[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

2017-04-05 Thread Eric Karnes
thanks all!

i'm pretty sure the destroying of the jeans is due to the rough texture of 
the cambium (though it does smooth out the longer you own it) and the rivet 
right at the nose of the saddle. if i can't find a saddle cover that fits, 
i'll try one of those wtb saddles. i'd love a rivet, but this is my daily 
commuter and gets locked up / rained on in center city philadelphia. so the 
cheaper / more weatherproof the better.

eric

On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 4:17:23 PM UTC-4, RJM wrote:
>
> I agree with Johnny here...get a saddle that doesn't bleed dye. There just 
> isn't a reason a saddle has to be made out of leather...plenty of good ones 
> out there that can sit out in the rain and not bleed. 
>
> My cross bike has a WTB saddle and it is comfortable and my road bike had 
> the stock Trek saddle that the Emonda SL6 comes with...and that is also 
> very comfortable. Never had one issue out of those saddles. 
>
> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 6:11:48 AM UTC-5, Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> While the covers will work it seems silly to have a saddle that you can't 
>> use without a cover on it.  Saddles are a personal thing but my usual go to 
>> when it isn't a Brooks is a Fizik Aliante on a road bike and a WTB saddle 
>> for almost anything else.  They are well made, comfortable, cheap and 
>> light.  The Rocket is the one I usually go to and they start as low as $40.
>>
>> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:56:28 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all-
>>>
>>> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne 
>>> commuter. I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in 
>>> very short order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty 
>>> badly). I'd love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but 
>>> this is my main mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in 
>>> my everyday clothes.
>>>
>>> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants 
>>> too easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
>>> distances, as this is my city ride.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

2017-04-05 Thread RJM
I agree with Johnny here...get a saddle that doesn't bleed dye. There just 
isn't a reason a saddle has to be made out of leather...plenty of good ones 
out there that can sit out in the rain and not bleed. 

My cross bike has a WTB saddle and it is comfortable and my road bike had 
the stock Trek saddle that the Emonda SL6 comes with...and that is also 
very comfortable. Never had one issue out of those saddles. 

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 6:11:48 AM UTC-5, Johnny Alien wrote:

> While the covers will work it seems silly to have a saddle that you can't 
> use without a cover on it.  Saddles are a personal thing but my usual go to 
> when it isn't a Brooks is a Fizik Aliante on a road bike and a WTB saddle 
> for almost anything else.  They are well made, comfortable, cheap and 
> light.  The Rocket is the one I usually go to and they start as low as $40.
>
> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:56:28 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>>
>> Hi all-
>>
>> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne 
>> commuter. I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in 
>> very short order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty 
>> badly). I'd love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but 
>> this is my main mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in 
>> my everyday clothes.
>>
>> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
>> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
>> distances, as this is my city ride.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

2017-04-05 Thread 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch
Bailey's Wild Ass Jeans.  Not my first choice for riding, but by far the 
best bang for the buck for work pants.  I have several pairs of the double 
layer for timber work that I do.  

http://www.baileysonline.com/Clothing/Men-s-Clothing/Jeans/Wild-Ass/Wild-Ass-US-Made-Single-Front-Blue-Denim-Logger-Pants.axd
 
 

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:56:28 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter. 
> I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short 
> order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd 
> love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main 
> mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday 
> clothes.
>
> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
> distances, as this is my city ride.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

2017-04-04 Thread Bill in Roswell GA
I know the jeans dilemma. Once you find a brand and model that works, 
change is hard to face. So, if I may offer some food for thought. 

Maybe it's the jeans and how they fit? Perhaps try the Levi's (or other 
brand) cycling jeans that have a hint of lycra in them? 

I got around the Brooks dye bleeding by purchasing an older used one in 
black (when the leather was thick), though not super black like a new one - 
it's well broken in . Don't know what dye process Brooks uses, but my old 
Turbo and Rolls saddles are black leather and never noticed any bleeding 
issue while wearing khaki shorts. Rivet backs up their saddles with a 
warranty, which may make the cost tolerable as an investment. 

Also, have you tried a saddle with a narrower nose just to see if that 
helps? 

Good luck!
Bill in Roswell, GA



On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:56:28 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter. 
> I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short 
> order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd 
> love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main 
> mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday 
> clothes.
>
> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
> distances, as this is my city ride.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

2017-04-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
For me, these wear really well. Made for rubbing and abrasion in a way 
denim is not. They are my main knickers now (my wife cuts um and adds 
elastic.)
http://www.duluthtrading.com/search/searchresults/86125.aspx?kw=fire%20hose%20jeans=content

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:56:28 PM UTC-6, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter. 
> I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short 
> order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd 
> love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main 
> mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday 
> clothes.
>
> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
> distances, as this is my city ride.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

2017-04-04 Thread John Stowe
I have had no issues with staining from my "natural" (undyed) leather 
Brooks. I still wear through crotches on a regular basis, though, even on 
the smooth leather - I just had to "retire" (to gardening duty) another 
pair of shorts last week.

-John


On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:56:28 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter. 
> I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short 
> order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd 
> love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main 
> mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday 
> clothes.
>
> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
> distances, as this is my city ride.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

2017-04-04 Thread John A. Bennett

For those jeans, you can always send them 
to: http://www.indigoproof.com/repair-your-jeans/denim-repair-1

Rain, the owner, works magic here in Portland with vintage sewing machines. 

JAB @ Rivelo in PDX

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 7:56:28 PM UTC-7, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter. 
> I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short 
> order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd 
> love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main 
> mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday 
> clothes.
>
> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
> distances, as this is my city ride.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

2017-04-04 Thread Kevin Lindsey
I second the Rivet.  I have one on my Hunq and another on a Moots go-fast, 
and love 'em.  They're a bit pricey but comfortable and, so far, no 
evidence of bleed.
Kevin


On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 7:31:37 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Rivet. Debbie's great to work with and the saddles are brilliant. I ride a 
> Diablo on both my Hunqa and QB. One white, one black. No bleed ever.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:56:28 PM UTC-6, Eric Karnes wrote:
>>
>> Hi all-
>>
>> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne 
>> commuter. I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in 
>> very short order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty 
>> badly). I'd love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but 
>> this is my main mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in 
>> my everyday clothes.
>>
>> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
>> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
>> distances, as this is my city ride.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

2017-04-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
Rivet. Debbie's great to work with and the saddles are brilliant. I ride a 
Diablo on both my Hunqa and QB. One white, one black. No bleed ever.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:56:28 PM UTC-6, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter. 
> I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short 
> order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd 
> love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main 
> mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday 
> clothes.
>
> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
> distances, as this is my city ride.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

2017-04-04 Thread Johnny Alien
While the covers will work it seems silly to have a saddle that you can't 
use without a cover on it.  Saddles are a personal thing but my usual go to 
when it isn't a Brooks is a Fizik Aliante on a road bike and a WTB saddle 
for almost anything else.  They are well made, comfortable, cheap and 
light.  The Rocket is the one I usually go to and they start as low as $40.

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:56:28 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter. 
> I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short 
> order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd 
> love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main 
> mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday 
> clothes.
>
> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
> distances, as this is my city ride.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

2017-04-03 Thread sameness
Saddle cover! I primarily use the old grey one Riv used to make/sell, but 
the Aardvark works fine, too.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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