[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B
Got my first flat in a year and a half on CdlVs after our So Cal +24O last weekend - woke up Monday morning after 160 miles Sat Sun and a thorn had deflated the rear tire overnight. I really like the CdlVs - I don't know what else I could ask of them - especially for the price. I have no experience with the Middys - but I would love to see a Big Apple for my Rawland. LOVE to see that. Schwalbe out to bring to market more tires, I agree. Are Hetres really the cat's meow? On Jul 6, 9:30 am, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: Is this the Marathon HC that everyone is talking about/ Kathryn Eugene, OR On Jul 5, 10:07 pm, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: I got about 3 months on the Schwalbe Marathons (650b) and I like them a lot. I converted from CDlv's and to be honest I really can tell much difference. My biggest gripe with the CDLVs was that they were a major pain to mount and some of them appeared to have a built-in wobble. The Marathons mount easily, ride comfortably, and (best of all) no flats yet. On Jul 5, 6:32 pm, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to hold out for a Marathon Supreme in 650b. Given the market for $50+ (I have trouble paying auto tire prices for bicycle tires, personally) 650b tires, I think Schwalbe missed the boat manufacturing the ho-hum Middy that competes in price with the 105/Ultegra standard Col de la Vie. Street prices of the CdV are tough to beat for performance; I have trouble justifying automobile tire prices on a bicycle -- wasn't there at least one contributor on an ancillary list who traded in some of those very colorful and expensive tires, returning to CdVs, sensing no discernable difference? Tempted to trade up from CdVs to a more durable tire, (superstitions aside) we've had phenomenal flat free performance these last six months with ours (two Bleriots); that's about 2500 mi. Then again, I'm eyeing the street price of Fatty Rumpkins ... Cheers, Chris Tucson, AZ On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Actually just noticed Schwalbe is now selling a basic Marathin 650b. No Supreme, Big Apple, Fat frank or Ultremo yet though. On Jul 5, 8:00 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Schwalbe are justifiably popular with distance tourers, mountain bikers, and among specialty bike - folders, recumbents, adult trikes - owners. Schwalbe 650b offering is relatively recent. It will be interesting to see whether it starts offering some of its mainstay tires as 650b. Of course those would cost a lot more than the one Riv is selling now. On Jul 5, 1:25 pm, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would be a 40mm Pasela. Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came from. I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Kathryn Eugene, OR On Jul 4, 11:23 am, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't see any discussion on the archives about these tires. Anyone ridden them? Or the fatty 650Bs from Schwalbe that Riv sells? I'm anxious to try a fat tire, and would like the Hetre were it not for the $62 price tag. I realize these Schwalbes may not compare, but I'd like some input on how they ride. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B
I'm a believer in Schwalbe Marathon Supremes. Been running 35s on my Atlantis for nearly 6,000 miles with zero flats (knock wood!). Flat resistance is my first priority, then wear. The rear is worn out and the front still has life in it. At 50-60 psi, they're comfy IMO but I've never ridden the above mentioned tires. On the subject of cost, most tires have gone up a LOT in the last year, so $50-$70 for a high quality tire is common. Doug Peterson On Jul 6, 10:10 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Got my first flat in a year and a half on CdlVs after our So Cal +24O last weekend - woke up Monday morning after 160 miles Sat Sun and a thorn had deflated the rear tire overnight. I really like the CdlVs - I don't know what else I could ask of them - especially for the price. I have no experience with the Middys - but I would love to see a Big Apple for my Rawland. LOVE to see that. Schwalbe out to bring to market more tires, I agree. Are Hetres really the cat's meow? On Jul 6, 9:30 am, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: Is this the Marathon HC that everyone is talking about/ Kathryn Eugene, OR On Jul 5, 10:07 pm, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: I got about 3 months on the Schwalbe Marathons (650b) and I like them a lot. I converted from CDlv's and to be honest I really can tell much difference. My biggest gripe with the CDLVs was that they were a major pain to mount and some of them appeared to have a built-in wobble. The Marathons mount easily, ride comfortably, and (best of all) no flats yet. On Jul 5, 6:32 pm, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to hold out for a Marathon Supreme in 650b. Given the market for $50+ (I have trouble paying auto tire prices for bicycle tires, personally) 650b tires, I think Schwalbe missed the boat manufacturing the ho-hum Middy that competes in price with the 105/Ultegra standard Col de la Vie. Street prices of the CdV are tough to beat for performance; I have trouble justifying automobile tire prices on a bicycle -- wasn't there at least one contributor on an ancillary list who traded in some of those very colorful and expensive tires, returning to CdVs, sensing no discernable difference? Tempted to trade up from CdVs to a more durable tire, (superstitions aside) we've had phenomenal flat free performance these last six months with ours (two Bleriots); that's about 2500 mi. Then again, I'm eyeing the street price of Fatty Rumpkins ... Cheers, Chris Tucson, AZ On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Actually just noticed Schwalbe is now selling a basic Marathin 650b. No Supreme, Big Apple, Fat frank or Ultremo yet though. On Jul 5, 8:00 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Schwalbe are justifiably popular with distance tourers, mountain bikers, and among specialty bike - folders, recumbents, adult trikes - owners. Schwalbe 650b offering is relatively recent. It will be interesting to see whether it starts offering some of its mainstay tires as 650b. Of course those would cost a lot more than the one Riv is selling now. On Jul 5, 1:25 pm, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would be a 40mm Pasela. Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came from. I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Kathryn Eugene, OR On Jul 4, 11:23 am, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't see any discussion on the archives about these tires. Anyone ridden them? Or the fatty 650Bs from Schwalbe that Riv sells? I'm anxious to try a fat tire, and would like the Hetre were it not for the $62 price tag. I realize these Schwalbes may not compare, but I'd like some input on how they ride. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B
On Jul 6, 1:10 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Are Hetres really the cat's meow? the hetre offers an exceptional blend of speed, comfort, versatility and durability. cat's meow? maybe - depends on personal preferences. fun and unique? absolutely. lately, i'm most impressed with their durability. full brevet series on them this year (and numerous training rides, including lots of dirt) - no flats and they are wearing incredibly well. for whatever reason, however, I'm enjoying a much longer life out the black ones than I did with the red ones. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B
On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 12:06 -0700, Patrick in VT wrote: On Jul 6, 1:10 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Are Hetres really the cat's meow? the hetre offers an exceptional blend of speed, comfort, versatility and durability. cat's meow? maybe - depends on personal preferences. fun and unique? absolutely. I love 'em. Wouldn't liken them to a cat's meow, though; more like this: http://www.erbzine.com/mag19/Yell_Original.mp3 They are simply amazing and marvelous. I mentioned the other day our latest dirt road ride (where 650B outnumbered everyone else); I didn't mention that the Hetres were so much more stable and comfortable on gravel roads that I found myself comfortably and confidently going down hills at least 5-10 mph faster than I'd dared to in the past. lately, i'm most impressed with their durability. full brevet series on them this year (and numerous training rides, including lots of dirt) - no flats and they are wearing incredibly well. for whatever reason, however, I'm enjoying a much longer life out the black ones than I did with the red ones. I've got the red ones. So far, so good. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B
Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would be a 40mm Pasela. Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came from. I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Kathryn Eugene, OR On Jul 4, 11:23 am, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't see any discussion on the archives about these tires. Anyone ridden them? Or the fatty 650Bs from Schwalbe that Riv sells? I'm anxious to try a fat tire, and would like the Hetre were it not for the $62 price tag. I realize these Schwalbes may not compare, but I'd like some input on how they ride. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B
On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 11:25 -0700, clevewheel wrote: Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would be a 40mm Pasela. Amen, sister! The Hetre is amazing, and there's nothing else out there even close. What a gem of a tire! Well worth the price, in my book. (Of course, I'm not considering it for urban commuting service. For that, I find the CdlV is excellent, and a great bargain.) Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came from. I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Not all commutes are through a no-mans' land of shrapnel and glass fragments, and I've found the CdlV to be quite adequately flat-resistant and long-wearing. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B
I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Schwalbe are justifiably popular with distance tourers, mountain bikers, and among specialty bike - folders, recumbents, adult trikes - owners. Schwalbe 650b offering is relatively recent. It will be interesting to see whether it starts offering some of its mainstay tires as 650b. Of course those would cost a lot more than the one Riv is selling now. On Jul 5, 1:25 pm, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would be a 40mm Pasela. Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came from. I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Kathryn Eugene, OR On Jul 4, 11:23 am, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't see any discussion on the archives about these tires. Anyone ridden them? Or the fatty 650Bs from Schwalbe that Riv sells? I'm anxious to try a fat tire, and would like the Hetre were it not for the $62 price tag. I realize these Schwalbes may not compare, but I'd like some input on how they ride. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B
