subject:"\[RBW\] Re\: Rivendell Roadbike Curious"

@Sally...custom Erickson...that's a nice find, too!

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 9:20:27 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:

> I think Bill's onto something. I've never owned a Trek, but I did (still 
> have it, in fact) own a T600 or 700 Cannondale I bought in 1988 for the 
> ridiculously low price of ~$600 CAD. It was a bit of an oddball with 271/4 
> wheel size instead of 700c and came with a very decent component spec; 
> Deore derailleurs and triple crank , 600 hubs and brakes, nitto,TTT 
> bars...really a  very  nice  bike. Maybe because it was red...but great 
> touring bike (yes,  we do have some hills in Manitoba) and really fun 
> unloaded...kind of a sport-touring vibe. In fact, for most road riding; I 
> found it way more comfortable than my Rossin. I gave it to my late partner, 
> who put moustache bars on it...and BTW if drops don't float your boat , you 
> might like moustache/albastache bars. 
>
> $325 is a small price to pay for an experiment. I do rather like that 
> color. I know Trek is like the evil empire, but man, they did make some 
> nice bikes in the 80s and 90s. OTOH...if Bill is willing to spend time with 
> you to help you find something, you should definitely take him up on it 
> because he knows what he's talking about. 
>
> Next priority is you'll have to build an extension on your garage to keep 
> the fleet safe and dry :)
>
> BTW...can't wait to see the purple platy once you have it all built up.
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 8:46:48 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Leah
>>
>> Here's an exceptionally good value on an exceedingly solid road bike that 
>> could hold you over while you wait for the perfect Rivendell, -AND/OR- to 
>> act as a  test platform for the unknown parts of a potential build concept. 
>>  This is the kind of value I'd try to sniff out for you:
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-52cm-trek-usa-purple/7721534636.html
>>
>> I don't know for sure it's the right size but I do know I'm 5'10" and 
>> would ride the 58 in that model.  
>>
>> BL
>>
>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 6:12:20 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bill, I think I would love an albastache build. I ALSO like the idea of 
>>> you being my personal shopper. I think I’m pretty biased to staying with 
>>> Riv; I can’t be hurting Grant’s feelings, you know. But I love this 
>>> Michigan connection! If we did get a road bike and you got all kinds of 
>>> say-so in the build then you would for sure have to say APPROVE when I post 
>>> it on the List. Very gratifying, indeed.
>>>
>>> On Apr 20, 2024, at 4:52 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>> My previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road 
>>> bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  After 
>>> selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my 
>>> Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was 
>>> the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more 
>>> than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c 
>>> randonneuse.  
>>>
>>> Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my 
>>> best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The newer 
>>> batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".  
>>>
>>> I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend 
>>> casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had 
>>> at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist 
>>> and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your 
>>> personal shopper.  :)
>>>
>>> Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up 
>>> with an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a 
>>> placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and 
>>> then you'll have both!  
>>>
>>> Do let me know if you want more advice
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
 roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
 Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
 going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
 but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
 ideal. 

 Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
 Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what 
 size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. 
 I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.

 Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does 
 take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach 
 stem

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

I think Bill's onto something. I've never owned a Trek, but I did (still 
have it, in fact) own a T600 or 700 Cannondale I bought in 1988 for the 
ridiculously low price of ~$600 CAD. It was a bit of an oddball with 271/4 
wheel size instead of 700c and came with a very decent component spec; 
Deore derailleurs and triple crank , 600 hubs and brakes, nitto,TTT 
bars...really a  very  nice  bike. Maybe because it was red...but great 
touring bike (yes,  we do have some hills in Manitoba) and really fun 
unloaded...kind of a sport-touring vibe. In fact, for most road riding; I 
found it way more comfortable than my Rossin. I gave it to my late partner, 
who put moustache bars on it...and BTW if drops don't float your boat , you 
might like moustache/albastache bars. 

$325 is a small price to pay for an experiment. I do rather like that 
color. I know Trek is like the evil empire, but man, they did make some 
nice bikes in the 80s and 90s. OTOH...if Bill is willing to spend time with 
you to help you find something, you should definitely take him up on it 
because he knows what he's talking about. 

Next priority is you'll have to build an extension on your garage to keep 
the fleet safe and dry :)

BTW...can't wait to see the purple platy once you have it all built up.

