[RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

2011-09-02 Thread charlie
The tires say HS 308 on them 700x45c 47-622 28x1.75 The little
nubblies are still on the sidewalls by the generator groove but not on
the tread that hits the road but there is a slight remnant of the tire
mold line on the center of the tread more on what was the front tire
less on the back. Reflective strip  Big 'Schwalbe Marathon' in white
on the sidewall. Actually I have a third tire with the same markings
except it has a little red 'Kevlar MB Belted' area on one sidewall and
'Schwalbe Marathon' in smaller letters. This tire has only been
mounted, never ridden and is virtually new. I'd throw it in but it
inflates to around 38mm instead of 41mm so not sure what the deal
isI'd like to find a match for it. These are a good set of tires I
just need to be able to afford some 700x35 Green Guards for my SO so I
can ride it to work over glass littered streets.

On Sep 1, 10:41 pm, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I had a set of the Schwalbe 700x47's (41mm actual) on my A719
 rims.I rode them a short while then purchased some Supremes but I
 live in the rainy Northwest (Washington State). I'd sell them but I'm
 not sure how to ship them. They are gnarly and heavy but they ride
 fine. I had total confidence riding over rocky gravel roads with them.
 I want to get something a little narrower for my Simple One rims as
 they are pretty narrow so..make an offer they have very little
 wear. I think I paid Grant $35 a piece for them a while back. In fact,
 I'm heading out to the garage to check the actual wear on them but
 these tires are good for thousands of miles.

 On Aug 31, 5:26 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:







  There are 5 bicycles hanging in the garage. There is *one tire* with air in
  it.

  My last 3 trips on the Hilsen have seen no fewer than 2 punctures per trip.
  All caused by goat heads.

  I think I am going to finally bite the bullet and pick up a set of
  Marathons. I have seen evidence of a 700 x 47 (41 actual) Marathon
  (Supreme??) on a Hilsen that would be stellar. I like the big meat on the
  hoops off road. Unfortunately the widest I see searching the web is 40
  nowbummer.

  There seems to be some pretty lofty praise on the Marathons being as anti
  flat as is available. From what I gather, the Supreme is the, well,
  supreme?

  Anyone gone the Foss route yet?

  The previous players:

  Sealants:
  True Goo - worked for a month, then stopped.
  Slime - slowed the leak a little then created a huge mess in the tire.
  Caffe Latex - worked for @ 2 months, then clogged the valve.

  Tires:
  700x37 Pasela TG.
  700x42 IRC Slick XC.
  700x32 Conti Twister Pro.
  700x35 Schwalbe Delta Cruisers with puncture protection.

  These tires excelled in different areas, but on the roads/path I take most
  often they all suffered the dreaded goat head rapture (rupture?) about
  equally.

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Re: [RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

2011-09-02 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I've ridden Big Apples through a patch and flicked off scores without
any penetration -- tho' this was on soft dirt, not hard pavement.
They'll get through BAs on hard surfaces.

I did have one set of tires and tubes that could handle goatheads --
again, I rode through a patch on pavement and came back with literally
scores in both tires, which I flicked off -- but the combination of
belt and thornproof tubes rode so woodenly that I'd rather fix flats.

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:07 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 My kid rode across a real bad patch last week and now i pretty much have to
 buy new tubes there are so many holes.  Possibly new tires but I hope to get
 all the nubs out.  It'll take a good couple hours though...

 D'oh!

 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote:

 Those goat heads are a mean plant.  I think Marathon Pluses with about
 4 or 5 Mr Tuffies inside and the rest filled with cement would give a
 person a fighting chance.  Even then it might be iffy.

 -Ray

 On Aug 31, 5:26 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:
  There are 5 bicycles hanging in the garage. There is *one tire* with air
  in
  it.
 
  My last 3 trips on the Hilsen have seen no fewer than 2 punctures per
  trip.
  All caused by goat heads.
 
  I think I am going to finally bite the bullet and pick up a set of
  Marathons. I have seen evidence of a 700 x 47 (41 actual) Marathon
  (Supreme??) on a Hilsen that would be stellar. I like the big meat on
  the
  hoops off road. Unfortunately the widest I see searching the web is 40
  nowbummer.
 
  There seems to be some pretty lofty praise on the Marathons being as
  anti
  flat as is available. From what I gather, the Supreme is the, well,
  supreme?
 
  Anyone gone the Foss route yet?
 
  The previous players:
 
  Sealants:
  True Goo - worked for a month, then stopped.
  Slime - slowed the leak a little then created a huge mess in the tire.
  Caffe Latex - worked for @ 2 months, then clogged the valve.
 
