[RBW] Re: Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other fatties

2015-10-10 Thread mike gasparino
That's what I wanted to hear! Woohoo

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other fatties

2015-10-09 Thread Mark Reimer
Agreed re: Thunder Burts. Amazing ride quality. Not the most durable for 
loaded gravel riding, but that's the trade off with light and supple. They 
fly on pavement. I'd love to try them tubeless for an even lighter setup 
one day. My 2.25 TB's on my Atlantis are substantially quicker than the 
2.1" WTB Nano's I had before. 

On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 1:28:12 PM UTC-5, Father of Sam wrote:
>
> I'm with Tim on the Schwalbe Super Moto.  I ran the 60-622 BAs for awhile, 
> then 50-622 Supremes to fit the fenders I have.  When the fenders came off 
> and I went back to the BAs, they felt so 'clod-hoppy' that I splurged on 
> the the 60-622 Super Moto (not 'X').  They feel so supple, sprightly, and 
> fast compared to the BAs, that I've now vowed to strictly go Evolution line 
> when wearing Schwalbe.  Unfortunately, Schwalbe seems to have discontinued 
> the Super Moto, to be replaced by the 'One'.  We'll see how it compares...
>
> -Peter
> Oakland, CA
>
> On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 11:44:07 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Chris, the TB's are as close as I've found to 2.1" 700c Compass tires. I 
>> hear slightly more road noise compared with the QB's Barlow Pass on the 
>> same roads. They are surprisingly smooth -- much smoother and more supple 
>> than the Smart Sams. I second all of David's description of them as well. I 
>> have not once thought "this ride will have a lot of pavement, so though I'd 
>> rather have gears today I'm going to take the QB -- which I did think with 
>> the Smart Sams.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick 
>>
>> On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:12:31 PM UTC-6, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>>>
>>> I've recently become interested in the Thunder Burts.  How do they do on 
>>> the pavement, compared to other tires you ridden?  
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other fatties

2015-10-09 Thread Father of Sam
I'm with Tim on the Schwalbe Super Moto.  I ran the 60-622 BAs for awhile, 
then 50-622 Supremes to fit the fenders I have.  When the fenders came off 
and I went back to the BAs, they felt so 'clod-hoppy' that I splurged on 
the the 60-622 Super Moto (not 'X').  They feel so supple, sprightly, and 
fast compared to the BAs, that I've now vowed to strictly go Evolution line 
when wearing Schwalbe.  Unfortunately, Schwalbe seems to have discontinued 
the Super Moto, to be replaced by the 'One'.  We'll see how it compares...

-Peter
Oakland, CA

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 11:44:07 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Chris, the TB's are as close as I've found to 2.1" 700c Compass tires. I 
> hear slightly more road noise compared with the QB's Barlow Pass on the 
> same roads. They are surprisingly smooth -- much smoother and more supple 
> than the Smart Sams. I second all of David's description of them as well. I 
> have not once thought "this ride will have a lot of pavement, so though I'd 
> rather have gears today I'm going to take the QB -- which I did think with 
> the Smart Sams.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick 
>
> On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:12:31 PM UTC-6, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>>
>> I've recently become interested in the Thunder Burts.  How do they do on 
>> the pavement, compared to other tires you ridden?  
>>
>

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RE: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other fatties

2015-10-09 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I had Thunder Burts on my Bombadil for the C group ride led by Pondero this 
week.  They were GREAT on the towpath, and GREAT on the road on a couple of 
5-10 mile off-Towpath sojourns.  But I did flat once on the Towpath (the front, 
thankfully – the Rohloff rear isn't fun to change a tire on), so certainly not 
what you'd call bomb-proof.

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To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other 
fatties

Agreed re: Thunder Burts. Amazing ride quality. Not the most durable for loaded 
gravel riding, but that's the trade off with light and supple. They fly on 
pavement. I'd love to try them tubeless for an even lighter setup one day. My 
2.25 TB's on my Atlantis are substantially quicker than the 2.1" WTB Nano's I 
had before.

On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 1:28:12 PM UTC-5, Father of Sam wrote:
I'm with Tim on the Schwalbe Super Moto.  I ran the 60-622 BAs for awhile, then 
50-622 Supremes to fit the fenders I have.  When the fenders came off and I 
went back to the BAs, they felt so 'clod-hoppy' that I splurged on the the 
60-622 Super Moto (not 'X').  They feel so supple, sprightly, and fast compared 
to the BAs, that I've now vowed to strictly go Evolution line when wearing 
Schwalbe.  Unfortunately, Schwalbe seems to have discontinued the Super Moto, 
to be replaced by the 'One'.  We'll see how it compares...

-Peter
Oakland, CA

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 11:44:07 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Chris, the TB's are as close as I've found to 2.1" 700c Compass tires. I hear 
slightly more road noise compared with the QB's Barlow Pass on the same roads. 
They are surprisingly smooth -- much smoother and more supple than the Smart 
Sams. I second all of David's description of them as well. I have not once 
thought "this ride will have a lot of pavement, so though I'd rather have gears 
today I'm going to take the QB -- which I did think with the Smart Sams.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:12:31 PM UTC-6, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
I've recently become interested in the Thunder Burts.  How do they do on the 
pavement, compared to other tires you ridden?
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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other fatties

2015-10-08 Thread Montclair BobbyB
According to Peter White, "... if you have a bike like the Rivendell 
Atlantis and you won't be using fenders, you can just fit the 60mm Big 
Apples (with maybe 3mm clearance) and have the most comfortable ride 
possible."

