Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Sofie C]

DRW - thank you for the recommendation - those are beautiful, indeed. 
Contemplating.

On the Pelago - also checking out that option, thank you for recommending 
it! I should have also mentioned that I want to be able to support a Wald 
137...

Mike, thank you for sharing the Velo Orange - it's very handsome. Also 
contemplating...!


On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 12:48:59 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> This reminds me of the Santa Claus tracking kids do at Christmas time. 
> HoHoHo Merry Platypus!
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 2:17:00 PM UTC-5 Chris in NZ wrote:
>
>>
>> I’ve been keeping an eye on it (I’m a tracking obsessive). Previously at 
>> anchor and on the live map it was outside the port waiting. 
>>
>> It is now showing as “moored” and the live map shows it alongside.. 
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:03:24 AM UTC+13 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes! It has been at anchor for days now. I don’t know if that means they 
>>> are anchored in the bay awaiting their turn to be unloaded or if they are 
>>> docked and unloading now. But, while we wait, here’s a Unicorn Platypus, 
>>> which now lives on the raspberry Platy. I think it’s fitting since the 
>>> first shipment of Platypuses were ferried to American shores by a container 
>>> ship called The Unicorn!
>>>
>>> I hope everyone is filling out Tom’s spreadsheet - so fun!
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it 
would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to take 
a file or grinder to it though.

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:

> That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
> hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured) 
> wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow by a couple 
> of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality control issue I guess.
>
> Tom
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Bones]

Tom I noticed the same thing when trying to put the same kickstand on my 
wife's Platypus. I may have been able to squeeze it in but it would have 
rubbed the tire anyway so I didn't bother trying. FYI 48 Gravel Kings on 
Pacenti Brevets and they measure 50mm tubeless.

Bones

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 1:50:07 PM UTC-4 Tom Wyland wrote:

> That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
> hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured) 
> wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow by a couple 
> of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality control issue I guess.
>
> Tom
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Tom Wyland]

That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to hear 
an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured) 
wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow by a couple 
of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality control issue I guess.

Tom

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

I'm blushing - thanks!

I enjoy a good climb (or as good as a "climb" gets in N. Texas) and my 
hands were slipping little if I pulled back on the bars, hopefully this 
will help. 

On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 6:08:45 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> That's the best grip aesthetic I've seen. The only "tourist" bar grips 
> that agree with my left palm are Ergon GP1 grips, and those cut back (tho I 
> see Ergon offers an abbreviated model: https://tinyurl.com/y4fjxb5v) and 
> very precisely arranged, but I'd do this if my palm could stand it.
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 12:57 PM Philip Barrett  
> wrote:
>
>> It's raining & thunder today so I decided I needed a little more traction 
>> on the cork grips. I was going to do the chainstay too but ran out of hemp 
>> twine.
>>
>> [image: PXL_20210516_175123073.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

Even *I'm *surprised I didn't do it, Jason! 藍



On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 7:14:31 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Did anyone else lowkey expect Joe to post a photo of his secretly procured 
> and built Platy, or was it just me?  
>
> This bike sounds like a dream to ride and also a defining moment in 
> Rivendell's progression. To be that comfortable, yet quick - it's my 
> favourite of the Riv secret sauces.  
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 6:08 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> This confirmation bias appears to be widespread. I've been around Riv 
>> Stuff since the beginning and the amount of effusive "this is the bike of 
>> all time" praise for Platypus is quite astonishing. Y'all are *into *this 
>> one! 
>>
>> Joe "who loves his droptube custom and totally gets it" Bernard
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 3:48:49 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Joyce, I already have about 60 miles on it from last weekend. 
>>> Obviously there's some confirmation bias at play but (and apparently 
>>> BikesnobNYC agrees here) it really is an incredible ride. So smooth & 
>>> comfortable but also deceptively quick and handles beautifully.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 4:37:28 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>>
 Congratulations, Phillip!  What a beauty.  The brass bell looks so nice 
 with the grips. Let us know what you think of the ride when it stops 
 raining.

 On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 1:23:18 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Thanks! A meet n' greet would be lovely. The Green Spot is always a 
> good place as we can preceed or proceed with a trip around White Rock?
>
> A few finishing touches today; I gave up trying to make the Tektro 
> FL750 levers work with V-Brakes, I know they're not supposed to but they 
> look so cool don't they? Had lots of braking power but hard to modulate 
> adjusting was non-existent. I found a cheap set of levers on Amazon that 
> seemed to be well reviewed, they're actually pretty nic, especially for 
> the 
> $12.99 price tag.
>
> SKS P50 fenders went on, they're a bit of a PITA to fit to a level 
> worthy of a Platypus but the end result was worth the effort I think.
>
> Aside from that it was new Shellac'd cork grips & a quick adjustment 
> to the real wheel bearing. The only thing left on the punch list (for 
> now) 
> is to wire wheel the kick stand to silver, pure aesthetics of course! Now 
> it needs to stop raining.
>
> [image: PXL_20210512_200646276.jpg]
>
> [image: PXL_20210512_200754931.jpg]
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>> Philip, 
>> Nicely done!
>> A real beaut of a bike!
>>
>> I look forward to seeing it in person at some point.
>>
>> Hopefully you, the two Jim's, Luis and I can meet up soon and share a 
>> 5 Riv ride.
>>
>> That's all the Dallas/Ft Worth Riv owners I'm aware of.
>>
>> Perhaps there are others.
>> If so give us a shout out and join in.
>>
>> Paul in Dallas
>>
>> PS.
>>
>> Regarding group of Platypus.
>>
>> https://www.quora.com/What-do-you-call-a-group-of-platypus?share=1
>>
>> Quote from above link:
>>
>>
>> "Well, based on what I found, a group of platypus can either be 
>> called a paddle or a puddle.
>>
>> Just don’t call them a piddle or a poddle, because that just sounds 
>> silly."
>>
>> "
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jason Fuller]

Did anyone else lowkey expect Joe to post a photo of his secretly procured
and built Platy, or was it just me?

This bike sounds like a dream to ride and also a defining moment in
Rivendell's progression. To be that comfortable, yet quick - it's my
favourite of the Riv secret sauces.

On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 6:08 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> This confirmation bias appears to be widespread. I've been around Riv
> Stuff since the beginning and the amount of effusive "this is the bike of
> all time" praise for Platypus is quite astonishing. Y'all are *into *this
> one!
>
> Joe "who loves his droptube custom and totally gets it" Bernard
>
> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 3:48:49 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks Joyce, I already have about 60 miles on it from last weekend.
>> Obviously there's some confirmation bias at play but (and apparently
>> BikesnobNYC agrees here) it really is an incredible ride. So smooth &
>> comfortable but also deceptively quick and handles beautifully.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 4:37:28 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulations, Phillip!  What a beauty.  The brass bell looks so nice
>>> with the grips. Let us know what you think of the ride when it stops
>>> raining.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 1:23:18 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks! A meet n' greet would be lovely. The Green Spot is always a
 good place as we can preceed or proceed with a trip around White Rock?

 A few finishing touches today; I gave up trying to make the Tektro
 FL750 levers work with V-Brakes, I know they're not supposed to but they
 look so cool don't they? Had lots of braking power but hard to modulate
 adjusting was non-existent. I found a cheap set of levers on Amazon that
 seemed to be well reviewed, they're actually pretty nic, especially for the
 $12.99 price tag.

 SKS P50 fenders went on, they're a bit of a PITA to fit to a level
 worthy of a Platypus but the end result was worth the effort I think.

 Aside from that it was new Shellac'd cork grips & a quick adjustment to
 the real wheel bearing. The only thing left on the punch list (for now) is
 to wire wheel the kick stand to silver, pure aesthetics of course! Now it
 needs to stop raining.

 [image: PXL_20210512_200646276.jpg]

 [image: PXL_20210512_200754931.jpg]



 On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> Philip,
> Nicely done!
> A real beaut of a bike!
>
> I look forward to seeing it in person at some point.
>
> Hopefully you, the two Jim's, Luis and I can meet up soon and share a
> 5 Riv ride.
>
> That's all the Dallas/Ft Worth Riv owners I'm aware of.
>
> Perhaps there are others.
> If so give us a shout out and join in.
>
> Paul in Dallas
>
> PS.
>
> Regarding group of Platypus.
>
> https://www.quora.com/What-do-you-call-a-group-of-platypus?share=1
>
> Quote from above link:
>
>
> "Well, based on what I found, a group of platypus can either be called
> a paddle or a puddle.
>
> Just don’t call them a piddle or a poddle, because that just sounds
> silly."
>
> "
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[RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

This confirmation bias appears to be widespread. I've been around Riv Stuff 
since the beginning and the amount of effusive "this is the bike of all 
time" praise for Platypus is quite astonishing. Y'all are *into *this one! 

Joe "who loves his droptube custom and totally gets it" Bernard

On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 3:48:49 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks Joyce, I already have about 60 miles on it from last weekend. 
> Obviously there's some confirmation bias at play but (and apparently 
> BikesnobNYC agrees here) it really is an incredible ride. So smooth & 
> comfortable but also deceptively quick and handles beautifully.
>
> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 4:37:28 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>
>> Congratulations, Phillip!  What a beauty.  The brass bell looks so nice 
>> with the grips. Let us know what you think of the ride when it stops 
>> raining.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 1:23:18 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks! A meet n' greet would be lovely. The Green Spot is always a good 
>>> place as we can preceed or proceed with a trip around White Rock?
>>>
>>> A few finishing touches today; I gave up trying to make the Tektro FL750 
>>> levers work with V-Brakes, I know they're not supposed to but they look so 
>>> cool don't they? Had lots of braking power but hard to modulate adjusting 
>>> was non-existent. I found a cheap set of levers on Amazon that seemed to be 
>>> well reviewed, they're actually pretty nic, especially for the $12.99 price 
>>> tag.
>>>
>>> SKS P50 fenders went on, they're a bit of a PITA to fit to a level 
>>> worthy of a Platypus but the end result was worth the effort I think.
>>>
>>> Aside from that it was new Shellac'd cork grips & a quick adjustment to 
>>> the real wheel bearing. The only thing left on the punch list (for now) is 
>>> to wire wheel the kick stand to silver, pure aesthetics of course! Now it 
>>> needs to stop raining.
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20210512_200646276.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20210512_200754931.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>>
 Philip, 
 Nicely done!
 A real beaut of a bike!

 I look forward to seeing it in person at some point.

 Hopefully you, the two Jim's, Luis and I can meet up soon and share a 5 
 Riv ride.

 That's all the Dallas/Ft Worth Riv owners I'm aware of.

 Perhaps there are others.
 If so give us a shout out and join in.

 Paul in Dallas

 PS.

 Regarding group of Platypus.

 https://www.quora.com/What-do-you-call-a-group-of-platypus?share=1

 Quote from above link:


 "Well, based on what I found, a group of platypus can either be called a
  paddle or a puddle.

 Just don’t call them a piddle or a poddle, because that just sounds 
 silly."

 "

>>>

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[RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

Thanks Joyce, I already have about 60 miles on it from last weekend. 
Obviously there's some confirmation bias at play but (and apparently 
BikesnobNYC agrees here) it really is an incredible ride. So smooth & 
comfortable but also deceptively quick and handles beautifully.

On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 4:37:28 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:

> Congratulations, Phillip!  What a beauty.  The brass bell looks so nice 
> with the grips. Let us know what you think of the ride when it stops 
> raining.
>
> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 1:23:18 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks! A meet n' greet would be lovely. The Green Spot is always a good 
>> place as we can preceed or proceed with a trip around White Rock?
>>
>> A few finishing touches today; I gave up trying to make the Tektro FL750 
>> levers work with V-Brakes, I know they're not supposed to but they look so 
>> cool don't they? Had lots of braking power but hard to modulate adjusting 
>> was non-existent. I found a cheap set of levers on Amazon that seemed to be 
>> well reviewed, they're actually pretty nic, especially for the $12.99 price 
>> tag.
>>
>> SKS P50 fenders went on, they're a bit of a PITA to fit to a level worthy 
>> of a Platypus but the end result was worth the effort I think.
>>
>> Aside from that it was new Shellac'd cork grips & a quick adjustment to 
>> the real wheel bearing. The only thing left on the punch list (for now) is 
>> to wire wheel the kick stand to silver, pure aesthetics of course! Now it 
>> needs to stop raining.
>>
>> [image: PXL_20210512_200646276.jpg]
>>
>> [image: PXL_20210512_200754931.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>
>>> Philip, 
>>> Nicely done!
>>> A real beaut of a bike!
>>>
>>> I look forward to seeing it in person at some point.
>>>
>>> Hopefully you, the two Jim's, Luis and I can meet up soon and share a 5 
>>> Riv ride.
>>>
>>> That's all the Dallas/Ft Worth Riv owners I'm aware of.
>>>
>>> Perhaps there are others.
>>> If so give us a shout out and join in.
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas
>>>
>>> PS.
>>>
>>> Regarding group of Platypus.
>>>
>>> https://www.quora.com/What-do-you-call-a-group-of-platypus?share=1
>>>
>>> Quote from above link:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Well, based on what I found, a group of platypus can either be called a
>>>  paddle or a puddle.
>>>
>>> Just don’t call them a piddle or a poddle, because that just sounds 
>>> silly."
>>>
>>> "
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[JAS]

Congratulations, Phillip!  What a beauty.  The brass bell looks so nice 
with the grips. Let us know what you think of the ride when it stops 
raining.

On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 1:23:18 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks! A meet n' greet would be lovely. The Green Spot is always a good 
> place as we can preceed or proceed with a trip around White Rock?
>
> A few finishing touches today; I gave up trying to make the Tektro FL750 
> levers work with V-Brakes, I know they're not supposed to but they look so 
> cool don't they? Had lots of braking power but hard to modulate adjusting 
> was non-existent. I found a cheap set of levers on Amazon that seemed to be 
> well reviewed, they're actually pretty nic, especially for the $12.99 price 
> tag.
>
> SKS P50 fenders went on, they're a bit of a PITA to fit to a level worthy 
> of a Platypus but the end result was worth the effort I think.
>
> Aside from that it was new Shellac'd cork grips & a quick adjustment to 
> the real wheel bearing. The only thing left on the punch list (for now) is 
> to wire wheel the kick stand to silver, pure aesthetics of course! Now it 
> needs to stop raining.
>
> [image: PXL_20210512_200646276.jpg]
>
> [image: PXL_20210512_200754931.jpg]
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>> Philip, 
>> Nicely done!
>> A real beaut of a bike!
>>
>> I look forward to seeing it in person at some point.
>>
>> Hopefully you, the two Jim's, Luis and I can meet up soon and share a 5 
>> Riv ride.
>>
>> That's all the Dallas/Ft Worth Riv owners I'm aware of.
>>
>> Perhaps there are others.
>> If so give us a shout out and join in.
>>
>> Paul in Dallas
>>
>> PS.
>>
>> Regarding group of Platypus.
>>
>> https://www.quora.com/What-do-you-call-a-group-of-platypus?share=1
>>
>> Quote from above link:
>>
>>
>> "Well, based on what I found, a group of platypus can either be called a 
>> paddle or a puddle.
>>
>> Just don’t call them a piddle or a poddle, because that just sounds 
>> silly."
>>
>> "
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

Mermaid by the water! It looks great and so happy you’re loving it so far. 
Mark Roland nailed the color as a sea foam green and your pic shows how 
nice a color it is. 
On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 9:19:40 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Alrighty then...in between emails, Zoom calls, meetings & work related 
> stuff I managed to throw a bike together! It took a quick trip to my LBS as 
> the chainstays were longer than my chain which meant joining 2 together. 
> Aside from that I even managed to get the lights wired & working & headed 
> out for a quick 25 miles in the lovely (albeit windy) evening we were 
> blessed with here today.
>
> Is the Platypus really this incredibly good or does confirmation bias come 
> into play here? I'm completely in love with this bike so more on that 
> later, in the meantime enjoy a couple of snaps.
>
> [image: PXL_20210508_000905847.jpg]
> [image: PXL_20210508_001009251.jpg]
>
> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 5:46:21 PM UTC-5 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> I received my first email from RIV about my Platy.  And so it begins.
>>
>> Roberta, I'm interested in the handlebar choice too.  Tell me more.
>>
>> Philip, I can't wait to see it..
>>
>> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 1:39:35 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone lucky enough to already have his/her 55 Platy, could you measure 
>>> the effective top tube and post that here?   If it matters, I run the seat 
>>> height around 72cm.
>>>
>>> I sent Analog Cycles Losco and Albatross bars today (both already in my 
>>> bin) and they will decide which will work best for me with the frame, but 
>>> I'm curious while I wait. 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 10:06:35 AM UTC-4 Melanie wrote:
>>>
 Roberta - I saw that photo on IG and just knew it had to be yours!