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 8:46:48 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Leah
>
> Here's an exceptionally good value on an exceedingly solid road bike that 
> could hold you over while you wait for the perfect Rivendell, -AND/OR- to 
> act as a  test platform for the unknown parts of a potential build concept. 
>  This is the kind of value I'd try to sniff out for you:
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-52cm-trek-usa-purple/7721534636.html
>
> I don't know for sure it's the right size but I do know I'm 5'10" and 
> would ride the 58 in that model.  
>
> BL
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 6:12:20 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Bill, I think I would love an albastache build. I ALSO like the idea of 
>> you being my personal shopper. I think I’m pretty biased to staying with 
>> Riv; I can’t be hurting Grant’s feelings, you know. But I love this 
>> Michigan connection! If we did get a road bike and you got all kinds of 
>> say-so in the build then you would for sure have to say APPROVE when I post 
>> it on the List. Very gratifying, indeed.
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2024, at 4:52 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
>> My previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road 
>> bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  After 
>> selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my 
>> Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was 
>> the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more 
>> than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c 
>> randonneuse.  
>>
>> Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my 
>> best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The newer 
>> batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".  
>>
>> I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend 
>> casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had 
>> at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist 
>> and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your 
>> personal shopper.  :)
>>
>> Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up 
>> with an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a 
>> placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and 
>> then you'll have both!  
>>
>> Do let me know if you want more advice
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
>>> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
>>> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
>>> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
>>> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
>>> ideal. 
>>>
>>> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
>>> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what 
>>> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. 
>>> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>>>
>>> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does 
>>> take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach 
>>> stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out 
>>> of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate 
>>> was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed 
>>> it

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Sally Bidleman

Hi Leah,

I have nothing technical to add, per usual; BUT I do have a "new"
30-year-old custom Erickson road bike I bought recently. (My husband and I
share a Clem and a Platypus also.)

The Erickson happened to fit me perfectly, is steel and stable, but very
light and it moves like the wind! It's pure art in form and function.

I ride the Platypus most since it goes over everything easily and smoothly
and is so comfortable...and when my husband and I ride together, we can
switch off Rivs mid-ride for fun! But I am so thankful I can have both the
road bike and the Riv bike.

I think you'd love the experience of having a road bike, Riv or otherwise!

Best to you!
Sally


On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 6:46 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Leah
>
> Here's an exceptionally good value on an exceedingly solid road bike that
> could hold you over while you wait for the perfect Rivendell, -AND/OR- to
> act as a  test platform for the unknown parts of a potential build
> concept.  This is the kind of value I'd try to sniff out for you:
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-52cm-trek-usa-purple/7721534636.html
>
> I don't know for sure it's the right size but I do know I'm 5'10" and
> would ride the 58 in that model.
>
> BL
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 6:12:20 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> Bill, I think I would love an albastache build. I ALSO like the idea of
>> you being my personal shopper. I think I’m pretty biased to staying with
>> Riv; I can’t be hurting Grant’s feelings, you know. But I love this
>> Michigan connection! If we did get a road bike and you got all kinds of
>> say-so in the build then you would for sure have to say APPROVE when I post
>> it on the List. Very gratifying, indeed.
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2024, at 4:52 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
>> My previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road
>> bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  After
>> selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my
>> Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was
>> the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more
>> than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c
>> randonneuse.
>>
>> Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my
>> best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The newer
>> batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".
>>
>> I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend
>> casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had
>> at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist
>> and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your
>> personal shopper.  :)
>>
>> Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up
>> with an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a
>> placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and
>> then you'll have both!
>>
>> Do let me know if you want more advice
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell
>>> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the
>>> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is
>>> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great
>>> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be
>>> ideal.
>>>
>>> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a
>>> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what
>>> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before.
>>> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>>>
>>> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does
>>> take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach
>>> stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out
>>> of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate
>>> was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed
>>> it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m
>>> the youngest and probably the most fit.
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

Would they love it as a road bike? Or is it kind of all-purpose? Thanks!On Apr 20, 2024, at 7:56 PM, Johnny Alien wrote:Probably a bit of a wait for a Gallop but the slightly lower top tube could give it an edge over standard road frames. I have the swoopy prototype and if it rides the same people are going to love it.On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 7:23:36 PM UTC-4 bei...@gmail.com wrote:Leah I was psyched to see this post because you were the #1 influence on me to get a Platypus (besides Lance who sold it to me! Thanks, Lance!). Besides the Platy, which is for around town and gravel and kid-hauling, I also ride my father-in-laws 1990-something Merlin road bike in occasional club rides and races. I love the Platy for all the already mentioned reasons in this Bunch, and love the snappy, fast, titanium Merlin, but always wish the fork was a bit heavier (and not carbon) and that the chainstays were a hair longer (and didn’t limit the rear tire to 25mm). I almost jumped on a used Roadeo in my size a month or so ago and am extremely Roadini curious. I wonder if you say the roadini “doesn’t offer enough of a change” for you because you think it’s not different enough from the Platy? I would think the Roadini is closer to the Roadeo or a Rambouillet than the Gallop will be. From the August 2023 blahg, the Gallop looks like a mix between a Platy and a Roadini. when I see that Homer Jim shared in your size as a web special my first thought was, “THAT’S IT!,” but I think you should give a ”real” “road bike” a shot rather than a “country bike” like a Sam or a Homer, since your Platy’s are in that category. Thanks for your contributions Leah and have fun finding your next “Save me from the wind on club rides!” Bike! ChristianBoulder, COPS: Gallop pics in this blagh:https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/august?_pos=11&_sid=e1163b89a&_ss=rOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:58:44 PM UTC-6 Jim M. wrote:I think the Roadeo is the raciest road bike Riv has made. I've seen one 56cm that was built up to 18.5 lbs with pedals. But if you're looking beyond the weight weenie category, there are lots of other options. Rambouillet, Redwood, and Romulus come to mind. And if you're not fixed on 700 wheels, you've got the Hilsen, Saluki, and Bleriot. I had a road wheelset for my Legolas, which I used for club rides and randonneuring. I wouldn't hesitate to put drop bars on my Bleriot and turn it into a randonneur too. And how could I forget the Hillborne? Also very roadable. There's a 51 dropbar Homer on the web special page https://www.rivbike.com/products/51cm-homer-dark-gold-antonios-dropbar-pick if that's your size.jim mwalnut creek caOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Bill Lindsay

