I like it. 

The handlebars are flipped Albatross (with the ends cut down due to my 
thick thighs that like to hit the bar-ends). I tried using Moustache 
initially, but the stretch was too much for my vertically challenged body. 
:)

On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 9:41:59 AM UTC-6, RichS wrote:
>
> Beautiful Sam H you have there! Nice bag set up and I presume flipped 
> Moustache bars that look quite comfortable.
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 23, 2018, at 10:01 PM, G.E.  
> wrote:
>
> This is my 2009 Sam H. I ride it fender-less out of necessity because no 
> matter what we did to try to keep them from rubbing the tires, they always 
> would. I'm sure it's primarily due to the small size (47cm), but that's why 
> mine is minus fenders. :) It's had racks at various points too, but this is 
> the current set up and way it's been for the last couple of years. I 
> haven't found it to be an issue and the bags attached are enough to carry 
> what I need from place to place. In severe downpours I do get wet, but I 
> just plan for that when necessary (or ride a different bike).
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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[christian poppell]

 



Hope these display correctly


On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 12:37:44 PM UTC-7, christian poppell wrote:
>
> Here's my Quickbeam without fenders. I'm happy most of the time but I do 
> find myself looking at the sky and wondering if it will rain... 
>
> Christian
> Berkeley, CA
>
> On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 9:23:46 AM UTC-7, Kieran J wrote:
>>
>> I like that Sam too! Kind of the polished, more esteemed twin to Manny's 
>> roughneck-delinquent Hillborne. Bizarro-sams.
>>
>> KJ
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Kieran J]

I like that Sam too! Kind of the polished, more esteemed twin to Manny's 
roughneck-delinquent Hillborne. Bizarro-sams.

KJ





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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[R Shannon]

Beautiful Sam H you have there! Nice bag set up and I presume flipped Moustache 
bars that look quite comfortable.

Best,
Richard

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2018, at 10:01 PM, G.E.  wrote:
> 
> This is my 2009 Sam H. I ride it fender-less out of necessity because no 
> matter what we did to try to keep them from rubbing the tires, they always 
> would. I'm sure it's primarily due to the small size (47cm), but that's why 
> mine is minus fenders. :) It's had racks at various points too, but this is 
> the current set up and way it's been for the last couple of years. I haven't 
> found it to be an issue and the bags attached are enough to carry what I need 
> from place to place. In severe downpours I do get wet, but I just plan for 
> that when necessary (or ride a different bike).
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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Will]

I don't think about planing. Here's the bomb: 2004 Toyo Atlantis 53 in its 
original configuration The beast is fast and sure. 






On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 4:19:31 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:
>
> It is! Sometimes I think about getting a thin-walled superlight "planey" 
> frame made, then take the Boo-Yay out for a spin and shrug that idea off a 
> little longer :-P
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 1:53:29 PM UTC-7, Abcyclehank wrote:
>>
>> K
>> Is that a 68cm Ram in the famous pearl orange?  Not selling does not rule 
>> out trading remember!
>>
>> Ryan
>> West Michigan
>>
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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Kieran J]

It is! Sometimes I think about getting a thin-walled superlight "planey" 
frame made, then take the Boo-Yay out for a spin and shrug that idea off a 
little longer :-P

KJ


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> K
> Is that a 68cm Ram in the famous pearl orange?  Not selling does not rule 
> out trading remember!
>
> Ryan
> West Michigan
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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Abcyclehank]

K
Is that a 68cm Ram in the famous pearl orange?  Not selling does not rule out 
trading remember!

Ryan
West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Kieran J]

Love as always for the Ram with 35mm Compass tires. Don't think I'll ever 
sell this bike ..

KJ




On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 6:50:03 AM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> From time to time I get the urge to drop the fenders/front rack and just 
> ride, wheels free, with a saddle bag (Banana sax nowadays?)and attach me 
> dino-light onto me front brake assembly.
> I commute 20-30 miles round-trip when I commute. Roads only.
> With wide DT carbonicbike I used to have I could get away with no spray in 
> the face. The DT would block it.
> How do the Rivbikes with skinnier DT fare in the rain? Spray in the face? 
> Or no big deal?
>
>
> I mean, anything heavier than a light rain and I get utterly drenched 
> anyway, even with my correctly, neurotically mounted Honjos and nice J 
> rain gear.
> That stuff works great in light rains. But I get soaked to the bone in 
> anything heavier anyway. Sometimes I feel anxious about the risk of 
> rack/fender failures, so I check them  to keep everything snugged up.
> Maybe I will keep the Bleriot the armoured vehicle and the Rambouillet the 
> slimmed down bike and just see how it goes when I get caught on the 
> Rambouillet in the rain.
>
> One thing I love about fenders is I only get hit by falling, clean rain, 
> and not from any nastiness on the road surface. That is a big plus.
>
> Fenderless safety question:
> If a front brake mounted edeluxe  drops onto your unfendered front wheel, 
> will it stop the wheel, or just ride on top of it and not be a danger?
>
> Thanks for your thoughts and experiences.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Surlyprof]

+1 on the Gino Light Mount.  I use them mounted on the side of my front 
rack and they work great (light mounts upside down under a Wald).  I 
believe you can mount them on the fork braze on as well but my have to 
change bolt size.  Can't remember for sure.  

