[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-19 Thread Edwin W
These protectors 

 
seem Riv-ish to me: made by an individual, attention to detail, etc...

Wrapping an old inner tube around the top tube and finishing it with 
electrical tape is Bobbish: practical and cheap by using discarded parts.


Edwin

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 6:31:22 AM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello,
>
> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>
> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
> environmental perspective. 
>
> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>
> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>
> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
> removable once it's been done. 
>
> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
> anyone who makes something like that.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-19 Thread lconley
It could be a section of a lace-on automotive steering wheel cover for an 
older thin rim steering wheel. They have similar spacing of the lacing 
holes. You could do several bicycles with one cover.

Laing 

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello,
>
> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>
> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
> environmental perspective. 
>
> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>
> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>
> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
> removable once it's been done. 
>
> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
> anyone who makes something like that.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-18 Thread Den John
Maybe it's something the factories that build the framesets do, rather than
Rivendell. In any case, it still seems likely that it's less labour
intensive to put on a sticker than to do some more elaborate chainstay
protection.

Johnny

On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 07:55, Nick Payne  wrote:

> On Sunday, 18 July 2021 at 3:19:20 am UTC+10 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Nick Payne Rivendell has all kinds of stuff on their site that you can
>> do yourself but they don't put on their complete bikes as standard.
>> Adjustable cup BBs, shellack over bar tape, cork grips, home made pump
>> pegs and grips,... Grant P likes the adjustable BBs but says it's not
>> economical to put them on all the completes they send out. Maybe the same
>> goes for the clear plastic chainstay covers: that's probably just the
>> easiest, quickest way to protect the bikes that they build up.
>>
>
> No, these weren't built-up bikes that I bought. They were bare framesets,
> and they both came with clear plastic chainstay protector already stuck on.
>
> Nick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-17 Thread Nick Payne
On Sunday, 18 July 2021 at 3:19:20 am UTC+10 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Nick Payne Rivendell has all kinds of stuff on their site that you can 
> do yourself but they don't put on their complete bikes as standard. 
> Adjustable cup BBs, shellack over bar tape, cork grips, home made pump 
> pegs and grips,... Grant P likes the adjustable BBs but says it's not 
> economical to put them on all the completes they send out. Maybe the same 
> goes for the clear plastic chainstay covers: that's probably just the 
> easiest, quickest way to protect the bikes that they build up.
>

No, these weren't built-up bikes that I bought. They were bare framesets, 
and they both came with clear plastic chainstay protector already stuck on.

Nick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-17 Thread aeroperf
I use a leather steering wheel cover.  They come in different sizes and 
colors, lace on, and are cheap.

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-17 Thread Evan E.
An outfit called Clintonville Leather, on Etsy, sells leather top tube 
protectors in different lengths. Good quality leather, backed by a strip of 
inner tube and secured with Chicago screws. Here 
.
 
No affiliation.

>
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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-17 Thread Nick Payne
Rivendell themselves put clear plastic protection on the drive side 
chainstay of their frames - both the Rivendell frames I have came with the 
protection already installed - so I don't see that you can say it's not 
very Riv-ish. 

For protecting the toptubes of the bikes, which have the bare brake cable 
inner running along at about ten o'clock on the tube, I went to a motorbike 
shop and bought a roll of 3M plastic tape intended for paint protection. 
It's been installed for a good 20 years, hasn't peeled or yellowed, and 
most people don't notice that it's there at all.

Nick

On Tuesday, 6 July 2021 at 9:31:22 pm UTC+10 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>
> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
> environmental perspective.
>
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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-06 Thread Joe Bernard
One sold, dark blue available. 



On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 2:25:40 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I have a couple of these BMX-type covers I got from a very nice fellow in 
> Hong Kong. This is the only option I would use, I'm wary of moisture 
> getting under twine and/or cloth and screwing up the toptube worse than any 
> dings or dents ever would (this is also why I don't wrap chainstays). 
>
> I don't actually use them, though, so anyone can have them for shipping. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:31:22 AM UTC-7 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>>
>> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
>> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
>> environmental perspective. 
>>
>> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
>> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>>
>> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
>> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
>> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
>> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>>
>> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
>> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
>> removable once it's been done. 
>>
>> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
>> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
>> anyone who makes something like that.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-06 Thread Benjamin L. Kelley
I agree with John here, the most Riv-ish solution is not to use one. If
dings in my paint from posts or handlebars bothered me,  I'd be more
inclined to not do the things that cause it, rather than to add
unnecessary, bulky, and unattractive protective equipment.
My most beat up toptube frame(2017 Steamroller, lived chained to a signpost
for 2 years in NY) still gets good compliments.
Some guys actually came into the bar and found me the other night because
they wanted to talk to me about bikes.  They didn't come in to say "dude
that TT is messed up, put a pound of leather on it!"

