Re: [RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-18 Thread EGNolan
Just don't poke fun at the $15 shifter Skenry, that was me...
 

On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:53:02 PM UTC-5, Skenry wrote:

  Its nice to sell stuff here (or on the BoB list) because its easy.  But 
 really its not that hard to sell on eBay.  I posted about 9 things last 
 week and am in process of having about a $500 day from stuff in my 
 garage.   I'm sure I could have listed and sold here, and I did post an 
 auction link, but eBay lets the market drive the price up.  Due to the 
 nature of an auction, I'm getting many times what I would have offered via 
 an email here.
  
 Example: $26 for a broken rear deraileur and $62 for some obsolete pedals
  
 God Bless the Free Market!!!
 Scott
  
  
  
  


 On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Michael john1...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

  I bought my Bleriot online from a really nice guy either from here, the 
 BOG, or a general cycling forum. I don't know which.
 He was very helpful and patient to answer all my pre-purchase questions 
 and even questions I had during assembly.
  

 He was very kind, and although he was going to ask for more on ebay, he 
 sold the bike to me for a very nice price.
   

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Re: [RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-18 Thread Scott Henry
No poking fun, that one still works and everything.
and it was shipped to you Priority this morning.

Scott



On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:43 PM, EGNolan egno...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just don't poke fun at the $15 shifter Skenry, that was me...


 On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:53:02 PM UTC-5, Skenry wrote:

  Its nice to sell stuff here (or on the BoB list) because its easy.  But
 really its not that hard to sell on eBay.  I posted about 9 things last
 week and am in process of having about a $500 day from stuff in my
 garage.   I'm sure I could have listed and sold here, and I did post an
 auction link, but eBay lets the market drive the price up.  Due to the
 nature of an auction, I'm getting many times what I would have offered via
 an email here.

 Example: $26 for a broken rear deraileur and $62 for some obsolete pedals

 God Bless the Free Market!!!
 Scott






 On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Michael john1...@gmail.com wrote:

  I bought my Bleriot online from a really nice guy either from here,
 the BOG, or a general cycling forum. I don't know which.
 He was very helpful and patient to answer all my pre-purchase questions
 and even questions I had during assembly.


 He was very kind, and although he was going to ask for more on ebay, he
 sold the bike to me for a very nice price.


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[RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-16 Thread C.J. Filip
Takes cake:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1991-Gary-Fisher-Procaliber-Mountain-Bike-20-Bicycle-Suntour-XC-Comp-/350558611359?pt=Mountain_Bikeshash=item519eebe79f

Acquisition business?  No, hoarding is a mental disorder.

On Jan 15, 4:39 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
wrote:
 That particular bike is being sold by budget bicycle center in Madison, which 
 is an amazing establishment. I have visited that store several times. It's 
 actually four or five stores, all on the same street, the most interesting of 
 which is an unheated warehouse of every bike you can imagine, all at 
 RIDICULOUS prices. Ladies Raleigh Sports in decent shape? $500. Run of the 
 mill 1970s Paramount? $2500. Schwinn Varsity? $600. If you show interest in 
 any of the bikes, and look at it again tomorrow, the price will be 
 significantly increased. My friend tried to deal on a tandem there, but the 
 salesperson said it wasn't actually for sale - the price tag was for 
 insurance reasons. After several mystifying visits, I asked one of the 
 employees about the business model. He said that his boss is in the 
 acquisition business and confessed that he didn't understand it either, 
 except as a possible tax dodge of some kind. They've been in business for a 
 long time, so it must work for them, somehow. Anyhow, they post grossly 
 overpriced items on eBay all the time.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-16 Thread Eric Norris
My Dad used to tell me how he and his brother had a great plan to sell baloney 
sandwiches for $10,000. They figured they wouldn't sell many, but they only 
needed to sell one ...

Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

On Jan 16, 2013, at 6:00 AM, C.J. Filip c.j.fi...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Takes cake:
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1991-Gary-Fisher-Procaliber-Mountain-Bike-20-Bicycle-Suntour-XC-Comp-/350558611359?pt=Mountain_Bikeshash=item519eebe79f
 
 Acquisition business?  No, hoarding is a mental disorder.
 
 On Jan 15, 4:39 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
 wrote:
 That particular bike is being sold by budget bicycle center in Madison, 
 which is an amazing establishment. I have visited that store several times. 
 It's actually four or five stores, all on the same street, the most 
 interesting of which is an unheated warehouse of every bike you can imagine, 
 all at RIDICULOUS prices. Ladies Raleigh Sports in decent shape? $500. Run 
 of the mill 1970s Paramount? $2500. Schwinn Varsity? $600. If you show 
 interest in any of the bikes, and look at it again tomorrow, the price will 
 be significantly increased. My friend tried to deal on a tandem there, but 
 the salesperson said it wasn't actually for sale - the price tag was for 
 insurance reasons. After several mystifying visits, I asked one of the 
 employees about the business model. He said that his boss is in the 
 acquisition business and confessed that he didn't understand it either, 
 except as a possible tax dodge of some kind. They've been in business for a 
 long time, so it must work for them, somehow. Anyhow, they post grossly 
 overpriced items on eBay all the time.
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-16 Thread Peter Morgano
PT Barnum's book is one of the free downloads on Kindle, it is worth a read
if anyone wants to know how these guys' minds work, some pretty hilarious
stuff in there. Bike content...erm he had a bear ride a bike?

