[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-28 Thread ascpgh
Fantastic! Great to hear that spring is actually happening anywhere. Snow 
without accumulation all day yesterday, fluffy coating everywhere this 
morning and 19°, high of 28°. I don't think my plodding winter miles would 
be enough base to take a 50 mile ride yet alone 70. I'd  be frozen 
somewhere around the 30 mile mark.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 4:16:15 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I cheated and it was nearly all paved, but I did 70 miles on the Quickbeam 
 today, to Deckers, then 6 miles North along the Platte (back to where we 
 camped a few night ago). Just using basic math I averaged 11-12 mph, which 
 is pretty good given the climbing involved. The section along the Platte 
 river is dreamy. Just meandering along with the river realitively flat 
 either way. What a blast! I haven't felt this good on that ride ever, so I 
 must be doing something right. Grin. Perhaps I'll get cocky and give Pikes 
 Peak another go on the QB later this year. Grin.

 Photos start here and go for a total of four progressing left: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16741137817/

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 Patrick


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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-28 Thread Deacon Patrick
I hear you, Andy. We're likely to get snow for the next month and a half, 
though it's the spring kind that vanishes the next day or two in a  wet 
sloppy mess. I was glad I got my ride in yesterday. Hard brain day today 
has me not doing too much, though I managed a family ride with everyone of 
8 miles (my wife's just getting back into biking and she has the piccolo 
behind her as it doesn't work with my vertigo. I do get to haul our 2-year 
old on a seat in front of me. Makes my knees stick out like a bow-legged 
rider. Grin. Enjoy the weekend!

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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
I cheated and it was nearly all paved, but I did 70 miles on the Quickbeam 
today, to Deckers, then 6 miles North along the Platte (back to where we 
camped a few night ago). Just using basic math I averaged 11-12 mph, which 
is pretty good given the climbing involved. The section along the Platte 
river is dreamy. Just meandering along with the river realitively flat 
either way. What a blast! I haven't felt this good on that ride ever, so I 
must be doing something right. Grin. Perhaps I'll get cocky and give Pikes 
Peak another go on the QB later this year. Grin.

Photos start here and go for a total of four progressing 
left: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16741137817/

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-27 Thread Patrick Moore
Oh, I have to hear about Pikes Peak!

It sounds like a great ride. We mere mortals can only look on and sigh.

Patrick Moore, who liked to think that he could climb well in a fixed gear
...

[And who belatedly -- actually used the 19 t on the Dingle; perhaps the
second time in 2 years -- discovered on yesterday's mere 18 mile ride how
dropping from a 70 gear to a 63 gear makes a huge difference in ease of
climbing. But it's cheating.]

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 I cheated and it was nearly all paved, but I did 70 miles on the Quickbeam
 today, to Deckers, then 6 miles North along the Platte (back to where we
 camped a few night ago). Just using basic math I averaged 11-12 mph, which
 is pretty good given the climbing involved. The section along the Platte
 river is dreamy. Just meandering along with the river realitively flat
 either way. What a blast! I haven't felt this good on that ride ever, so I
 must be doing something right. Grin. Perhaps I'll get cocky and give Pikes
 Peak another go on the QB later this year. Grin.

 Photos start here and go for a total of four progressing left:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16741137817/

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
Oh, I cheat big time with a 32/19 and a 32/22 bail out. The 32/22 will be 
the Pikes Peak gear should I go that route. It's all paved, and the 
Hunqapillar's Smart Sams are just not fun on pavement while the QB's MSO's 
are fantastic. I'm just concerned what happens with wind and altitude above 
treeline. That last 2,000 feet is the hardest part of the 7,000 foot climb. 
I need to put in more climbs and longer rides first, then I'll see. I'm not 
cocky yet. Grin.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-27 Thread WETH
Deacon Patrick,
Impressive to me is 70 miles!  You created some amazing photographs too.

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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-14 Thread Dave Johnston
I enjoyed the tips, but maybe, just maybe 50 miles a day in the mountains 
on a single speed is enough?

-Dave J
Flatland, VA

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:40:46 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Simple version of the question: What tips/suggestions do folks who ride 
 the QB on longer rides with long, relatively steep climbs have for doing so 
 on rides of 50-100 miles?

 Background: I love the Quickbeam for rides under 50 miles, but seem to 
 struggle with rides over 50. Tips/suggestions for how to pace yourself with 
 higher gearing on long climbs? I’ve got the ss “dance” down well, and do 
 just fine on the “early” climbs, but them am blows after 50 miles. Whereas 
 with my geared Hunqapillar, longer rides (loaded on continental divide MTB 
 trail roads) I do great.

