[RBW] Re: Road Bike with 1x10 or 1x11

[Garth]

Do a 1x8 or 9 if that's what you're used. More gears is not necessarily 
better than less. Being able to spin at different cadences in a given gear 
is a great thing .  I used to be a shiftaholic, trying to maintain a 
certain cadence all the time. Not anymore, I really just don't care to 
shift if I don't really have to.   But hey, I am still using 6 and 7 speed 
freewheels and the times I tried an 8 sp. cassette wheel it felt like one 
cog way too many. After using 6 even 7 seems a bit much. 




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[RBW] Re: Road Bike with 1x10 or 1x11

[JohnS]

Hello Chris,

I have a 1x7 on Salsa Casseroll, works great. My advise would be to have 
the chain ring align with the center cog. That way the chain deflection is 
minimized. Also try to use a chain ring size which would work with the 
center cog to give you a comfortable cruising gear. This way you have an 
even division of higher and lower gears from it. I'm using a 14-34 cassette 
and a 44 chain ring. 

Good luck,
JohnS

On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 1:01:57 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> Was wondering if anyone here has tried this kind of set up on one of Riv's 
> more roadish bikes?  I have a Soma San Marcos with the typical 2 chain 
> rings and was kind of thinking of trying a 1X.  I had a Surly Krampus with 
> a 1X.  If you do have this set up what are your components and do you like 
> it?  My area is flat to rolling hills mostly so I don't have to slay any 
> mountains.  I have most of my other bikes set up (even the Riv's) with an 
> Alfine 8 so I don't think I would feel like I'm too limited with 
> enough gearing options.  Its attractive to me as I tend to prefer simple 
> set ups in general - hence all the IGHs in the stable.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Road Bike with 1x10 or 1x11

[Patrick Moore]

Too bad; photos would have been interesting.

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 8:41 PM, Christopher Murray <
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> Patrick,
>
> I have one lone picture of me standing with my bike in Sandwich, MA. Most
> of my life went undocumented prior to getting an iPhone.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
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Re: [RBW] Re: Road Bike with 1x10 or 1x11

[Christopher Murray]

Patrick,

I have one lone picture of me standing with my bike in Sandwich, MA. Most of my 
life went undocumented prior to getting an iPhone. 

Cheers,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Road Bike with 1x10 or 1x11

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Hey Patrick!  I'm afraid there is nothing epic about my travels.  I stick 
mainly to bike trails around the Chester County PA area.  I do, however, 
need to get on the stick about posting photos on this forum.  I opened the 
google photo storage (whose real name escapes me at the moment).  I'd love 
to show my Riv bikes with the IGH here.

On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 4:57:56 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Chris: Can we see photos of your epic 1X8 tour? Perhaps you've posted and 
> I missed them, but I'd love to see them.
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Christopher Murray  > wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I rode a 1x8 set up from Seattle,WA to Cape Cod, MA towing a bob trailer 
>> with 50+ lbs of gear. It was 4200 miles over 68 days camping and cooking 
>> along the way. Lots of mountains and lots of flats. I imagine it would have 
>> been easier and perhaps a bit faster with a double or triple but it was a 
>> great trip. I figure if you can get across the United States with that set 
>> up you can do pretty much anything.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
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Re: [RBW] Re: Road Bike with 1x10 or 1x11

[Patrick Moore]

Chris: Can we see photos of your epic 1X8 tour? Perhaps you've posted and I
missed them, but I'd love to see them.

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chrispmurra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I rode a 1x8 set up from Seattle,WA to Cape Cod, MA towing a bob trailer
> with 50+ lbs of gear. It was 4200 miles over 68 days camping and cooking
> along the way. Lots of mountains and lots of flats. I imagine it would have
> been easier and perhaps a bit faster with a double or triple but it was a
> great trip. I figure if you can get across the United States with that set
> up you can do pretty much anything.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
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[RBW] Re: Road Bike with 1x10 or 1x11

[Christopher Murray]

Hello,

I rode a 1x8 set up from Seattle,WA to Cape Cod, MA towing a bob trailer with 
50+ lbs of gear. It was 4200 miles over 68 days camping and cooking along the 
way. Lots of mountains and lots of flats. I imagine it would have been easier 
and perhaps a bit faster with a double or triple but it was a great trip. I 
figure if you can get across the United States with that set up you can do 
pretty much anything.