 On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 6:02:29 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Philip,  looking forward to seeing your full build and hearing your 
> impressions. How could you have not openened the box immediately???  
>
> Here’s my partial build. I’ll be getting it in a few weeks. 
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

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I received my first email from RIV about my Platy.  And so it begins.

Roberta, I'm interested in the handlebar choice too.  Tell me more.

Philip, I can't wait to see it..

On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 1:39:35 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Anyone lucky enough to already have his/her 55 Platy, could you measure 
> the effective top tube and post that here?   If it matters, I run the seat 
> height around 72cm.
>
> I sent Analog Cycles Losco and Albatross bars today (both already in my 
> bin) and they will decide which will work best for me with the frame, but 
> I'm curious while I wait. 
>
> Thanks,
> Roberta
>
> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 10:06:35 AM UTC-4 Melanie wrote:
>
>> Roberta - I saw that photo on IG and just knew it had to be yours!
>>
>> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 6:02:29 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Philip,  looking forward to seeing your full build and hearing your 
>>> impressions. How could you have not openened the box immediately???  
>>>
>>> Here’s my partial build. I’ll be getting it in a few weeks. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

Anyone lucky enough to already have his/her 55 Platy, could you measure the 
effective top tube and post that here?   If it matters, I run the seat 
height around 72cm.

I sent Analog Cycles Losco and Albatross bars today (both already in my 
bin) and they will decide which will work best for me with the frame, but 
I'm curious while I wait. 

Thanks,
Roberta

On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 10:06:35 AM UTC-4 Melanie wrote:

> Roberta - I saw that photo on IG and just knew it had to be yours!
>
> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 6:02:29 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Philip,  looking forward to seeing your full build and hearing your 
>> impressions. How could you have not openened the box immediately???  
>>
>> Here’s my partial build. I’ll be getting it in a few weeks. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Melanie]

Roberta - I saw that photo on IG and just knew it had to be yours!

On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 6:02:29 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Philip,  looking forward to seeing your full build and hearing your 
> impressions. How could you have not openened the box immediately???  
>
> Here’s my partial build. I’ll be getting it in a few weeks. 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

Philip,  looking forward to seeing your full build and hearing your 
impressions. How could you have not openened the box immediately???  

Here’s my partial build. I’ll be getting it in a few weeks. 




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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Ok, Philip that was an hour ago, so by now you’ve built it and surely must be 
posing it for the photos you’re about to send us, yes? You’ll ride it to work 
tomorrow, certainly.

Roberta and I were talking and she mentioned that the Bike Snob has a new 
mystery bike showing up on Monday. We think it’s a Platypus. 

My own Platy is in the shop getting a new Edelux light (mine was faulty) and I 
won’t have it until Sunday. I’ll be delighted to look at your bikes here, if 
you would kindly grace us with your photos. ♥️

Sent from my iPad

> On May 6, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
> 
> Well hello there, nice to meet you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 6:48:19 AM UTC-5 Philip Barrett wrote:
>> UPS has updated the delivery to today, unless I've forgotten a part I should 
>> be out & about for the weekend.
>> 
>> Tha mi cho toilichte!
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 9:55:39 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> Philip - YAY Oh maybe you will get it in time for the weekend!
>>> 
>>> I’m anxious to hear of the Platys that have surely been landing on 
>>> doorsteps around America. Anyone else want to delight us with your words 
>>> and photos?
>>> 
>>> So happy for you!
>>> Leah
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On May 3, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
> 
 Got a wee note from UPS today! 
>>> 
 
 <73f002cade6cbaaa2e2be806417dee8e.png>
 
 
>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 1:53:18 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>> 
>> I like looping it around the drive side of the seatpost in this 
>> situation - kind of enlarges the radius of the bend while keeping it 
>> close to the seatpost and frame. Use the longest hanger you can find - 
>> Surly makes a long one.
>> 
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:38:50 PM UTC-4 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>> Nathan,
>>> I'm going with canti brakes. I should be running the housing/cables 
>>> tonight or tomorrow.  I have a set of Velo Orange Zeste cantis that 
>>> I've been holding on to. The issue with the rear setup is to have the 
>>> housing loop up so it touches the seatpost, I think.  Otherwise you'll 
>>> have the housing contacting the seatpost lug. I'm not sure how it will 
>>> look, but that's how I saw one another person set it up (Blue Lug?).  I 
>>> don't like how Crust did it as it will rub the paint off of the lug 
>>> (see their $3800 Platy).  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'll share photos when I get them set up.
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 6:44 PM Nathan F  wrote:
 It's been nice seeing everyone get their frames, both here and on 
 Instagram. Lots of great builds so far and plenty of inspiration for 
 how I'll route the rear cantilever on mine. Seems I'm not the only one 
 who wanted to use cantis!
 
 Yesterday the front rack came in for mine... now all that's left are 
 the rims and frameset! Pending any further delays, I should be riding 
 my Platypus in about 5 weeks or so.
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

UPS has updated the delivery to today, unless I've forgotten a part I 
should be out & about for the weekend.

Tha mi cho toilichte!

On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 9:55:39 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Philip - YAY Oh maybe you will get it in time for the weekend!
>
> I’m anxious to hear of the Platys that have surely been landing on 
> doorsteps around America. Anyone else want to delight us with your words 
> and photos?
>
> So happy for you!
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 3, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
>
> Got a wee note from UPS today! 
>
>
> <73f002cade6cbaaa2e2be806417dee8e.png>
>
>
> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 1:53:18 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
>>
>> I like looping it around the drive side of the seatpost in this situation 
>> - kind of enlarges the radius of the bend while keeping it close to the 
>> seatpost and frame. Use the longest hanger you can find - Surly makes a 
>> long one.
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:38:50 PM UTC-4 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>>> Nathan,
>>> I'm going with canti brakes. I should be running the housing/cables 
>>> tonight or tomorrow.  I have a set of Velo Orange Zeste cantis that I've 
>>> been holding on to. The issue with the rear setup is to have the housing 
>>> loop up so it touches the seatpost, I think.  Otherwise you'll have the 
>>> housing contacting the seatpost lug. I'm not sure how it will look, but 
>>> that's how I saw one another person set it up (Blue Lug?).  I don't like 
>>> how Crust did it as it will rub the paint off of the lug (see their $3800 
>>> Platy).  
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> I'll share photos when I get them set up.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 6:44 PM Nathan F  wrote:
>>>
 It's been nice seeing everyone get their frames, both here and on 
 Instagram. Lots of great builds so far and plenty of inspiration for how 
 I'll route the rear cantilever on mine. Seems I'm not the only one who 
 wanted to use cantis!

 Yesterday the front rack came in for mine... now all that's left are 
 the rims and frameset! Pending any further delays, I should be riding my 
 Platypus in about 5 weeks or so.


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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Philip - YAY Oh maybe you will get it in time for the weekend!

I’m anxious to hear of the Platys that have surely been landing on doorsteps 
around America. Anyone else want to delight us with your words and photos?

So happy for you!
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On May 3, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
> 
> Got a wee note from UPS today! 
> 
> <73f002cade6cbaaa2e2be806417dee8e.png>
> 
> 
>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 1:53:18 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>> 
>> I like looping it around the drive side of the seatpost in this situation - 
>> kind of enlarges the radius of the bend while keeping it close to the 
>> seatpost and frame. Use the longest hanger you can find - Surly makes a long 
>> one.
>> 
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:38:50 PM UTC-4 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>> Nathan,
>>> I'm going with canti brakes. I should be running the housing/cables tonight 
>>> or tomorrow.  I have a set of Velo Orange Zeste cantis that I've been 
>>> holding on to. The issue with the rear setup is to have the housing loop up 
>>> so it touches the seatpost, I think.  Otherwise you'll have the housing 
>>> contacting the seatpost lug. I'm not sure how it will look, but that's how 
>>> I saw one another person set it up (Blue Lug?).  I don't like how Crust did 
>>> it as it will rub the paint off of the lug (see their $3800 Platy).  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'll share photos when I get them set up.
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 6:44 PM Nathan F  wrote:
 It's been nice seeing everyone get their frames, both here and on 
 Instagram. Lots of great builds so far and plenty of inspiration for how 
 I'll route the rear cantilever on mine. Seems I'm not the only one who 
 wanted to use cantis!
 
 Yesterday the front rack came in for mine... now all that's left are the 
 rims and frameset! Pending any further delays, I should be riding my 
 Platypus in about 5 weeks or so.
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

Got a wee note from UPS today! 

[image: 73f002cade6cbaaa2e2be806417dee8e.png]

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 1:53:18 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

>
> I like looping it around the drive side of the seatpost in this situation 
> - kind of enlarges the radius of the bend while keeping it close to the 
> seatpost and frame. Use the longest hanger you can find - Surly makes a 
> long one.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:38:50 PM UTC-4 Tom Wyland wrote:
>
>> Nathan,
>> I'm going with canti brakes. I should be running the housing/cables 
>> tonight or tomorrow.  I have a set of Velo Orange Zeste cantis that I've 
>> been holding on to. The issue with the rear setup is to have the housing 
>> loop up so it touches the seatpost, I think.  Otherwise you'll have the 
>> housing contacting the seatpost lug. I'm not sure how it will look, but 
>> that's how I saw one another person set it up (Blue Lug?).  I don't like 
>> how Crust did it as it will rub the paint off of the lug (see their $3800 
>> Platy).  
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> I'll share photos when I get them set up.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 6:44 PM Nathan F  wrote:
>>
>>> It's been nice seeing everyone get their frames, both here and on 
>>> Instagram. Lots of great builds so far and plenty of inspiration for how 
>>> I'll route the rear cantilever on mine. Seems I'm not the only one who 
>>> wanted to use cantis!
>>>
>>> Yesterday the front rack came in for mine... now all that's left are the 
>>> rims and frameset! Pending any further delays, I should be riding my 
>>> Platypus in about 5 weeks or so.
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[lconley]

I like looping it around the drive side of the seatpost in this situation - 
kind of enlarges the radius of the bend while keeping it close to the 
seatpost and frame. Use the longest hanger you can find - Surly makes a 
long one.

Laing
Delray Beach FL
On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:38:50 PM UTC-4 Tom Wyland wrote:

> Nathan,
> I'm going with canti brakes. I should be running the housing/cables 
> tonight or tomorrow.  I have a set of Velo Orange Zeste cantis that I've 
> been holding on to. The issue with the rear setup is to have the housing 
> loop up so it touches the seatpost, I think.  Otherwise you'll have the 
> housing contacting the seatpost lug. I'm not sure how it will look, but 
> that's how I saw one another person set it up (Blue Lug?).  I don't like 
> how Crust did it as it will rub the paint off of the lug (see their $3800 
> Platy).  
> [image: image.png]
>
> I'll share photos when I get them set up.
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 6:44 PM Nathan F  wrote:
>
>> It's been nice seeing everyone get their frames, both here and on 
>> Instagram. Lots of great builds so far and plenty of inspiration for how 
>> I'll route the rear cantilever on mine. Seems I'm not the only one who 
>> wanted to use cantis!
>>
>> Yesterday the front rack came in for mine... now all that's left are the 
>> rims and frameset! Pending any further delays, I should be riding my 
>> Platypus in about 5 weeks or so.
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

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Patrick, You build up a very special bike.  I love all of it.  Is that a 
very large bike bottle cage that fits a liter bottle?
Kate

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 7:18:11 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Yes *Ma'am!*
>
> Or, if you are British: "Righty-ho, Mum!"
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 1:30 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
>> Ok, Bones, here’s what we’re gonna do. You’re gonna clean that bathroom 
>> until it sparkles as bright as a lime olive Platy and then place that bike 
>> in the center of the bathroom and see what kind of reaction she gives you.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Patrick Moore]

Yes *Ma'am!*

Or, if you are British: "Righty-ho, Mum!"

On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 1:30 PM Leah Peterson 
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> Ok, Bones, here’s what we’re gonna do. You’re gonna clean that bathroom
> until it sparkles as bright as a lime olive Platy and then place that bike
> in the center of the bathroom and see what kind of reaction she gives you.
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Ok, Bones, here’s what we’re gonna do. You’re gonna clean that bathroom until 
it sparkles as bright as a lime olive Platy and then place that bike in the 
center of the bathroom and see what kind of reaction she gives you.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2021, at 7:35 AM, Bones  wrote:
> 
> 
> Leah, my wife is a low reactor. She gets more excited about me cleaning the 
> bathroom. That doesn't mean she doesn't love it though!
> 
> Roberta, yes a total surprise. Here's another pic with the rack and front 
> light. Fenders are on the way.
> 
> The color is amazing. It's a spot on match for the bricks on the back of my 
> house that are slowly coming to life. A note too about rear brake cable 
> routing: there is a loop brazed on to the seat tube on the non-drive side 
> above the mid tube. It helps keep the housing nice and clean looking.
> 
> Bones
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 8:28:58 AM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>> The Eighth Hour Bicycle Boutique in Brooklyn. It's brand new, just opened on 
>> the stoner new year. It's run by the swell fella in the photo. Check them 
>> out- @eighthhourstudio 
>> -Kai
>> 
>> 
>>> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 2:15:47 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> Wow, Kai, where was this? How exciting!
>>> 
>>> Yes, Bones, great bike and tell us how your wife reacted when you surprised 
>>> her with it.
>>> 
>>> Tom - this is your first Rivendell, yes? How soon can you build it and tell 
>>> us all about it?
>>> 
>>> I love this thread. It makes me happy every single day.
>>> Leah
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On Apr 30, 2021, at 11:12 AM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>  wrote:
> 
 
>>> 
 
 
 Not my bike, not his bike, but a fine bike.
 and check out that Cherubim out back!! 
 If this is your bike, I made him show me and pose with it...
 -Kai
>> On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 6:32:59 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> It’s going to be your turn! It’s finally 2021 and January is the month 
>> of the mixte, or so the Riv site says. I’m really excited to see 
>> everyone’s new bikes and how each one is set up. Did anyone get a 
>> Platypus voucher for a Christmas present? Or maybe no excuse was 
>> necessary - you’re just getting it. What do you have in mind for your 
>> new bike? Commuter? Adventure bike? Rambler? Errands? 
>> 
>> You’re in for such a treat. The bike is light, fun, gorgeous, and very 
>> capable. I can’t wait to hear your news and see your photos. If you’re 
>> on Instagram, Rivendell has an official hashtag for us to use: 
>> #rbwplatypus. 
>> 
>> Happy New Year!
>> Leah
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

The Eighth Hour Bicycle Boutique in Brooklyn. It's brand new, just opened 
on the stoner new year. It's run by the swell fella in the photo. Check 
them out- @eighthhourstudio 
-Kai


On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 2:15:47 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Wow, Kai, where was this? How exciting!
>
> Yes, Bones, great bike and tell us how your wife reacted when you 
> surprised her with it.
>
> Tom - this is your first Rivendell, yes? How soon can you build it and 
> tell us all about it?
>
> I love this thread. It makes me happy every single day.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 30, 2021, at 11:12 AM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> 
>
> Not my bike, not his bike, but a fine bike.
> and check out that Cherubim out back!! 
> If this is your bike, I made him show me and pose with it...
> -Kai
> On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 6:32:59 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 4AFE365B-C68C-46F4-A214-CAF3AF3A5949.jpeg]It’s going to be your 
>> turn! It’s finally 2021 and January is the month of the mixte, or so the 
>> Riv site says. I’m really excited to see everyone’s new bikes and how each 
>> one is set up. Did anyone get a Platypus voucher for a Christmas present? 
>> Or maybe no excuse was necessary - you’re just getting it. What do you have 
>> in mind for your new bike? Commuter? Adventure bike? Rambler? Errands? 
>>
>> You’re in for such a treat. The bike is light, fun, gorgeous, and very 
>> capable. I can’t wait to hear your news and see your photos. If you’re on 
>> Instagram, Rivendell has an official hashtag for us to use: #rbwplatypus. 
>>
>> Happy New Year!
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

Lovely bike builds and information. 

I ordered all black tires but I really like the tan sidewall look that 
seems to be the preference. It’s a lighter look   Hopefully my fenders will 
help and I think they will because Leah’s doesn’t look “heavy.”  

Nathan-I’ll be getting mine in 5 weeks also. 

Bones- a total surprise for wife? Pics?  

Roberta 
On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 7:37:05 PM UTC-4 Tom Wyland wrote:

> Leah,
>
> Yes, first Riv. I’ve been riding my bikes in “The Riv Way” for many years. 
> I was calling to order a Joe A in 2019 when Will talked me into the (then 
> unnamed) Platy. I’ll post photos when it’s built!
>
> Not to others - you’ll need some headset spacers to make the stock fork 
> work (10mm?) as supplied. That is the only part I’m missing so far!
>
> Tom 

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Tom]

Leah,

Yes, first Riv.  I’ve been riding my bikes in “The Riv Way” for many years. I 
was calling to order a Joe A in 2019 when Will talked me into the (then 
unnamed) Platy. I’ll post photos when it’s built!

Not to others - you’ll need some headset spacers to make the stock fork work 
(10mm?) as supplied. That is the only part I’m missing so far!

Tom 

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

5 weeks?! We can’t wait that long. We’re going to need to pull some strings.

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 30, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Nathan F  wrote:
> 
> It's been nice seeing everyone get their frames, both here and on Instagram. 
> Lots of great builds so far and plenty of inspiration for how I'll route the 
> rear cantilever on mine. Seems I'm not the only one who wanted to use cantis!
> 
> Yesterday the front rack came in for mine... now all that's left are the rims 
> and frameset! Pending any further delays, I should be riding my Platypus in 
> about 5 weeks or so.
> 
>> On Friday, 30 April 2021 at 11:15:47 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>> Wow, Kai, where was this? How exciting!
>> 
>> Yes, Bones, great bike and tell us how your wife reacted when you surprised 
>> her with it.
>> 
>> Tom - this is your first Rivendell, yes? How soon can you build it and tell 
>> us all about it?
>> 
>> I love this thread. It makes me happy every single day.
>> Leah
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On Apr 30, 2021, at 11:12 AM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
 wrote:
 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not my bike, not his bike, but a fine bike.
>>> and check out that Cherubim out back!! 
>>> If this is your bike, I made him show me and pose with it...
>>> -Kai
> On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 6:32:59 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
> It’s going to be your turn! It’s finally 2021 and January is the month of 
> the mixte, or so the Riv site says. I’m really excited to see everyone’s 
> new bikes and how each one is set up. Did anyone get a Platypus voucher 
> for a Christmas present? Or maybe no excuse was necessary - you’re just 
> getting it. What do you have in mind for your new bike? Commuter? 
> Adventure bike? Rambler? Errands? 
> 
> You’re in for such a treat. The bike is light, fun, gorgeous, and very 
> capable. I can’t wait to hear your news and see your photos. If you’re on 
> Instagram, Rivendell has an official hashtag for us to use: #rbwplatypus. 
> 
> Happy New Year!
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Nathan F]

It's been nice seeing everyone get their frames, both here and on 
Instagram. Lots of great builds so far and plenty of inspiration for how 
I'll route the rear cantilever on mine. Seems I'm not the only one who 
wanted to use cantis!

Yesterday the front rack came in for mine... now all that's left are the 
rims and frameset! Pending any further delays, I should be riding my 
Platypus in about 5 weeks or so.

On Friday, 30 April 2021 at 11:15:47 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Wow, Kai, where was this? How exciting!
>
> Yes, Bones, great bike and tell us how your wife reacted when you 
> surprised her with it.
>
> Tom - this is your first Rivendell, yes? How soon can you build it and 
> tell us all about it?
>
> I love this thread. It makes me happy every single day.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 30, 2021, at 11:12 AM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> 
>
> Not my bike, not his bike, but a fine bike.
> and check out that Cherubim out back!! 
> If this is your bike, I made him show me and pose with it...
> -Kai
> On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 6:32:59 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 4AFE365B-C68C-46F4-A214-CAF3AF3A5949.jpeg]It’s going to be your 
>> turn! It’s finally 2021 and January is the month of the mixte, or so the 
>> Riv site says. I’m really excited to see everyone’s new bikes and how each 
>> one is set up. Did anyone get a Platypus voucher for a Christmas present? 
>> Or maybe no excuse was necessary - you’re just getting it. What do you have 
>> in mind for your new bike? Commuter? Adventure bike? Rambler? Errands? 
>>
>> You’re in for such a treat. The bike is light, fun, gorgeous, and very 
>> capable. I can’t wait to hear your news and see your photos. If you’re on 
>> Instagram, Rivendell has an official hashtag for us to use: #rbwplatypus. 
>>
>> Happy New Year!
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Wow, Kai, where was this? How exciting!

Yes, Bones, great bike and tell us how your wife reacted when you surprised her 
with it.

Tom - this is your first Rivendell, yes? How soon can you build it and tell us 
all about it?

I love this thread. It makes me happy every single day.
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 30, 2021, at 11:12 AM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Not my bike, not his bike, but a fine bike.
> and check out that Cherubim out back!! 
> If this is your bike, I made him show me and pose with it...
> -Kai
>> On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 6:32:59 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> It’s going to be your turn! It’s finally 2021 and January is the month of 
>> the mixte, or so the Riv site says. I’m really excited to see everyone’s new 
>> bikes and how each one is set up. Did anyone get a Platypus voucher for a 
>> Christmas present? Or maybe no excuse was necessary - you’re just getting 
>> it. What do you have in mind for your new bike? Commuter? Adventure bike? 
>> Rambler? Errands? 
>> 
>> You’re in for such a treat. The bike is light, fun, gorgeous, and very 
>> capable. I can’t wait to hear your news and see your photos. If you’re on 
>> Instagram, Rivendell has an official hashtag for us to use: #rbwplatypus. 
>> 
>> Happy New Year!
>> Leah
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Peter Adler]

*Hey!* That's triggering language...

Peter "59 next week; I better finish up that 50s French racer with the 
suicide shifter" Adler
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Jonathan,
>
> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too.
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Peter Adler]

Has anyone actually tried these with non-PDW fenders?

I've had a couple of sets of fancy-pants Honjos for years, which I never 
completely installed on my old Raleigh International, because the Raleigh's 
chainstay bridge wasn't drilled for a mount point and I never got around to 
kludging a satisfactory substitute together. Now I have a Trek 720, which 
has both a drilled chainstay bridge and a seatstay bridge with a fender 
mount hole - but the PDW Safety Tabs (the QRs for the rod stays for metal 
fenders) are made for the 6mm stays of PDW's metal fenders, while the Honjo 
standard stays are 5mm, with a 4mm lightweight option. AFAIK, most stays 
for metal fenders are also 5mm, e.g. Velo Orange, Gilles Berthoud.

https://ridepdw.com/collections/fenders/products/full-metal-fenders-safety-tabs

Blue Heron Bicycles in Westbrae (Berkeley) is a PDW dealer, and the safety 
tabs are only $9 list; I suppose I could experiment, as long as it's an 
impulse purchase. Alternately, you could replace the Honjo/VO/GB stays with 
PDW's stays, but bigger stays/eyelets (which PDW does not sell; they use a 
different/cheaper mounting system) would take away much of the Honjo/VO 
textured elegance.

I'm concerned that if you use an undersized stay in the QR, it either won't 
grip the stay enough to stay in place to begin with, or it'll rattle. If 
you build up the rail to fill the gap, will it still release from the QR 
when necessary?

Peter "comfort? safety? style? hmmm" Adler
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:12:25 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I think Riv’s objection to metal is in regards to safety. No metal fender 
> comes with breakaway tabs. The SKS have breakaway tabs for the front wheel, 
> BUT Portland Design Works makes breakaways for metal fenders, which answers 
> the safety question. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Heather Hayes]

Thank you so much for the recommendation, Joe! I'm waiting to hear back 
from Riv to see if this was a checkout error, or if I truly got the wrong 
color. If that's the case, I'd love to reach out to them for a painting 
quote! :) 

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 4:11:01 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Heather, if you really want a repaint you can have Riv send the frame over 
> to Rick Stefani at D + D Painting. It won't be cheap but it's not Joe Bell 
> money, either, and Rick is very good. Riv will give him the decals. 
>
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:51:37 PM UTC-7 Heather Hayes wrote:
>
>> Sounds like the three of us (at least) may have missed the unicorn boat 
>> on the Mermaid color by a fraction of a nanosecond! I'm grateful it 
>> auto-purchased the Lime-Olive so that I didn't miss out completely. But 
>> this means I might be "forced" to repaint it the color I wanted all 
>> along... that gorgeous Sam Hillborne orange/gold! ;) 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:30:34 PM UTC-4 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> For what it’s worth, I used Amtrak last fall with a 69” wheelbase bike. 
>>> The bike next to mine was larger and had a milk crate strapped to a front 
>>> rack. They paid zero attention to the size. Just hooked them up and away we 
>>> went. 
>>>
>>> -Jacob
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 4:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to 
>>> figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions for 
>>> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info on 
>>> the Riv site. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>>>
 The bike looks good in its element.

 On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>
> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles 
> and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at 
> that 
> luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>
> Two more days, my friends...
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
> wrote:
>
> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb 
> bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a 
> stop, 
> be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will enjoy 
> those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. It's a 
> matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, you can 
> save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real deal right 
> there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're spending 
> $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices will 
> deliver 
> a much more enjoyable bike.
>
>
> 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
> remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
> gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity 
> you 
> really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
> there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
> back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to 
>> make the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you 
>> score? 
>>
>> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
>> light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I 
>> like 
>> to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really resourceful in 
>> getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out here 
>> because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t 
>> matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when 
>> you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.” 
>>
>> All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a 
>> Platy - be sure to let us know.
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>>
>> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my 
>> dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My 
>> dad was totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go 
>> through 
>> that effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that 
>> if 
>> we are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident 
>> will fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

Heather, if you really want a repaint you can have Riv send the frame over 
to Rick Stefani at D + D Painting. It won't be cheap but it's not Joe Bell 
money, either, and Rick is very good. Riv will give him the decals. 


On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:51:37 PM UTC-7 Heather Hayes wrote:

> Sounds like the three of us (at least) may have missed the unicorn boat on 
> the Mermaid color by a fraction of a nanosecond! I'm grateful it 
> auto-purchased the Lime-Olive so that I didn't miss out completely. But 
> this means I might be "forced" to repaint it the color I wanted all 
> along... that gorgeous Sam Hillborne orange/gold! ;) 
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:30:34 PM UTC-4 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> For what it’s worth, I used Amtrak last fall with a 69” wheelbase bike. 
>> The bike next to mine was larger and had a milk crate strapped to a front 
>> rack. They paid zero attention to the size. Just hooked them up and away we 
>> went. 
>>
>> -Jacob
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 4:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to figure 
>> out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions for 
>> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info on 
>> the Riv site. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>>
>>> The bike looks good in its element.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Amen, Philip. And thanks! 

 The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles 
 and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at that 
 luscious silhouette. Coming soon.

 Two more days, my friends...



 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
 wrote:

 Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb 
 bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a 
 stop, 
 be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will enjoy 
 those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. It's a 
 matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, you can 
 save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real deal right 
 there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're spending 
 $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices will deliver 
 a much more enjoyable bike.


 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
 remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
 gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity 
 you 
 really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
 there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
 back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).



 On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to make 
> the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you score? 
>
> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
> light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I like 
> to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really resourceful in 
> getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out here 
> because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t 
> matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when 
> you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.” 
>
> All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a 
> Platy - be sure to let us know.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>
> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my 
> dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My 
> dad was totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go through 
> that effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that 
> if 
> we are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident 
> will fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up 
> from his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the 
> Clem 
> L -- still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so 
> excited to see.
>
>
> The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm 
> Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that they 
> had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I like both but having had many blue bikes I think the lime olive is really 
nice and less usual.  Probably what I would have wanted if..

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:51:37 PM UTC-4 Heather Hayes wrote:

> Sounds like the three of us (at least) may have missed the unicorn boat on 
> the Mermaid color by a fraction of a nanosecond! I'm grateful it 
> auto-purchased the Lime-Olive so that I didn't miss out completely. But 
> this means I might be "forced" to repaint it the color I wanted all 
> along... that gorgeous Sam Hillborne orange/gold! ;) 
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:30:34 PM UTC-4 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> For what it’s worth, I used Amtrak last fall with a 69” wheelbase bike. 
>> The bike next to mine was larger and had a milk crate strapped to a front 
>> rack. They paid zero attention to the size. Just hooked them up and away we 
>> went. 
>>
>> -Jacob
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 4:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to figure 
>> out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions for 
>> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info on 
>> the Riv site. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>>
>>> The bike looks good in its element.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Amen, Philip. And thanks! 

 The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles 
 and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at that 
 luscious silhouette. Coming soon.

 Two more days, my friends...



 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
 wrote:

 Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb 
 bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a 
 stop, 
 be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will enjoy 
 those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. It's a 
 matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, you can 
 save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real deal right 
 there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're spending 
 $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices will deliver 
 a much more enjoyable bike.


 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
 remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
 gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity 
 you 
 really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
 there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
 back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).



 On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to make 
> the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you score? 
>
> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
> light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I like 
> to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really resourceful in 
> getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out here 
> because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t 
> matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when 
> you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.” 
>
> All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a 
> Platy - be sure to let us know.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>
> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my 
> dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My 
> dad was totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go through 
> that effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that 
> if 
> we are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident 
> will fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up 
> from his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the 
> Clem 
> L -- still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so 
> excited to see.
>
>
> The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm 
> Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that they 
> had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the coming 
> week. 
>
> I got a referral bonus at work and depending on 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Heather Hayes]

Sounds like the three of us (at least) may have missed the unicorn boat on 
the Mermaid color by a fraction of a nanosecond! I'm grateful it 
auto-purchased the Lime-Olive so that I didn't miss out completely. But 
this means I might be "forced" to repaint it the color I wanted all 
along... that gorgeous Sam Hillborne orange/gold! ;) 

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:30:34 PM UTC-4 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> For what it’s worth, I used Amtrak last fall with a 69” wheelbase bike. 
> The bike next to mine was larger and had a milk crate strapped to a front 
> rack. They paid zero attention to the size. Just hooked them up and away we 
> went. 
>
> -Jacob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 31, 2021, at 4:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to figure 
> out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions for 
> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info on 
> the Riv site. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>
>> The bike looks good in its element.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>>
>>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles 
>>> and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at that 
>>> luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>>>
>>> Two more days, my friends...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb 
>>> bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a stop, 
>>> be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will enjoy 
>>> those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. It's a 
>>> matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, you can 
>>> save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real deal right 
>>> there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're spending 
>>> $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices will deliver 
>>> a much more enjoyable bike.
>>>
>>>
>>> 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
>>> remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
>>> gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity you 
>>> really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
>>> there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
>>> back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to make 
 the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you score? 

 Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
 light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I like 
 to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really resourceful in 
 getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out here 
 because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t 
 matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when 
 you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.” 

 All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a 
 Platy - be sure to let us know.
 Leah

 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:

 Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my 
 dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My 
 dad was totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go through 
 that effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that if 
 we are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident 
 will fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up 
 from his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the 
 Clem 
 L -- still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so 
 excited to see.


 The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm 
 Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that they 
 had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the coming 
 week. 

 I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, Elise, 
 maybe I will get a platypus of my own. It will hold me over until my 
 custom 
 frame being built by a friend in SLC, UT is done this summer. 

 Thank you all! I cannot wait to see wild Platypii here and in the wild. 

 Jonathan P.
 Seattle, WA

 On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[joshuamarx]

Heather and David-
I had a similar issue. Had a 50 mermaid in the cart, then it was sold out 
when I tried to check out, and I had to hustle to check out with a 50 
olive. I'm sure the olive will look great, and I am equally sure my wife 
will agree?
Josh

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:15:41 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing.  I wanted the MERMAID but 
> it auto purchased the Lime/Olive.  We'll see what happens.  I clicked as 
> fast as I could on the dot!
>
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4 Heather Hayes wrote:
>
>> I clicked purchase on the 50cm in Mermaid, but my receipt says 
>> Lime-Olive. :/ If anyone had the opposite problem, please let me know if 
>> you'd like to trade! :) 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I could do a 
>>> 50 or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", ride a seat at 72cm.
>>>
>>> You might be in luck.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:03:49 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>>
 oh my... 50-cm Platypus Mermaid is sold out before 3:02pm (EDT). I 
 missed out... 

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:43:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Your wish appears to have been granted. The Platypus page now says 
> $1650. 
>
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:12:03 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April Fool's 
>> joke? Wishful thinking?
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the 
>>> reasoning in the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has 
>>> said since 3-4 weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than 
>>> other 
>>> models, hence the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an 
>>> extra $100 to make. 
>>>
>>> From Platy Page:
>>>
>>> "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us 
>>> about $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include 
>>> a 
>>> wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an 
>>> award 
>>> winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers."
>>>
>>> But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import 
>>> taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the 
>>> price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in 
>>> particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! 
>>>
>>> Jonathan P.
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every 
 chance I get! Good luck, all!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the 
 east coast and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 



 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Note posted on Riv’s website last night:
>
> NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked 
> about it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed 
> Mar 
> 31 8:40 p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not 
> able to 
> sell them that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us 
> considerably more than a Sam, Homer, etc...
>
> The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your 
> side, and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:
>
>> Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter 
>> (depending on tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
>> Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike
>>
>> David Lipsky 
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, 
>> right?) of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 
>> would be 
>> but Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying 
>> to figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike 
>> dimensions 
>> for roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jacob Byard]

For what it’s worth, I used Amtrak last fall with a 69” wheelbase bike. The 
bike next to mine was larger and had a milk crate strapped to a front rack. 
They paid zero attention to the size. Just hooked them up and away we went. 

-Jacob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2021, at 4:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to figure out 
> if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions for roll-on 
> service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info on the Riv site. 
> 
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>> The bike looks good in its element.
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>> 
>>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles and 
>>> this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at that 
>>> luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>>> 
>>> Two more days, my friends...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
> 
 Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb 
 bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a 
 stop, be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will 
 enjoy those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. 
 It's a matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, 
 you can save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real deal 
 right there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're 
 spending $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices 
 will deliver a much more enjoyable bike.
>>> 
 
 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
 remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
 gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity 
 you really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
 there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
 back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).
 
 
 
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to make 
> the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you score? 
> 
> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
> light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I like 
> to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really resourceful in 
> getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out here 
> because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t 
> matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when 
> you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.” 
> 
> All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a Platy 
> - be sure to let us know.
> Leah
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>>> 
>> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my 
>> dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My 
>> dad was totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go 
>> through that effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad 
>> decided that if we are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that 
>> he is confident will fit until his days on earth are through. This will 
>> be a big step up from his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous 
>> mermaid platy to the Clem L -- still a beautiful bike -- but just not 
>> that pretty color I was so excited to see.
> 
>> 
>> The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm 
>> Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that 
>> they had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the 
>> coming week. 
>> 
>> I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, Elise, maybe 
>> I will get a platypus of my own. It will hold me over until my custom 
>> frame being built by a friend in SLC, UT is done this summer. 
>> 
>> Thank you all! I cannot wait to see wild Platypii here and in the wild. 
>> 
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>> 
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:16:58 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> I sent a video with stills to try to show the differences between Platy 
>>> and Clem. It was rather hastily shot, and I should have worn pants 
>>> instead of a tennis skirt so you could better gauge where that top tube 
>>> hits,  but it’s passable. 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jonny P]

I am thrilled to see these go so fast. I am humming and hawing about making 
a financially irresponsible decision to buy a 60cm for myself! They look so 
good. 

I hope everything gets sorted on the color for those of you wanting mermaid 
but with a lime-olive invoice. 

Jonathan P. 
Seattle, WA
On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:15:41 PM UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing.  I wanted the MERMAID but 
> it auto purchased the Lime/Olive.  We'll see what happens.  I clicked as 
> fast as I could on the dot!
>
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4 Heather Hayes wrote:
>
>> I clicked purchase on the 50cm in Mermaid, but my receipt says 
>> Lime-Olive. :/ If anyone had the opposite problem, please let me know if 
>> you'd like to trade! :) 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I could do a 
>>> 50 or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", ride a seat at 72cm.
>>>
>>> You might be in luck.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:03:49 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>>
 oh my... 50-cm Platypus Mermaid is sold out before 3:02pm (EDT). I 
 missed out... 

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:43:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Your wish appears to have been granted. The Platypus page now says 
> $1650. 
>
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:12:03 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April Fool's 
>> joke? Wishful thinking?
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the 
>>> reasoning in the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has 
>>> said since 3-4 weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than 
>>> other 
>>> models, hence the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an 
>>> extra $100 to make. 
>>>
>>> From Platy Page:
>>>
>>> "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us 
>>> about $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include 
>>> a 
>>> wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an 
>>> award 
>>> winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers."
>>>
>>> But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import 
>>> taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the 
>>> price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in 
>>> particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! 
>>>
>>> Jonathan P.
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every 
 chance I get! Good luck, all!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the 
 east coast and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 



 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Note posted on Riv’s website last night:
>
> NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked 
> about it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed 
> Mar 
> 31 8:40 p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not 
> able to 
> sell them that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us 
> considerably more than a Sam, Homer, etc...
>
> The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your 
> side, and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:
>
>> Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter 
>> (depending on tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
>> Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike
>>
>> David Lipsky 
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, 
>> right?) of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 
>> would be 
>> but Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying 
>> to figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike 
>> dimensions 
>> for roll-on service, which 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Eric Marth]

That was pretty nuts. 60s remain at the moment 

3:01 50cm mermaids sold out
3:03 50cm lime olive sold out
3:05 55cm mermaid sold out
3:07 55cm lime olive sold out 

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:15:41 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing.  I wanted the MERMAID but 
> it auto purchased the Lime/Olive.  We'll see what happens.  I clicked as 
> fast as I could on the dot!
>
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4 Heather Hayes wrote:
>
>> I clicked purchase on the 50cm in Mermaid, but my receipt says 
>> Lime-Olive. :/ If anyone had the opposite problem, please let me know if 
>> you'd like to trade! :) 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I could do a 
>>> 50 or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", ride a seat at 72cm.
>>>
>>> You might be in luck.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:03:49 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>>
 oh my... 50-cm Platypus Mermaid is sold out before 3:02pm (EDT). I 
 missed out... 

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:43:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Your wish appears to have been granted. The Platypus page now says 
> $1650. 
>
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:12:03 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April Fool's 
>> joke? Wishful thinking?
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the 
>>> reasoning in the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has 
>>> said since 3-4 weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than 
>>> other 
>>> models, hence the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an 
>>> extra $100 to make. 
>>>
>>> From Platy Page:
>>>
>>> "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us 
>>> about $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include 
>>> a 
>>> wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an 
>>> award 
>>> winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers."
>>>
>>> But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import 
>>> taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the 
>>> price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in 
>>> particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! 
>>>
>>> Jonathan P.
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every 
 chance I get! Good luck, all!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the 
 east coast and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 



 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Note posted on Riv’s website last night:
>
> NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked 
> about it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed 
> Mar 
> 31 8:40 p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not 
> able to 
> sell them that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us 
> considerably more than a Sam, Homer, etc...
>
> The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your 
> side, and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:
>
>> Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter 
>> (depending on tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
>> Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike
>>
>> David Lipsky 
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, 
>> right?) of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 
>> would be 
>> but Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying 
>> to figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike 
>> dimensions 
>> for roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find 
>> the info on the Riv site. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing.  I wanted the MERMAID but it 
auto purchased the Lime/Olive.  We'll see what happens.  I clicked as fast 
as I could on the dot!


On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4 Heather Hayes wrote:

> I clicked purchase on the 50cm in Mermaid, but my receipt says Lime-Olive. 
> :/ If anyone had the opposite problem, please let me know if you'd like to 
> trade! :) 
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I could do a 50 
>> or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", ride a seat at 72cm.
>>
>> You might be in luck.
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:03:49 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>>> oh my... 50-cm Platypus Mermaid is sold out before 3:02pm (EDT). I 
>>> missed out... 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:43:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Your wish appears to have been granted. The Platypus page now says 
 $1650. 


 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:12:03 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:

> Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April Fool's 
> joke? Wishful thinking?
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the reasoning 
>> in the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has said since 
>> 3-4 weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than other models, 
>> hence the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an extra 
>> $100 
>> to make. 
>>
>> From Platy Page:
>>
>> "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us 
>> about $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include a 
>> wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an 
>> award 
>> winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers."
>>
>> But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import 
>> taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the 
>> price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in 
>> particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! 
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every 
>>> chance I get! Good luck, all!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the east 
>>> coast and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Note posted on Riv’s website last night:

 NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked 
 about it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed 
 Mar 
 31 8:40 p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not able 
 to 
 sell them that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us 
 considerably more than a Sam, Homer, etc...

 The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your 
 side, and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant

 On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:

> Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter 
> (depending on tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
> Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike
>
> David Lipsky 
>
> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
>
> I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, 
> right?) of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 
> would be 
> but Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  
> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to 
> figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike 
> dimensions for 
> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the 
> info on the Riv site. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald 
> wrote:
>
>> The bike looks good in its element.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>>
>>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 
>>> miles 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

And, I'm getting a 55 Mermaid, which is what I wanted!
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:04:52 PM UTC-7 Tom Wyland wrote:

> 55 Olive on the way for me! 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jason Fuller]

Only 60cm's remain as of 7 minutes into the sale. Not at all surprised, but
still somewhat amazed.  Hopefully Riv will get another batch in the queue
on an ASAP basis with the factory!  I have to assume they're maxing out the
available manufacturing capacity (they sure ought to be!), which is
probably pretty limited these days.

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

12:10 pst, only 60cm left! 


On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:06:10 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I could do a 50 
> or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", ride a seat at 72cm.
>
> You might be in luck.
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:03:49 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
>> oh my... 50-cm Platypus Mermaid is sold out before 3:02pm (EDT). I missed 
>> out... 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:43:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Your wish appears to have been granted. The Platypus page now says 
>>> $1650. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:12:03 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>>
 Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April Fool's 
 joke? Wishful thinking?

 Jonathan P.
 Seattle, WA

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:

> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the reasoning 
> in the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has said since 
> 3-4 weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than other models, 
> hence the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an extra 
> $100 
> to make. 
>
> From Platy Page:
>
> "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us 
> about $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include a 
> wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an 
> award 
> winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers."
>
> But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import 
> taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the 
> price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in 
> particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! 
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every chance 
>> I get! Good luck, all!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the east 
>> coast and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Note posted on Riv’s website last night:
>>>
>>> NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked 
>>> about it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed 
>>> Mar 
>>> 31 8:40 p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not able 
>>> to 
>>> sell them that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us 
>>> considerably more than a Sam, Homer, etc...
>>>
>>> The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your 
>>> side, and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>>
 Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter (depending 
 on tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
 Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike

 David Lipsky 

 On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  
 wrote:

 I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, 
 right?) of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 would 
 be 
 but Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!



 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  
 wrote:

 Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to 
 figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike 
 dimensions for 
 roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the 
 info on the Riv site. 

 On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald 
 wrote:

> The bike looks good in its element.
>
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>
>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 
>> miles and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. 
>> Look at 
>> that luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>>
>> Two more days, my friends...
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 
>> 30lb bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Heather Hayes]

I clicked purchase on the 50cm in Mermaid, but my receipt says Lime-Olive. 
:/ If anyone had the opposite problem, please let me know if you'd like to 
trade! :) 

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I could do a 50 
> or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", ride a seat at 72cm.
>
> You might be in luck.
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:03:49 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
>> oh my... 50-cm Platypus Mermaid is sold out before 3:02pm (EDT). I missed 
>> out... 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:43:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Your wish appears to have been granted. The Platypus page now says 
>>> $1650. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:12:03 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>>
 Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April Fool's 
 joke? Wishful thinking?

 Jonathan P.
 Seattle, WA

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:

> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the reasoning 
> in the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has said since 
> 3-4 weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than other models, 
> hence the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an extra 
> $100 
> to make. 
>
> From Platy Page:
>
> "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us 
> about $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include a 
> wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an 
> award 
> winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers."
>
> But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import 
> taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the 
> price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in 
> particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! 
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every chance 
>> I get! Good luck, all!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the east 
>> coast and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Note posted on Riv’s website last night:
>>>
>>> NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked 
>>> about it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed 
>>> Mar 
>>> 31 8:40 p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not able 
>>> to 
>>> sell them that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us 
>>> considerably more than a Sam, Homer, etc...
>>>
>>> The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your 
>>> side, and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>>
 Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter (depending 
 on tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
 Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike

 David Lipsky 

 On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  
 wrote:

 I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, 
 right?) of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 would 
 be 
 but Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!



 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  
 wrote:

 Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to 
 figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike 
 dimensions for 
 roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the 
 info on the Riv site. 

 On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald 
 wrote:

> The bike looks good in its element.
>
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>
>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 
>> miles and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. 
>> Look at 
>> that luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>>
>> Two more days, my friends...
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Weight does matter 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I could do a 50 
or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", ride a seat at 72cm.

You might be in luck.

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:03:49 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote:

> oh my... 50-cm Platypus Mermaid is sold out before 3:02pm (EDT). I missed 
> out... 
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:43:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Your wish appears to have been granted. The Platypus page now says $1650. 
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:12:03 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April Fool's joke? 
>>> Wishful thinking?
>>>
>>> Jonathan P.
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>>
 While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the reasoning 
 in the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has said since 
 3-4 weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than other models, 
 hence the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an extra $100 
 to make. 

 From Platy Page:

 "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us 
 about $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include a 
 wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an award 
 winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers."

 But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import 
 taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the 
 price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in 
 particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! 

 Jonathan P.
 Seattle, WA
 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every chance 
> I get! Good luck, all!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the east 
> coast and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Note posted on Riv’s website last night:
>>
>> NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked 
>> about it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed 
>> Mar 
>> 31 8:40 p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not able 
>> to 
>> sell them that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us 
>> considerably more than a Sam, Homer, etc...
>>
>> The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your 
>> side, and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>
>>> Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter (depending 
>>> on tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
>>> Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike
>>>
>>> David Lipsky 
>>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, 
>>> right?) of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 would 
>>> be 
>>> but Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to 
>>> figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions 
>>> for 
>>> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the 
>>> info on the Riv site. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The bike looks good in its element.

 On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>
> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 
> miles and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. 
> Look at 
> that luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>
> Two more days, my friends...
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
> wrote:
>
> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 
> 30lb bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away 
> from a 
> stop, be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you 
> will 
> enjoy those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve 
> it. 
> It's a matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Tom Wyland]

55 Olive on the way for me! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Shoji Takahashi]

oh my... 50-cm Platypus Mermaid is sold out before 3:02pm (EDT). I missed 
out... 

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:43:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Your wish appears to have been granted. The Platypus page now says $1650. 
>
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:12:03 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April Fool's joke? 
>> Wishful thinking?
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the reasoning in 
>>> the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has said since 3-4 
>>> weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than other models, hence 
>>> the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an extra $100 to 
>>> make. 
>>>
>>> From Platy Page:
>>>
>>> "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us 
>>> about $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include a 
>>> wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an award 
>>> winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers."
>>>
>>> But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import 
>>> taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the 
>>> price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in 
>>> particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! 
>>>
>>> Jonathan P.
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every chance I 
 get! Good luck, all!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the east 
 coast and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 



 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Note posted on Riv’s website last night:
>
> NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked 
> about it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed Mar 
> 31 8:40 p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not able to 
> sell them that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us 
> considerably more than a Sam, Homer, etc...
>
> The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your 
> side, and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:
>
>> Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter (depending 
>> on tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
>> Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike
>>
>> David Lipsky 
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, 
>> right?) of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 would 
>> be 
>> but Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to 
>> figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions 
>> for 
>> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info 
>> on the Riv site. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The bike looks good in its element.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Amen, Philip. And thanks! 

 The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 
 miles and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. 
 Look at 
 that luscious silhouette. Coming soon.

 Two more days, my friends...



 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
 wrote:

 Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 
 30lb bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away 
 from a 
 stop, be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you 
 will 
 enjoy those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve 
 it. 
 It's a matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate 
 thread, 
 you can save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real 
 deal 
 right there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're 
 spending $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices 
 will 
 deliver a much more enjoyable bike.

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

Your wish appears to have been granted. The Platypus page now says $1650. 


On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:12:03 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:

> Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April Fool's joke? 
> Wishful thinking?
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the reasoning in 
>> the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has said since 3-4 
>> weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than other models, hence 
>> the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an extra $100 to 
>> make. 
>>
>> From Platy Page:
>>
>> "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us 
>> about $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include a 
>> wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an award 
>> winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers."
>>
>> But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import 
>> taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the 
>> price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in 
>> particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! 
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every chance I 
>>> get! Good luck, all!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the east 
>>> coast and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Note posted on Riv’s website last night:

 NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked 
 about it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed Mar 
 31 8:40 p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not able to 
 sell them that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us 
 considerably more than a Sam, Homer, etc...

 The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your side, 
 and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant

 On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:

> Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter (depending on 
> tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
> Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike
>
> David Lipsky 
>
> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
>
> I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, 
> right?) of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 would be 
> but Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to 
> figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions 
> for 
> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info 
> on the Riv site. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald 
> wrote:
>
>> The bike looks good in its element.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>>
>>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 
>>> miles and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. 
>>> Look at 
>>> that luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>>>
>>> Two more days, my friends...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 
>>> 30lb bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away 
>>> from a 
>>> stop, be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will 
>>> enjoy those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve 
>>> it. 
>>> It's a matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate 
>>> thread, 
>>> you can save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real 
>>> deal 
>>> right there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're 
>>> spending $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices 
>>> will 
>>> deliver a much more enjoyable bike.
>>>
>>>
>>> 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy 
>>> to remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got 
>>> real 
>>> gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity 
>>> you 
>>> really need, even the best racks 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Bruce Herbitter]

There is always a buzz of excitement when RBW introduces some new thing. Models 
come and go regularly. As GP notes, Platypus is the 4th Mixte model they’ve 
rolled out. (Wilbury/Glorius, Betty Foy/Yves Gomez, Cheviot are the others). 
When the idea of extending the top tube as chain stays or adding stays to a 
middle tube (think Hunqapillar) was first suggested, RBW wasn’t sure if they 
liked it and asked for opinion.  I think the decision to adopt it has resulted 
in a string of nice looking frames. Really though, ALL their frames have been 
nice looking and nice riding too. Looks like they’re sold out of all models of 
their bikes at the moment.

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 1, 2021, at 10:25 AM, Jingy  wrote:
> 
> My guess is shipping costs are way up in the last three months.
> I don't need a Platy, I don't need a Platy, I don't need a Platy...
> 
> Jim
> 
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:12:03 AM UTC-5 Jonny P wrote:
>> Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April Fool's joke? 
>> Wishful thinking?
>> 
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>> 
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the reasoning in 
>>> the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has said since 3-4 
>>> weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than other models, hence 
>>> the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an extra $100 to 
>>> make. 
>>> 
>>> From Platy Page:
>>> 
>>> "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us about 
>>> $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include a 
>>> wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an award 
>>> winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers."
>>> 
>>> But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import 
>>> taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the 
>>> price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in 
>>> particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! 
>>> 
>>> Jonathan P.
>>> Seattle, WA
 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:
 Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every chance I 
 get! Good luck, all!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>> 
> I am not purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the east coast 
> and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 
 
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>> Note posted on Riv’s website last night:
>> NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked about 
>> it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed Mar 31 
>> 8:40 p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not able to 
>> sell them that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us 
>> considerably more than a Sam, Homer, etc...
>> 
>> The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your side, 
>> and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>> Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter (depending on 
>>> tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
>>> Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike
>>> 
>>> David Lipsky 
>>> 
> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
> 
 I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, 
 right?) of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 would 
 be but Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!
>>> 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>> 
> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to 
> figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike 
> dimensions for roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't 
> find the info on the Riv site. 
> 
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald 
>> wrote:
>> The bike looks good in its element.
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>> 
>>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 
>>> miles and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. 
>>> Look at that luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>>> 
>>> Two more days, my friends...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett 
>  wrote:
> 
 Weight does 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jingy]

My guess is shipping costs are way up in the last three months.
I don't need a Platy, I don't need a Platy, I don't need a Platy...

Jim

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:12:03 AM UTC-5 Jonny P wrote:

> Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April Fool's joke? 
> Wishful thinking?
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the reasoning in 
>> the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has said since 3-4 
>> weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than other models, hence 
>> the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an extra $100 to 
>> make. 
>>
>> From Platy Page:
>>
>> "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us 
>> about $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include a 
>> wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an award 
>> winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers."
>>
>> But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import 
>> taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the 
>> price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in 
>> particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! 
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every chance I 
>>> get! Good luck, all!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the east 
>>> coast and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Note posted on Riv’s website last night:

 NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked 
 about it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed Mar 
 31 8:40 p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not able to 
 sell them that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us 
 considerably more than a Sam, Homer, etc...

 The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your side, 
 and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant

 On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:

> Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter (depending on 
> tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
> Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike
>
> David Lipsky 
>
> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
>
> I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, 
> right?) of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 would be 
> but Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to 
> figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions 
> for 
> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info 
> on the Riv site. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald 
> wrote:
>
>> The bike looks good in its element.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>>
>>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 
>>> miles and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. 
>>> Look at 
>>> that luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>>>
>>> Two more days, my friends...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 
>>> 30lb bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away 
>>> from a 
>>> stop, be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will 
>>> enjoy those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve 
>>> it. 
>>> It's a matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate 
>>> thread, 
>>> you can save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real 
>>> deal 
>>> right there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're 
>>> spending $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices 
>>> will 
>>> deliver a much more enjoyable bike.
>>>
>>>
>>> 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy 
>>> to remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got 
>>> real 
>>> gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jonny P]

Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April Fool's joke? 
Wishful thinking?

Jonathan P.
Seattle, WA

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:

> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the reasoning in 
> the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has said since 3-4 
> weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than other models, hence 
> the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an extra $100 to 
> make. 
>
> From Platy Page:
>
> "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us about 
> $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include a 
> wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an award 
> winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers."
>
> But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import 
> taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the 
> price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in 
> particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! 
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every chance I 
>> get! Good luck, all!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the east 
>> coast and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Note posted on Riv’s website last night:
>>>
>>> NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked about 
>>> it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed Mar 31 8:40 
>>> p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not able to sell them 
>>> that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us considerably 
>>> more than a Sam, Homer, etc...
>>>
>>> The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your side, 
>>> and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>>
 Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter (depending on 
 tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
 Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike

 David Lipsky 

 On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:

 I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, 
 right?) of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 would be 
 but Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!



 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:

 Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to 
 figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions 
 for 
 roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info 
 on the Riv site. 

 On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:

> The bike looks good in its element.
>
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>
>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles 
>> and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at 
>> that 
>> luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>>
>> Two more days, my friends...
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 
>> 30lb bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from 
>> a 
>> stop, be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will 
>> enjoy those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. 
>> It's a matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, 
>> you can save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real 
>> deal 
>> right there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're 
>> spending $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices 
>> will 
>> deliver a much more enjoyable bike.
>>
>>
>> 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
>> remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
>> gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity 
>> you 
>> really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
>> there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
>> back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Aw 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jonny P]

While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the reasoning in 
the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has said since 3-4 
weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than other models, hence 
the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an extra $100 to 
make. 

>From Platy Page:

"It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us about 
$80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include a 
wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an award 
winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers."

But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import 
taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the 
price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in 
particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! 

Jonathan P.
Seattle, WA
On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every chance I 
> get! Good luck, all!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the east coast 
> and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Note posted on Riv’s website last night:
>>
>> NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked about 
>> it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed Mar 31 8:40 
>> p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not able to sell them 
>> that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us considerably 
>> more than a Sam, Homer, etc...
>>
>> The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your side, 
>> and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>
>>> Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter (depending on 
>>> tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
>>> Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike
>>>
>>> David Lipsky 
>>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, 
>>> right?) of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 would be 
>>> but Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to 
>>> figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions for 
>>> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info on 
>>> the Riv site. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>>>
 The bike looks good in its element.

 On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>
> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles 
> and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at 
> that 
> luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>
> Two more days, my friends...
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
> wrote:
>
> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb 
> bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a 
> stop, 
> be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will enjoy 
> those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. It's a 
> matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, you can 
> save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real deal right 
> there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're spending 
> $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices will 
> deliver 
> a much more enjoyable bike.
>
>
> 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
> remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
> gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity 
> you 
> really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
> there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
> back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to 
>> make the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you 
>> score? 
>>
>> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
>> light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I 
>> like 
>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every chance I get! 
Good luck, all!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> I am not purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the east coast and 
> I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 
> 
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>> Note posted on Riv’s website last night:
>> NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked about it 
>> for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed Mar 31 8:40 
>> p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not able to sell them 
>> that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us considerably more 
>> than a Sam, Homer, etc...
>> 
>> The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your side, and 
>> we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>> Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter (depending on tire 
>>> volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
>>> Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike
>>> 
>>> David Lipsky 
>>> 
> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
 I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, right?) 
 of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 would be but 
 Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!
>>> 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>> 
> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to figure 
> out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions for 
> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info on 
> the Riv site. 
> 
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>> The bike looks good in its element.
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>> 
>>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles 
>>> and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at 
>>> that luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>>> 
>>> Two more days, my friends...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
> wrote:
> 
 Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb 
 bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a 
 stop, be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you 
 will enjoy those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to 
 achieve it. It's a matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a 
 separate thread, you can save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, 
 that's the real deal right there. The weight-weenie really only comes 
 into play when you're spending $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of 
 grams, sensible choices will deliver a much more enjoyable bike.
>>> 
 
 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
 remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got 
 real gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying 
 capacity you really need, even the best racks are heavy & for 
 occasional big loads there's plenty of temporary options that are 
 easily removed once you get back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee 
 today).
 
 
 
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to 
> make the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you 
> score? 
> 
> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
> light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I 
> like to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really 
> resourceful in getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my 
> neck way out here because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell 
> me weight doesn’t matter, but that is just not my experience. It 
> matters. Especially when you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no 
> other. God help me.” 
> 
> All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a 
> Platy - be sure to let us know.
> Leah
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>>> 
>> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my 
>> dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Eric Marth]

I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the east coast 
and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Note posted on Riv’s website last night:
>
> NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked about 
> it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed Mar 31 8:40 
> p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not able to sell them 
> that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us considerably 
> more than a Sam, Homer, etc...
>
> The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your side, 
> and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:
>
>> Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter (depending on 
>> tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
>> Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike
>>
>> David Lipsky 
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, right?) 
>> of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 would be but 
>> Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to figure 
>> out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions for 
>> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info on 
>> the Riv site. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>>
>>> The bike looks good in its element.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Amen, Philip. And thanks! 

 The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles 
 and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at that 
 luscious silhouette. Coming soon.

 Two more days, my friends...



 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
 wrote:

 Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb 
 bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a 
 stop, 
 be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will enjoy 
 those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. It's a 
 matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, you can 
 save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real deal right 
 there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're spending 
 $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices will deliver 
 a much more enjoyable bike.


 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
 remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
 gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity 
 you 
 really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
 there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
 back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).



 On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to make 
> the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you score? 
>
> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
> light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I like 
> to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really resourceful in 
> getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out here 
> because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t 
> matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when 
> you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.” 
>
> All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a 
> Platy - be sure to let us know.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>
> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my 
> dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My 
> dad was totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go through 
> that effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that 
> if 
> we are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident 
> will fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up 
> from his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the 
> Clem 
> L -- still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so 
> excited to see.

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

Note posted on Riv’s website last night:

NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked about it 
for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed Mar 31 8:40 
p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not able to sell them 
that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us considerably 
more than a Sam, Homer, etc...

The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your side, and 
we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant

On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:

> Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter (depending on 
> tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
> Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike
>
> David Lipsky 
>
> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, right?) 
> of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 would be but 
> Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to figure 
> out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions for 
> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info on 
> the Riv site. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>
>> The bike looks good in its element.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>>
>>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles 
>>> and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at that 
>>> luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>>>
>>> Two more days, my friends...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb 
>>> bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a stop, 
>>> be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will enjoy 
>>> those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. It's a 
>>> matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, you can 
>>> save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real deal right 
>>> there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're spending 
>>> $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices will deliver 
>>> a much more enjoyable bike.
>>>
>>>
>>> 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
>>> remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
>>> gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity you 
>>> really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
>>> there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
>>> back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to make 
 the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you score? 

 Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
 light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I like 
 to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really resourceful in 
 getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out here 
 because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t 
 matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when 
 you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.” 

 All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a 
 Platy - be sure to let us know.
 Leah

 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:

 Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my 
 dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My 
 dad was totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go through 
 that effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that if 
 we are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident 
 will fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up 
 from his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the 
 Clem 
 L -- still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so 
 excited to see.


 The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm 
 Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that they 
 had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the coming 
 week. 

 I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[David Lipsky]

Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter (depending on tire 
volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike

David Lipsky 

> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, right?) of 
> my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 would be but Philip 
> sounds like he knows how to figure it out!
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>>> 
>> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to figure 
>> out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions for roll-on 
>> service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info on the Riv 
>> site. 
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>>> The bike looks good in its element.
>>> 
 On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:
 Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
 
 The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles and 
 this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at that 
 luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
 
 Two more days, my friends...
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
>> 
> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb 
> bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a 
> stop, be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will 
> enjoy those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. 
> It's a matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, 
> you can save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real 
> deal right there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when 
> you're spending $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible 
> choices will deliver a much more enjoyable bike.
 
> 
> 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
> remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
> gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity 
> you really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
> there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
> back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to make 
>> the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you score? 
>> 
>> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
>> light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I 
>> like to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really 
>> resourceful in getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck 
>> way out here because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me 
>> weight doesn’t matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. 
>> Especially when you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help 
>> me.” 
>> 
>> All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a Platy 
>> - be sure to let us know.
>> Leah
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
 
>>> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my 
>>> dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. 
>>> My dad was totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go 
>>> through that effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad 
>>> decided that if we are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike 
>>> that he is confident will fit until his days on earth are through. This 
>>> will be a big step up from his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous 
>>> mermaid platy to the Clem L -- still a beautiful bike -- but just not 
>>> that pretty color I was so excited to see.
>> 
>>> 
>>> The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm 
>>> Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that 
>>> they had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the 
>>> coming week. 
>>> 
>>> I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, Elise, 
>>> maybe I will get a platypus of my own. It will hold me over until my 
>>> custom frame being built by a friend in SLC, UT is done this summer. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you all! I cannot wait to see wild Platypii here and in the wild. 
>>> 
>>> Jonathan P.
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> 
 On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:16:58 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jon Dukeman]

Emily
I measured my 60cm Cheviot the best I could from the rear fender to front
tire.
It's close to 75".
Not sure if the Platty is longer.
Jon

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 4:13 PM Emily Guise  wrote:

> Leah, I think what Amtrak is referring to is overall length instead of
> wheelbase, because the bikes are hung up on hooks inside the baggage car.
> But that's still helpful to know, thank you!
>
> Thanks Joe and Phillip for your help on those numbers. I suspected it
> would be a bit too long (one downside of the cushy ride) but was still
> holding out hope.
>
> -Emily
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 1:54:35 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> That's a 50cm in the pictures, overall length = 6' or 72" already as
>> shown. Worst case a 60 would be another 5% give or take, so around 75".
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 3:43:11 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> The length you're getting is about 72 inches. I'm getting 74 on my 54cm
>>> custom and 53cm Susie, both with 650B wheels. I think it's safe to assume a
>>> 60cm Platy with 700C wheels will be in the range of my bikes, so the Amtrak
>>> plan is probably not workable. I'm curious what the full length of Leah's
>>> 55 Platy is.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 1:21:18 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Is there a draftsperson in house? Oh yes...

 Extrapolating the chain guard (which I have here & can measure) I was
 able to scale up one of the online pictures. Metric and old money too,
 should be pretty close allowing for some lens distortion.

 [image: Plat Dims.png]

 On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 3:09:15 PM UTC-5 Emily Guise wrote:

> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to
> figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions 
> for
> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info
> on the Riv site.
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald
> wrote:
>
>> The bike looks good in its element.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Amen, Philip. And thanks!
>>>
>>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13
>>> miles and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. 
>>> Look at
>>> that luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>>>
>>> Two more days, my friends...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub
>>> 30lb bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away 
>>> from a
>>> stop, be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will
>>> enjoy those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it.
>>> It's a matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread,
>>> you can save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real 
>>> deal
>>> right there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're
>>> spending $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices 
>>> will
>>> deliver a much more enjoyable bike.
>>>
>>>
>>> 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy
>>> to remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got 
>>> real
>>> gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity 
>>> you
>>> really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads
>>> there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get
>>> back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to
 make the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you 
 score?

 Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved
 buying light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, 
 as I
 like to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really 
 resourceful
 in getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out 
 here
 because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t
 matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when
 you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.”

 All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a
 Platy - be sure to let us know.
 Leah

 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:

 Leah's 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Emily Guise]

Leah, I think what Amtrak is referring to is overall length instead of 
wheelbase, because the bikes are hung up on hooks inside the baggage car. 
But that's still helpful to know, thank you!

Thanks Joe and Phillip for your help on those numbers. I suspected it would 
be a bit too long (one downside of the cushy ride) but was still holding 
out hope.

-Emily

On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 1:54:35 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> That's a 50cm in the pictures, overall length = 6' or 72" already as 
> shown. Worst case a 60 would be another 5% give or take, so around 75".
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 3:43:11 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> The length you're getting is about 72 inches. I'm getting 74 on my 54cm 
>> custom and 53cm Susie, both with 650B wheels. I think it's safe to assume a 
>> 60cm Platy with 700C wheels will be in the range of my bikes, so the Amtrak 
>> plan is probably not workable. I'm curious what the full length of Leah's 
>> 55 Platy is. 
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 1:21:18 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a draftsperson in house? Oh yes...
>>>
>>> Extrapolating the chain guard (which I have here & can measure) I was 
>>> able to scale up one of the online pictures. Metric and old money too, 
>>> should be pretty close allowing for some lens distortion.
>>>
>>> [image: Plat Dims.png]
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 3:09:15 PM UTC-5 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to 
 figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions 
 for 
 roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info 
 on the Riv site. 

 On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:

> The bike looks good in its element.
>
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>
>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles 
>> and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at 
>> that 
>> luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>>
>> Two more days, my friends...
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 
>> 30lb bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from 
>> a 
>> stop, be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will 
>> enjoy those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. 
>> It's a matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, 
>> you can save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real 
>> deal 
>> right there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're 
>> spending $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices 
>> will 
>> deliver a much more enjoyable bike.
>>
>>
>> 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
>> remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
>> gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity 
>> you 
>> really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
>> there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
>> back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to 
>>> make the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you 
>>> score? 
>>>
>>> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved 
>>> buying light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, 
>>> as I 
>>> like to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really 
>>> resourceful 
>>> in getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out 
>>> here 
>>> because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t 
>>> matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when 
>>> you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.” 
>>>
>>> All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a 
>>> Platy - be sure to let us know.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my 
>>> dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. 
>>> My 
>>> dad was totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go 
>>> through 
>>> that effort for a stranger. I was, too. 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

That's a 50cm in the pictures, overall length = 6' or 72" already as shown. 
Worst case a 60 would be another 5% give or take, so around 75".

On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 3:43:11 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> The length you're getting is about 72 inches. I'm getting 74 on my 54cm 
> custom and 53cm Susie, both with 650B wheels. I think it's safe to assume a 
> 60cm Platy with 700C wheels will be in the range of my bikes, so the Amtrak 
> plan is probably not workable. I'm curious what the full length of Leah's 
> 55 Platy is. 
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 1:21:18 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Is there a draftsperson in house? Oh yes...
>>
>> Extrapolating the chain guard (which I have here & can measure) I was 
>> able to scale up one of the online pictures. Metric and old money too, 
>> should be pretty close allowing for some lens distortion.
>>
>> [image: Plat Dims.png]
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 3:09:15 PM UTC-5 Emily Guise wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to figure 
>>> out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions for 
>>> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info on 
>>> the Riv site. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>>>
 The bike looks good in its element.

 On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>
> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles 
> and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at 
> that 
> luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>
> Two more days, my friends...
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
> wrote:
>
> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb 
> bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a 
> stop, 
> be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will enjoy 
> those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. It's a 
> matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, you can 
> save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real deal right 
> there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're spending 
> $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices will 
> deliver 
> a much more enjoyable bike.
>
>
> 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
> remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
> gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity 
> you 
> really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
> there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
> back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to 
>> make the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you 
>> score? 
>>
>> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
>> light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I 
>> like 
>> to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really resourceful in 
>> getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out here 
>> because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t 
>> matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when 
>> you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.” 
>>
>> All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a 
>> Platy - be sure to let us know.
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>>
>> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my 
>> dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My 
>> dad was totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go 
>> through 
>> that effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that 
>> if 
>> we are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident 
>> will fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up 
>> from his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the 
>> Clem 
>> L -- still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so 
>> excited to see.
>>
>>
>> The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 
>> 59cm Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out 
>> that 
>> they had 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

The length you're getting is about 72 inches. I'm getting 74 on my 54cm 
custom and 53cm Susie, both with 650B wheels. I think it's safe to assume a 
60cm Platy with 700C wheels will be in the range of my bikes, so the Amtrak 
plan is probably not workable. I'm curious what the full length of Leah's 
55 Platy is. 


On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 1:21:18 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Is there a draftsperson in house? Oh yes...
>
> Extrapolating the chain guard (which I have here & can measure) I was able 
> to scale up one of the online pictures. Metric and old money too, should be 
> pretty close allowing for some lens distortion.
>
> [image: Plat Dims.png]
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 3:09:15 PM UTC-5 Emily Guise wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to figure 
>> out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions for 
>> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info on 
>> the Riv site. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>>
>>> The bike looks good in its element.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Amen, Philip. And thanks! 

 The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles 
 and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at that 
 luscious silhouette. Coming soon.

 Two more days, my friends...



 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
 wrote:

 Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb 
 bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a 
 stop, 
 be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will enjoy 
 those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. It's a 
 matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, you can 
 save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real deal right 
 there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're spending 
 $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices will deliver 
 a much more enjoyable bike.


 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
 remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
 gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity 
 you 
 really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
 there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
 back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).



 On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to make 
> the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you score? 
>
> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
> light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I like 
> to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really resourceful in 
> getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out here 
> because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t 
> matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when 
> you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.” 
>
> All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a 
> Platy - be sure to let us know.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>
> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my 
> dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My 
> dad was totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go through 
> that effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that 
> if 
> we are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident 
> will fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up 
> from his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the 
> Clem 
> L -- still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so 
> excited to see.
>
>
> The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm 
> Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that they 
> had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the coming 
> week. 
>
> I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, Elise, 
> maybe I will get a platypus of my own. It will hold me over until my 
> custom 
> frame being built by a friend in SLC, UT is done this summer. 
>
> Thank you all! I cannot wait to see 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, right?) of my 
55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 would be but Philip sounds 
like he knows how to figure it out!

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to figure out 
> if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions for roll-on 
> service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info on the Riv site. 
> 
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>> The bike looks good in its element.
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>> 
>>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles and 
>>> this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at that 
>>> luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>>> 
>>> Two more days, my friends...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
> 
 Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb 
 bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a 
 stop, be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will 
 enjoy those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. 
 It's a matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, 
 you can save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real deal 
 right there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're 
 spending $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices 
 will deliver a much more enjoyable bike.
>>> 
 
 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
 remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
 gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity 
 you really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
 there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
 back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).
 
 
 
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to make 
> the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you score? 
> 
> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
> light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I like 
> to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really resourceful in 
> getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out here 
> because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t 
> matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when 
> you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.” 
> 
> All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a Platy 
> - be sure to let us know.
> Leah
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>>> 
>> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my 
>> dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My 
>> dad was totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go 
>> through that effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad 
>> decided that if we are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that 
>> he is confident will fit until his days on earth are through. This will 
>> be a big step up from his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous 
>> mermaid platy to the Clem L -- still a beautiful bike -- but just not 
>> that pretty color I was so excited to see.
> 
>> 
>> The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm 
>> Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that 
>> they had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the 
>> coming week. 
>> 
>> I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, Elise, maybe 
>> I will get a platypus of my own. It will hold me over until my custom 
>> frame being built by a friend in SLC, UT is done this summer. 
>> 
>> Thank you all! I cannot wait to see wild Platypii here and in the wild. 
>> 
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>> 
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:16:58 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> I sent a video with stills to try to show the differences between Platy 
>>> and Clem. It was rather hastily shot, and I should have worn pants 
>>> instead of a tennis skirt so you could better gauge where that top tube 
>>> hits,  but it’s passable. 
>>> 
>>> If anyone has Jonathan’s 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Emily Guise]

Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to figure 
out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions for 
roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info on the 
Riv site. 

On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:

> The bike looks good in its element.
>
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>
>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles and 
>> this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at that 
>> luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>>
>> Two more days, my friends...
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
>>
>> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb 
>> bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a stop, 
>> be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will enjoy 
>> those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. It's a 
>> matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, you can 
>> save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real deal right 
>> there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're spending 
>> $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices will deliver 
>> a much more enjoyable bike.
>>
>>
>> 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
>> remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
>> gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity you 
>> really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
>> there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
>> back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to make 
>>> the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you score? 
>>>
>>> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
>>> light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I like 
>>> to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really resourceful in 
>>> getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out here 
>>> because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t 
>>> matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when 
>>> you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.” 
>>>
>>> All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a Platy 
>>> - be sure to let us know.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my 
>>> dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My 
>>> dad was totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go through 
>>> that effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that if 
>>> we are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident 
>>> will fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up 
>>> from his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the Clem 
>>> L -- still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so 
>>> excited to see.
>>>
>>>
>>> The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm 
>>> Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that they 
>>> had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the coming 
>>> week. 
>>>
>>> I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, Elise, maybe 
>>> I will get a platypus of my own. It will hold me over until my custom frame 
>>> being built by a friend in SLC, UT is done this summer. 
>>>
>>> Thank you all! I cannot wait to see wild Platypii here and in the wild. 
>>>
>>> Jonathan P.
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:16:58 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I sent a video with stills to try to show the differences between Platy 
 and Clem. It was rather hastily shot, and I should have worn pants instead 
 of a tennis skirt so you could better gauge where that top tube hits,  but 
 it’s passable. 

 If anyone has Jonathan’s quandary about which Rivendell is better for 
 you - step-over vs step-thru, email me and I’ll send the video your way.
 Leah

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Jonny P  wrote:

 Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the 
 decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through 
 is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW 
 propensity to not really give frame measurements, it 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Clark Fitzgerald]

The bike looks good in its element.

On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>
> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles and 
> this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at that 
> luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>
> Two more days, my friends...
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
>
> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb 
> bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a stop, 
> be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will enjoy 
> those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. It's a 
> matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, you can 
> save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real deal right 
> there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're spending 
> $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices will deliver 
> a much more enjoyable bike.
>
>
> 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
> remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
> gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity you 
> really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
> there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
> back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to make 
>> the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you score? 
>>
>> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
>> light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I like 
>> to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really resourceful in 
>> getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out here 
>> because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t 
>> matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when 
>> you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.” 
>>
>> All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a Platy 
>> - be sure to let us know.
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>>
>> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my dad's 
>> bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My dad was 
>> totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go through that 
>> effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that if we 
>> are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident will 
>> fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up from 
>> his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the Clem L -- 
>> still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so excited 
>> to see.
>>
>>
>> The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm 
>> Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that they 
>> had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the coming 
>> week. 
>>
>> I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, Elise, maybe 
>> I will get a platypus of my own. It will hold me over until my custom frame 
>> being built by a friend in SLC, UT is done this summer. 
>>
>> Thank you all! I cannot wait to see wild Platypii here and in the wild. 
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:16:58 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I sent a video with stills to try to show the differences between Platy 
>>> and Clem. It was rather hastily shot, and I should have worn pants instead 
>>> of a tennis skirt so you could better gauge where that top tube hits,  but 
>>> it’s passable. 
>>>
>>> If anyone has Jonathan’s quandary about which Rivendell is better for 
>>> you - step-over vs step-thru, email me and I’ll send the video your way.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>>>
>>> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the 
>>> decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through 
>>> is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW 
>>> propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to 
>>> discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper 
>>> angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. 
>>> When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like 
>>> difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it 
>>> seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. 
>>>
>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 30lb bike 
(unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from a stop, be 
able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will enjoy those 
far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. It's a matter 
of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, you can save 
4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real deal right there. 
The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're spending $100s or 
$1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices will deliver a much 
more enjoyable bike.

200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity you 
really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).



On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to make the 
> right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you score? 
>
> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying 
> light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I like 
> to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really resourceful in 
> getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out here 
> because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t 
> matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when 
> you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.” 
>
> All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a Platy - 
> be sure to let us know.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>
> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my dad's 
> bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My dad was 
> totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go through that 
> effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that if we 
> are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident will 
> fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up from 
> his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the Clem L -- 
> still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so excited 
> to see.
>
>
> The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm 
> Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that they 
> had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the coming 
> week. 
>
> I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, Elise, maybe I 
> will get a platypus of my own. It will hold me over until my custom frame 
> being built by a friend in SLC, UT is done this summer. 
>
> Thank you all! I cannot wait to see wild Platypii here and in the wild. 
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:16:58 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I sent a video with stills to try to show the differences between Platy 
>> and Clem. It was rather hastily shot, and I should have worn pants instead 
>> of a tennis skirt so you could better gauge where that top tube hits,  but 
>> it’s passable. 
>>
>> If anyone has Jonathan’s quandary about which Rivendell is better for you 
>> - step-over vs step-thru, email me and I’ll send the video your way.
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>>
>> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the 
>> decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through 
>> is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW 
>> propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to 
>> discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper 
>> angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. 
>> When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like 
>> difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it 
>> seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. 
>>
>>
>> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? 
>> Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying 
>> the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- 
>> it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a 
>> comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
>>
>> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? 
>> My dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could 
>> handle it given the e-assist isn't 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to make the 
right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you score? 

Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying light 
parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I like to say, but 
they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really resourceful in getting my Clem 
lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out here because there are 10 
guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t matter, but that is just not my 
experience. It matters. Especially when you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do 
no other. God help me.” 

All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a Platy - be 
sure to let us know.
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my dad's 
> bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My dad was 
> totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go through that effort 
> for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that if we are 
> spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident will fit 
> until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up from his 
> Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the Clem L -- still 
> a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so excited to see.
> 
> The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm Clem L 
> complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that they had one in 
> stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the coming week. 
> 
> I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, Elise, maybe I 
> will get a platypus of my own. It will hold me over until my custom frame 
> being built by a friend in SLC, UT is done this summer. 
> 
> Thank you all! I cannot wait to see wild Platypii here and in the wild. 
> 
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
> 
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:16:58 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>> I sent a video with stills to try to show the differences between Platy and 
>> Clem. It was rather hastily shot, and I should have worn pants instead of a 
>> tennis skirt so you could better gauge where that top tube hits,  but it’s 
>> passable. 
>> 
>> If anyone has Jonathan’s quandary about which Rivendell is better for you - 
>> step-over vs step-thru, email me and I’ll send the video your way.
>> Leah
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>> 
>>> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the 
>>> decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through 
>>> is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW 
>>> propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to 
>>> discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper 
>>> angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. 
>>> When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like 
>>> difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it 
>>> seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? 
>>> Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying 
>>> the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- 
>>> it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a 
>>> comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
>>> 
>>> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? My 
>>> dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could handle 
>>> it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Thank you both!
>>> 
>>> Jonathan P.
>>> Seattle, WA 
>>> 
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
 Jonathan,
 
 I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 
 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher 
 than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where 
 you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the 
 toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're 
 describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and 
 could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and 
 look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over 
 ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do 
 would fit a Clem L very well in my opinion. 
 
 On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call 
> up Riv, and since I missed the 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jonny P]

Same -- I like when things fall in place. 

As a side note, Will told me about 50 Clem L frames will be available in 
June. Completes will be available near the end of the year. 

Jonathan P.
Seattle, WA 98108

On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 3:19:55 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I love when a plan comes together. I think you and your dad made a wise 
> choice, those Clems are super extra great bikes. He's going to love it! 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 2:00:52 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my dad's 
>> bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My dad was 
>> totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go through that 
>> effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that if we 
>> are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident will 
>> fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up from 
>> his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the Clem L -- 
>> still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so excited 
>> to see.
>>
>> The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm 
>> Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that they 
>> had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the coming 
>> week. 
>>
>> I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, Elise, maybe 
>> I will get a platypus of my own. It will hold me over until my custom frame 
>> being built by a friend in SLC, UT is done this summer. 
>>
>> Thank you all! I cannot wait to see wild Platypii here and in the wild. 
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:16:58 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I sent a video with stills to try to show the differences between Platy 
>>> and Clem. It was rather hastily shot, and I should have worn pants instead 
>>> of a tennis skirt so you could better gauge where that top tube hits,  but 
>>> it’s passable. 
>>>
>>> If anyone has Jonathan’s quandary about which Rivendell is better for 
>>> you - step-over vs step-thru, email me and I’ll send the video your way.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>>>
>>> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the 
>>> decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through 
>>> is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW 
>>> propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to 
>>> discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper 
>>> angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. 
>>> When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like 
>>> difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it 
>>> seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? 
>>> Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying 
>>> the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- 
>>> it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a 
>>> comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
>>>
>>> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? 
>>> My dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could 
>>> handle it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thank you both!
>>>
>>> Jonathan P.
>>> Seattle, WA 
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Jonathan,

 I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 
 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher 
 than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where 
 you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the 
 toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're 
 describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and 
 could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and 
 look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over 
 ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do 
 would 
 fit a Clem L very well in my opinion. 

 On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:

> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to 
> call up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers 
> could 
> not actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it 
> is for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and 
> I 
> will be sure to get one. 
>
> My 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

I love when a plan comes together. I think you and your dad made a wise 
choice, those Clems are super extra great bikes. He's going to love it! 



On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 2:00:52 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:

> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my dad's 
> bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My dad was 
> totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go through that 
> effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that if we 
> are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident will 
> fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up from 
> his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the Clem L -- 
> still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so excited 
> to see.
>
> The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm 
> Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that they 
> had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the coming 
> week. 
>
> I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, Elise, maybe I 
> will get a platypus of my own. It will hold me over until my custom frame 
> being built by a friend in SLC, UT is done this summer. 
>
> Thank you all! I cannot wait to see wild Platypii here and in the wild. 
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:16:58 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I sent a video with stills to try to show the differences between Platy 
>> and Clem. It was rather hastily shot, and I should have worn pants instead 
>> of a tennis skirt so you could better gauge where that top tube hits,  but 
>> it’s passable. 
>>
>> If anyone has Jonathan’s quandary about which Rivendell is better for you 
>> - step-over vs step-thru, email me and I’ll send the video your way.
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>>
>> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the 
>> decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through 
>> is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW 
>> propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to 
>> discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper 
>> angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. 
>> When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like 
>> difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it 
>> seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. 
>>
>>
>> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? 
>> Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying 
>> the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- 
>> it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a 
>> comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
>>
>> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? 
>> My dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could 
>> handle it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?
>>
>> Thank you both!
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA 
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Jonathan,
>>>
>>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 
>>> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher 
>>> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where 
>>> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the 
>>> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're 
>>> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and 
>>> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and 
>>> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over 
>>> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would 
>>> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>>
 Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call 
 up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
 actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
 for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
 will be sure to get one. 

 My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in 
 the San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He 
 realized his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he 
 has lost the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal 
 top 
 tube. He asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size 
 with 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jonny P]

Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my dad's 
bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My dad was 
totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go through that 
effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that if we 
are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident will 
fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up from 
his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the Clem L -- 
still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so excited 
to see.

The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm Clem 
L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that they had 
one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the coming week. 

I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, Elise, maybe I 
will get a platypus of my own. It will hold me over until my custom frame 
being built by a friend in SLC, UT is done this summer. 

Thank you all! I cannot wait to see wild Platypii here and in the wild. 

Jonathan P.
Seattle, WA

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:16:58 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I sent a video with stills to try to show the differences between Platy 
> and Clem. It was rather hastily shot, and I should have worn pants instead 
> of a tennis skirt so you could better gauge where that top tube hits,  but 
> it’s passable. 
>
> If anyone has Jonathan’s quandary about which Rivendell is better for you 
> - step-over vs step-thru, email me and I’ll send the video your way.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>
> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the 
> decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through 
> is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW 
> propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to 
> discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper 
> angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. 
> When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like 
> difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it 
> seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. 
>
>
> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? 
> Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying 
> the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- 
> it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a 
> comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
>
> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? 
> My dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could 
> handle it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?
>
> Thank you both!
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA 
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Jonathan,
>>
>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 
>> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher 
>> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where 
>> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the 
>> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're 
>> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and 
>> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and 
>> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over 
>> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would 
>> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion. 
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call 
>>> up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
>>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
>>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
>>> will be sure to get one. 
>>>
>>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in 
>>> the San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He 
>>> realized his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he 
>>> has lost the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top 
>>> tube. He asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 
>>> 700c wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista 
>>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with 
>>> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with 
>>> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 
>>> mile rides around 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

I sent a video with stills to try to show the differences between Platy and 
Clem. It was rather hastily shot, and I should have worn pants instead of a 
tennis skirt so you could better gauge where that top tube hits,  but it’s 
passable. 

If anyone has Jonathan’s quandary about which Rivendell is better for you - 
step-over vs step-thru, email me and I’ll send the video your way.
Leah

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
> 
> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the decision 
> making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through is a little 
> easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW propensity to not 
> really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to discern just what kind 
> of difference we are talking about here. The steeper angle down then the 
> swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. When I called and spoke 
> with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like difference in step through 
> height is negligible -- yet both of you make it seem it is more than that. A 
> little thinking to do, for certain. 
> 
> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? Perhaps 
> I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying the frame 
> for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- it makes the 
> price difference not matter much. I want him to have a comfortable bike 
> sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
> 
> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? My 
> dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could handle 
> it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?
> 
> Thank you both!
> 
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA 
> 
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> Jonathan,
>> 
>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 55cm 
>> Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher than 
>> where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where you 
>> lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the toptube 
>> to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're describing. I've 
>> also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and could easily step 
>> over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and look of the 
>> Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over ability is a 
>> priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would fit a Clem L 
>> very well in my opinion. 
>> 
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call up 
>>> Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
>>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
>>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
>>> will be sure to get one. 
>>> 
>>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in the 
>>> San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He realized 
>>> his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he has lost 
>>> the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top tube. He 
>>> asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 700c 
>>> wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista 
>>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with 
>>> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with 
>>> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 
>>> mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus 
>>> is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire 
>>> capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a 
>>> fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a 
>>> better position, and ease of getting on and off. 
>>> 
>>> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is pretty 
>>> effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? 
>>> 
>>> Jonathan P. 
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:
 I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your dad 
 know about his new bike?
 
 Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made her 
 account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly 
 retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, 
 won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my 
 tiny hometown, pop 200. 
 
 I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid 
 color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

According to James, Clems will be back in late April.

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:14:01 PM UTC-5 Jonny P wrote:

> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the 
> decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through 
> is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW 
> propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to 
> discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper 
> angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. 
> When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like 
> difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it 
> seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. 
>
> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? 
> Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying 
> the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- 
> it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a 
> comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
>
> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? 
> My dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could 
> handle it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?
>
> Thank you both!
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA 
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Jonathan,
>>
>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 
>> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher 
>> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where 
>> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the 
>> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're 
>> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and 
>> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and 
>> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over 
>> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would 
>> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion. 
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call 
>>> up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
>>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
>>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
>>> will be sure to get one. 
>>>
>>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in 
>>> the San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He 
>>> realized his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he 
>>> has lost the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top 
>>> tube. He asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 
>>> 700c wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista 
>>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with 
>>> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with 
>>> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 
>>> mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus 
>>> is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire 
>>> capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a 
>>> fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a 
>>> better position, and ease of getting on and off. 
>>>
>>> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is 
>>> pretty effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? 
>>>
>>> Jonathan P. 
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your 
 dad know about his new bike?

 Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made 
 her account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a 
 newly 
 retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, 
 won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my 
 tiny hometown, pop 200. 

 I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid 
 color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and 
 I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service 
 announcement. Something...

 On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be 
> awesome. 
>
> Emily
>
> On Mar 29, 2021, at 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

Jonathan, 

Of course you're right about availability. The Platy is NOW and I don't 
have a clue when Clems are back. Personally I would jump NOW and not worry 
too much about toptube height. Compared to what he's used to the Platy is 
LOW. 

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 6:02:16 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> "Step-over differences"
>
> This is all very subjective but for me the difference of a couple inches 
> is the difference between "that's super easy, I'm always doing it that way" 
> and "that's kind of uncomfortable, I'll probably avoid it." My situation is 
> a gradually creeping arthritis (it's a thing in my family) that's starting 
> to sneak into my lower back/hips area, and some days are stiffer than 
> others. Your dad may be more limber than I so this may not matter to him, I 
> just know that half the time I try the step-over on my custom (or Susie) I 
> end up kicking that dang tube. Ask me how I feel about scuffing the paint 
> on my bikes! 
>
> "Hilltopper"
>
> Yep, I used it on an Appaloosa and it worked fine but I'm not comfortable 
> recommeding on the slender forks Riv uses. I didn't keep mine on very long 
> because it made me nervous, I would only use rear hub or mid-drive on a 
> Rivbike now. 
>
> I hope this information helps, just be aware that your dad may not 
> experience ANY of this the way I've described it. 
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 5:14:01 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the 
>> decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through 
>> is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW 
>> propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to 
>> discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper 
>> angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. 
>> When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like 
>> difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it 
>> seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. 
>>
>> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? 
>> Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying 
>> the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- 
>> it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a 
>> comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
>>
>> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? 
>> My dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could 
>> handle it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?
>>
>> Thank you both!
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA 
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Jonathan,
>>>
>>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 
>>> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher 
>>> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where 
>>> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the 
>>> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're 
>>> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and 
>>> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and 
>>> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over 
>>> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would 
>>> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>>
 Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call 
 up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
 actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
 for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
 will be sure to get one. 

 My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in 
 the San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He 
 realized his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he 
 has lost the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal 
 top 
 tube. He asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size 
 with 
 700c wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena 
 Vista 
 Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with 
 Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with 
 the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 
 mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The 
 Platypus 
 is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire 
 capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

"Step-over differences"

This is all very subjective but for me the difference of a couple inches is 
the difference between "that's super easy, I'm always doing it that way" 
and "that's kind of uncomfortable, I'll probably avoid it." My situation is 
a gradually creeping arthritis (it's a thing in my family) that's starting 
to sneak into my lower back/hips area, and some days are stiffer than 
others. Your dad may be more limber than I so this may not matter to him, I 
just know that half the time I try the step-over on my custom (or Susie) I 
end up kicking that dang tube. Ask me how I feel about scuffing the paint 
on my bikes! 

"Hilltopper"

Yep, I used it on an Appaloosa and it worked fine but I'm not comfortable 
recommeding on the slender forks Riv uses. I didn't keep mine on very long 
because it made me nervous, I would only use rear hub or mid-drive on a 
Rivbike now. 

I hope this information helps, just be aware that your dad may not 
experience ANY of this the way I've described it. 

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 5:14:01 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:

> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the 
> decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through 
> is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW 
> propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to 
> discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper 
> angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. 
> When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like 
> difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it 
> seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. 
>
> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? 
> Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying 
> the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- 
> it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a 
> comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
>
> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? 
> My dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could 
> handle it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?
>
> Thank you both!
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA 
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Jonathan,
>>
>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 
>> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher 
>> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where 
>> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the 
>> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're 
>> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and 
>> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and 
>> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over 
>> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would 
>> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion. 
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call 
>>> up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
>>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
>>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
>>> will be sure to get one. 
>>>
>>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in 
>>> the San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He 
>>> realized his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he 
>>> has lost the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top 
>>> tube. He asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 
>>> 700c wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista 
>>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with 
>>> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with 
>>> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 
>>> mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus 
>>> is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire 
>>> capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a 
>>> fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a 
>>> better position, and ease of getting on and off. 
>>>
>>> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is 
>>> pretty effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? 
>>>
>>> Jonathan P. 
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Patrick Moore]

... I forgot to comment negatively on that very oddly constipated
radio/film/tv announcer accent that was common until the 1960s. Neither
upper class nor regional nor lower class; just "announcer." Very odd.
Comment made; h'over and h'out.

On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 6:42 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAUHxx3EcAY
>
> Start about 1:35 for the 80-somethings, and watch closely at about 1:54 to
> see one of these old men dismount by casually swinging his leg over his
> handlebar. He's far more supple than I at newly-66! And he had just ridden
> 101 miles to get to the meeting.
>
> I can do that but I have to be very, very careful lest I fall down.
>
> V I Lenin at about 2:00
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 4:36 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Jonathan,
>>
>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a
>> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher
>> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where
>> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the
>> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're
>> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and
>> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and
>> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over
>> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would
>> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion.
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call
>>> up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not
>>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is
>>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I
>>> will be sure to get one.
>>>
>>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in
>>> the San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He
>>> realized his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he
>>> has lost the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top
>>> tube. He asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with
>>> 700c wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista
>>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with
>>> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with
>>> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15
>>> mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus
>>> is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire
>>> capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a
>>> fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a
>>> better position, and ease of getting on and off.
>>>
>>> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is
>>> pretty effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg?
>>>
>>> Jonathan P.
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your
 dad know about his new bike?

 Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made
 her account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly
 retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot,
 won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my
 tiny hometown, pop 200.

 I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid
 color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and
 I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service
 announcement. Something...

 On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be
> awesome.
>
> Emily
>
> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P  wrote:
>
> I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden
> Pliers! I am so excited to see it and get it all built up!
>
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>>
>> It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!
>>
>> *Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at
>> 12pm PST. *You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools
>> joke. We're going to finish all the Sam orders before starting on the
>> Plattys so even though you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to 
>> get
>> to your order.
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> Just to stave off 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Patrick Moore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAUHxx3EcAY

Start about 1:35 for the 80-somethings, and watch closely at about 1:54 to
see one of these old men dismount by casually swinging his leg over his
handlebar. He's far more supple than I at newly-66! And he had just ridden
101 miles to get to the meeting.

I can do that but I have to be very, very careful lest I fall down.