--ben


On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 2:01 PM John Rinker  wrote:

> While there's a part of me that completely understands the desire to
> protect the beautiful paint on my Riv, another, more carefree part feels
> that covering up such beautiful work defeats the purpose of having it to
> enjoy. Kind of reminds me when my aunt bought a beautiful couch only to
> cover it with a less-than-attractive throw to protect it.
>
> Entropy is real and I'm trying to come to terms with the fleeting nature
> of beauty, or to appreciate what beauty there is in the whole process from
> 'shiny-new' to 'well-used'.
>
> We're I to cover the top tube, I'd probably learn a cool, multi-colored
> bar tape wrap with twine finishing the ends. Very Riv, indeed.
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 9:20:35 AM UTC-7 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Sean B: Those Blue Lug pads are exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
>> I may see if my wife can produce something similar with her sewing
>> machine...
>>
>> @Johnny Alien: I saw someone at the Eroica in Italy who had done his
>> whole handlebar with twine. It looked cool but I thought no way I'd try it.
>> Even taping bars with normal tape tends to drive me demented.
>>
>> @Leslie: what is Riv-ish when it comes to bike finishing and accessories?
>> For me, a few things:
>> - Preference for materials that can be treated or repaired to
>> keep them usable, rather than materials that have to be thrown out when
>> they start to get tired
>> - Preference for natural materials like cotton, twine and leather
>> that develop a patina
>> - Designs that don't have large ugly logos, and/or colours that
>> clash with Rivendell's colours
>>
>> @Everyone else: thanks for your suggestions.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 18:02, Sean B.  wrote:
>>
>>> I use one of the mini protectors from Blue Lug to keep my bar end
>>> shifters from scratching the TT . They also make full top tube protectors
>>> too.
>>>
>>> https://global.bluelug.com/accessories/frame-pad.html
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 10:01:52 AM UTC-5 Drw wrote:
>>>
 If you were looking for just protection from handlebars flopping into
 the top tube, the pake protector works really well, is small and not
 incredibly noticeable...though i wish it was unbranded.
 On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:54:10 AM UTC-7 Leslie Tierstein wrote:

> I don't know what you mean by "Riv-ish".  My favorite top tube
> protector is by Green Guru, marketed to messengers to help them carry the
> bike on their shoulders.  Velcro closure, not too much padding.
> Unfortunately, it is currently sold out:
> Top Tube Protector - Green Guru Gear
> 
>
> Leslie Tierstein
> Arlington VA
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes?
>>
>> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to
>> peel off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from
>> an environmental perspective.
>>
>> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very
>> good match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment.
>>
>> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem
>> to fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo
>> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A
>> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose.
>>
>> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of
>> their TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not
>> easily removable once it's been done.
>>
>> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like
>> Carradice waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've 
>> not
>> found anyone who makes something like that.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-06 Thread John Rinker
While there's a part of me that completely understands the desire to 
protect the beautiful paint on my Riv, another, more carefree part feels 
that covering up such beautiful work defeats the purpose of having it to 
enjoy. Kind of reminds me when my aunt bought a beautiful couch only to 
cover it with a less-than-attractive throw to protect it. 

Entropy is real and I'm trying to come to terms with the fleeting nature of 
beauty, or to appreciate what beauty there is in the whole process from 
'shiny-new' to 'well-used'. 

We're I to cover the top tube, I'd probably learn a cool, multi-colored bar 
tape wrap with twine finishing the ends. Very Riv, indeed.