Leah

Here's an exceptionally good value on an exceedingly solid road bike that 
could hold you over while you wait for the perfect Rivendell, -AND/OR- to 
act as a  test platform for the unknown parts of a potential build concept. 
 This is the kind of value I'd try to sniff out for you:

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-52cm-trek-usa-purple/7721534636.html

I don't know for sure it's the right size but I do know I'm 5'10" and would 
ride the 58 in that model.  

BL

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 6:12:20 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Bill, I think I would love an albastache build. I ALSO like the idea of 
> you being my personal shopper. I think I’m pretty biased to staying with 
> Riv; I can’t be hurting Grant’s feelings, you know. But I love this 
> Michigan connection! If we did get a road bike and you got all kinds of 
> say-so in the build then you would for sure have to say APPROVE when I post 
> it on the List. Very gratifying, indeed.
>
> On Apr 20, 2024, at 4:52 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> Leah
>
>
> My previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road bike, 
> and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  After 
> selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my 
> Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was 
> the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more 
> than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c 
> randonneuse.  
>
> Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my 
> best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The newer 
> batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".  
>
> I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend 
> casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had 
> at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist 
> and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your 
> personal shopper.  :)
>
> Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up 
> with an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a 
> placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and 
> then you'll have both!  
>
> Do let me know if you want more advice
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
>> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
>> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
>> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
>> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
>> ideal. 
>>
>> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
>> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what 
>> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. 
>> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>>
>> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take 
>> a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem 
>> which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. 
>> I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in 
>> the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a 
>> hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the 
>> youngest and probably the most fit. 
>>
>> Leah
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!

Garth, I have never thought about level or sloping top tubes other than I 
just like the mixte design. I did not know this mattered in road biking, 
huh….

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:38:47 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> Hooray for you Leah ! :-)
>
> I think a level top tube would suit you better in the long run as given a 
> good fit, you'll be able to have a good starting point for bar height. Not 
> too high, not too low. You're obliviously fit and flexible, so for road 
> riding use that to your advantage, so to speak. Less air resistance, which 
> is what you're running into, literally. From experience,  sloping TT's are 
> fine if you want to the bars quite high, but if you want them at a more 
> saddle level or below you may not be able to go low enough. It depends on 
> the frame of course. 
>
> A Homer before the TT's were sloped would also work as road bike in 
> addition to the Roadeo. They were technically 1.5 degrees, not enough to 
> care about given a proper fit.  Also Ramboullett frames would work. 
>
> You have such a good level of fitness and sensibilities that you'll be 
> fine, it'll work out as it comes. 
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:33:50 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
>> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
>> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
>> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
>> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
>> ideal. 
>>
>> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
>> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what 
>> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. 
>> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>>
>> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take 
>> a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem 
>> which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. 
>> I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in 
>> the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a 
>> hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the 
>> youngest and probably the most fit. 
>>
>> Leah
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