 I know there is no magic answer and the answer at least includes “slowly 
 build up distance.” I’m already stronger than I was this time last year, so 
 am well on my way. Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-11 Thread Deacon Patrick
Metin, I meant to respond to your 2-4 o'clock back off approach. You 
describe that sweet spot very well. It's almost coasting along while 
climbing, if that makes any sense. It least it feels like it, till it gets 
steeper, then it's more backing off as you describe. Of course in SS (or 
fixed) the gear is in the effort. But there is only so much you can 
decrease the effort and still go up. Grin. then walking comes into play and 
I am happy in LCG.

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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-11 Thread Metin Uz
I used 47x18 on the same ride, fixed. Usually you can get away with a lower 
gear ratio with a freewheel, but that may make it harder to stay with 
geared bikes on the flats. I like to use the highest gear I can get away 
with in the steepest bits, then hope that I have enough left in my legs for 
the final climb up to the Golden Gate.

--Metin

On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 3:47:49 PM UTC-7, Clayton.sf wrote:

 I think longer ss rides are best accomplished with the just do it 
 approach. Ideally make it an official ride. I have found Brevets to be 
 ideal for this. You can ride at your own pace but there is still enough 
 shame involved to make you not want to quit ;-). 
 Gearing is somewhat personal. I used 42x18 for last month's 300k and found 
 it too low. 42x17 would have been nicer. 
 Remembering that it does not need to be fun to be fun can help too 

 Best, 
 Clayton, SF

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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-10 Thread Deacon Patrick
Admittedly, Matt, I have no personal experience with BMX freewheels. I've 
simply read online about how they have short lives due to unsealed bearings 
etc. At the moment, though, it is beside the point, as I can't find 
anything in a 24t. White Industries makes the 23t as someone mentioned, but 
I'm not convinced that one tooth different is big enough in a bigger cog 
like that (% of change drops per tooth as the cog gets bigger).

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 2:50:35 AM UTC-6, Matt Beebe wrote:



 On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 9:28:33 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I'm not sure I would trust a BMX to those demands out in the boondocks 
 miles from anyone.



 Why not?YMMV but BMX freewheels (e.g. ACS crossfire) are pretty 
 bulletproof in my experience. 


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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-10 Thread Clayton.sf
I think longer ss rides are best accomplished with the just do it approach. 
Ideally make it an official ride. I have found Brevets to be ideal for this. 
You can ride at your own pace but there is still enough shame involved to make 
you not want to quit ;-).
Gearing is somewhat personal. I used 42x18 for last month's 300k and found it 
too low. 42x17 would have been nicer. 
Remembering that it does not need to be fun to be fun can help too

Best,
Clayton, SF

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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-10 Thread Matt Beebe


On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 9:28:33 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I'm not sure I would trust a BMX to those demands out in the boondocks 
 miles from anyone.



Why not?YMMV but BMX freewheels (e.g. ACS crossfire) are pretty 
bulletproof in my experience. 

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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-09 Thread Metin Uz
I ride brevets on fixed gear, from 200K to 1000K in length. While these are 
not over steep mountain passes, there is usually 6K to 8K elevation gain 
per 200K, with some hills averaging 8-10% grade over several miles. I used 
to go all out in these sections and get tired very quickly. Two things I 
learned: relax and rest during the flatter sections, especially before long 
climbs. Even more importantly, learn to relax in the steep sections. There 
is a sweet spot in the pedaling cycle (from 2 o'clock to 4 o'clock) where 
pedaling gets easier. The natural tendency is to accelerate through this 
section. In a long climb, I use this time to reduce my effort and give my 
legs a brief respite.

--Metin

On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 2:12:06 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 As you can see from the many responses, ss mountain riding is a thriving 
 and popular activity. My experience is similar to yours, in that the miles 
 beyond 50 are far harder than the pre-50 if there is significant climbing 
 involved. I think walking more of the climbs instead of muscling the pedals 
 all the way to the top helps me some but at this point, if I want to go 
 long, I take my 1x9.

 jim m
 wc ca 

 On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 6:40:46 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Simple version of the question: What tips/suggestions do folks who ride 
 the QB on longer rides with long, relatively steep climbs have for doing so 
 on rides of 50-100 miles?

 Background: I love the Quickbeam for rides under 50 miles, but seem to 
 struggle with rides over 50. Tips/suggestions for how to pace yourself with 
 higher gearing on long climbs? I’ve got the ss “dance” down well, and do 
 just fine on the “early” climbs, but them am blows after 50 miles. Whereas 
 with my geared Hunqapillar, longer rides (loaded on continental divide MTB 
 trail roads) I do great.