John

On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 8:42:03 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> Gino Light Mount is a good option for front illumination. Even better if 
> you have mid-fork eyelets.
>
> https://paulcomp.com/shop/components/gino-light-mount/
>
>
>
> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 10:49:17 PM UTC-7, Mark Anderson wrote:
>>
>> If your brake-mounted headlight falls into your wheel, that means your 
>> front brake has detached from the fork.  In that case the light may make 
>> you crash, but you'd crash without the light too. 
>> -- 
>> Mark Anderson 
>
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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Gino Light Mount is a good option for front illumination. Even better if 
you have mid-fork eyelets.

https://paulcomp.com/shop/components/gino-light-mount/



On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 10:49:17 PM UTC-7, Mark Anderson wrote:
>
> If your brake-mounted headlight falls into your wheel, that means your 
> front brake has detached from the fork.  In that case the light may make 
> you crash, but you'd crash without the light too. 
> -- 
> Mark Anderson 

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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Surlyprof]

We don't get that much rain in these parts and usually know the season when 
it's going to hit.  My Hillborne has been fenderless for almost two years 
since I got a fendered Brompton for commuting.  I swap wheelsets often and 
fenderless allows for gravel fun with Smart 
Sams:  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/19238298132/in/dateposted-public/

However, aesthetically, I do think the Hillborne looks classier with the 
fenders:  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/16993973501/in/dateposted-public/

John

On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 6:50:03 AM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> From time to time I get the urge to drop the fenders/front rack and just 
> ride, wheels free, with a saddle bag (Banana sax nowadays?)and attach me 
> dino-light onto me front brake assembly.
> I commute 20-30 miles round-trip when I commute. Roads only.
> With wide DT carbonicbike I used to have I could get away with no spray in 
> the face. The DT would block it.
> How do the Rivbikes with skinnier DT fare in the rain? Spray in the face? 
> Or no big deal?
>
>
> I mean, anything heavier than a light rain and I get utterly drenched 
> anyway, even with my correctly, neurotically mounted Honjos and nice J 
> rain gear.
> That stuff works great in light rains. But I get soaked to the bone in 
> anything heavier anyway. Sometimes I feel anxious about the risk of 
> rack/fender failures, so I check them  to keep everything snugged up.
> Maybe I will keep the Bleriot the armoured vehicle and the Rambouillet the 
> slimmed down bike and just see how it goes when I get caught on the 
> Rambouillet in the rain.
>
> One thing I love about fenders is I only get hit by falling, clean rain, 
> and not from any nastiness on the road surface. That is a big plus.
>
> Fenderless safety question:
> If a front brake mounted edeluxe  drops onto your unfendered front wheel, 
> will it stop the wheel, or just ride on top of it and not be a danger?
>
> Thanks for your thoughts and experiences.
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[R Shannon]

Joe, your all-rounder is gorgeous. Looks right unfendered. Where in GA are you? 
I am in ATL/Decatur.

Seems like I’ve seen more Riv owners from GA on the list in the past year.

Regards,
Richard

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2018, at 7:18 PM, Joe Gates  wrote:
> 
> I have fenders for my AllRounder, but seldom use them. As my riding is for 
> fun and fitness and not for commuting, I have the luxury of choosing to not 
> ride in the rain. While riding in the rain can be quite pleasant if the 
> temperature is right, I do not like to be on the roads when motorists have 
> reduced visibility due to the rain. On the country back roads in my part of 
> GA the distracted drivers are dangerous enough without adding the extra 
> challenge of wet roads and rain-soaked windshields. Perhaps I am a bit too 
> cautious, but I am in the risk-management field!  
> 
> Here is a semi-recent photo of my AllRounder free of fenders.  I have since 
> replaced the saddle bag with a BananaSax purchased with my Hail Mary funds. 
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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[lambbo]

Today was Leo's last naked and free romp.  Pic below.  But after 60 miles 
on wet roads this morning my feet were drenched, and I can't imagine all 
the grime coming off the roads in Lyme, CT, where they heavily salt and 
sand into the spring, being good for the drivetrain.   Fenders go on this 
week! 


   



On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 9:50:03 AM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> From time to time I get the urge to drop the fenders/front rack and just 
> ride, wheels free, with a saddle bag (Banana sax nowadays?)and attach me 
> dino-light onto me front brake assembly.
> I commute 20-30 miles round-trip when I commute. Roads only.
> With wide DT carbonicbike I used to have I could get away with no spray in 
> the face. The DT would block it.
> How do the Rivbikes with skinnier DT fare in the rain? Spray in the face? 
> Or no big deal?
>
>
> I mean, anything heavier than a light rain and I get utterly drenched 
> anyway, even with my correctly, neurotically mounted Honjos and nice J 
> rain gear.
> That stuff works great in light rains. But I get soaked to the bone in 
> anything heavier anyway. Sometimes I feel anxious about the risk of 
> rack/fender failures, so I check them  to keep everything snugged up.
> Maybe I will keep the Bleriot the armoured vehicle and the Rambouillet the 
> slimmed down bike and just see how it goes when I get caught on the 
> Rambouillet in the rain.
>
> One thing I love about fenders is I only get hit by falling, clean rain, 
> and not from any nastiness on the road surface. That is a big plus.
>
> Fenderless safety question:
> If a front brake mounted edeluxe  drops onto your unfendered front wheel, 
> will it stop the wheel, or just ride on top of it and not be a danger?
>
> Thanks for your thoughts and experiences.
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Peter Andrews]

... and thank you!