Once upon a time I rode 700c x 60mm on my Bombadil... I'm a fat-tire lover, 
and typically go for the fattest tires I can fit.  But even I thought the 
60s began to feel a bit ponderous on longer road rides.  For shorter 
distance, especially on mixed terrain and local knocking around these were 
the absolute BOMB!!.  I eventually settled in on 50mm BAs and felt this was 
the better all-round choice... but admittedly I did miss the mega-cush and 
comfort of the Big-Daddy Big Apples...

I'm considering a pair of "Big-Mama" BAs for my Clementine 59cm... I don't 
care about weight... Clementine will clearly make her presence known along 
the Delaware River Trail from Frenchtown to Washington Crossing (and 
beyond).  

I say go BIG!!

BB

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 9:50:41 PM UTC-4, mike gasparino wrote:
>
> Anyone tried this set up? Do they fit? Trying to go fat as I can. 
> Considering the 55cm big bens as well. I'm not looking for anything too 
> gnarly as far as tread due to only riding gravel and pavement. Any 
> recommendations are much appreciated! 
> Michael 

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other fatties

2015-10-08 Thread Deacon Patrick
One thing I've learned is I much prefer soft, supple tires to stiff, flat 
protection tires. And I haven't had more flats (your milage will obviously 
vary). The ride is soo smoth. Plush. Delicious. Thunder Burts 
are up there on supple scale and give an amazing ride.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 7:50:41 PM UTC-6, mike gasparino wrote:
>
> Anyone tried this set up? Do they fit? Trying to go fat as I can. 
> Considering the 55cm big bens as well. I'm not looking for anything too 
> gnarly as far as tread due to only riding gravel and pavement. Any 
> recommendations are much appreciated! 
> Michael 

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other fatties

2015-10-08 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I've recently become interested in the Thunder Burts.  How do they do on 
the pavement, compared to other tires you ridden?  I've got a Surly Karate 
Monkey so now I can go as fat as I care to!  I'm running 40mm Duremes right 
now but want to jump to 50-60mm tires but I want a true 50+mm tire that is 
relatively lightweight but with decent puncture protection.   Big 
Apples/Bens are too heavy. 



On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:06:50 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> One thing I've learned is I much prefer soft, supple tires to stiff, flat 
> protection tires. And I haven't had more flats (your milage will obviously 
> vary). The ride is soo smoth. Plush. Delicious. Thunder Burts 
> are up there on supple scale and give an amazing ride.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 7:50:41 PM UTC-6, mike gasparino wrote:
>>
>> Anyone tried this set up? Do they fit? Trying to go fat as I can. 
>> Considering the 55cm big bens as well. I'm not looking for anything too 
>> gnarly as far as tread due to only riding gravel and pavement. Any 
>> recommendations are much appreciated! 
>> Michael 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other fatties

2015-10-08 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
They're light, flexible, offer decent cornering grip in the dirt, and ride 
well on asphalt. They best thing I can say is that I don't notice they're 
there on pavement. Can't say that about many 2" knobbies!


On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 11:12:31 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> I've recently become interested in the Thunder Burts.  How do they do on 
> the pavement, compared to other tires you ridden?  I've got a Surly Karate 
> Monkey so now I can go as fat as I care to!  I'm running 40mm Duremes right 
> now but want to jump to 50-60mm tires but I want a true 50+mm tire that is 
> relatively lightweight but with decent puncture protection.   Big 
> Apples/Bens are too heavy. 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:06:50 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> One thing I've learned is I much prefer soft, supple tires to stiff, flat 
>> protection tires. And I haven't had more flats (your milage will obviously 
>> vary). The ride is soo smoth. Plush. Delicious. Thunder Burts 
>> are up there on supple scale and give an amazing ride.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 7:50:41 PM UTC-6, mike gasparino wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone tried this set up? Do they fit? Trying to go fat as I can. 
>>> Considering the 55cm big bens as well. I'm not looking for anything too 
>>> gnarly as far as tread due to only riding gravel and pavement. Any 
>>> recommendations are much appreciated! 
>>> Michael 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other fatties

2015-10-08 Thread Deacon Patrick
Chris, the TB's are as close as I've found to 2.1" 700c Compass tires. I 
hear slightly more road noise compared with the QB's Barlow Pass on the 
same roads. They are surprisingly smooth -- much smoother and more supple 
than the Smart Sams. I second all of David's description of them as well. I 
have not once thought "this ride will have a lot of pavement, so though I'd 
rather have gears today I'm going to take the QB -- which I did think with 
the Smart Sams.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:12:31 PM UTC-6, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> I've recently become interested in the Thunder Burts.  How do they do on 
> the pavement, compared to other tires you ridden?  
>

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