 I know there is no magic answer and the answer at least includes “slowly 
 build up distance.” I’m already stronger than I was this time last year, so 
 am well on my way. Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-09 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
My buddy rides SS 29er exclusively, including endurance racing. He rides 
the Stagecoach 400 https://socalenduro.wordpress.com/stagecoach-400/ 
every year on it. I think his trick is low gearing. I never looked 
specifically, but I'm guessing below 2:1, maybe even lower than 3:2.

On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 2:29:02 PM UTC-7, Metin Uz wrote:

 I ride brevets on fixed gear, from 200K to 1000K in length. While these 
 are not over steep mountain passes, there is usually 6K to 8K elevation 
 gain per 200K, with some hills averaging 8-10% grade over several miles. I 
 used to go all out in these sections and get tired very quickly. Two things 
 I learned: relax and rest during the flatter sections, especially before 
 long climbs. Even more importantly, learn to relax in the steep sections. 
 There is a sweet spot in the pedaling cycle (from 2 o'clock to 4 o'clock) 
 where pedaling gets easier. The natural tendency is to accelerate through 
 this section. In a long climb, I use this time to reduce my effort and give 
 my legs a brief respite.

 --Metin

 On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 2:12:06 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 As you can see from the many responses, ss mountain riding is a thriving 
 and popular activity. My experience is similar to yours, in that the miles 
 beyond 50 are far harder than the pre-50 if there is significant climbing 
 involved. I think walking more of the climbs instead of muscling the pedals 
 all the way to the top helps me some but at this point, if I want to go 
 long, I take my 1x9.

 jim m
 wc ca 

 On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 6:40:46 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Simple version of the question: What tips/suggestions do folks who ride 
 the QB on longer rides with long, relatively steep climbs have for doing so 
 on rides of 50-100 miles?

 Background: I love the Quickbeam for rides under 50 miles, but seem to 
 struggle with rides over 50. Tips/suggestions for how to pace yourself with 
 higher gearing on long climbs? I’ve got the ss “dance” down well, and do 
 just fine on the “early” climbs, but them am blows after 50 miles. Whereas 
 with my geared Hunqapillar, longer rides (loaded on continental divide MTB 
 trail roads) I do great.

 I know there is no magic answer and the answer at least includes “slowly 
 build up distance.” I’m already stronger than I was this time last year, so 
 am well on my way. Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-09 Thread Ron Mc
my buddy just built an old Schwinn with a SRAM 2-speed automatic hub.  I 
automatically shifts at about 10 mph

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/Viner/unknown.jpg

a 22-tooth drive cog gave him 55- and 75 inch gears


On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 5:00:17 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 My buddy rides SS 29er exclusively, including endurance racing. He rides 
 the Stagecoach 400 https://socalenduro.wordpress.com/stagecoach-400/ 
 every year on it. I think his trick is low gearing. I never looked 
 specifically, but I'm guessing below 2:1, maybe even lower than 3:2.

 On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 2:29:02 PM UTC-7, Metin Uz wrote:

 I ride brevets on fixed gear, from 200K to 1000K in length. While these 
 are not over steep mountain passes, there is usually 6K to 8K elevation 
 gain per 200K, with some hills averaging 8-10% grade over several miles. I 
 used to go all out in these sections and get tired very quickly. Two things 
 I learned: relax and rest during the flatter sections, especially before 
 long climbs. Even more importantly, learn to relax in the steep sections. 
 There is a sweet spot in the pedaling cycle (from 2 o'clock to 4 o'clock) 
 where pedaling gets easier. The natural tendency is to accelerate through 
 this section. In a long climb, I use this time to reduce my effort and give 
 my legs a brief respite.

 --Metin

 On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 2:12:06 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 As you can see from the many responses, ss mountain riding is a thriving 
 and popular activity. My experience is similar to yours, in that the miles 
 beyond 50 are far harder than the pre-50 if there is significant climbing 
 involved. I think walking more of the climbs instead of muscling the pedals 
 all the way to the top helps me some but at this point, if I want to go 
 long, I take my 1x9.

 jim m
 wc ca 

 On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 6:40:46 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Simple version of the question: What tips/suggestions do folks who ride 
 the QB on longer rides with long, relatively steep climbs have for doing 
 so 
 on rides of 50-100 miles?

 Background: I love the Quickbeam for rides under 50 miles, but seem to 
 struggle with rides over 50. Tips/suggestions for how to pace yourself 
 with 
 higher gearing on long climbs? I’ve got the ss “dance” down well, and do 
 just fine on the “early” climbs, but them am blows after 50 miles. Whereas 
 with my geared Hunqapillar, longer rides (loaded on continental divide MTB 
 trail roads) I do great.