On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 7:54 AM Peter Andrews 
wrote:

> Hi Max,
>
> This is a 60cm Bomba, seat height is 80cm, crank length 175 (I’m 6’3”).
>
> -Peter
> Oakland Bomba-Commuter
>
> On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 3:44 AM Max S  wrote:
>
>> That’s a great looking set up! What size Bomba is it, if you don’t mind
>> me asking, and what is the seat height?
>>
>> - Max “which Riv fits the Big Ones best?” in A2
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Peter Andrews]

Hi Max,

This is a 60cm Bomba, seat height is 80cm, crank length 175 (I’m 6’3”).

-Peter
Oakland Bomba-Commuter

On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 3:44 AM Max S  wrote:

> That’s a great looking set up! What size Bomba is it, if you don’t mind me
> asking, and what is the seat height?
>
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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Max S]

That’s a great looking set up! What size Bomba is it, if you don’t mind me 
asking, and what is the seat height? 

- Max “which Riv fits the Big Ones best?” in A2

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[R Shannon]

Fantastic looking Bomba - with or without fenders! 

Garth, this one’s for you:-)

Best,
Richard

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> On May 19, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Father of Sam  wrote:
> 
> Here are a couple of pics of my current set-up from a couple of weekends ago, 
> in commuter form.  As soon as it stops raining the fenders come off.  Just 
> how I've done it for years... Yes, I suppose 'rack-less' is not the case 
> here, but I see it more as a basket than a rack (doubling as a light mount).  
> Hopefully those pics post...
> 
>> On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 6:51:59 AM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>> ...and feel free to post pics of your rackless, fenderless Rivbikes. Would 
>> be fun to see.
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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Joe Bernard]

Dude, low "path racer" bars on a double-tube Bombadil. That's sweet!

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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[WETH]

I no longer own this bike, but for a while it had no fenders or racks.  I can’t 
speak to riding it in rain without fenders because I never did.
https://flic.kr/p/RVTfEU

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Patrick Moore]

Patrick FWIW, back when I had my Race Lite, I combined off-the-shelf
"motocross-style" f and r fenders* with ~5" strips of stiff, black plastic
zip tied to bottom of down tube and rear of seat tube, in effect continuing
coverage for the vestigial commercial fenders. Of course, this didn't work
as well as full Honjos, but it kept a great deal more mud off of me and the
bike than just the "moto-x" fenders.

* Much like these. I see that this bike also has a second rear fender under
the seatpost-mounted one; my plastic did similar duty.




On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> SKS MudX front fender. Blocks all face spash up to a certain air speed, at
> point my face catches up with the front spray. See it here (or in any of my
> posts, really). Also works great on the thinner QB.
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/s9o
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[d2mini]

I couldn't have a commuter without fenders.

But for sure a sunny day bike. Wouldn't mind the occasional unavoidable 
puddle.


On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 8:50:03 AM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> From time to time I get the urge to drop the fenders/front rack and just 
> ride, wheels free, with a saddle bag (Banana sax nowadays?)and attach me 
> dino-light onto me front brake assembly.
> I commute 20-30 miles round-trip when I commute. Roads only.
> With wide DT carbonicbike I used to have I could get away with no spray in 
> the face. The DT would block it.
> How do the Rivbikes with skinnier DT fare in the rain? Spray in the face? 
> Or no big deal?
>
>
> I mean, anything heavier than a light rain and I get utterly drenched 
> anyway, even with my correctly, neurotically mounted Honjos and nice J 
> rain gear.
> That stuff works great in light rains. But I get soaked to the bone in 
> anything heavier anyway. Sometimes I feel anxious about the risk of 
> rack/fender failures, so I check them  to keep everything snugged up.
> Maybe I will keep the Bleriot the armoured vehicle and the Rambouillet the 
> slimmed down bike and just see how it goes when I get caught on the 
> Rambouillet in the rain.
>
> One thing I love about fenders is I only get hit by falling, clean rain, 
> and not from any nastiness on the road surface. That is a big plus.
>
> Fenderless safety question:
> If a front brake mounted edeluxe  drops onto your unfendered front wheel, 
> will it stop the wheel, or just ride on top of it and not be a danger?
>
> Thanks for your thoughts and experiences.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Deacon Patrick]

SKS MudX front fender. Blocks all face spash up to a certain air speed, at 
point my face catches up with the front spray. See it here (or in any of my 
posts, really). Also works great on the thinner QB.
https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/s9o

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Lum Gim Fong]

...and feel free to post pics of your rackless, fenderless Rivbikes. Would 
be fun to see.

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