  Tires:
  700x37 Pasela TG.
  700x42 IRC Slick XC.
  700x32 Conti Twister Pro.
  700x35 Schwalbe Delta Cruisers with puncture protection.
 
  These tires excelled in different areas, but on the roads/path I take
  most
  often they all suffered the dreaded goat head rapture (rupture?) about
  equally.

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Re: [RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

2011-09-02 Thread jinxed
If Big Apples would squeeze in the HilsenI'd be running them!

You really did hit the thorn with tire regarding ride vs. hassle. I tried 
out several of the Specialized Armadillo, and Bontrager Hardcase tires and 
came to the same conclusion. Yea they hold air, but wow do they ride poorly. 
The Bontys were better, but still bad. I came to the same conclusion and 
just stocked up on tubes and patch kits.

From what I have been reading though, it appears that the Marathon Supreme 
does a good job with flat protection AND ride half way decent.

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[RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

2011-09-01 Thread John Bennett
Flats? What's that? Last flat: 3+ years ago. Marathons are great.
(This is not a sales pitch.)

JAB

On Aug 31, 5:26 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 There are 5 bicycles hanging in the garage. There is *one tire* with air in
 it.

 My last 3 trips on the Hilsen have seen no fewer than 2 punctures per trip.
 All caused by goat heads.

 I think I am going to finally bite the bullet and pick up a set of
 Marathons. I have seen evidence of a 700 x 47 (41 actual) Marathon
 (Supreme??) on a Hilsen that would be stellar. I like the big meat on the
 hoops off road. Unfortunately the widest I see searching the web is 40
 nowbummer.

 There seems to be some pretty lofty praise on the Marathons being as anti
 flat as is available. From what I gather, the Supreme is the, well,
 supreme?

 Anyone gone the Foss route yet?

 The previous players:

 Sealants:
 True Goo - worked for a month, then stopped.
 Slime - slowed the leak a little then created a huge mess in the tire.
 Caffe Latex - worked for @ 2 months, then clogged the valve.

 Tires:
 700x37 Pasela TG.
 700x42 IRC Slick XC.
 700x32 Conti Twister Pro.
 700x35 Schwalbe Delta Cruisers with puncture protection.

 These tires excelled in different areas, but on the roads/path I take most
 often they all suffered the dreaded goat head rapture (rupture?) about
 equally.

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[RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

2011-09-01 Thread Mike
The 47s do exist. I got them through RBW. Perhaps the greenguard will
give you better protection against goatheads. I say try them out.

--mike

On Aug 31, 7:58 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Mike -

 HA! Your bike is the one I saw!! So the 47's do exist and fit the Hilsen!
 Nice.

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[RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

2011-09-01 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
I'm growing ever more appreciative of the (apparently swept, manicured, 
delicately textured, hallowed) paths I ride.
 
Since I started riding 3 years ago, I've had 4 flats, I think. One was a 
spoke poking through the rim tape on the most shoddily assembled wheel I've 
ever seen with an obviously cut-rate rim. Two were due to mounting errors 
(mea culpa) as I learned how to (not) use tire levers. The final one was a 
Pasela's tumorous-subsequently-exploding gumwall, about 9 months ago. That 
was my last Pasela; I'd already had three that developed 
bulgy-bubble gumwalls in a few hundred miles that I caught before they 
exploded. Shame, because those Paselas were the only tire I've ever used 
that rode noticeably better than any other tire I've used. I think it was 
the relative roundness?
 
Now I use $15 Kendas which ride just like the other non-Paselas I've ever 
used and which I can mount/unmount without tools. Good-to-very-good. Not 
great. They last maybe only 2,000 miles before the gumwalls start fraying. 
But hey they cost only $15 delivered!
 
My next bike will be shod with Vittoria Randonneur Hypers, about which I've 
heard good and bad. We'll see.
 
But I haven't had a traditional, standard, run-of-the-mill, apparently 
everyday, I-ran-over-something-which-poked-a-hole-in-my-tube flat. That's 
over 10,000 miles.
 
And, yes... I now expect to have two on the way home tonight. Probably 
goatheads flown in from California.
 
Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
who recently read his son's latest favorite novel, The Lost Hero, which has 
scenes in/around Walnut Creek, CA

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[RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

2011-09-01 Thread Michael Hechmer
Condolences. Personally I mostly get flats on dark rainy nights, but my only 
experience with goatheads has been while camping in NM  AZ.  I did not like 
them.  Vt roads are bad enough without them.

As a commuter I found that Tire Tuffy and a beefy rear wheel (Avocet Cross 
II at 38 MM were the best) worked better than any fluid sealant.  

Have you considered a trainer and Netflix?

michael,
take care of Self; it's one of a kind and irreplaceable.

