[RBW] Re: Shimano discontinuing rim-brake hubs?

2021-05-24 Thread Andy Beichler
It depends on the build. If I was building a practical bike, it would not 
matter to me. If I was building up a beautiful to look at and ride bike, it 
would matter to me.  Unused disc mounts are not pretty.  

On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 1:35:44 PM UTC-4 Christopher Cote wrote:

> There is no practical reason at all that you couldn't run a disc-brake hub 
> with a rim-brake rim. Maybe you can make a valid objection for aesthetic 
> reasons, but it's hardly a reason for concern, IMHO. 
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 11:01:36 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Per Grant's blog:
>>
>> *Shimano is going to stop making  middle-to-upper end non-disc brake hubs 
>> soon, road and mountain. *
>>
>> Thank God there is always Phil Wood. And no doubt vast quantities of old 
>> Shimano rim-brake hubs buried in garages worldwide.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Shimano discontinuing rim-brake hubs?

2021-05-24 Thread reca...@gmail.com
Obviously you can run disc hubs with rim brake rims, but hub spacing would 
play a role depending on your rear hub spacing if running a disc hub. I 
wouldn't spread say a 130mm rear triangle to fit a 142mm hub. Hopefully, 
Shimano will provide interchangeable endcaps but I don't foresee a future 
where good rim brake hubs are not around. 

On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 1:35:44 PM UTC-4 Christopher Cote wrote:

> There is no practical reason at all that you couldn't run a disc-brake hub 
> with a rim-brake rim. Maybe you can make a valid objection for aesthetic 
> reasons, but it's hardly a reason for concern, IMHO. 
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 11:01:36 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Per Grant's blog:
>>
>> *Shimano is going to stop making  middle-to-upper end non-disc brake hubs 
>> soon, road and mountain. *
>>
>> Thank God there is always Phil Wood. And no doubt vast quantities of old 
>> Shimano rim-brake hubs buried in garages worldwide.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Shimano discontinuing rim-brake hubs?

2021-05-23 Thread Brewster Fong
LOL, this sounds so much like carbon forks. The fear of death and 
destruction. On the other hand, if you listen to my buddies, you shouldn't 
be on disc brakes if you don't have the proper hydro disc brakes and thru 
axle.  They probably look down at you at mechanical disc brakes and qr 
axles. LOL

I'm still a rim brake hold out and have actually gotten some good deals as 
people want to "upgrade!"  






On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 1:27:22 PM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:

> Chris - while there are other rim brake manufacturers (Paul, Tektro, etc.) 
> who are still making rim brakes, I think one of the concerns - and it has 
> been batted back and forth on this blog as well as by Grant on his own Blug 
> - is that if rim brakes disappear entirely (which I doubt) and cyclists are 
> forced to use disc brakes, they won't be able to do so without a front fork 
> change.  AND, as Grant has pointed out, not all forks are built 
> substantially enough to work safely with disc brakes.  One of the issues 
> discussed had to do with which side of the bike's fork the disc caliper is 
> located.
>
> Just this past week a cyclist in my area had a front wheel "fall off" 
> while riding on a path and he sustained serious head, face, and other 
> injuries.  I'm waiting to find out the details, but I wouldn't be surprised 
> if the bike had a left-side disc brake mount and he hadn't tightened the QR 
> sufficiently, and it worked its way loose during hard braking. 
>
>
> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 12:35:44 PM UTC-5 Christopher Cote wrote:
>
>> There is no practical reason at all that you couldn't run a disc-brake 
>> hub with a rim-brake rim. Maybe you can make a valid objection for 
>> aesthetic reasons, but it's hardly a reason for concern, IMHO. 
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 11:01:36 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Per Grant's blog:
>>>
>>> *Shimano is going to stop making  middle-to-upper end non-disc brake 
>>> hubs soon, road and mountain. *
>>>
>>> Thank God there is always Phil Wood. And no doubt vast quantities of old 
>>> Shimano rim-brake hubs buried in garages worldwide.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Shimano discontinuing rim-brake hubs?

2021-05-21 Thread George Schick
Chris - while there are other rim brake manufacturers (Paul, Tektro, etc.) 
who are still making rim brakes, I think one of the concerns - and it has 
been batted back and forth on this blog as well as by Grant on his own Blug 
- is that if rim brakes disappear entirely (which I doubt) and cyclists are 
forced to use disc brakes, they won't be able to do so without a front fork 
change.  AND, as Grant has pointed out, not all forks are built 
substantially enough to work safely with disc brakes.  One of the issues 
discussed had to do with which side of the bike's fork the disc caliper is 
located.

Just this past week a cyclist in my area had a front wheel "fall off" while 
riding on a path and he sustained serious head, face, and other injuries. 
 I'm waiting to find out the details, but I wouldn't be surprised if the 
bike had a left-side disc brake mount and he hadn't tightened the QR 
sufficiently, and it worked its way loose during hard braking. 


On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 12:35:44 PM UTC-5 Christopher Cote wrote:

> There is no practical reason at all that you couldn't run a disc-brake hub 
> with a rim-brake rim. Maybe you can make a valid objection for aesthetic 
> reasons, but it's hardly a reason for concern, IMHO. 
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 11:01:36 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Per Grant's blog:
>>
>> *Shimano is going to stop making  middle-to-upper end non-disc brake hubs 
>> soon, road and mountain. *
>>
>> Thank God there is always Phil Wood. And no doubt vast quantities of old 
>> Shimano rim-brake hubs buried in garages worldwide.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Shimano discontinuing rim-brake hubs?

2021-05-21 Thread Christopher Cote
There is no practical reason at all that you couldn't run a disc-brake hub 
with a rim-brake rim. Maybe you can make a valid objection for aesthetic 
reasons, but it's hardly a reason for concern, IMHO. 

Chris


On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 11:01:36 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Per Grant's blog:
>
> *Shimano is going to stop making  middle-to-upper end non-disc brake hubs 
> soon, road and mountain. *
>
> Thank God there is always Phil Wood. And no doubt vast quantities of old 
> Shimano rim-brake hubs buried in garages worldwide.
>
>
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>

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