Christian! Yes, I well remember you and I’m so happy you got that Platypus. Still my favorite bike of all time. Gosh, I would have loved your opinion had you gotten the Roadeo. You asked why I wasn’t keen on the Roadini. I read a couple of reviews online that didn’t give it the most favorable reviews. And some of the descriptions I read (of course the exact words escape me as this was all hastily done early today) made it sound like kind of an all-rounder or something. Like it wasn’t painted as a pure roadbike but more of a bike that was roadish but had town and country capabilities. If the Roadini owners think I got this wrong and want to chime in, wonderful; I’d like to hear it. And I think you would, too. And you’re exactly right about the Homer; I have two RivSisters who LOVE their Homers and rightly so. But I want to look at more of a road bike instead of the country bike. Obviously, I have much to learn.On Apr 20, 2024, at 7:23 PM, Christian B-H wrote:Leah I was psyched to see this post because you were the #1 influence on me to get a Platypus (besides Lance who sold it to me! Thanks, Lance!). Besides the Platy, which is for around town and gravel and kid-hauling, I also ride my father-in-laws 1990-something Merlin road bike in occasional club rides and races. I love the Platy for all the already mentioned reasons in this Bunch, and love the snappy, fast, titanium Merlin, but always wish the fork was a bit heavier (and not carbon) and that the chainstays were a hair longer (and didn’t limit the rear tire to 25mm). I almost jumped on a used Roadeo in my size a month or so ago and am extremely Roadini curious. I wonder if you say the roadini “doesn’t offer enough of a change” for you because you think it’s not different enough from the Platy? I would think the Roadini is closer to the Roadeo or a Rambouillet than the Gallop will be. From the August 2023 blahg, the Gallop looks like a mix between a Platy and a Roadini. when I see that Homer Jim shared in your size as a web special my first thought was, “THAT’S IT!,” but I think you should give a ”real” “road bike” a shot rather than a “country bike” like a Sam or a Homer, since your Platy’s are in that category. Thanks for your contributions Leah and have fun finding your next “Save me from the wind on club rides!” Bike! ChristianBoulder, COPS: Gallop pics in this blagh:https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/august?_pos=11&_sid=e1163b89a&_ss=rOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:58:44 PM UTC-6 Jim M. wrote:I think the Roadeo is the raciest road bike Riv has made. I've seen one 56cm that was built up to 18.5 lbs with pedals. But if you're looking beyond the weight weenie category, there are lots of other options. Rambouillet, Redwood, and Romulus come to mind. And if you're not fixed on 700 wheels, you've got the Hilsen, Saluki, and Bleriot. I had a road wheelset for my Legolas, which I used for club rides and randonneuring. I wouldn't hesitate to put drop bars on my Bleriot and turn it into a randonneur too. And how could I forget the Hillborne? Also very roadable. There's a 51 dropbar Homer on the web special page https://www.rivbike.com/products/51cm-homer-dark-gold-antonios-dropbar-pick if that's your size.jim mwalnut creek caOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

No idea what my stand over height is, nor do I know how to find outOn Apr 20, 2024, at 5:18 PM, George Schick wrote:Actually, what I was more interested in was her stand over height (SOH). Riding a regular road frame bike would require whether or not one could "stand over" the bike's top tube without discomfort. Riv gives the specifics for various past models for this measurement.On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:12:07 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:Ryan - sorry. I don't always see things as clearly with my aged ready-for-cataract surgery eyeballs. Nevertheless, it bears repeating.On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:06:11 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:81 PBH was mentionedOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:04:52 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:There ya go Leah!...Put yourself in Bill's more-than-capable hands and you won't go wrong!On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:LeahMy previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike. After selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was the deal of the century, IMO. The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c randonneuse. Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my best-ever brevet time was on that bike. So I think it's doable. The newer batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie". I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had at a really good price. Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your personal shopper. :)Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up with an albastache build, which may ease you in. Also, having a placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and then you'll have both! Do let me know if you want more adviceBill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

Yes, George, 81cm , and here’s where I have to put a plug in for the cataract surgery. I prep those patients and they are my favorite surgeries because they are SO EASY and the results SO immediate that if you have been putting it off, run, don’t walk to the ophthalmologist. An IV is not required, you don’t even get undressed, there is no pain, it is 15 minutes and BOOM, you’re done.Ok, back to bikes…On Apr 20, 2024, at 5:12 PM, George Schick wrote:Ryan - sorry. I don't always see things as clearly with my aged ready-for-cataract surgery eyeballs. Nevertheless, it bears repeating.On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:06:11 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:81 PBH was mentionedOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:04:52 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:There ya go Leah!...Put yourself in Bill's more-than-capable hands and you won't go wrong!On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:LeahMy previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike. After selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was the deal of the century, IMO. The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c randonneuse. Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my best-ever brevet time was on that bike. So I think it's doable. The newer batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie". I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had at a really good price. Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your personal shopper. :)Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up with an albastache build, which may ease you in. Also, having a placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and then you'll have both! Do let me know if you want more adviceBill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

Bill, I think I would love an albastache build. I ALSO like the idea of you being my personal shopper. I think I’m pretty biased to staying with Riv; I can’t be hurting Grant’s feelings, you know. But I love this Michigan connection! If we did get a road bike and you got all kinds of say-so in the build then you would for sure have to say APPROVE when I post it on the List. Very gratifying, indeed.On Apr 20, 2024, at 4:52 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:LeahMy previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike. After selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was the deal of the century, IMO. The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c randonneuse. Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my best-ever brevet time was on that bike. So I think it's doable. The newer batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie". I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had at a really good price. Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your personal shopper. :)Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up with an albastache build, which may ease you in. Also, having a placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and then you'll have both! Do let me know if you want more adviceBill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Calvin Yolo

I have a 55cm Roadeo with an 83 PBH. Mark said I could have gone with a 56, 
too, but I landed with a comfortable set up using a 7cm stem and drops that 
have a 78mm reach. I usually consider a 7cm stem a little on the short side 
for a road bike, but I have shorter than average arms for my height. I've 
had road bikes in the past with steeper angles and lower bars but my Roadeo 
feels just as fast and more comfortable. You also don't need to use drop 
bars on your Roadeo if you don't want to. I've used flat SimWorks bars with 
Paul thumbies for a while and Rich also has a Roadeo that doesn't use 
drops. When it comes to using the bike for club riding, I think a Roadini 
will feel similar to the Roadeo, but both of those will feel more road-ish 
than the other models.

