[RBW] Re: The joy of winter riding, and how do you keep your toes warm?
Roberta Patrick hit the nail on the head about using liner socks inside a pair of wool socks. I'll add this: The liner should be a very thin polyproprelene sock, like Wigwam Gobi Desert Dri. It wicks the moisture from your skin. Try a thinner wool sock (main sock) to provide space for air insulation. Like someone else said, your sneakers are good at blocking the wind John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:27:09 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote: > Inspired by the wonderful cold weather rides and pics recently (and > others, too, on Instagram), I decided I should not stop riding just because > the temperature is below 60*. Yes, you read that right. Pre-Riv, when > the weather got below 60*, I’d stop riding because it was “too cold.” > > Well, I’ve learned a lot here in the last 3 ½ years. Last year, I rode > when it was in the 40’s. Yesterday and today, I was out in 32* and 27* > temperatures, respectively, and it was glorious! I finally learned how > to dress properly for cold weather riding. There were less crowds on the > trail and I was more comfortable than when it’s in the 90’s. > > I highly recommend it! > Also, how do you keep your toes warm? It was the only cold part of my > body. I was wearing leather sneakers and cotton socks (only because I > couldn't find my wool ones). Winter temps usually don't often go below 30*. > > Roberta > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/af7b55bc-20c1-4bf9-9e90-4c51a5fe8d2en%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: The joy of winter riding, and how do you keep your toes warm?
Coming in late on this thread. Clipping in will make your feet colder as the cleat is a heat sink. Even if you clip in normally, going to platforms in winter is a thought. If it's just cold but not too windy, thick wool socks in sandals does keep feet warm and allows moisture to wick away. I have several pairs of wool socks in thin, medium and heavy thickness. I also have sock liners with reflective material that bounces heat back at my feet. In wind or wet, the sealskins already mentioned are good. they allow wicking out but not water getting in. They need socks inside. If it's warmer, say in the 32F to 45F range, I just wear leather sneakers a half size larger (also as noted above by others) with medium weight wool socks. I never would have tried sandals and wool socks, but a northern randonneuse came down for one of my 300K winter brevets a few years ago and that's what she had on. The set up worked so I gave it a try. Tailwinds Bruce On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 4:01:19 AM UTC-6 Nick Payne wrote: > In our winter here we are often riding in the morning in temperatures a > few degrees below zero (Celcius) - say low 20s Fahrenheit. As I use MTB > pedals, I wear Shimano MW7 winter boots - they're not cheap, but they do a > good job of keeping my feet warm when out on rides of two or three hours in > those sort of temperatures. > > If you tend to suffer from cold hands, lobster mitts are good, as they > minimise the amount of surface area through which heat is lost. I have some > Carnac ones, and my wife has some Pearl Izumi: > > [image: 0177487f-06b8-474d-b4d7-e4111a6374c2[1].jpg] > > Nick Payne > Canberra > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1232c7c7-9ed7-409d-b509-bde2c9c7b7b7n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: The joy of winter riding, and how do you keep your toes warm?
In our winter here we are often riding in the morning in temperatures a few degrees below zero (Celcius) - say low 20s Fahrenheit. As I use MTB pedals, I wear Shimano MW7 winter boots - they're not cheap, but they do a good job of keeping my feet warm when out on rides of two or three hours in those sort of temperatures. If you tend to suffer from cold hands, lobster mitts are good, as they minimise the amount of surface area through which heat is lost. I have some Carnac ones, and my wife has some Pearl Izumi: [image: 0177487f-06b8-474d-b4d7-e4111a6374c2[1].jpg] Nick Payne Canberra -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1b5d373e-f22f-4658-be5e-4e41b0a73832n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: The joy of winter riding, and how do you keep your toes warm?
Winter mountain bike boots if clip on pedals (they're like XC ski boots).
Or any kind of neoprene / low muck boot. With sheepskin liner.