Actually just noticed Schwalbe is now selling a basic Marathin 650b. No Supreme, Big Apple, Fat frank or Ultremo yet though. On Jul 5, 8:00 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Schwalbe are justifiably popular with distance tourers, mountain bikers, and among specialty bike - folders, recumbents, adult trikes - owners. Schwalbe 650b offering is relatively recent. It will be interesting to see whether it starts offering some of its mainstay tires as 650b. Of course those would cost a lot more than the one Riv is selling now. On Jul 5, 1:25 pm, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would be a 40mm Pasela. Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came from. I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Kathryn Eugene, OR On Jul 4, 11:23 am, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't see any discussion on the archives about these tires. Anyone ridden them? Or the fatty 650Bs from Schwalbe that Riv sells? I'm anxious to try a fat tire, and would like the Hetre were it not for the $62 price tag. I realize these Schwalbes may not compare, but I'd like some input on how they ride. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B
I've been trying to hold out for a Marathon Supreme in 650b. Given the market for $50+ (I have trouble paying auto tire prices for bicycle tires, personally) 650b tires, I think Schwalbe missed the boat manufacturing the ho-hum Middy that competes in price with the 105/Ultegra standard Col de la Vie. Street prices of the CdV are tough to beat for performance; I have trouble justifying automobile tire prices on a bicycle -- wasn't there at least one contributor on an ancillary list who traded in some of those very colorful and expensive tires, returning to CdVs, sensing no discernable difference? Tempted to trade up from CdVs to a more durable tire, (superstitions aside) we've had phenomenal flat free performance these last six months with ours (two Bleriots); that's about 2500 mi. Then again, I'm eyeing the street price of Fatty Rumpkins ... Cheers, Chris Tucson, AZ On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Actually just noticed Schwalbe is now selling a basic Marathin 650b. No Supreme, Big Apple, Fat frank or Ultremo yet though. On Jul 5, 8:00 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Schwalbe are justifiably popular with distance tourers, mountain bikers, and among specialty bike - folders, recumbents, adult trikes - owners. Schwalbe 650b offering is relatively recent. It will be interesting to see whether it starts offering some of its mainstay tires as 650b. Of course those would cost a lot more than the one Riv is selling now. On Jul 5, 1:25 pm, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would be a 40mm Pasela. Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came from. I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Kathryn Eugene, OR On Jul 4, 11:23 am, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't see any discussion on the archives about these tires. Anyone ridden them? Or the fatty 650Bs from Schwalbe that Riv sells? I'm anxious to try a fat tire, and would like the Hetre were it not for the $62 price tag. I realize these Schwalbes may not compare, but I'd like some input on how they ride. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B
I got about 3 months on the Schwalbe Marathons (650b) and I like them a lot. I converted from CDlv's and to be honest I really can tell much difference. My biggest gripe with the CDLVs was that they were a major pain to mount and some of them appeared to have a built-in wobble. The Marathons mount easily, ride comfortably, and (best of all) no flats yet. On Jul 5, 6:32 pm, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to hold out for a Marathon Supreme in 650b. Given the market for $50+ (I have trouble paying auto tire prices for bicycle tires, personally) 650b tires, I think Schwalbe missed the boat manufacturing the ho-hum Middy that competes in price with the 105/Ultegra standard Col de la Vie. Street prices of the CdV are tough to beat for performance; I have trouble justifying automobile tire prices on a bicycle -- wasn't there at least one contributor on an ancillary list who traded in some of those very colorful and expensive tires, returning to CdVs, sensing no discernable difference? Tempted to trade up from CdVs to a more durable tire, (superstitions aside) we've had phenomenal flat free performance these last six months with ours (two Bleriots); that's about 2500 mi. Then again, I'm eyeing the street price of Fatty Rumpkins ... Cheers, Chris Tucson, AZ On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Actually just noticed Schwalbe is now selling a basic Marathin 650b. No Supreme, Big Apple, Fat frank or Ultremo yet though. On Jul 5, 8:00 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Schwalbe are justifiably popular with distance tourers, mountain bikers, and among specialty bike - folders, recumbents, adult trikes - owners. Schwalbe 650b offering is relatively recent. It will be interesting to see whether it starts offering some of its mainstay tires as 650b. Of course those would cost a lot more than the one Riv is selling now. On Jul 5, 1:25 pm, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would be a 40mm Pasela. Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came from. I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Kathryn Eugene, OR On Jul 4, 11:23 am, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't see any discussion on the archives about these tires. Anyone ridden them? Or the fatty 650Bs from Schwalbe that Riv sells? I'm anxious to try a fat tire, and would like the Hetre were it not for the $62 price tag. I realize these Schwalbes may not compare, but I'd like some input on how they ride. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