Lastly, if you decide to opt for a Roadeo, you can't go wrong by calling or 
sending an email to Mark for his advice.

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
> ideal. 
>
> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what 
> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. 
> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>
> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take 
> a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem 
> which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. 
> I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in 
> the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a 
> hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the 
> youngest and probably the most fit. 
>
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Johnny Alien

Probably a bit of a wait for a Gallop but the slightly lower top tube could 
give it an edge over standard road frames. I have the swoopy prototype and 
if it rides the same people are going to love it.

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 7:23:36 PM UTC-4 bei...@gmail.com wrote:

> Leah I was psyched to see this post because you were the #1 influence on 
> me to get a Platypus (besides Lance who sold it to me! Thanks, Lance!). 
> Besides the Platy, which is for around town and gravel and kid-hauling, I 
> also ride my father-in-laws 1990-something Merlin road bike in occasional 
> club rides and races. I love the Platy for all the already mentioned 
> reasons in this Bunch, and love the snappy, fast, titanium Merlin, but 
> always wish the fork was a bit heavier (and not carbon) and that the 
> chainstays were a hair longer (and didn’t limit the rear tire to 25mm). 
>
> I almost jumped on a used Roadeo in my size a month or so ago and am 
> extremely Roadini curious. I wonder if you say the roadini “doesn’t offer 
> enough of a change” for you because you think it’s not different enough 
> from the Platy? I would think the Roadini is closer to the Roadeo or a 
> Rambouillet than the Gallop will be. From the August 2023 blahg, the Gallop 
> looks like a mix between a Platy and a Roadini. 
>
> when I see that Homer Jim shared in your size as a web special my first 
> thought was, “THAT’S IT!,” but I think you should give a ”real” “road bike” 
> a shot rather than a “country bike” like a Sam or a Homer, since your 
> Platy’s are in that category. 
>
> Thanks for your contributions Leah and have fun finding your next “Save me 
> from the wind on club rides!” Bike! 
>
> Christian
> Boulder, CO
>
> PS: Gallop pics in this blagh:
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/august?_pos=11&_sid=e1163b89a&_ss=r
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:58:44 PM UTC-6 Jim M. wrote:
>
> I think the Roadeo is the raciest road bike Riv has made. I've seen one 
> 56cm that was built up to 18.5 lbs with pedals. But if you're looking 
> beyond the weight weenie category, there are lots of other options. 
> Rambouillet, Redwood, and Romulus come to mind. And if you're not fixed on 
> 700 wheels, you've got the Hilsen, Saluki, and Bleriot. I had a road 
> wheelset for my Legolas, which I used for club rides and randonneuring. I 
> wouldn't hesitate to put drop bars on my Bleriot and turn it into a 
> randonneur too. And how could I forget the Hillborne? Also very roadable. 
> There's a 51 dropbar Homer on the web special page 
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/51cm-homer-dark-gold-antonios-dropbar-pick 
> if that's your size.
>
> jim m
> walnut creek ca
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
> ideal. 
>
> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what 
> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. 
> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>
> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take 
> a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem 
> which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. 
> I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in 
> the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a 
> hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the 
> youngest and probably the most fit. 
>
> Leah
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Christian B-H

Leah I was psyched to see this post because you were the #1 influence on me
to get a Platypus (besides Lance who sold it to me! Thanks, Lance!).
Besides the Platy, which is for around town and gravel and kid-hauling, I
also ride my father-in-laws 1990-something Merlin road bike in occasional
club rides and races. I love the Platy for all the already mentioned
reasons in this Bunch, and love the snappy, fast, titanium Merlin, but
always wish the fork was a bit heavier (and not carbon) and that the
chainstays were a hair longer (and didn’t limit the rear tire to 25mm).

I almost jumped on a used Roadeo in my size a month or so ago and am
extremely Roadini curious. I wonder if you say the roadini “doesn’t offer
enough of a change” for you because you think it’s not different enough
from the Platy? I would think the Roadini is closer to the Roadeo or a
Rambouillet than the Gallop will be. From the August 2023 blahg, the Gallop
looks like a mix between a Platy and a Roadini.

when I see that Homer Jim shared in your size as a web special my first
thought was, “THAT’S IT!,” but I think you should give a ”real” “road bike”
a shot rather than a “country bike” like a Sam or a Homer, since your
Platy’s are in that category.

