Re: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation
Here’s an old review of the A600: https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-gear/shimano-a600-pedal-review/ Russell Duncan Leverett, MA On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 12:04:16 PM UTC-5 Julian Westerhout wrote: > Bernard, > > I have used the A520 on several single bikes and on a tandem for many > issue-free miles. Good foot support, they work well, and, IMHO, fit the Riv > aesthetic as well as aclipless pedal can They are also available used in > good shape for not much money, which is a bonus. > > Julian Westerhout > Bloomington, IL > > > > On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 8:42:17 AM UTC-6 ber...@bernardduhon.com > wrote: > >> Any experience with the A 520 pedal which is the precursor of the A 600 & >> es 600 (( not the double sided m 520) >> >> >> >> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *On >> Behalf Of *Piaw Na >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2024 4:48 PM >> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch >> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation >> >> >> >> If you're not going to do serious single track I highly recommend the >> PD-ES600. https://blog.piaw.net/2022/10/review-shimano-pd-es600.html >> >> >> >> My friends were really skeptical that it would make any difference >> compared to the venerable and well respected (deservedly so) M520s, but the >> wings and wider platform definitely make these pedals feel much better >> connected than the M520s, and are the first pedals I've tried that I >> consider a significant improvement over the M520s. My biggest issue with >> them is that you have to mount them with an allen wrench instead of having >> wrench flats. Beware though, they're singled sided (which is what makes the >> connection feel so nice --- the design wouldn't have worked with a >> double-sided pedal, I don't think)! But for paved riding they're really >> awesome. >> >> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 1:13:12 PM UTC-8 Bernard Duhon wrote: >> >> I am in the hunt for a set of dual sided SPD pedals. >> >> I'm going flat on my touring bike but there is too much total overlap on >> one of my bikes to do anything but a clip . >> >> I have been riding the old Onza elastomer SPD's. >> >> >> >> any suggestions? >> >> >> >> Benard >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3e5bef7b-74be-4a91-bfe0-13430ed2451fn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3e5bef7b-74be-4a91-bfe0-13430ed2451fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7fa486ec-ad98-426e-8dc5-fa9f7c391b10n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation
Bernard, I have used the A520 on several single bikes and on a tandem for many issue-free miles. Good foot support, they work well, and, IMHO, fit the Riv aesthetic as well as aclipless pedal can They are also available used in good shape for not much money, which is a bonus. Julian Westerhout Bloomington, IL On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 8:42:17 AM UTC-6 ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote: > Any experience with the A 520 pedal which is the precursor of the A 600 & > es 600 (( not the double sided m 520) > > > > *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *On > Behalf Of *Piaw Na > *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2024 4:48 PM > *To:* RBW Owners Bunch > *Subject:* [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation > > > > If you're not going to do serious single track I highly recommend the > PD-ES600. https://blog.piaw.net/2022/10/review-shimano-pd-es600.html > > > > My friends were really skeptical that it would make any difference > compared to the venerable and well respected (deservedly so) M520s, but the > wings and wider platform definitely make these pedals feel much better > connected than the M520s, and are the first pedals I've tried that I > consider a significant improvement over the M520s. My biggest issue with > them is that you have to mount them with an allen wrench instead of having > wrench flats. Beware though, they're singled sided (which is what makes the > connection feel so nice --- the design wouldn't have worked with a > double-sided pedal, I don't think)! But for paved riding they're really > awesome. > > On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 1:13:12 PM UTC-8 Bernard Duhon wrote: > > I am in the hunt for a set of dual sided SPD pedals. > > I'm going flat on my touring bike but there is too much total overlap on > one of my bikes to do anything but a clip . > > I have been riding the old Onza elastomer SPD's. > > > > any suggestions? > > > > Benard > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3e5bef7b-74be-4a91-bfe0-13430ed2451fn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3e5bef7b-74be-4a91-bfe0-13430ed2451fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/12263fb0-ceeb-4489-a0fe-d016fb3ddf9an%40googlegroups.com.
RE: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation
Any experience with the A 520 pedal which is the precursor of the A 600 & es 600 (( not the double sided m 520) From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Piaw Na Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2024 4:48 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation If you're not going to do serious single track I highly recommend the PD-ES600. https://blog.piaw.net/2022/10/review-shimano-pd-es600.html My friends were really skeptical that it would make any difference compared to the venerable and well respected (deservedly so) M520s, but the wings and wider platform definitely make these pedals feel much better connected than the M520s, and are the first pedals I've tried that I consider a significant improvement over the M520s. My biggest issue with them is that you have to mount them with an allen wrench instead of having wrench flats. Beware though, they're singled sided (which is what makes the connection feel so nice --- the design wouldn't have worked with a double-sided pedal, I don't think)! But for paved riding they're really awesome. On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 1:13:12 PM UTC-8 Bernard Duhon wrote: I am in the hunt for a set of dual sided SPD pedals. I'm going flat on my touring bike but there is too much total overlap on one of my bikes to do anything but a clip . I have been riding the old Onza elastomer SPD's. any suggestions? Benard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3e5bef7b-74be-4a91-bfe0-13430ed2451fn%40googlegroups.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3e5bef7b-74be-4a91-bfe0-13430ed2451fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/SA1PR17MB5491A67D6A1B1D43AC7F800CCD792%40SA1PR17MB5491.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation
Features: - Shimano SM-SH56 SPD Multi-Release Cleats are durable and reliable 2-bolt cleats that allow you to clip out of your pedal by twisting your foot in either direction or by lifting and twisting your heel - Beginner Friendly: Featuring a 13-degree clip-out angle and multi-release functionality that allows you to quickly get out of your pedals when the need arises. These cleats are a great choice for anyone new to clipless pedals - Customizable: Engineered specifically to work with nearly all Shimano SPD pedals, which allow you to micro-adjust the spring force required to clip in and out of your pedals - Secure Engagement: Deliver 4 degrees of float, which assures just the right amount of movement while also providing adequate pedal engagement security - Built to Last: Made from heat treated forged steel that delivers durable long lasting performance even under the most severe riding conditions On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 11:28:41 AM UTC-8 ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote: > I'm a newbie as to Shimano SPD > > what is the difference between the 51 and the 56 cleat? > > > > > > *Attorneys**:* Pursuant to the new LA. C.C.P. art. 1313 (c), please > serve > > *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *On > Behalf Of *eddietheflay > *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 1:26 PM > *To:* RBW Owners Bunch > *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation > > > > Don't overlook the alternate cleats that allow for easier in and out. > > > > https://ride.shimano.com/products/sm-sh56 > > On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:16:34 AM UTC-8 ber...@bernardduhon.com > wrote: > > The only nos A 600 I found was $138.00 on ebay > > > > *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *On > Behalf Of *Toshi Takeuchi > *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2024 9:36 PM > *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation > > > > I recommend using the A600 if you can find them, because (similar to most > road pedals) they return to the upright position with the pedal > perpendicular to the ground, so you can clip in without looking. The ES600 > spins 360, so the pedal can be upside down or any which way when you go to > clip back in, so you might need to rotate the pedal 180 degrees into the > correct position when you clip in. > > > > With that said, I still chose the ES600 when I replaced my Look Keo > pedals, so I can walk around more comfortably and can live with the extra > effort when I clip in. > > > > Toshi > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAGB59xwcB25xakxYrjD0YxKN%2BYbEKSfSVLjNu6o3T4tOGEjFRg%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAGB59xwcB25xakxYrjD0YxKN%2BYbEKSfSVLjNu6o3T4tOGEjFRg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7bb15286-b3a3-4a18-b43b-ef9de22dbc5dn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7bb15286-b3a3-4a18-b43b-ef9de22dbc5dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9785d807-38da-4823-acda-490c3b0d686dn%40googlegroups.com.
RE: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation
I'm a newbie as to Shimano SPD what is the difference between the 51 and the 56 cleat? Attorneys: Pursuant to the new LA. C.C.P. art. 1313 (c), please serve From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of eddietheflay Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 1:26 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation Don't overlook the alternate cleats that allow for easier in and out. https://ride.shimano.com/products/sm-sh56 On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:16:34 AM UTC-8 ber...@bernardduhon.com<mailto:ber...@bernardduhon.com> wrote: The only nos A 600 I found was $138.00 on ebay From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Toshi Takeuchi Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2024 9:36 PM To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation I recommend using the A600 if you can find them, because (similar to most road pedals) they return to the upright position with the pedal perpendicular to the ground, so you can clip in without looking. The ES600 spins 360, so the pedal can be upside down or any which way when you go to clip back in, so you might need to rotate the pedal 180 degrees into the correct position when you clip in. With that said, I still chose the ES600 when I replaced my Look Keo pedals, so I can walk around more comfortably and can live with the extra effort when I clip in. Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAGB59xwcB25xakxYrjD0YxKN%2BYbEKSfSVLjNu6o3T4tOGEjFRg%40mail.gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAGB59xwcB25xakxYrjD0YxKN%2BYbEKSfSVLjNu6o3T4tOGEjFRg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7bb15286-b3a3-4a18-b43b-ef9de22dbc5dn%40googlegroups.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7bb15286-b3a3-4a18-b43b-ef9de22dbc5dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/SA1PR17MB5491F0826151293C9B830EFBCD752%40SA1PR17MB5491.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation
Don't overlook the alternate cleats that allow for easier in and out. https://ride.shimano.com/products/sm-sh56 On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:16:34 AM UTC-8 ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote: > The only nos A 600 I found was $138.00 on ebay > > > > *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *On > Behalf Of *Toshi Takeuchi > *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2024 9:36 PM > *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation > > > > I recommend using the A600 if you can find them, because (similar to most > road pedals) they return to the upright position with the pedal > perpendicular to the ground, so you can clip in without looking. The ES600 > spins 360, so the pedal can be upside down or any which way when you go to > clip back in, so you might need to rotate the pedal 180 degrees into the > correct position when you clip in. > > > > With that said, I still chose the ES600 when I replaced my Look Keo > pedals, so I can walk around more comfortably and can live with the extra > effort when I clip in. > > > > Toshi > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAGB59xwcB25xakxYrjD0YxKN%2BYbEKSfSVLjNu6o3T4tOGEjFRg%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAGB59xwcB25xakxYrjD0YxKN%2BYbEKSfSVLjNu6o3T4tOGEjFRg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7bb15286-b3a3-4a18-b43b-ef9de22dbc5dn%40googlegroups.com.
RE: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation
The only nos A 600 I found was $138.00 on ebay From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Toshi Takeuchi Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2024 9:36 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation I recommend using the A600 if you can find them, because (similar to most road pedals) they return to the upright position with the pedal perpendicular to the ground, so you can clip in without looking. The ES600 spins 360, so the pedal can be upside down or any which way when you go to clip back in, so you might need to rotate the pedal 180 degrees into the correct position when you clip in. With that said, I still chose the ES600 when I replaced my Look Keo pedals, so I can walk around more comfortably and can live with the extra effort when I clip in. Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAGB59xwcB25xakxYrjD0YxKN%2BYbEKSfSVLjNu6o3T4tOGEjFRg%40mail.gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAGB59xwcB25xakxYrjD0YxKN%2BYbEKSfSVLjNu6o3T4tOGEjFRg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/SA1PR17MB5491258B381EF018E6F2CE03CD752%40SA1PR17MB5491.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation
I recommend using the A600 if you can find them, because (similar to most road pedals) they return to the upright position with the pedal perpendicular to the ground, so you can clip in without looking. The ES600 spins 360, so the pedal can be upside down or any which way when you go to clip back in, so you might need to rotate the pedal 180 degrees into the correct position when you clip in. With that said, I still chose the ES600 when I replaced my Look Keo pedals, so I can walk around more comfortably and can live with the extra effort when I clip in. Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAGB59xwcB25xakxYrjD0YxKN%2BYbEKSfSVLjNu6o3T4tOGEjFRg%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation
Thank you for the recommendation Jan Heine used the a600s. The difference is the ES600 sawed off a few millimeters on the back of the pedal. That shrinks your foot platform. do you know if there were any other "improvements "between the A600 and the Es600 Thank you for reminding me of these because I had forgotten. I'll try and find a new old stock version of the A600 only be using this on pavement, gravel & forest road. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Piaw Na Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2024 4:48 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation If you're not going to do serious single track I highly recommend the PD-ES600. https://blog.piaw.net/2022/10/review-shimano-pd-es600.html My friends were really skeptical that it would make any difference compared to the venerable and well respected (deservedly so) M520s, but the wings and wider platform definitely make these pedals feel much better connected than the M520s, and are the first pedals I've tried that I consider a significant improvement over the M520s. My biggest issue with them is that you have to mount them with an allen wrench instead of having wrench flats. Beware though, they're singled sided (which is what makes the connection feel so nice --- the design wouldn't have worked with a double-sided pedal, I don't think)! But for paved riding they're really awesome. On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 1:13:12 PM UTC-8 Bernard Duhon wrote: I am in the hunt for a set of dual sided SPD pedals. I'm going flat on my touring bike but there is too much total overlap on one of my bikes to do anything but a clip . I have been riding the old Onza elastomer SPD's. any suggestions? Benard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3e5bef7b-74be-4a91-bfe0-13430ed2451fn%40googlegroups.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3e5bef7b-74be-4a91-bfe0-13430ed2451fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/SA1PR17MB5491A49D7961E9827CE0A1EBCD752%40SA1PR17MB5491.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
[RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation
If you're not going to do serious single track I highly recommend the PD-ES600. https://blog.piaw.net/2022/10/review-shimano-pd-es600.html My friends were really skeptical that it would make any difference compared to the venerable and well respected (deservedly so) M520s, but the wings and wider platform definitely make these pedals feel much better connected than the M520s, and are the first pedals I've tried that I consider a significant improvement over the M520s. My biggest issue with them is that you have to mount them with an allen wrench instead of having wrench flats. Beware though, they're singled sided (which is what makes the connection feel so nice --- the design wouldn't have worked with a double-sided pedal, I don't think)! But for paved riding they're really awesome. On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 1:13:12 PM UTC-8 Bernard Duhon wrote: > I am in the hunt for a set of dual sided SPD pedals. > I'm going flat on my touring bike but there is too much total overlap on > one of my bikes to do anything but a clip . > I have been riding the old Onza elastomer SPD's. > > any suggestions? > > Benard > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3e5bef7b-74be-4a91-bfe0-13430ed2451fn%40googlegroups.com.