Footwarmers ("hot hands" brand).
I have frostbitten feet (once you have them, they're with you for good).
And so i ALWAYS use footwarmers; i ride sometimes down to 0°
Balaclava
Sheepskin mittens
Ski goggles.
Scarf.
On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:27:09 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
> Inspired by the wonderful cold weather rides and pics recently (and
> others, too, on Instagram), I decided I should not stop riding just because
> the temperature is below 60*. Yes, you read that right. Pre-Riv, when
> the weather got below 60*, I’d stop riding because it was “too cold.”
>
> Well, I’ve learned a lot here in the last 3 ½ years. Last year, I rode
> when it was in the 40’s. Yesterday and today, I was out in 32* and 27*
> temperatures, respectively, and it was glorious! I finally learned how
> to dress properly for cold weather riding. There were less crowds on the
> trail and I was more comfortable than when it’s in the 90’s.
>
> I highly recommend it!
> Also, how do you keep your toes warm? It was the only cold part of my
> body. I was wearing leather sneakers and cotton socks (only because I
> couldn't find my wool ones). Winter temps usually don't often go below 30*.
>
> Roberta
>
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[RBW] Re: The joy of winter riding, and how do you keep your toes warm?
Commuting in Michigan I have learned to use Grabber Toe warmers. I place them on top of my wool socks on the top of my feet under my Chrome boots. They last for hours, so, after a shorter ride, place them in a zip lock bag, squeeze the air out and seal them up. They will still be working the next couple of times you need them. I stay comfy at temps below 0. Marc On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:27:09 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote: > Inspired by the wonderful cold weather rides and pics recently (and > others, too, on Instagram), I decided I should not stop riding just because > the temperature is below 60*. Yes, you read that right. Pre-Riv, when > the weather got below 60*, I’d stop riding because it was “too cold.” > > Well, I’ve learned a lot here in the last 3 ½ years. Last year, I rode > when it was in the 40’s. Yesterday and today, I was out in 32* and 27* > temperatures, respectively, and it was glorious! I finally learned how > to dress properly for cold weather riding. There were less crowds on the > trail and I was more comfortable than when it’s in the 90’s. > > I highly recommend it! > Also, how do you keep your toes warm? It was the only cold part of my > body. I was wearing leather sneakers and cotton socks (only because I > couldn't find my wool ones). Winter temps usually don't often go below 30*. > > Roberta > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/28dc94bf-ebfe-4ba8-b29d-de9c2246182fn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: The joy of winter riding, and how do you keep your toes warm?
Interesting, because someone else on the boblist recommended nitrile gloves under outer gloves in cold weather; must try this (have box of 100 with ~94 left sitting in my garage). Note though that wool will insulate even if wet; very very different from cotton and even many "wicking" synthetics. Now, it won't insulate as well as dry wool, but it will retain warmth when wet, which is a huge advantage. On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 4:12 AM Garth wrote: > ... I also wear some of those thin nitrile gloves under all may winter > handwear to keep them warm. They say "single use only/disposable" but they > are far from it. I take them off inside out and let them air dry. Rinse and > dry if needed. A pair can last me 3-4 weeks before tearing. I have some 4 > and 6 mil. versions from Ammex and SAS. What the liner gloves do is keep > the insulation dry and the natural moisture on your hands. Wicking is great > in the warm but in winter it's not always so if your insulation gets wet. > It doesn't matter what that insulation is either, cold and wet is cold and > wet. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgvZrsua3BjH8wAMqxTRE6rfcB%3Da3Kmi4GLPVxWNJ-s2-A%40mail.gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: The joy of winter riding, and how do you keep your toes warm?