Cheers, John

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 9:20:35 AM UTC-7 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Sean B: Those Blue Lug pads are exactly what I was looking for. Thanks! 
> I may see if my wife can produce something similar with her sewing 
> machine...
>
> @Johnny Alien: I saw someone at the Eroica in Italy who had done his whole 
> handlebar with twine. It looked cool but I thought no way I'd try it. Even 
> taping bars with normal tape tends to drive me demented. 
>
> @Leslie: what is Riv-ish when it comes to bike finishing and accessories? 
> For me, a few things:
> - Preference for materials that can be treated or repaired to keep 
> them usable, rather than materials that have to be thrown out when they 
> start to get tired
> - Preference for natural materials like cotton, twine and leather 
> that develop a patina 
> - Designs that don't have large ugly logos, and/or colours that 
> clash with Rivendell's colours
>
> @Everyone else: thanks for your suggestions. 
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
> On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 18:02, Sean B.  wrote:
>
>> I use one of the mini protectors from Blue Lug to keep my bar end 
>> shifters from scratching the TT . They also make full top tube protectors 
>> too. 
>>
>> https://global.bluelug.com/accessories/frame-pad.html
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 10:01:52 AM UTC-5 Drw wrote:
>>
>>> If you were looking for just protection from handlebars flopping into 
>>> the top tube, the pake protector works really well, is small and not 
>>> incredibly noticeable...though i wish it was unbranded.
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:54:10 AM UTC-7 Leslie Tierstein wrote:
>>>
 I don't know what you mean by "Riv-ish".  My favorite top tube 
 protector is by Green Guru, marketed to messengers to help them carry the 
 bike on their shoulders.  Velcro closure, not too much padding. 
 Unfortunately, it is currently sold out:
 Top Tube Protector - Green Guru Gear 
 

 Leslie Tierstein
 Arlington VA

 On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello,
>
> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>
> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to 
> peel off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from 
> an environmental perspective. 
>
> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very 
> good match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>
> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem 
> to fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>
> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of 
> their TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not 
> easily removable once it's been done. 
>
> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like 
> Carradice waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've 
> not 
> found anyone who makes something like that.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-06 Thread Den John
@Sean B: Those Blue Lug pads are exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
I may see if my wife can produce something similar with her sewing
machine...

@Johnny Alien: I saw someone at the Eroica in Italy who had done his whole
handlebar with twine. It looked cool but I thought no way I'd try it. Even
taping bars with normal tape tends to drive me demented.

@Leslie: what is Riv-ish when it comes to bike finishing and accessories?
For me, a few things:
- Preference for materials that can be treated or repaired to keep
them usable, rather than materials that have to be thrown out when they
start to get tired
- Preference for natural materials like cotton, twine and leather
that develop a patina
- Designs that don't have large ugly logos, and/or colours that
clash with Rivendell's colours

@Everyone else: thanks for your suggestions.

Cheers,
Johnny

On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 18:02, Sean B.  wrote:

> I use one of the mini protectors from Blue Lug to keep my bar end shifters
> from scratching the TT . They also make full top tube protectors too.
>
> https://global.bluelug.com/accessories/frame-pad.html
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 10:01:52 AM UTC-5 Drw wrote:
>
>> If you were looking for just protection from handlebars flopping into the
>> top tube, the pake protector works really well, is small and not incredibly
>> noticeable...though i wish it was unbranded.
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:54:10 AM UTC-7 Leslie Tierstein wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know what you mean by "Riv-ish".  My favorite top tube protector
>>> is by Green Guru, marketed to messengers to help them carry the bike on
>>> their shoulders.  Velcro closure, not too much padding. Unfortunately, it
>>> is currently sold out:
>>> Top Tube Protector - Green Guru Gear
>>> 
>>>
>>> Leslie Tierstein
>>> Arlington VA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes?

 Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to
 peel off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from
 an environmental perspective.

 BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very
 good match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment.

 I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem
 to fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo
 Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A
 home made leather TT cover might work I suppose.

 I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of
 their TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not
 easily removable once it's been done.

 What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice
 waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found
 anyone who makes something like that.

 Any other ideas?

 Cheers,
 Johnny


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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-06 Thread Sean B.
I use one of the mini protectors from Blue Lug to keep my bar end shifters 
from scratching the TT . They also make full top tube protectors too. 

https://global.bluelug.com/accessories/frame-pad.html

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 10:01:52 AM UTC-5 Drw wrote:

> If you were looking for just protection from handlebars flopping into the 
> top tube, the pake protector works really well, is small and not incredibly 
> noticeable...though i wish it was unbranded.
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:54:10 AM UTC-7 Leslie Tierstein wrote:
>
>> I don't know what you mean by "Riv-ish".  My favorite top tube protector 
>> is by Green Guru, marketed to messengers to help them carry the bike on 
>> their shoulders.  Velcro closure, not too much padding. Unfortunately, it 
>> is currently sold out:
>> Top Tube Protector - Green Guru Gear 
>> 
>>
>> Leslie Tierstein
>> Arlington VA
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>>>
>>> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to 
>>> peel off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from 
>>> an environmental perspective. 
>>>
>>> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very 
>>> good match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>>>
>>> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
>>> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
>>> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
>>> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>>>
>>> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
>>> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
>>> removable once it's been done. 
>>>
>>> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
>>> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
>>> anyone who makes something like that.
>>>
>>> Any other ideas?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Johnny
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-06 Thread Drw
If you were looking for just protection from handlebars flopping into the 
top tube, the pake protector works really well, is small and not incredibly 
noticeable...though i wish it was unbranded.
On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:54:10 AM UTC-7 Leslie Tierstein wrote:

> I don't know what you mean by "Riv-ish".  My favorite top tube protector 
> is by Green Guru, marketed to messengers to help them carry the bike on 
> their shoulders.  Velcro closure, not too much padding. Unfortunately, it 
> is currently sold out:
> Top Tube Protector - Green Guru Gear 
> 
>
> Leslie Tierstein
> Arlington VA
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>>
>> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
>> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
>> environmental perspective. 
>>
>> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
>> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>>
>> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
>> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
>> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
>> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>>
>> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
>> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
>> removable once it's been done. 
>>
>> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
>> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
>> anyone who makes something like that.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-06 Thread Leslie Tierstein
I don't know what you mean by "Riv-ish".  My favorite top tube protector is 
by Green Guru, marketed to messengers to help them carry the bike on their 
shoulders.  Velcro closure, not too much padding. Unfortunately, it is 
currently sold out:
Top Tube Protector - Green Guru Gear 


Leslie Tierstein
Arlington VA

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello,
>
> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>
> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
> environmental perspective. 
>
> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>
> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>
> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
> removable once it's been done. 
>
> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
> anyone who makes something like that.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-06 Thread Michael Morrissey
Here’s the twine instructions from Rivendell:

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzehUKAztnO8MzEwYWZiYjItY2NlNC00MWM3LWI0ODItZmY5MzBmMDJkMjU2


On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 8:41:23 AM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Great question. My top tube is looking not so fresh any more. I am going 
> to change things up a bit. First, I just bought little bolt on adaptors 
> that allow you to run a full cabled brake cable on the top. I carry my bike 
> up and down stairs all the time so I want to do this. 
> These are the adaptors:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Juscycling-Hydraulic-Housing-Adaptor-Conversion/dp/B07L21FBX3
>
> Next, I’ll either sticker the spots that commonly rub against bike racks, 
> or I’ll wrap some of it in twine like Rivendell commonly does. 
>
> Last option is buying a top tube pad or frame bag. I normally just run one 
> Ortlieb bag though and don’t often need more storage. 
>
> Michael 
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>>
>> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
>> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
>> environmental perspective. 
>>
>> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
>> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>>
>> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
>> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
>> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
>> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>>
>> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
>> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
>> removable once it's been done. 
>>
>> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
>> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
>> anyone who makes something like that.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-06 Thread Michael Morrissey
Hi!

Great question. My top tube is looking not so fresh any more. I am going to 
change things up a bit. First, I just bought little bolt on adaptors that 
allow you to run a full cabled brake cable on the top. I carry my bike up 
and down stairs all the time so I want to do this. 
These are the adaptors:
https://www.amazon.com/Juscycling-Hydraulic-Housing-Adaptor-Conversion/dp/B07L21FBX3

Next, I’ll either sticker the spots that commonly rub against bike racks, 
or I’ll wrap some of it in twine like Rivendell commonly does. 

Last option is buying a top tube pad or frame bag. I normally just run one 
Ortlieb bag though and don’t often need more storage. 

Michael 

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello,
>
> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>
> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
> environmental perspective. 
>
> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>
> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>
> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
> removable once it's been done. 
>
> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
> anyone who makes something like that.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-06 Thread Johnny Alien
One time I did it with all twine and then shellac'd it.  Reasoning in my 
mind was that the bar tape would be hard to get off (as you mentioned) and 
that twine would be easy to remove. Regardless of reasoning it took me a 
long time to wrap twine for that length and I would likely never do it 
again.

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello,
>
> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>
> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
> environmental perspective. 
>
> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>
> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>
> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
> removable once it's been done. 
>
> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
> anyone who makes something like that.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
>
>

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