Thanks for your contributions Leah and have fun finding your next “Save me
from the wind on club rides!” Bike!

Christian
Boulder, CO

PS: Gallop pics in this blagh:
https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/august?_pos=11&_sid=e1163b89a&_ss=r

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:58:44 PM UTC-6 Jim M. wrote:

I think the Roadeo is the raciest road bike Riv has made. I've seen one
56cm that was built up to 18.5 lbs with pedals. But if you're looking
beyond the weight weenie category, there are lots of other options.
Rambouillet, Redwood, and Romulus come to mind. And if you're not fixed on
700 wheels, you've got the Hilsen, Saluki, and Bleriot. I had a road
wheelset for my Legolas, which I used for club rides and randonneuring. I
wouldn't hesitate to put drop bars on my Bleriot and turn it into a
randonneur too. And how could I forget the Hillborne? Also very roadable.
There's a 51 dropbar Homer on the web special page
https://www.rivbike.com/products/51cm-homer-dark-gold-antonios-dropbar-pick
if that's your size.

jim m
walnut creek ca

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
wrote:

I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell
roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the
Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is
going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great
but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be
ideal.

Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a
Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what
size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before.
I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.

Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a
toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem
which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me.
I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in
the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a
hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the
youngest and probably the most fit.

Leah

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Jim M.

I think the Roadeo is the raciest road bike Riv has made. I've seen one 
56cm that was built up to 18.5 lbs with pedals. But if you're looking 
beyond the weight weenie category, there are lots of other options. 
Rambouillet, Redwood, and Romulus come to mind. And if you're not fixed on 
700 wheels, you've got the Hilsen, Saluki, and Bleriot. I had a road 
wheelset for my Legolas, which I used for club rides and randonneuring. I 
wouldn't hesitate to put drop bars on my Bleriot and turn it into a 
randonneur too. And how could I forget the Hillborne? Also very roadable. 
There's a 51 dropbar Homer on the web special 
page 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/51cm-homer-dark-gold-antonios-dropbar-pick 
if that's your size.

jim m
walnut creek ca

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
> ideal. 
>
> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what 
> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. 
> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>
> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take 
> a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem 
> which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. 
> I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in 
> the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a 
> hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the 
> youngest and probably the most fit. 
>
> Leah
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Brian Turner

I would go with a Roadini, with maybe a Homer or Sam as a second option.On Apr 20, 2024, at 5:42 PM, George Schick wrote:No problem. But the thing is that I have a bike(s) that I could let her ride to see if she could adapt to a "road bike" frame. And I "think" I have ones closed to that dimension that I would be happy to let her test ride to see if they'd work.On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:26:41 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:Sorry @George, I did not mean to come off as rude. The 81 PBH detail just stood out because I seem to recall Leah is around my own height of 5'6''-5'7'' ...but vastly younger (I'm 71) and vastly fitter , of course. So I had to go to my own Riv stud books to see what my PBH was...shortish torso, longer legs and see why Grant put me on a 56 frame. The Rossin for comparison was 53 or 54 and my allrounder was 54. GP would size up for a road frame, as I recallOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:18:33 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:Actually, what I was more interested in was her stand over height (SOH). Riding a regular road frame bike would require whether or not one could "stand over" the bike's top tube without discomfort. Riv gives the specifics for various past models for this measurement.On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:12:07 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:Ryan - sorry. I don't always see things as clearly with my aged ready-for-cataract surgery eyeballs. Nevertheless, it bears repeating.On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:06:11 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:81 PBH was mentionedOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:04:52 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:There ya go Leah!...Put yourself in Bill's more-than-capable hands and you won't go wrong!On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:LeahMy previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike. After selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was the deal of the century, IMO. The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c randonneuse. Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my best-ever brevet time was on that bike. So I think it's doable. The newer batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie". I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had at a really good price. Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your personal shopper. :)Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up with an albastache build, which may ease you in. Also, having a placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and then you'll have both! Do let me know if you want more adviceBill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

No problem.  But the thing is that I have a bike(s) that I could let her 
ride to see if she could adapt to a "road bike" frame.  And I "think" I 
have ones closed to that dimension that I would be happy to let her test 
ride to see if they'd work.

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:26:41 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:

> Sorry @George, I did not mean to come off as rude. The 81 PBH detail just 
> stood out because I seem to recall Leah is around my own height of 
> 5'6''-5'7'' ...but vastly younger (I'm 71) and vastly fitter , of course. 
> So I had to go to my own Riv stud books to see what my PBH was...shortish 
> torso, longer legs and see why Grant put me on a 56 frame. The Rossin for 
> comparison was 53 or 54 and my allrounder was 54. GP would size up for a 
> road frame, as I recall
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:18:33 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>
>> Actually, what I was more interested in was her stand over height (SOH).  
>> Riding a regular road frame bike would require whether or not one could 
>> "stand over" the bike's top tube without discomfort.  Riv gives the 
>> specifics for various past models for this measurement.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:12:07 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>>
>>> Ryan - sorry.  I don't always see things as clearly with my aged 
>>> ready-for-cataract surgery eyeballs.  Nevertheless, it bears repeating.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:06:11 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 81 PBH was mentioned