I ride in fairly cold conditions...I'm okay down to 15 degrees or so for my commute. I'm not on the bike long enough for the toes to go cold most of the time. On longer rides (15 miles is long for me) in temps in the 20s and 30s, I've found it really hard to keep my toes from getting really cold. What has worked okay for me is leather boots with a thin wool sock and a thicker wool sock over it. From how I understand it, layering and warmth is all about creating pockets of warm air between your skin and the cold air. I like boots better than sneakers because you have more room (typically) in a boot for that pocket of warm air. I'm very intrigued with this plastic bag business. Going to have to try it. -Ben On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 12:27:09 AM UTC-6 Roberta wrote: > Inspired by the wonderful cold weather rides and pics recently (and > others, too, on Instagram), I decided I should not stop riding just because > the temperature is below 60*. Yes, you read that right. Pre-Riv, when > the weather got below 60*, I’d stop riding because it was “too cold.” > > Well, I’ve learned a lot here in the last 3 ½ years. Last year, I rode > when it was in the 40’s. Yesterday and today, I was out in 32* and 27* > temperatures, respectively, and it was glorious! I finally learned how > to dress properly for cold weather riding. There were less crowds on the > trail and I was more comfortable than when it’s in the 90’s. > > I highly recommend it! > Also, how do you keep your toes warm? It was the only cold part of my > body. I was wearing leather sneakers and cotton socks (only because I > couldn't find my wool ones). Winter temps usually don't often go below 30*. > > Roberta > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/698627ba-b31c-4c3f-a087-ed40399bdf52n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: The joy of winter riding, and how do you keep your toes warm?
Some thicker and/or warmer socks will surely help with the warmth Roberta, if you have the room of course ! Your leather sneakers are great for blocking the wind. The plastic bag thing works well enough but I found I don't like having my entire foot wrapped in plastic, it's too slippery and bulky around the toes from excess bag ! I started chopping off ends of the bags to make them cover half my foot, but the bulk around the toes was still there. So a few years ago I recall doing a double take at those little air filled packing tubes you get from shippers, I think they say "AIRplus" on them. About 7"x4". I thought hmmm.. those would make some nice toe/foot booties. So what I did is separate them individually, cut one of the ends off at the seam with a scissors. Now carefully use your hands to separate 1, just 1 of the long side seams all the way to the other end. You'll end up with 1 side and 1 end open, the other 2 in tact. Now you have a nice fitting toe bootie that is placed over your socks inside your shoes. It doesn't alter the fit at all, and the best thing is your feet don't slide around because the rest of your foot isn't covered. I've done this for years and do it with pretty much every shoe I wear in the cold winter here in Ohio. Each bootie lasts a 2-4 weeks before it starts to tear and need replaced, but so what, I have an abundant supply furnished from packages. Even on shoes that block the wind, these booties add a certain vapor barrier effect that helps keep a certain moisture level on your toes/forefoot. My feet have never become soaked with these, even when I've worn them in too warm of weather. I also wear some of those thin nitrile gloves under all may winter handwear to keep them warm. They say "single use only/disposable" but they are far from it. I take them off inside out and let them air dry. Rinse and dry if needed. A pair can last me 3-4 weeks before tearing. I have some 4 and 6 mil. versions from Ammex and SAS. What the liner gloves do is keep the insulation dry and the natural moisture on your hands. Wicking is great in the warm but in winter it's not always so if your insulation gets wet. It doesn't matter what that insulation is either, cold and wet is cold and wet. On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 2:38:30 AM UTC-5 Tom M wrote: > I've had good luck with shoe covers as well. I have some Pearl Izumi > stretchy ones that fit fine over my Five-Tens. They make a difference on > colder days. > Happy riding > Tom Milani > Alexandria, VA USA > > On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:55:45 AM UTC-5 Ian A wrote: > >> A cool weather ride can be wonderful if you can stay warm in the fingers >> and toes. I have found shoe covers effective over cycling shoes. In colder >> weather, thick socks inside hiking boots. In really cold weather, plastic >> bread bags between the boot and sock - this can lead to sweaty feet if not >> cold enough! >> >> IanA Alberta Canada >> >> On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 11:27:09 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote: >> >>> Inspired by the wonderful cold weather rides and pics recently (and >>> others, too, on Instagram), I decided I should not stop riding just because >>> the temperature is below 60*. Yes, you read that right. Pre-Riv, when >>> the weather got below 60*, I’d stop riding because it was “too cold.” >>> >>> Well, I’ve learned a lot here in the last 3 ½ years. Last year, I rode >>> when it was in the 40’s. Yesterday and today, I was out in 32* and 27* >>> temperatures, respectively, and it was glorious! I finally learned how >>> to dress properly for cold weather riding. There were less crowds on >>> the trail and I was more comfortable than when it’s in the 90’s. >>> >>> I highly recommend it! >>> Also, how do you keep your toes warm? It was the only cold part of my >>> body. I was wearing leather sneakers and cotton socks (only because I >>> couldn't find my wool ones). Winter temps usually don't often go below 30*. >>> >>> Roberta >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9396f2f7-db13-4d8a-be79-8cdfa0be2d52n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: The joy of winter riding, and how do you keep your toes warm?