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 My Dad used to tell me how he and his brother had a great plan to sell
 baloney sandwiches for $10,000. They figured they wouldn't sell many, but
 they only needed to sell one ...

 Eric N
 www.CampyOnly.com
 CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
 Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

 On Jan 16, 2013, at 6:00 AM, C.J. Filip c.j.fi...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Takes cake:
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1991-Gary-Fisher-Procaliber-Mountain-Bike-20-Bicycle-Suntour-XC-Comp-/350558611359?pt=Mountain_Bikeshash=item519eebe79f
 
  Acquisition business?  No, hoarding is a mental disorder.
 
  On Jan 15, 4:39 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
  wrote:
  That particular bike is being sold by budget bicycle center in Madison,
 which is an amazing establishment. I have visited that store several times.
 It's actually four or five stores, all on the same street, the most
 interesting of which is an unheated warehouse of every bike you can
 imagine, all at RIDICULOUS prices. Ladies Raleigh Sports in decent shape?
 $500. Run of the mill 1970s Paramount? $2500. Schwinn Varsity? $600. If you
 show interest in any of the bikes, and look at it again tomorrow, the price
 will be significantly increased. My friend tried to deal on a tandem there,
 but the salesperson said it wasn't actually for sale - the price tag was
 for insurance reasons. After several mystifying visits, I asked one of
 the employees about the business model. He said that his boss is in the
 acquisition business and confessed that he didn't understand it either,
 except as a possible tax dodge of some kind. They've been in business for a
 long time, so it must work for them, somehow. Anyhow, they post grossly
 overpriced items on eBay all the time.
 
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[RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-16 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
My understanding, which is admittedly limited, is that the owner of BBC had a 
more or less typical used bike business for a couple decades until eBay came on 
the scene, and he started seeing vintage bikes selling for inflated prices. 
At his prices, he doesn't have to sell many...

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[RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-16 Thread Mike
I find selling stuff to be kind of hard. It's not the parting with stuff, 
it's just dealing with posting it, answering the emails and then getting it 
all packed. The reality is that my actual experience with selling things 
has been great. I posted a bunch of stuff here a while back and it all sold 
within like 24hrs or so. Everyone was great to deal with and getting the 
stuff out was pretty smooth. I underestimated shipping but ultimately I was 
looking to make space here at home and get items that should be in use out 
in the world. 

I think I've only purchased one thing from a group member, a Quickbeam 
frame a few years back and that went smoothly. I since sold that frame to a 
list member along with my old Rambouillet. The sales of both those big 
ticket items went smoothly and booth frames seem to have found good homes 
and put to use.

I consider this group to a be a community of sorts and like passing stuff 
along to folks here by people who seem to genuinely love Rivendell and 
Rivish parts. 

Next miserably rainy day here I'll most likely organize some more stuff for 
sale.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-16 Thread Michael


 I bought my Bleriot online from a really nice guy either from here, the 
 BOG, or a general cycling forum. I don't know which.
 He was very helpful and patient to answer all my pre-purchase questions 
 and even questions I had during assembly.
  

He was very kind, and although he was going to ask for more on ebay, he 
sold the bike to me for a very nice price.
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-16 Thread Scott Henry
Its nice to sell stuff here (or on the BoB list) because its easy.  But
really its not that hard to sell on eBay.  I posted about 9 things last
week and am in process of having about a $500 day from stuff in my
garage.   I'm sure I could have listed and sold here, and I did post an
auction link, but eBay lets the market drive the price up.  Due to the
nature of an auction, I'm getting many times what I would have offered via
an email here.

Example: $26 for a broken rear deraileur and $62 for some obsolete pedals

God Bless the Free Market!!!
Scott






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 I bought my Bleriot online from a really nice guy either from here, the
 BOG, or a general cycling forum. I don't know which.
 He was very helpful and patient to answer all my pre-purchase questions
 and even questions I had during assembly.


 He was very kind, and although he was going to ask for more on ebay, he
 sold the bike to me for a very nice price.


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[RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-15 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Redlands, CA. David?

On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 2:38:19 PM UTC-6, William wrote:

 Somebody auctioned his NOS blue bullmooses.  He started the auction at a 
 really low price, but it blew up at the end to $168.  More than retail.  


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/330855382580?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 I had my eye on them when they were in the $30 to $50 range.  Kind of 
 surprising that they went that high.  I guess it only takes two bidders who 
 REALLY want them for an auction to go up.  