 I know there is no magic answer and the answer at least includes 
 “slowly build up distance.” I’m already stronger than I was this time last 
 year, so am well on my way. Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-09 Thread Jim M.
As you can see from the many responses, ss mountain riding is a thriving 
and popular activity. My experience is similar to yours, in that the miles 
beyond 50 are far harder than the pre-50 if there is significant climbing 
involved. I think walking more of the climbs instead of muscling the pedals 
all the way to the top helps me some but at this point, if I want to go 
long, I take my 1x9.

jim m
wc ca 

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 6:40:46 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Simple version of the question: What tips/suggestions do folks who ride 
 the QB on longer rides with long, relatively steep climbs have for doing so 
 on rides of 50-100 miles?

 Background: I love the Quickbeam for rides under 50 miles, but seem to 
 struggle with rides over 50. Tips/suggestions for how to pace yourself with 
 higher gearing on long climbs? I’ve got the ss “dance” down well, and do 
 just fine on the “early” climbs, but them am blows after 50 miles. Whereas 
 with my geared Hunqapillar, longer rides (loaded on continental divide MTB 
 trail roads) I do great.

 I know there is no magic answer and the answer at least includes “slowly 
 build up distance.” I’m already stronger than I was this time last year, so 
 am well on my way. Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Spot on Jim! This is a niche of a niche of niche question! Grin. My fall 
back answer is yours: either ride the Hunqapillar, or get a 1x9 Hillborne. 
(I love the go-fast ride of the QB, so the Hillborne is my long term 
solution, just haven't figured a way to get there, what with 5 Clementines 
on the way. Sardonic grin.).

My gearing is:
High: 40 x 16 (68 inches)
Low: 32 x 19 (46 inches)
Ultra low (I've used it only on my attempt of Pikes Peak last Autumn): 32 x 
22 (40 inches)

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-09 Thread Jim M.
IIRC, the low gear for Pikes was because of the length of the climb, not 
the steepness. I think that is probably a clue as to where your gearing 
should be for a long ride. I rarely go higher than 32x20, and I use 32x22 
pretty often. I have even used 32x24 once. The flat spots where one might 
spin out in that low gear are few, so it's climbing up and coasting down 
for most of the ride.

jim m
wc ca

On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Spot on Jim! This is a niche of a niche of niche question! Grin. My fall 
 back answer is yours: either ride the Hunqapillar, or get a 1x9 Hillborne. 
 (I love the go-fast ride of the QB, so the Hillborne is my long term 
 solution, just haven't figured a way to get there, what with 5 Clementines 
 on the way. Sardonic grin.).

 My gearing is:
 High: 40 x 16 (68 inches)
 Low: 32 x 19 (46 inches)
 Ultra low (I've used it only on my attempt of Pikes Peak last Autumn): 32 
 x 22 (40 inches)

 With abandon,
 Patrick


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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
It's long for a climb that steep (steep for a climb that long?), then toss 
in the altitude and headwinds and I made Glenn Cove and naught further. 
Where do you get a 24t cog?

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 6:18:35 PM UTC-6, Jim M. wrote:

 IIRC, the low gear for Pikes was because of the length of the climb, not 
 the steepness. I think that is probably a clue as to where your gearing 
 should be for a long ride. I rarely go higher than 32x20, and I use 32x22 
 pretty often. I have even used 32x24 once. The flat spots where one might 
 spin out in that low gear are few, so it's climbing up and coasting down 
 for most of the ride.

 jim m
 wc ca

 On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Spot on Jim! This is a niche of a niche of niche question! Grin. My fall 
 back answer is yours: either ride the Hunqapillar, or get a 1x9 Hillborne. 
 (I love the go-fast ride of the QB, so the Hillborne is my long term 
 solution, just haven't figured a way to get there, what with 5 Clementines 
 on the way. Sardonic grin.).

 My gearing is:
 High: 40 x 16 (68 inches)
 Low: 32 x 19 (46 inches)
 Ultra low (I've used it only on my attempt of Pikes Peak last Autumn): 32 
 x 22 (40 inches)

 With abandon,
 Patrick



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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-09 Thread Jim M.
On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 5:26:49 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 It's long for a climb that steep (steep for a climb that long?), then toss 
 in the altitude and headwinds and I made Glenn Cove and naught further. 
 Where do you get a 24t cog?

 The biggest track cog that I know of (and have) is 23t, made by Surly. You 
can find a 24t BMX freewheel any where. 

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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

2015-03-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
I'm not sure I would trust a BMX to those demands out in the boondocks 
miles from anyone.

With abandon,
Patrick

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