[RBW] Re: Sugino 40x26 wide low double?

[Philip Williamson]

He’s my neighbor, too! 
He’s helped me out with some bike repairs over the last few years, and 
designing a bike with him has been a lot of fun. He’s very thoughtful and 
patient, and likes the unique challenges of making an unusual bike.

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Sugino 40x26 wide low double?

[Pancake]

Fitz Cyclez, great! He's my friend's neighbor in Santa Rosa, lovely guy. 

On Tuesday, 12 February 2019 11:17:32 UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> I was just defining my wide-low double gear setup for my new Fitz 
> All-Road, and the gearing looks pretty similar. 
>
> 40/24 x 11-26 11 speed, with 55mm tires. 
>
> http://www.gear-calculator.com/?GR=DERS&KB=24,40&RZ=11,12,13,14,15,16,17,19,21,23,26&UF=2295&TF=90&SL=2.6&UN=KMH&DV=gearInches
>  
>  
> Dropping to a 22t small ring would mimic your low range of gears almost 
> exactly. I'm looking forward to riding this gearing. I think I'll have a 
> little more resolution in the 70s, and an extra 105" gear at the top end. 
>
> Philip 
> Santa Rosa, Ca
>
>
> On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 5:50:45 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> I've been running 42/25T x9  for years and love it.  Using a custom 
>> cassette, *here's my gear chart 
>> *
>>
>> Should be able to easily switch your combination into Mike's calculator.  
>>
>> If you try to bookmark yours, change the title and hit return, then hit 
>> save, recall, bookmark at every button you can find on the page - 
>>
>> - before you quit, copy the bookmark link at the bottom of the page and 
>> paste into a new window to make sure it kept your changes.  Then save your 
>> bookmark.  
>>
>> 
>>
>> Chain guard
>>
>>
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Sugino 40x26 wide low double?

[Ron Mc]

looks perfect Philip

On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 1:17:32 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> I was just defining my wide-low double gear setup for my new Fitz 
> All-Road, and the gearing looks pretty similar. 
>
> 40/24 x 11-26 11 speed, with 55mm tires. 
>
> http://www.gear-calculator.com/?GR=DERS&KB=24,40&RZ=11,12,13,14,15,16,17,19,21,23,26&UF=2295&TF=90&SL=2.6&UN=KMH&DV=gearInches
>  
>  
> Dropping to a 22t small ring would mimic your low range of gears almost 
> exactly. I'm looking forward to riding this gearing. I think I'll have a 
> little more resolution in the 70s, and an extra 105" gear at the top end. 
>
> Philip 
> Santa Rosa, Ca
>
>
> On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 5:50:45 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> I've been running 42/25T x9  for years and love it.  Using a custom 
>> cassette, *here's my gear chart 
>> *
>>
>> Should be able to easily switch your combination into Mike's calculator.  
>>
>> If you try to bookmark yours, change the title and hit return, then hit 
>> save, recall, bookmark at every button you can find on the page - 
>>
>> - before you quit, copy the bookmark link at the bottom of the page and 
>> paste into a new window to make sure it kept your changes.  Then save your 
>> bookmark.  
>>
>> 
>>
>> Chain guard
>>
>>
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Sugino 40x26 wide low double?

[George Schick]

Ditto.  I was using a long cage derailleur when I switched to the Sugino 
double a couple of years ago and noticed that shifting was slow (this is 
with a 5-speed freewheel).  I dug up and old Shimano Crane out of my parts 
box, installed it, and removed a couple chain links.  Now it shifts 
lightning quick.  I like the gearing, as well.  Gives me a top-end in the 
low 80's and a low in the low 30's, which is fine for the terrain over 
which I ride and sufficient range for my aging carcass.


On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 12:41:05 AM UTC-6, Ian A wrote:
>
> Joe's observation of crisp front shifting is bang on. I have found another 
> benefit of a compact double (converted triple) is being able to run a short 
> cage rear derailleur, which feels better to me than a long cage in this 
> application. My 130bcd Sugino GP now sports an outer chainguard and 45/30 
> in front with a nine speed 12-27 cassette, paired with Suntour barends. I'm 
> very pleased with the shifting with this set-up.
>
> IanA
>
> "The Q is the same, you're just replacing the big ring with a chainguard. 
> The main benefit of a Wide-Low double is you can set the fd stops to cover 
> just the two rings, making friction front shifting almost index-like: "
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Sugino 40x26 wide low double?

[Philip Williamson]

I was just defining my wide-low double gear setup for my new Fitz All-Road, 
and the gearing looks pretty similar. 

40/24 x 11-26 11 speed, with 55mm tires. 
http://www.gear-calculator.com/?GR=DERS&KB=24,40&RZ=11,12,13,14,15,16,17,19,21,23,26&UF=2295&TF=90&SL=2.6&UN=KMH&DV=gearInches
 
 
Dropping to a 22t small ring would mimic your low range of gears almost 
exactly. I'm looking forward to riding this gearing. I think I'll have a 
little more resolution in the 70s, and an extra 105" gear at the top end. 

Philip 
Santa Rosa, Ca


On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 5:50:45 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I've been running 42/25T x9  for years and love it.  Using a custom 
> cassette, *here's my gear chart 
> *
>
> Should be able to easily switch your combination into Mike's calculator.  
>
> If you try to bookmark yours, change the title and hit return, then hit 
> save, recall, bookmark at every button you can find on the page - 
>
> - before you quit, copy the bookmark link at the bottom of the page and 
> paste into a new window to make sure it kept your changes.  Then save your 
> bookmark.  
>
> 
>
> Chain guard
>
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Sugino 40x26 wide low double?

[Ron Mc]

I've been running 42/25T x9  for years and love it.  Using a custom 
cassette, *here's my gear chart 
*

Should be able to easily switch your combination into Mike's calculator.  

If you try to bookmark yours, change the title and hit return, then hit 
save, recall, bookmark at every button you can find on the page - 

- before you quit, copy the bookmark link at the bottom of the page and 
paste into a new window to make sure it kept your changes.  Then save your 
bookmark.  



Chain guard


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Sugino 40x26 wide low double?

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

I'll add that the chainguard is useful when one rides with normal long 
pants, as part of the unracer philosophy, because it eliminates grease 
stains without having to fold the right pant leg. For a commuter bike, this 
is an almost necessity.


On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 8:47:23 AM UTC+8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The Q is the same, you're just replacing the big ring with a chainguard. 
> The main benefit of a Wide-Low double is you can set the fd stops to cover 
> just the two rings, making friction front shifting almost index-like: push 
> one way for low, the other way for high. You don't have the fiddliness of 
> centering over the middle ring while trying not to catch the big one. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Sugino 40x26 wide low double?

[John Bokman]

Thanks Joe.


On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 4:47:23 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The Q is the same, you're just replacing the big ring with a chainguard. 
> The main benefit of a Wide-Low double is you can set the fd stops to cover 
> just the two rings, making friction front shifting almost index-like: push 
> one way for low, the other way for high. You don't have the fiddliness of 
> centering over the middle ring while trying not to catch the big one. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.