[RBW] Re: Securing big Sackville to rack

[Marc Irwin]

I clamp mine down in the mousetrap of my Pletscher Rack.  It's secure 
enough that the saddle loops seem optional.

Marc

On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 3:51:29 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I just got a used Big One that happily will work with both my Dahon and my 
> Matthews. On the Dahon it just hangs down from VO loops bolted to the 
> Flite's rails, and I cut slots for a seatpost strap; the straps, loops, and 
> dowel support the weight, and I've carried 30+ lb this way with other 
> saddlebags with no ill effects. I know that this method of attachment 
> doesn't make use of the bag's nice flat and shallow profile, but it's fine 
> for very short trips to the grocery store, which is what the Dahon is used 
> for when it is not folded and in the back of the car.)
>
> But for the Matthews, the bag will be strapped to similar saddle rail 
> loops and sit squarely on the rack. The rack has no "tombstone", but I 
> wonder if I need anything to secure it laterally. There is little sway when 
> the bag is strapped to the Dahon. 
>
> What is all y'all's experience? I see the slots on the bottom leather; do 
> you use them? One or both?
>
> And will toe straps work?
>
> Back to the Dahone: one day I may get a clamp on rack for the seatpost, 
> but for now this seems to work well.
>
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>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the 
> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>
> *Le sacre est la projection du Centre celeste dans la peripherie cosmique, 
> ou du "Moteur immobile" dans le flux des choses. *F Schuon, *Le Sens du 
> Sacre, *Etudes Traditionnelles, 1r q 1979
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[RBW] Re: Securing big Sackville to rack

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, all. Since this will be a (somewhat) quick on and off  bag for both
bikes, I'll use the toe strap method for the Matthews' rack.

It's big! I had a Medium (should have kept it) and that carried huge loads,
but this is claimed to be 32.5 liters when full but not bursting at seams.
In comparison, a pair of backroller classics are rated at 40 liters. PDG!

As for wheelies on the Dahon: nope, I've carried 45 lb on it, on a basket
bolted to the rear rack.

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I just got a used Big One that happily will work with both my Dahon and my
> Matthews. On the Dahon it just hangs down from VO loops bolted to the
> Flite's rails, and I cut slots for a seatpost strap; the straps, loops, and
> dowel support the weight, and I've carried 30+ lb this way with other
> saddlebags with no ill effects. I know that this method of attachment
> doesn't make use of the bag's nice flat and shallow profile, but it's fine
> for very short trips to the grocery store, which is what the Dahon is used
> for when it is not folded and in the back of the car.)
>
> But for the Matthews, the bag will be strapped to similar saddle rail
> loops and sit squarely on the rack. The rack has no "tombstone", but I
> wonder if I need anything to secure it laterally. There is little sway when
> the bag is strapped to the Dahon.
>
> What is all y'all's experience? I see the slots on the bottom leather; do
> you use them? One or both?
>
> And will toe straps work?
>
> Back to the Dahone: one day I may get a clamp on rack for the seatpost,
> but for now this seems to work well.
>
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> **
> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>
> *Le sacre est la projection du Centre celeste dans la peripherie cosmique,
> ou du "Moteur immobile" dans le flux des choses. *F Schuon, *Le Sens du
> Sacre, *Etudes Traditionnelles, 1r q 1979
>
>
>


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circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and
individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu

*Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
world revolves.) *Carthusian motto

*It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart

*Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle

*Le sacre est la projection du Centre celeste dans la peripherie cosmique,
ou du "Moteur immobile" dans le flux des choses. *F Schuon, *Le Sens du
Sacre, *Etudes Traditionnelles, 1r q 1979

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[RBW] Re: Securing big Sackville to rack

[bo richardson]

i got the people at a signshop here to cut me a piece of black platic 
signboard. it forms a bottom floor
and doesnt promote flopping.

i also use zip ties and sometimes a bit of brake cable and some of those 
crushable two hole fittings to
secure the cable after running it around the rack and a leather slot.

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[RBW] Re: Securing big Sackville to rack

[Kellie]

I use 3 zip ties on each side of the bag to the rack, not only for 
stability but a little more difficult to remove for SECURITY!