Cheers,
Chris

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[RBW] Re: Road Bike with 1x10 or 1x11

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Thanks to all !  Really useful information here.  I'm really thinking I 
might make the leap.

On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 3:26:23 PM UTC-4, dstein wrote:
>
> I say try it out. I have a 1x10 on my hunqapillar which is mostly seeing 
> road use these days. 42 White Industries ENO with a11-42 Sunrace cassette, 
> though I rarely use the 42t on the rear cassette (mostly because i keep 
> having trouble getting it to stay in that gear when climbing a hill), and I 
> find the other 9 gears 11-36 to be plenty fine. I live in pretty hilly area 
> with 45 minute ascents with a 4-5% grade, and do totally fine with that. 
> It's usually only when i'm on dirt that I start to use that 42t in the 
> rear. Never felt i wasn't fast enough on descents or flats.
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[RBW] Re: Road Bike with 1x10 or 1x11

[dstein]

I say try it out. I have a 1x10 on my hunqapillar which is mostly seeing 
road use these days. 42 White Industries ENO with a11-42 Sunrace cassette, 
though I rarely use the 42t on the rear cassette (mostly because i keep 
having trouble getting it to stay in that gear when climbing a hill), and I 
find the other 9 gears 11-36 to be plenty fine. I live in pretty hilly area 
with 45 minute ascents with a 4-5% grade, and do totally fine with that. 
It's usually only when i'm on dirt that I start to use that 42t in the 
rear. Never felt i wasn't fast enough on descents or flats.

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[RBW] Re: Road Bike with 1x10 or 1x11

[Bill Lindsay]

I ran my 650B A. Homer Hilsen for a while with a 1x9.  38T narrow wide ring 
in front 11-32 cassette.  It was plenty.  I keep surprising myself how low 
of a top gear I can live with.  Jan is a much faster rider than me and 
asserts he's never been dropped on a descent due to not having a high 
enough top gear.  His top gear is a 48x14 which is 94 inches.  38x11 on a 
27.5 inch wheel is 95 inches.  Good enough for Jan, good enough for anybody 
who is not a lot faster than Jan, IMO.  

I found 38x32 to be low enough for most unloaded on-road climbing.  If the 
bike was going to be ridden off-road or loaded I would have wanted lower. 
 I used a friction barcon shifter and a Shimano Deore XT short cage rear 
der.  RD M751-GS 

BL in EC

On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 10:01:57 AM UTC-7, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> Was wondering if anyone here has tried this kind of set up on one of Riv's 
> more roadish bikes?  I have a Soma San Marcos with the typical 2 chain 
> rings and was kind of thinking of trying a 1X.  I had a Surly Krampus with 
> a 1X.  If you do have this set up what are your components and do you like 
> it?  My area is flat to rolling hills mostly so I don't have to slay any 
> mountains.  I have most of my other bikes set up (even the Riv's) with an 
> Alfine 8 so I don't think I would feel like I'm too limited with 
> enough gearing options.  Its attractive to me as I tend to prefer simple 
> set ups in general - hence all the IGHs in the stable.
>

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[RBW] Re: Road Bike with 1x10 or 1x11

[Bob K.]

Big thread over on the iBob list recently regarding 1x drivetrains and touring 
bikes. Some of it may apply to your question: 

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/internet-bob/UotvyN-_a7k

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Re: Road Bike with 1x10 or 1x11

[Philip Kim]

forgot to mention I found the 40t up front with 11-40 sufficient in DC 
area. morning part of my commute is a pretty long uphill climb heading into 
Virginia, i think about a couple of miles, and the 40t cog on the cassette 
is pretty decent.i don't carry much on my commute (change of clothes, 
lunch).

also the Pelican has a 107mm or 108mm bottom bracket I believe.