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[RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

2011-09-01 Thread Way Rebb
Those goat heads are a mean plant.  I think Marathon Pluses with about
4 or 5 Mr Tuffies inside and the rest filled with cement would give a
person a fighting chance.  Even then it might be iffy.

-Ray

On Aug 31, 5:26 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 There are 5 bicycles hanging in the garage. There is *one tire* with air in
 it.

 My last 3 trips on the Hilsen have seen no fewer than 2 punctures per trip.
 All caused by goat heads.

 I think I am going to finally bite the bullet and pick up a set of
 Marathons. I have seen evidence of a 700 x 47 (41 actual) Marathon
 (Supreme??) on a Hilsen that would be stellar. I like the big meat on the
 hoops off road. Unfortunately the widest I see searching the web is 40
 nowbummer.

 There seems to be some pretty lofty praise on the Marathons being as anti
 flat as is available. From what I gather, the Supreme is the, well,
 supreme?

 Anyone gone the Foss route yet?

 The previous players:

 Sealants:
 True Goo - worked for a month, then stopped.
 Slime - slowed the leak a little then created a huge mess in the tire.
 Caffe Latex - worked for @ 2 months, then clogged the valve.

 Tires:
 700x37 Pasela TG.
 700x42 IRC Slick XC.
 700x32 Conti Twister Pro.
 700x35 Schwalbe Delta Cruisers with puncture protection.

 These tires excelled in different areas, but on the roads/path I take most
 often they all suffered the dreaded goat head rapture (rupture?) about
 equally.

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Re: [RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

2011-09-01 Thread cyclotourist
My kid rode across a real bad patch last week and now i pretty much have to
buy new tubes there are so many holes.  Possibly new tires but I hope to get
all the nubs out.  It'll take a good couple hours though...

D'oh!

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote:

 Those goat heads are a mean plant.  I think Marathon Pluses with about
 4 or 5 Mr Tuffies inside and the rest filled with cement would give a
 person a fighting chance.  Even then it might be iffy.

 -Ray

 On Aug 31, 5:26 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:
  There are 5 bicycles hanging in the garage. There is *one tire* with air
 in
  it.
 
  My last 3 trips on the Hilsen have seen no fewer than 2 punctures per
 trip.
  All caused by goat heads.
 
  I think I am going to finally bite the bullet and pick up a set of
  Marathons. I have seen evidence of a 700 x 47 (41 actual) Marathon
  (Supreme??) on a Hilsen that would be stellar. I like the big meat on the
  hoops off road. Unfortunately the widest I see searching the web is 40
  nowbummer.
 
  There seems to be some pretty lofty praise on the Marathons being as anti
  flat as is available. From what I gather, the Supreme is the, well,
  supreme?
 
  Anyone gone the Foss route yet?
 
  The previous players:
 
  Sealants:
  True Goo - worked for a month, then stopped.
  Slime - slowed the leak a little then created a huge mess in the tire.
  Caffe Latex - worked for @ 2 months, then clogged the valve.
 
  Tires:
  700x37 Pasela TG.
  700x42 IRC Slick XC.
  700x32 Conti Twister Pro.
  700x35 Schwalbe Delta Cruisers with puncture protection.
 
  These tires excelled in different areas, but on the roads/path I take
 most
  often they all suffered the dreaded goat head rapture (rupture?) about
  equally.

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[RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

2011-09-01 Thread charlie
I had a set of the Schwalbe 700x47's (41mm actual) on my A719
rims.I rode them a short while then purchased some Supremes but I
live in the rainy Northwest (Washington State). I'd sell them but I'm
not sure how to ship them. They are gnarly and heavy but they ride
fine. I had total confidence riding over rocky gravel roads with them.
I want to get something a little narrower for my Simple One rims as
they are pretty narrow so..make an offer they have very little
wear. I think I paid Grant $35 a piece for them a while back. In fact,
I'm heading out to the garage to check the actual wear on them but
these tires are good for thousands of miles.

On Aug 31, 5:26 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 There are 5 bicycles hanging in the garage. There is *one tire* with air in
 it.

 My last 3 trips on the Hilsen have seen no fewer than 2 punctures per trip.
 All caused by goat heads.

 I think I am going to finally bite the bullet and pick up a set of
 Marathons. I have seen evidence of a 700 x 47 (41 actual) Marathon
 (Supreme??) on a Hilsen that would be stellar. I like the big meat on the
 hoops off road. Unfortunately the widest I see searching the web is 40
 nowbummer.

 There seems to be some pretty lofty praise on the Marathons being as anti
 flat as is available. From what I gather, the Supreme is the, well,
 supreme?