 On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:04:52 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:

> There ya go Leah!...Put yourself in Bill's more-than-capable hands and 
> you won't go wrong!
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Leah
>>
>> My previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road 
>> bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  
>> After 
>> selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my 
>> Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike 
>> was 
>> the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more 
>> than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c 
>> randonneuse.  
>>
>> Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my 
>> best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The 
>> newer 
>> batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".  
>>
>> I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend 
>> casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be 
>> had 
>> at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist 
>> and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your 
>> personal shopper.  :)
>>
>> Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set 
>> up with an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a 
>> placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and 
>> then you'll have both!  
>>
>> Do let me know if you want more advice
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a 
>>> Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know 
>>> that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no 
>>> idea 
>>> what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one 
>>> looks 
>>> great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which 
>>> would be 
>>> ideal. 
>>>
>>> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has 
>>> a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know 
>>> what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have 
>>> before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>>>
>>> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does 
>>> take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, 
>>> longer-reach 
>>> stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it 
>>> out 
>>> of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart 
>>> rate 
>>> was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else 
>>> agreed 
>>> it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and 
>>> I’m 
>>> the youngest and probably the most fit. 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

Sorry @George, I did not mean to come off as rude. The 81 PBH detail just 
stood out because I seem to recall Leah is around my own height of 
5'6''-5'7'' ...but vastly younger (I'm 71) and vastly fitter , of course. 
So I had to go to my own Riv stud books to see what my PBH was...shortish 
torso, longer legs and see why Grant put me on a 56 frame. The Rossin for 
comparison was 53 or 54 and my allrounder was 54. GP would size up for a 
road frame, as I recall

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:18:33 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> Actually, what I was more interested in was her stand over height (SOH).  
> Riding a regular road frame bike would require whether or not one could 
> "stand over" the bike's top tube without discomfort.  Riv gives the 
> specifics for various past models for this measurement.
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:12:07 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>
>> Ryan - sorry.  I don't always see things as clearly with my aged 
>> ready-for-cataract surgery eyeballs.  Nevertheless, it bears repeating.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:06:11 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> 81 PBH was mentioned
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:04:52 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 There ya go Leah!...Put yourself in Bill's more-than-capable hands and 
 you won't go wrong!

 On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Leah
>
> My previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road 
> bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  
> After 
> selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my 
> Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike 
> was 
> the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more 
> than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c 
> randonneuse.  
>
> Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my 
> best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The 
> newer 
> batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".  
>
> I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend 
> casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be 
> had 
> at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist 
> and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your 
> personal shopper.  :)
>
> Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up 
> with an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a 
> placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and 
> then you'll have both!  
>
> Do let me know if you want more advice
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
>> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
>> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
>> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
>> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
>> ideal. 
>>
>> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
>> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know 
>> what 
>> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have 
>> before. 
>> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>>
>> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does 
>> take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach 
>> stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it 
>> out 
>> of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart 
>> rate 
>> was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else 
>> agreed 
>> it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and 
>> I’m 
>> the youngest and probably the most fit. 
>>
>> Leah
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

Actually, what I was more interested in was her stand over height (SOH).  
Riding a regular road frame bike would require whether or not one could 
"stand over" the bike's top tube without discomfort.  Riv gives the 
specifics for various past models for this measurement.

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:12:07 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> Ryan - sorry.  I don't always see things as clearly with my aged 
> ready-for-cataract surgery eyeballs.  Nevertheless, it bears repeating.
>
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:06:11 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>
>> 81 PBH was mentioned
>>
>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:04:52 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> There ya go Leah!...Put yourself in Bill's more-than-capable hands and 
>>> you won't go wrong!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Leah

 My previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road 
 bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  
 After 
 selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my 
 Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike 
 was 
 the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more 
 than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c 
 randonneuse.  

 Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my 
 best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The 
 newer 
 batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".  

 I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend 
 casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be 
 had 
 at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist 
 and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your 
 personal shopper.  :)

 Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up 
 with an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a 
 placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and 
 then you'll have both!  

 Do let me know if you want more advice

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
> ideal. 
>
> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know 
> what 
> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have 
> before. 
> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>
> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does 
> take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach 
> stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out 
> of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart 
> rate 
> was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed 
> it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and 
> I’m 
> the youngest and probably the most fit. 
>
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Johnny Alien

I doubt the Roadeo is a TON lighter than a Roadini. I think the weight 
details would be in the build more than anything else. As far as bars are 
concerned drops are fun on a road bike but not required. My recommendation 
for a non-drop road setup would be the Albastache bars which are IMO the 
best road bars out there.