On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 1:17:28 PM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> I've done the 1x9 on the San Marcos:
>
> 1x9 IRD extra wide cassette (12-40)
> Shimano 105 crank w/ 38t Wolftooth No-drop chain
> Shimano 105 derailleur w/ Wolftooth "Road Link"
> Shimano Ultegra bar end shifters in friction
>
> Here's a pic :
>
>
> 
>
>
> I found the 1x9 gearing easy to shift, but the gaps were a bit too much. 
>
>
> So I went with a 1x10 on a Box Dog Pelican before giving it to my 
> girlfriend
>
> 1x10 Sunrace Cassette (11-40)
> Sugino crankset with Wolftoof 40t no drop chain on the "inside" of the 
> 110bcd arms
> Shimano SLX 10 spd rear derailleur
> Gevenalle GX - Shifters, I got the short pull version
>
> The Gevenalle shifters use the microshifters that are for 10 speed Shimano 
> MTB rear derailleurs. Index flawlessly, and have a larger throw so friction 
> is also easy (YMMV). Very no-fuss set up.
>
> Here's a pic of the BDB Pelican (re-powdered pinkbecause thats what 
> she likes)
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 1:01:57 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>>
>> Was wondering if anyone here has tried this kind of set up on one of 
>> Riv's more roadish bikes?  I have a Soma San Marcos with the typical 2 
>> chain rings and was kind of thinking of trying a 1X.  I had a Surly 
>> Krampus with a 1X.  If you do have this set up what are your components and 
>> do you like it?  My area is flat to rolling hills mostly so I don't have to 
>> slay any mountains.  I have most of my other bikes set up (even the Riv's) 
>> with an Alfine 8 so I don't think I would feel like I'm too limited with 
>> enough gearing options.  Its attractive to me as I tend to prefer simple 
>> set ups in general - hence all the IGHs in the stable.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Road Bike with 1x10 or 1x11

[Philip Kim]

Chris,

I've done the 1x9 on the San Marcos:

1x9 IRD extra wide cassette (12-40)
Shimano 105 crank w/ 38t Wolftooth No-drop chain
Shimano 105 derailleur w/ Wolftooth "Road Link"
Shimano Ultegra bar end shifters in friction

Here's a pic :




I found the 1x9 gearing easy to shift, but the gaps were a bit too much. 


So I went with a 1x10 on a Box Dog Pelican before giving it to my girlfriend

1x10 Sunrace Cassette (11-40)
Sugino crankset with Wolftoof 40t no drop chain on the "inside" of the 
110bcd arms
Shimano SLX 10 spd rear derailleur
Gevenalle GX - Shifters, I got the short pull version

The Gevenalle shifters use the microshifters that are for 10 speed Shimano 
MTB rear derailleurs. Index flawlessly, and have a larger throw so friction 
is also easy (YMMV). Very no-fuss set up.

Here's a pic of the BDB Pelican (re-powdered pinkbecause thats what she 
likes)





On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 1:01:57 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> Was wondering if anyone here has tried this kind of set up on one of Riv's 
> more roadish bikes?  I have a Soma San Marcos with the typical 2 chain 
> rings and was kind of thinking of trying a 1X.  I had a Surly Krampus with 
> a 1X.  If you do have this set up what are your components and do you like 
> it?  My area is flat to rolling hills mostly so I don't have to slay any 
> mountains.  I have most of my other bikes set up (even the Riv's) with an 
> Alfine 8 so I don't think I would feel like I'm too limited with 
> enough gearing options.  Its attractive to me as I tend to prefer simple 
> set ups in general - hence all the IGHs in the stable.
>

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