[RBW] Re: San Marcos vs ES

2015-07-23 Thread a3inverter
Thanks Nick and Evan for highlighting the 700c tire clearance...

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 9:41:39 PM UTC-4, Evan Baird wrote:
>
> The 650b SM has significantly more clearance than the 700c version. Not 
> sure how the ES compares with 650b wheels, because i never got around to 
> trying that, but bigger is better in my experience.
>

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[RBW] Re: San Marcos vs ES

2015-07-20 Thread Evan Baird
33.3 with a plastic fender. No idea what they were thinking.

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[RBW] Re: San Marcos vs ES

2015-07-19 Thread a3inverter
I have recently read that the 700c San Marcos will only fit 32c tires.  Any 
confirmations?

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 9:41:39 PM UTC-4, Evan Baird wrote:
>
> The 650b SM has significantly more clearance than the 700c version. Not 
> sure how the ES compares with 650b wheels, because i never got around to 
> trying that, but bigger is better in my experience.
>

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[RBW] Re: San Marcos vs ES

2015-07-14 Thread Evan Baird
The 650b SM has significantly more clearance than the 700c version. Not 
sure how the ES compares with 650b wheels, because i never got around to 
trying that, but bigger is better in my experience.

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[RBW] Re: San Marcos vs ES

2015-07-13 Thread Nick Morehouse
No experience with the ES but I have been riding a 59cm SM for about a year 
now.  The first thing I would ask is how important is tire clearance.  I 
have had Jack Brown greens (33.333) and could not fit my aluminum (VO) 
fenders with them.  The brakes were the first things touching but it was 
the depth not the width that was the issue so I don't think new brakes 
would make a big difference.  Probably with some SKS fenders and different 
brakes you could fender the Jack Browns but I just went down to the Roly 
Polys (28).  I have had zero issues since switching but I also don't ride 
rough dirt, occasionally smooth dirt/gravel but the 28s are fine for that.  
As for the bike, I love it, it is the best mix of comfort, smoothness, and 
responsiveness I've ever ridden.  That being said, If I could go back, I 
would have bought a SH so I could have the tire clearance for rougher dirt 
and heavy touring.


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[RBW] Re: San Marcos vs ES

2015-07-10 Thread a3inverter
Yes.  I generally agree with Grant on threaded vs. threadless.  My approach 
to riding is not going to require any compromises if I use a threaded stem 
- honestly, I just like to get out there and ride, I don't need to be 
fastest.  The Technomic reference is from my use of them in my lugged steel 
Treks - I have a mile of stem showing on the largest Trek frame they 
made...my expectation (given the sloping TT and giant head tube) is that I 
wouldn't have as much showing on a 63cm San Marcos.

On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 4:22:23 PM UTC-4, David Person wrote:
>
> I looks like the ES is a threadless steerer/headset while the SM is a 1" 
> threaded steerer/headset, if that makes a difference to you since you 
> mention the uses of a Technomic.
>
> On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 8:03:11 AM UTC-7, a3inverter wrote:
>>
>> Greetings all,
>>
>> I've been interested in the San Marcos (in 63cm) for a year or so now and 
>> a combination of some aggressive pricing and available fundage has me very 
>> close to buying one, however, would like to hear from the bunch regarding 
>> any comparisons to the Soma ES.  The ES is a bit cheaper ($125) and might 
>> fit slightly bigger tires.
>>
>> My priorities are:
>> A comfortable, well-fitting ride - 94cm PBH here and the 25.5in steel 
>> Treks that I ride today (460,560,400) have plenty of Technomic showing to 
>> get to level saddle and bars
>> Room for bigger tires - Room for 38c should do.  I had 29x2's on my 62cm 
>> LHT and while the tires could handle anything, the geometry really didn't 
>> work for the rough stuff.
>> Light-ish - While the LHT did fit, it felt dead and heavy.
>>
>> Interested in your feedback...Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: San Marcos vs ES

2015-07-08 Thread David Person
I looks like the ES is a threadless steerer/headset while the SM is a 1" 
threaded steerer/headset, if that makes a difference to you since you 
mention the uses of a Technomic.

On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 8:03:11 AM UTC-7, a3inverter wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
> I've been interested in the San Marcos (in 63cm) for a year or so now and 
> a combination of some aggressive pricing and available fundage has me very 
> close to buying one, however, would like to hear from the bunch regarding 
> any comparisons to the Soma ES.  The ES is a bit cheaper ($125) and might 
> fit slightly bigger tires.
>
> My priorities are:
> A comfortable, well-fitting ride - 94cm PBH here and the 25.5in steel 
> Treks that I ride today (460,560,400) have plenty of Technomic showing to 
> get to level saddle and bars
> Room for bigger tires - Room for 38c should do.  I had 29x2's on my 62cm 
> LHT and while the tires could handle anything, the geometry really didn't 
> work for the rough stuff.
> Light-ish - While the LHT did fit, it felt dead and heavy.
>
> Interested in your feedback...Thanks!
>
>
>
>

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