On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 12:51:29 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I just got a used Big One that happily will work with both my Dahon and my 
> Matthews. On the Dahon it just hangs down from VO loops bolted to the 
> Flite's rails, and I cut slots for a seatpost strap; the straps, loops, and 
> dowel support the weight, and I've carried 30+ lb this way with other 
> saddlebags with no ill effects. I know that this method of attachment 
> doesn't make use of the bag's nice flat and shallow profile, but it's fine 
> for very short trips to the grocery store, which is what the Dahon is used 
> for when it is not folded and in the back of the car.)
>
> But for the Matthews, the bag will be strapped to similar saddle rail 
> loops and sit squarely on the rack. The rack has no "tombstone", but I 
> wonder if I need anything to secure it laterally. There is little sway when 
> the bag is strapped to the Dahon. 
>
> What is all y'all's experience? I see the slots on the bottom leather; do 
> you use them? One or both?
>
> And will toe straps work?
>
> Back to the Dahone: one day I may get a clamp on rack for the seatpost, 
> but for now this seems to work well.
>
> -- 
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> **
> **
> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the 
> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>
> *Le sacre est la projection du Centre celeste dans la peripherie cosmique, 
> ou du "Moteur immobile" dans le flux des choses. *F Schuon, *Le Sens du 
> Sacre, *Etudes Traditionnelles, 1r q 1979
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Securing big Sackville to rack

[scott]

I use an Irish strap on the rear slot. I use it with a tombstone nitto, an old 
Pletscher rack, and the Clem rack. Both are fine. I want to invent a system of 
strong magnets on the underside to secure it to the rack, but it won't work on 
aluminium...also, the slit on the bag is too small for the new Clem rack fold 
up tombstone. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Securing big Sackville to rack

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks. Then I am ready to go.

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Shoji Takahashi 
wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
> I attach my large saddlesack using a single toe-clip strap at the
> rear-most position.
>
> shoji
> arlington ma
>
>
> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 3:51:29 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I just got a used Big One that happily will work with both my Dahon and
>> my Matthews. On the Dahon it just hangs down from VO loops bolted to the
>> Flite's rails, and I cut slots for a seatpost strap; the straps, loops, and
>> dowel support the weight, and I've carried 30+ lb this way with other
>> saddlebags with no ill effects. I know that this method of attachment
>> doesn't make use of the bag's nice flat and shallow profile, but it's fine
>> for very short trips to the grocery store, which is what the Dahon is used
>> for when it is not folded and in the back of the car.)
>>
>> But for the Matthews, the bag will be strapped to similar saddle rail
>> loops and sit squarely on the rack. The rack has no "tombstone", but I
>> wonder if I need anything to secure it laterally. There is little sway when
>> the bag is strapped to the Dahon.
>>
>> What is all y'all's experience? I see the slots on the bottom leather; do
>> you use them? One or both?
>>
>> And will toe straps work?
>>
>> Back to the Dahone: one day I may get a clamp on rack for the seatpost,
>> but for now this seems to work well.
>>
>> --
>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
>> Other professional writing services.
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>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique,  Vereinigte Staaten
>> 
>> 
>> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
>> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and
>> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>>
>> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
>> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>>
>> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>>
>> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>>
>> *Le sacre est la projection du Centre celeste dans la peripherie
>> cosmique, ou du "Moteur immobile" dans le flux des choses. *F Schuon, *Le
>> Sens du Sacre, *Etudes Traditionnelles, 1r q 1979
>>
>>
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*The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and
individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu

*Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
world revolves.) *Carthusian motto

*It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart

*Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle

*Le sacre est la projection du Centre celeste dans la peripherie cosmique,
ou du "Moteur immobile" dans le flux des choses. *F Schuon, *Le Sens du
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[RBW] Re: Securing big Sackville to rack

[Shoji Takahashi]

Hi Patrick,
I attach my large saddlesack using a single toe-clip strap at the rear-most 
position.

shoji
arlington ma
 

On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 3:51:29 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I just got a used Big One that happily will work with both my Dahon and my 
> Matthews. On the Dahon it just hangs down from VO loops bolted to the 
> Flite's rails, and I cut slots for a seatpost strap; the straps, loops, and 
> dowel support the weight, and I've carried 30+ lb this way with other 
> saddlebags with no ill effects. I know that this method of attachment 
> doesn't make use of the bag's nice flat and shallow profile, but it's fine 
> for very short trips to the grocery store, which is what the Dahon is used 
> for when it is not folded and in the back of the car.)
>
> But for the Matthews, the bag will be strapped to similar saddle rail 
> loops and sit squarely on the rack. The rack has no "tombstone", but I 
> wonder if I need anything to secure it laterally. There is little sway when 
> the bag is strapped to the Dahon. 
>
> What is all y'all's experience? I see the slots on the bottom leather; do 
> you use them? One or both?
>
> And will toe straps work?
>
> Back to the Dahone: one day I may get a clamp on rack for the seatpost, 
> but for now this seems to work well.
>
> -- 
> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
> Other professional writing services.
> http://www.resumespecialties.com/
> www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique,  Vereinigte Staaten
> **
> **
> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the 
> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>
> *Le sacre est la projection du Centre celeste dans la peripherie cosmique, 
> ou du "Moteur immobile" dans le flux des choses. *F Schuon, *Le Sens du 
> Sacre, *Etudes Traditionnelles, 1r q 1979
>
>
>

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