I've had good luck with shoe covers as well. I have some Pearl Izumi stretchy ones that fit fine over my Five-Tens. They make a difference on colder days. Happy riding Tom Milani Alexandria, VA USA On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:55:45 AM UTC-5 Ian A wrote: > A cool weather ride can be wonderful if you can stay warm in the fingers > and toes. I have found shoe covers effective over cycling shoes. In colder > weather, thick socks inside hiking boots. In really cold weather, plastic > bread bags between the boot and sock - this can lead to sweaty feet if not > cold enough! > > IanA Alberta Canada > > On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 11:27:09 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote: > >> Inspired by the wonderful cold weather rides and pics recently (and >> others, too, on Instagram), I decided I should not stop riding just because >> the temperature is below 60*. Yes, you read that right. Pre-Riv, when >> the weather got below 60*, I’d stop riding because it was “too cold.” >> >> Well, I’ve learned a lot here in the last 3 ½ years. Last year, I rode >> when it was in the 40’s. Yesterday and today, I was out in 32* and 27* >> temperatures, respectively, and it was glorious! I finally learned how >> to dress properly for cold weather riding. There were less crowds on >> the trail and I was more comfortable than when it’s in the 90’s. >> >> I highly recommend it! >> Also, how do you keep your toes warm? It was the only cold part of my >> body. I was wearing leather sneakers and cotton socks (only because I >> couldn't find my wool ones). Winter temps usually don't often go below 30*. >> >> Roberta >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3f441c38-18ca-4c6e-9f49-e7946bcb0fd4n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: The joy of winter riding, and how do you keep your toes warm?
A cool weather ride can be wonderful if you can stay warm in the fingers and toes. I have found shoe covers effective over cycling shoes. In colder weather, thick socks inside hiking boots. In really cold weather, plastic bread bags between the boot and sock - this can lead to sweaty feet if not cold enough! IanA Alberta Canada On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 11:27:09 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote: > Inspired by the wonderful cold weather rides and pics recently (and > others, too, on Instagram), I decided I should not stop riding just because > the temperature is below 60*. Yes, you read that right. Pre-Riv, when > the weather got below 60*, I’d stop riding because it was “too cold.” > > Well, I’ve learned a lot here in the last 3 ½ years. Last year, I rode > when it was in the 40’s. Yesterday and today, I was out in 32* and 27* > temperatures, respectively, and it was glorious! I finally learned how > to dress properly for cold weather riding. There were less crowds on the > trail and I was more comfortable than when it’s in the 90’s. > > I highly recommend it! > Also, how do you keep your toes warm? It was the only cold part of my > body. I was wearing leather sneakers and cotton socks (only because I > couldn't find my wool ones). Winter temps usually don't often go below 30*. > > Roberta > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a7185641-2695-474f-82d0-576acd10b3cbn%40googlegroups.com.