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 5:12:07 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:

> Ryan - sorry.  I don't always see things as clearly with my aged 
> ready-for-cataract surgery eyeballs.  Nevertheless, it bears repeating.
>
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:06:11 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>
>> 81 PBH was mentioned
>>
>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:04:52 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> There ya go Leah!...Put yourself in Bill's more-than-capable hands and 
>>> you won't go wrong!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Leah

 My previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road 
 bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  
 After 
 selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my 
 Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike 
 was 
 the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more 
 than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c 
 randonneuse.  

 Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my 
 best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The 
 newer 
 batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".  

 I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend 
 casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be 
 had 
 at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist 
 and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your 
 personal shopper.  :)

 Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up 
 with an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a 
 placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and 
 then you'll have both!  

 Do let me know if you want more advice

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
> ideal. 
>
> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know 
> what 
> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have 
> before. 
> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>
> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does 
> take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach 
> stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out 
> of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart 
> rate 
> was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed 
> it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and 
> I’m 
> the youngest and probably the most fit. 
>
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

Ryan - sorry.  I don't always see things as clearly with my aged 
ready-for-cataract surgery eyeballs.  Nevertheless, it bears repeating.


On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:06:11 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:

> 81 PBH was mentioned
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:04:52 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>
>> There ya go Leah!...Put yourself in Bill's more-than-capable hands and 
>> you won't go wrong!
>>
>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> My previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road 
>>> bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  After 
>>> selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my 
>>> Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was 
>>> the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more 
>>> than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c 
>>> randonneuse.  
>>>
>>> Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my 
>>> best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The newer 
>>> batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".  
>>>
>>> I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend 
>>> casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had 
>>> at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist 
>>> and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your 
>>> personal shopper.  :)
>>>
>>> Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up 
>>> with an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a 
>>> placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and 
>>> then you'll have both!  
>>>
>>> Do let me know if you want more advice
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
 roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
 Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
 going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
 but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
 ideal. 

 Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
 Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what 
 size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. 
 I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.

 Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does 
 take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach 
 stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out 
 of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate 
 was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed 
 it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m 
 the youngest and probably the most fit. 

 Leah

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

81 PBH was mentioned

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:04:52 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:

> There ya go Leah!...Put yourself in Bill's more-than-capable hands and you 
> won't go wrong!
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Leah
>>
>> My previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road 
>> bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  After 
>> selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my 
>> Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was 
>> the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more 
>> than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c 
>> randonneuse.  
>>
>> Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my 
>> best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The newer 
>> batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".  
>>
>> I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend 
>> casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had 
>> at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist 
>> and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your 
>> personal shopper.  :)
>>
>> Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up 
>> with an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a 
>> placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and 
>> then you'll have both!  
>>
>> Do let me know if you want more advice
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
>>> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
>>> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
>>> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
>>> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
>>> ideal. 
>>>
>>> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
>>> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what 
>>> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. 
>>> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>>>
>>> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does 
>>> take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach 
>>> stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out 
>>> of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate 
>>> was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed 
>>> it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m 
>>> the youngest and probably the most fit. 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

There ya go Leah!...Put yourself in Bill's more-than-capable hands and you 
won't go wrong!

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Leah
>
> My previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road bike, 
> and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  After 
> selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my 
> Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was 
> the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more 
> than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c 
> randonneuse.  
>
> Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my 
> best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The newer 
> batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".  
>
> I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend 
> casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had 
> at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist 
> and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your 
> personal shopper.  :)
>
> Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up 
> with an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a 
> placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and 
> then you'll have both!  
>
> Do let me know if you want more advice
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
>> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
>> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
>> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
>> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
>> ideal. 
>>
>> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
>> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what 
>> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. 
>> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>>
>> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take 
>> a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem 
>> which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. 
>> I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in 
>> the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a 
>> hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the 
>> youngest and probably the most fit. 
>>
>> Leah
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

Leah - do you know your PBH or standover height or anything else that might 
contribute to your being able to ride a regular "road bike" with a more or 
less level top tube?  That would help our giving an answer.  Also, do you 
know what your pedal-to-saddle measurement is?  That would be helpful as 
well.


On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
> ideal. 
>
> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what 
> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. 
> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>
> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take 
> a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem 
> which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. 
> I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in 
> the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a 
> hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the 
> youngest and probably the most fit. 
>
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Bill Lindsay

Leah

My previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road bike, 
and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  After 
selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my 
Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was 
the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more 
than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c 
randonneuse.  

Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my 
best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The newer 
batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".  

I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend 
casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had 
at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist 
and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your 
personal shopper.  :)

Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up with 
an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a placeholder 
road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and then you'll 
have both!  

Do let me know if you want more advice

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
> ideal. 
>
> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what 
> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. 
> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>
> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take 
> a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem 
> which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. 
> I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in 
> the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a 
> hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the 
> youngest and probably the most fit. 
>
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious