Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
JuSt a note .. My wife just rode 500 miles on her 61cm Atlantis with medium rear tweed bag loaded to the gills. No shimmy even on high speed decents. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/6050516750/in/set-72157627330044903 Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/F0JhwWjD4LUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
Kelly, great post on your latest tour. Just to note, can you tell me what tires and what headset she's running on her pretty red Atlantis? Next week I'm going to test the 40mm Duremes on the Atlantis to see what differences I can find compared to the 50mm Supremes. In a couple of weeks, when I get a chance, I'll take it to RBW to have Jay replace the Chris King headset for a needle bearing NOS Stronglight I was able to find online. From my single ride with the SlickerSack/Platrack loaded combo on Monday, it seems that the front load significantly reduces the shimmy tendencies. Will need to do some more testing... René On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: JuSt a note .. My wife just rode 500 miles on her 61cm Atlantis with medium rear tweed bag loaded to the gills. No shimmy even on high speed decents. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/6050516750/in/set-72157627330044903 Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/F0JhwWjD4LUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
Hey Darin, I was gone for a few days. The bag is a medium. It does work fine without a support. If you stand up to pedal it sways back and forth a bit. It might be worth getting the large if you're gonna use it with a rack. --mike On Jul 23, 9:47 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Mike, helpful photo. Is that a medium or a large saddle sack? After looking at my setup again its clear Big Rack does ride quite a way to the rear to keep the panniers out of the way. Don't see how the bag will fit on there without flopping over the loop at the front. So, I'll probably get the bag and see how it works and then get a Top Rack if I can't live with the asymmetry of the bag flopped over the front of the rack a la Pondero's setup. The bag is simply too cool not to have and the bike will see far more use with the saddle bag than panniers. On Jul 23, 4:50 am, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: Rene, my 650b AHH is a 56, significantly smaller than your Atlantis. The bag does rest on the front loop of the rack, but sort of molds around it. I guess with my smaller frame it doesn't really look too bad. It is attached at the saddle, and with small bungie cords at the back and rides reasonably stable. It's not ideal, but don't perceive any lost functionality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
Yes, I think you can wing it on smaller frames like you have. I rode with the Sackville panniers today for the first time since I got them. The laptop fits but leaves a largish opening on the top flap. I have it covered with a neoprene sleeve and it didn't appear to get dusty from the ride on the gravel trail. Everything else is covered with a thin layer of dust during the summer months, although I have to say that the fenders help a lot with the dust as well. Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:50 AM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: Rene, my 650b AHH is a 56, significantly smaller than your Atlantis. The bag does rest on the front loop of the rack, but sort of molds around it. I guess with my smaller frame it doesn't really look too bad. It is attached at the saddle, and with small bungie cords at the back and rides reasonably stable. It's not ideal, but don't perceive any lost functionality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
what you need is a nitto q/r saddlebag grip for your medium saddle sack. i have this and it anchors the bag further back at the top, so that it sits plenty far back on my nitto r14 top rack. i also like the q/r, as i use this for commuting and like to bring my bag inside when i shop. for what its worth, i ride a 59 cm blériot. I've used a similar set-up for a good while, mostly with a 57 Blériot, except I had it sitting on a Mark's rack on the rear. The quick release put the bag in the right spot to slip the leather slit over the raised portion of the rack. It worked well for me. Rick. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
Rene, my 650b AHH is a 56, significantly smaller than your Atlantis. The bag does rest on the front loop of the rack, but sort of molds around it. I guess with my smaller frame it doesn't really look too bad. It is attached at the saddle, and with small bungie cords at the back and rides reasonably stable. It's not ideal, but don't perceive any lost functionality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
Mike, helpful photo. Is that a medium or a large saddle sack? After looking at my setup again its clear Big Rack does ride quite a way to the rear to keep the panniers out of the way. Don't see how the bag will fit on there without flopping over the loop at the front. So, I'll probably get the bag and see how it works and then get a Top Rack if I can't live with the asymmetry of the bag flopped over the front of the rack a la Pondero's setup. The bag is simply too cool not to have and the bike will see far more use with the saddle bag than panniers. On Jul 23, 4:50 am, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: Rene, my 650b AHH is a 56, significantly smaller than your Atlantis. The bag does rest on the front loop of the rack, but sort of molds around it. I guess with my smaller frame it doesn't really look too bad. It is attached at the saddle, and with small bungie cords at the back and rides reasonably stable. It's not ideal, but don't perceive any lost functionality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
I've tried it on a couple different racks. The bag simply isn't designed to ride like that. In my opinion, if you're loading it so much that it's causing handling problems, you need a bigger bag suited for a rack. I carry tools, layers, food, etc., in mine unsupported, and it works great. It's on my no rack, no fenders Bstone CB-Zip, and I like the minimalist only what you need look. Joe Bernard Fairfield, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HwOGh4M-z8QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
what you need is a nitto q/r saddlebag grip for your medium saddle sack. i have this and it anchors the bag further back at the top, so that it sits plenty far back on my nitto r14 top rack. i also like the q/r, as i use this for commuting and like to bring my bag inside when i shop. for what its worth, i ride a 59 cm blériot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sfACaCnkPjcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
Hmm, that's a good idea. I had it mounted to a q/r without a rack, and it drooped down in the rear in relation to its seatpost strap because it moved the bag back and down so much. I can see where a rack would have solved that. Of course, I solved it by ditching the q/r, but there ya go.. Joe Bernard Fairfield, CA. On Jul 23, 5:02 pm, Brett Lindenbach brett.lindenb...@gmail.com wrote: what you need is a nitto q/r saddlebag grip for your medium saddle sack. i have this and it anchors the bag further back at the top, so that it sits plenty far back on my nitto r14 top rack. i also like the q/r, as i use this for commuting and like to bring my bag inside when i shop. for what its worth, i ride a 59 cm blériot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
I tried the QR already and it didn't work for me. Rene Sent from my iPhone 4 On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:37 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, that's a good idea. I had it mounted to a q/r without a rack, and it drooped down in the rear in relation to its seatpost strap because it moved the bag back and down so much. I can see where a rack would have solved that. Of course, I solved it by ditching the q/r, but there ya go.. Joe Bernard Fairfield, CA. On Jul 23, 5:02 pm, Brett Lindenbach brett.lindenb...@gmail.com wrote: what you need is a nitto q/r saddlebag grip for your medium saddle sack. i have this and it anchors the bag further back at the top, so that it sits plenty far back on my nitto r14 top rack. i also like the q/r, as i use this for commuting and like to bring my bag inside when i shop. for what its worth, i ride a 59 cm blériot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
I use that set-up on my 56 AHH 650b, and am quite satisfied. Yes, I'd prefer that the bag sit flat on the top of the rack, and not on the loop. But in camping mode, I'm still able to pack everything I need, and with lesser loads, the bag simply molds around the loop. I find that the appearance/mold-to-shape feature improves as the bag ages. I don't have a good direct side view, but here's a photo... http://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/5335988157/in/set-72157622988506313/ I have a few other photos on my blog, if you are in a browsing mood... http://chris-pondero.blogspot.com/ If no one has a better view for you, let me know and I'll get you a side view. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
I also didn't like how it sits so when I installed the Big Rack I removed the medium SaddleSack and got a set of the gray Sackville panniers instead which I'll be trying next week. I also need to carry my 14 laptop on my commute and cannot have it go over the raised handle on the Big Rack, as opposed to camping stuff that could. The final reason I'm exploring a different setup is that on my Atlantis, when I had the SaddleSack loaded with the laptop and other stuff, the bike shimmies as soon as I remove my hands from the bar and sometimes, at speed on bumpy roads, even when my hands are on the bar. The bike doesn't shimmy with the same load on one pannier. Photos will be shared next week. Rene Sent from my iPhone 4 On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: I use that set-up on my 56 AHH 650b, and am quite satisfied. Yes, I'd prefer that the bag sit flat on the top of the rack, and not on the loop. But in camping mode, I'm still able to pack everything I need, and with lesser loads, the bag simply molds around the loop. I find that the appearance/mold-to-shape feature improves as the bag ages. I don't have a good direct side view, but here's a photo... http://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/5335988157/in/set-72157622988506313/ I have a few other photos on my blog, if you are in a browsing mood... http://chris-pondero.blogspot.com/ If no one has a better view for you, let me know and I'll get you a side view. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
Maybe my best side view photo... http://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/5965175849/in/photostream -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
Is that a smaller 650B frame? On my 61 Atlantis, the rack sits much farther back and there is no way to position the bag properly without having to pull it back quite a bit so it sits tilted. Rene Sent from my iPhone 4 On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe my best side view photo... http://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/5965175849/in/photostream -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
It doesn't work well on my Hilsen (63cm) with the Big Nitto Rack but it works great with the Nitto Top Rack. I think it depends on the bike, size and saddle height. Here's mine with the Top Rack: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/4982443897/in/set-72157613195465589 I guess the pictue isn't so great but the two work well together, not perfect, but well. With 2 zip ties the bag is secure and with minimal sway. It is a little annoying without the rack. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