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[RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-15 Thread Michael


 Apparently there is a market.
 Sometimes I am taken aback at the high prices Rivish stuff is offered for 
 even on this forum.
 Used items at or just below new prices. Or even more than what was 
 originally paid for the year the item was for sale new.
  

Well, that's the good thing about ebay. You can wind up getting a great 
sale and alot more than you expected to sell it for. 

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[RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-15 Thread Michael


 Apparently there is a market.
 Sometimes I am taken aback at the high prices Rivish stuff is offered for.
 *Used *items at or just below new prices. Or even more than what they 
 went for the year the item was for sale new.

 Well, that's the good thing about ebay. You can wind up getting a great 
 sale and alot more than you expected to sell it for.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-15 Thread Peter Morgano
I find the forum to be much more reasonable, probably because the ebay
premiums aren't factored in and because of the more human connection. That
said, it's capitalism and if you want it bad enough you gotta pay!
On Jan 15, 2013 4:18 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Apparently there is a market.
 Sometimes I am taken aback at the high prices Rivish stuff is offered
 for.
 *Used *items at or just below new prices. Or even more than what they
 went for the year the item was for sale new.

 Well, that's the good thing about ebay. You can wind up getting a great
 sale and alot more than you expected to sell it for.

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[RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-15 Thread rob markwardt
BBC bikes?  Those guys are nuts!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bicycle-Front-Hub-axle-nuts-for-Schwinn-5-16-NOS-metric-thread-pair-NEW-/290805111579





On Jan 15, 5:12 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was waiting for Jim Thill to re-explain bbcbikes, because I knew I'd
 screw it up.  My bbcbikes listing that I've been watching for YEARS is:

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Aero-Miyata-Road-bike-60cm-bicycle-Sh...

 It's an Aero Miyata with a dent so severe, that I'd never even consider
 the bike rideable.  Part out the vintage Dura Ace AX parts and you could
 recoup maybe $500 worth of the $2499 asking price.  It's been listed
 continuously for years.

 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:39:44 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 wrote:









  That particular bike is being sold by budget bicycle center in Madison,
  which is an amazing establishment. I have visited that store several times.
  It's actually four or five stores, all on the same street, the most
  interesting of which is an unheated warehouse of every bike you can
  imagine, all at RIDICULOUS prices. Ladies Raleigh Sports in decent shape?
  $500. Run of the mill 1970s Paramount? $2500. Schwinn Varsity? $600. If you
  show interest in any of the bikes, and look at it again tomorrow, the price
  will be significantly increased. My friend tried to deal on a tandem there,
  but the salesperson said it wasn't actually for sale - the price tag was
  for insurance reasons. After several mystifying visits, I asked one of
  the employees about the business model. He said that his boss is in the
  acquisition business and confessed that he didn't understand it either,
  except as a possible tax dodge of some kind. They've been in business for a
  long time, so it must work for them, somehow. Anyhow, they post grossly
  overpriced items on eBay all the time.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-15 Thread cyclotourist
No, not I. I don't know anyone around town that owns a Rivendell, although
a couple guys are quite appreciative of the ethos.


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
thill@gmail.com wrote:

 Redlands, CA. David?


 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 2:38:19 PM UTC-6, William wrote:

 Somebody auctioned his NOS blue bullmooses.  He started the auction at a
 really low price, but it blew up at the end to $168.  More than retail.

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/**330855382580?ssPageName=STRK:**
 MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1423.**l2649http://www.ebay.com/itm/330855382580?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 I had my eye on them when they were in the $30 to $50 range.  Kind of
 surprising that they went that high.  I guess it only takes two bidders who
 REALLY want them for an auction to go up.

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[RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-15 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
BIN listings are cheap, sometimes free on eBay. If occasionally something sells 
ridiculously, bbc wins.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-15 Thread cyclotourist
Seller has had a lot of misc. stuff for sale, much of it bike related.
Looks like s/he is re-selling a lot of random stuff.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2userid=greenachat44_trksid=p2047675.l2560rt=nciid=330855382580sspagename=VIP:feedbackftab=FeedbackAsSeller


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:51 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 No, not I. I don't know anyone around town that owns a Rivendell, although
 a couple guys are quite appreciative of the ethos.


 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
 thill@gmail.com wrote:

 Redlands, CA. David?


 On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 2:38:19 PM UTC-6, William wrote:

 Somebody auctioned his NOS blue bullmooses.  He started the auction at a
 really low price, but it blew up at the end to $168.  More than retail.

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/**330855382580?ssPageName=STRK:**
 MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1423.**l2649http://www.ebay.com/itm/330855382580?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 I had my eye on them when they were in the $30 to $50 range.  Kind of
 surprising that they went that high.  I guess it only takes two bidders who
 REALLY want them for an auction to go up.

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