 Anyone gone the Foss route yet?

 The previous players:

 Sealants:
 True Goo - worked for a month, then stopped.
 Slime - slowed the leak a little then created a huge mess in the tire.
 Caffe Latex - worked for @ 2 months, then clogged the valve.

 Tires:
 700x37 Pasela TG.
 700x42 IRC Slick XC.
 700x32 Conti Twister Pro.
 700x35 Schwalbe Delta Cruisers with puncture protection.

 These tires excelled in different areas, but on the roads/path I take most
 often they all suffered the dreaded goat head rapture (rupture?) about
 equally.

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[RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

2011-08-31 Thread Mike
On my tour earlier this month I got my first flat ever courtesy of a
goathead. This was right as I was entering Yakima. About 20 minutes
later I got another flat, a piece of glass. I was running Schwalbe
700x40 Marathons and these were the only flats I had. In fact these
were the only flats I've ever had on these tires.

Today, I put a set of 700x38 Marathons with Greenguard on my
commuter. They're on odd feeling tire. Fine for commuting but
definitely sluggish. I kinda wish Schwalbe had just stuck with their
standard Marathon design. Then again, they're pretty inexpensive given
their longevity.

I've run 700x47 Marathons on my Hilsen:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/3831147247/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/3770136217/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/3770135967/in/photostream/

Marathon Supremes are also an excellent tire. So far I've only tried
the 35s. At some point pony up the ducats for Duremes, most likely the
700x40s.

I should add, I have a problem with tires. It's amazing how a tire can
change a bike.

My bikes and the tires they're sporting:
Hilsen--Marathon Supremes 700x35
Quickbeam--Marathon 700x35
LHT--Marathon--700x40
CrossCheck--Marathon 700x38
Bryant--Jack Brown Greens

I also have a pretty worn set of Panaracer T-Serves and a set of
Marathon 700x47s. I may actually put the 47s on the Hilsen for
tomorrow scheduled mixed terrain ride through Forest Park.

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

2011-08-31 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Three flats in three weeks? I wish I got three flats in three weeks.
Had four on yesterday's brief ride (tho' 3 were due to an ancient,
slipping rim strip. The moral: use only Velox.

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 8:14 PM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote:
 I recently returned from a 3 week stint in eastern Wa. (Kennewick) helping
 to care for my elderly mom.
 I had 3 flats in 3 weeks, all from goatheads. The good news is that the
 volume of the JB greens allowed me to limp back to the house to address the
 flats there. I've found 'slime' tubes are useful in a goathead laden
 places.
 I'm curious about those Foss tubes too.
 Here in northern Cal. I don't get 3 flats in 3 months.
 -JimD
 On Aug 31, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Jeremy Till wrote:

 Had a ride last weekend where I had one flat on the rear from two
 goatheads.  Pulled over and replaced the tube, went to put the wheel back on
 the bike only to notice that my front tire was also going flat from 2
 goatheads!   I was kind of up a creek since i only had used my one extra
 tube and didn't have a patch kit on me.  I limped back to the nearest town,
 pausing every 2 miles or so to refill the front tire.  Luckily that town had
 a bike shop in it where I bought another tube and patch kitthe shop
 owner noted that it was goathead season.   All of this in 90+ degree heat.


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[RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

2011-08-31 Thread jinxed
Mike - 

HA! Your bike is the one I saw!! So the 47's do exist and fit the Hilsen! 
Nice.

Goatheads are a prolific problem here in Denver. There are two major trail 
systems that will get you darn near anywhere in and around the metro area 
you want to go. Since my daughter was born I have taken to using them more 
often as my ride where before I used them to get to my ride. Problem is 
both trail systems are bordered with the low level ground cover plant that 
creates the thorns. There is some speculation that they were 
used purposely along the Highline Canal Trail (built in the early 20s) as it 
was originally an access road for the irrigation canal. It would require no 
maintenance without getting overgrown. The recreation/bike trail was not to 
be until the 70s. 

Some years are better than others depending on heat and moisture. I can only 
guess that our summer of record heat has the little devils out in score.

Again...brilliant Hilsen there sir!

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Re: [RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

2011-08-31 Thread Jim Mather
My tubeless set-up on my mountain bikes has been immune to flats,
including goatheads, for 3 years now. I'm tempted by the road tubeless
but it looks like the widest you can get is a 25mm tire. Maybe I'll
experiment a bit, but I don't want to die from it.

jim m
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[RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

2011-08-31 Thread Mattt

I have Marathon Supremes and no flats in about 1000 miles.  This is 
commuting miles on the road to and from work.  They are great tires and 
barely have any wear in this time.  They are a little expensive up front, 
but worth the cost.

Matt

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