V I Lenin at about 2:00


On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 4:36 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Jonathan,
>
> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a
> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher
> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where
> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the
> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're
> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and
> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and
> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over
> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would
> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion.
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call
>> up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not
>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is
>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I
>> will be sure to get one.
>>
>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in the
>> San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He realized
>> his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he has lost
>> the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top tube. He
>> asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 700c
>> wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista
>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with
>> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with
>> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15
>> mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus
>> is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire
>> capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a
>> fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a
>> better position, and ease of getting on and off.
>>
>> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is
>> pretty effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg?
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your
>>> dad know about his new bike?
>>>
>>> Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made
>>> her account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly
>>> retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot,
>>> won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my
>>> tiny hometown, pop 200.
>>>
>>> I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid
>>> color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and
>>> I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service
>>> announcement. Something...
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
 Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be
 awesome.

 Emily

 On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P  wrote:

 I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden
 Pliers! I am so excited to see it and get it all built up!


 Jonathan P.
 Seattle, WA

 On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

>
> It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!
>
> *Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm
> PST. *You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke.
> We're going to finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so
> even though you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your
> order.
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was
>> just a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through 
>> this
>> afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of 
>> when
>> we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell?
>>
>> Jonathan
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Jonathan, I have both bikes. I’ll send you a video of them side by side and 
will mount/dismount so you can see what we’re working with. Sound good? 
Anything else I can do??
L

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
> 
> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the decision 
> making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through is a little 
> easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW propensity to not 
> really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to discern just what kind 
> of difference we are talking about here. The steeper angle down then the 
> swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. When I called and spoke 
> with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like difference in step through 
> height is negligible -- yet both of you make it seem it is more than that. A 
> little thinking to do, for certain. 
> 
> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? Perhaps 
> I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying the frame 
> for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- it makes the 
> price difference not matter much. I want him to have a comfortable bike 
> sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
> 
> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? My 
> dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could handle 
> it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?
> 
> Thank you both!
> 
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA 
> 
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> Jonathan,
>> 
>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 55cm 
>> Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher than 
>> where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where you 
>> lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the toptube 
>> to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're describing. I've 
>> also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and could easily step 
>> over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and look of the 
>> Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over ability is a 
>> priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would fit a Clem L 
>> very well in my opinion. 
>> 
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call up 
>>> Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
>>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
>>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
>>> will be sure to get one. 
>>> 
>>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in the 
>>> San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He realized 
>>> his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he has lost 
>>> the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top tube. He 
>>> asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 700c 
>>> wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista 
>>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with 
>>> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with 
>>> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 
>>> mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus 
>>> is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire 
>>> capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a 
>>> fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a 
>>> better position, and ease of getting on and off. 
>>> 
>>> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is pretty 
>>> effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? 
>>> 
>>> Jonathan P. 
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:
 I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your dad 
 know about his new bike?
 
 Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made her 
 account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly 
 retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, 
 won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my 
 tiny hometown, pop 200. 
 
 I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid 
 color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and 
 I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service 
 announcement. Something...
 
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
> 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jonny P]

Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the decision 
making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through is a 
little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW propensity 
to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to discern just 
what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper angle down 
then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. When I 
called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like 
difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it 
seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. 

Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? 
Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying 
the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- 
it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a 
comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 

Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? My 
dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could handle 
it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?

Thank you both!

Jonathan P.
Seattle, WA 

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Jonathan,
>
> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 
> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher 
> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where 
> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the 
> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're 
> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and 
> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and 
> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over 
> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would 
> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion. 
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call 
>> up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
>> will be sure to get one. 
>>
>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in the 
>> San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He realized 
>> his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he has lost 
>> the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top tube. He 
>> asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 700c 
>> wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista 
>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with 
>> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with 
>> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 
>> mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus 
>> is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire 
>> capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a 
>> fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a 
>> better position, and ease of getting on and off. 
>>
>> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is 
>> pretty effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? 
>>
>> Jonathan P. 
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your 
>>> dad know about his new bike?
>>>
>>> Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made 
>>> her account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly 
>>> retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, 
>>> won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my 
>>> tiny hometown, pop 200. 
>>>
>>> I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid 
>>> color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and 
>>> I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service 
>>> announcement. Something...
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
 Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be 
 awesome. 

 Emily

 On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P  wrote:

 I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden 
 Pliers! I am so excited to see it and get it all built up!


 Jonathan P.
 Seattle, WA

 On Sunday, March 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Hi Jonathan, 
Yes, this story is ringing a bell. I have both bikes and for what your dad is 
wanting to do, the Platy is the perfect choice. I don’t have any wild leg 
swinging. I step through the bike to get on, and when I’m coming to a stop I 
raise one leg and step off the bike while seated. Does that make sense? I 
should make a video... Anyway, it’s no big deal UNLESS you’ve been used to a 
step thru (I was with my Clem) and then you are annoyed that you have to lift 
your leg just a little bit higher. There are scores of Cheviot owners who also 
might chime in here...
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 29, 2021, at 2:49 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
> 
> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call up 
> Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is for 
> me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I will be 
> sure to get one. 
> 
> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in the San 
> Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He realized his 
> bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he has lost the 
> mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top tube. He asked 
> me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 700c wheels. I 
> pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista Disc. He liked 
> the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with Soma in the past 
> so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with the Clem L at first 
> -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 mile rides around 
> vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus is a little lighter 
> and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire capability on the clem. 
> 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a fillet brazed stem all seem 
> like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a better position, and ease of 
> getting on and off. 
> 
> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is pretty 
> effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? 
> 
> Jonathan P. 
> Seattle, WA
> 
> 
> 
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>> I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your dad 
>> know about his new bike?
>> 
>> Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made her 
>> account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly 
>> retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, 
>> won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my tiny 
>> hometown, pop 200. 
>> 
>> I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid color 
>> and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and I are 
>> all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service 
>> announcement. Something...
>> 
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>> Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be awesome. 
>>> 
>>> Emily
>>> 
> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P  wrote:
> 
 I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden Pliers! I 
 am so excited to see it and get it all built up!
>>> 
 
 Jonathan P.
 Seattle, WA
 
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
> 
> It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!
> 
> Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm 
> PST. You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke. We're 
> going to finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so even 
> though you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your order.
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>> Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was 
>> just a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through 
>> this afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date 
>> of when we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell?
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> Seattle, WA
>> 
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
>>> size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as 
>>> the smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly 
>>> and awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>>> 
 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
 Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
 The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 
 Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike 
 will ship 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jonny P]

Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call up 
Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
will be sure to get one. 

My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in the 
San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He realized 
his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he has lost 
the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top tube. He 
asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 700c 
wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista 
Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with 
Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with 
the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 
mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus 
is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire 
capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a 
fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a 
better position, and ease of getting on and off. 

Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is pretty 
effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? 

Jonathan P. 
Seattle, WA



On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your dad 
> know about his new bike?
>
> Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made her 
> account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly 
> retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, 
> won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my 
> tiny hometown, pop 200. 
>
> I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid 
> color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and 
> I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service 
> announcement. Something...
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>
>> Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be 
>> awesome. 
>>
>> Emily
>>
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P  wrote:
>>
>> I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden Pliers! 
>> I am so excited to see it and get it all built up!
>>
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!
>>>
>>> *Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm 
>>> PST. *You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke. We're 
>>> going to finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so even 
>>> though you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your order.
>>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>>>
 Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was 
 just a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through 
 this 
 afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of 
 when 
 we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell?

 Jonathan
 Seattle, WA

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
> size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted 
>> there: The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the 
>> R90 
>> Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will 
>> ship with a different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB 
>> rear derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less 
>> money 
>> than the big name parts makers. 
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
>>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>>>
>>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson, <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The 
 demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are 
 off 
 in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your dad 
know about his new bike?

Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made her 
account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly 
retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, 
won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my 
tiny hometown, pop 200. 

I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid 
color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and 
I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service 
announcement. Something...

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be 
> awesome. 
>
> Emily
>
> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P  wrote:
>
> I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden Pliers! I 
> am so excited to see it and get it all built up!
>
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>>
>> It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!
>>
>> *Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm 
>> PST. *You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke. We're 
>> going to finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so even 
>> though you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your order.
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was 
>>> just a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through this 
>>> afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of when 
>>> we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell?
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
 As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
 size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
 smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
 awkward compared to the smaller sizes.

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:

> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
> The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 
> Sunrace 
> mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with 
> a 
> different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB rear 
> derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money 
> than 
> the big name parts makers. 
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>>
>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The 
>>> demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are 
>>> off 
>>> in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
>>> final 
>>> design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses 
>>> will 
>>> be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!
>>>
>>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are 
>>> going to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and 
>>> gets 
>>> more bodies on Platys sooner.
>>>
>>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. 
>>> So far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut 
>>> Creek?!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo

 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  
 wrote:

 


 Here’s a Platypus Easter twist

 Ray
 On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> Leah,
> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. 
> I'm too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
> Doug
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This 
>> bike and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Emily Guise]

Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be awesome. 

Emily

> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P  wrote:
> 
> I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden Pliers! I am 
> so excited to see it and get it all built up!
> 
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
> 
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>> 
>> It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!
>> 
>> Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm PST. 
>> You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke. We're going to 
>> finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so even though 
>> you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your order.
>>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>>> Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was just 
>>> a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through this 
>>> afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of when 
>>> we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell?
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> 
 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
 As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that size 
 and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
 smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
 awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
 
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
> The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 
> Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will 
> ship with a different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB 
> rear derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less 
> money than the big name parts makers. 
> 
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>> 
>>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
>>> wrote:
>>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The demos 
>>> prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are off in 
>>> the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
>>> final design. So, the container must have arrived and that means 
>>> Platypuses will be dotting the American countryside in the next few 
>>> weeks!
>>> 
>>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are going 
>>> to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and gets 
>>> more bodies on Platys sooner.
>>> 
>>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. So 
>>> far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
 So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!
 
> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
> 
>> 
>> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>> 
>> Ray
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>> Leah,
>>> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. 
>>> I'm too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
>>> Doug
>>> 
 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:
 Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike 
 and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. 
 Ever. 
 
 But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new 
 Platys for us to admire!
 
 Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. 
 
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
> Leah,
> 
> That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments!
> 
> You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what front 
> derailer is on there? Thank you!
> 
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
> 
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans wrote:
>> I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a Witness 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jonny P]

I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden Pliers! I 
am so excited to see it and get it all built up!

Jonathan P.
Seattle, WA

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

>
> It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!
>
> *Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm 
> PST. *You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke. We're 
> going to finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so even 
> though you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your order.
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was 
>> just a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through this 
>> afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of when 
>> we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell?
>>
>> Jonathan
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>
>>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
>>> size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
>>> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
>>> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>>>
 Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
 The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 Sunrace 
 mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with 
 a 
 different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB rear 
 derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money than 
 the big name parts makers. 

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>
> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
> wrote:
>
>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The 
>> demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are 
>> off 
>> in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
>> final 
>> design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses 
>> will 
>> be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!
>>
>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are 
>> going to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and 
>> gets 
>> more bodies on Platys sooner.
>>
>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. 
>> So far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!
>>
>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>>>
>>> Ray
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Leah,
 I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. 
 I'm too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
 Doug

 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike 
> and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. Ever. 
>
> But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new 
> Platys for us to admire!
>
> Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. 
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>
>> Leah,
>>
>> That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments!
>>
>> You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what front 
>> derailer is on there? Thank you!
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans wrote:
>>
>>> I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a Witness 
>>> Protection Program now.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 9:08 PM Joe Bernard  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 That bike with all its glorious teal and rose and Brooks and 
 bags is - and there is no higher compliment from me - 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!

*Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm 
PST. *You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke. We're 
going to finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so even 
though you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your order.
On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:

> Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was just 
> a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through this 
> afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of when 
> we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell?
>
> Jonathan
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>
>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
>> size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
>> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
>> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>>
>>> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
>>> The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 Sunrace 
>>> mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with a 
>>> different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB rear 
>>> derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money than 
>>> the big name parts makers. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
 size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c

 On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
 wrote:

> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The 
> demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are 
> off 
> in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
> final 
> design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses 
> will 
> be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!
>
> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are going 
> to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and gets more 
> bodies on Platys sooner.
>
> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. So 
> far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!
>
> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>>
>> Ray
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Leah,
>>> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. I'm 
>>> too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike 
 and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. Ever. 

 But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new 
 Platys for us to admire!

 Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. 

 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:

> Leah,
>
> That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments!
>
> You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what front 
> derailer is on there? Thank you!
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans wrote:
>
>> I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a Witness 
>> Protection Program now.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 9:08 PM Joe Bernard  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That bike with all its glorious teal and rose and Brooks and 
>>> bags is - and there is no higher compliment from me - CRAZY. As the 
>>> kids 
>>> would say, it's ridiculous! Excellent work all around from Leah the 
>>> parts/paint picker, Analog Cycles for the parts/ano, and the pro 
>>> shop that 
>>> put it all together. And Grant/Riv for the bike! 
>>>
>>> Joe "I have a custom and I'm still jealous of Leah's 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

I think Riv’s objection to metal is in regards to safety. No metal fender comes 
with breakaway tabs. The SKS have breakaway tabs for the front wheel, BUT 
Portland Design Works makes breakaways for metal fenders, which answers the 
safety question. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:07 AM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
> 
> SKS are made form recycled plastics I believe?
> 
> I actually felt the same way until I owned a pair, their mounting system is 
> well thought out (albeit in German) and they are a lot more forgiving to 
> knocks than aluminum.
> 
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>> Being honest, I'm surprised that the SKS plastic fenders are still being 
>> sold by Rivendell (and are a go-to of Riv owners) now that there is such a 
>> wide variety of good quality aluminum fenders nowadays. The SKS are 
>> definitely the best of the bunch for plastic but don't hold a candle to 
>> aluminum for looks, rigidity, and longevity. Plus, less plastic! 
>> 
>> Simworks Smooth 62 should fit the Platy and allow for 48c tires, based on 
>> published clearances 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

SKS are made form recycled plastics I believe?

I actually felt the same way until I owned a pair, their mounting system is 
well thought out (albeit in German) and they are a lot more forgiving to 
knocks than aluminum.

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Being honest, I'm surprised that the SKS plastic fenders are still being 
> sold by Rivendell (and are a go-to of Riv owners) now that there is such a 
> wide variety of good quality aluminum fenders nowadays. The SKS are 
> definitely the best of the bunch for plastic but don't hold a candle to 
> aluminum for looks, rigidity, and longevity. Plus, less plastic! 
>
> Simworks Smooth 62 should fit the Platy and allow for 48c tires, based on 
> published clearances 
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jason Fuller]

Being honest, I'm surprised that the SKS plastic fenders are still being 
sold by Rivendell (and are a go-to of Riv owners) now that there is such a 
wide variety of good quality aluminum fenders nowadays. The SKS are 
definitely the best of the bunch for plastic but don't hold a candle to 
aluminum for looks, rigidity, and longevity. Plus, less plastic! 

Simworks Smooth 62 should fit the Platy and allow for 48c tires, based on 
published clearances 


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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jonny P]

Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was just 
a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through this 
afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of when 
we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell?

Jonathan
Seattle, WA

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that size 
> and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
>> The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 Sunrace 
>> mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with a 
>> different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB rear 
>> derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money than 
>> the big name parts makers. 
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
>>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>>>
>>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The demos 
 prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are off in 
 the 
 wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the final 
 design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses will 
 be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!

 Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are going 
 to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and gets more 
 bodies on Platys sooner.

 I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. So 
 far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:


 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!

 On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>
> Ray
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Leah,
>> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. I'm 
>> too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike 
>>> and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. Ever. 
>>>
>>> But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new 
>>> Platys for us to admire!
>>>
>>> Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>>>
 Leah,

 That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments!

 You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what front 
 derailer is on there? Thank you!

 Best,
 Rich in ATL

 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans wrote:

> I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a Witness 
> Protection Program now.
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 9:08 PM Joe Bernard  
> wrote:
>
>> That bike with all its glorious teal and rose and Brooks and bags 
>> is - and there is no higher compliment from me - CRAZY. As the kids 
>> would 
>> say, it's ridiculous! Excellent work all around from Leah the 
>> parts/paint 
>> picker, Analog Cycles for the parts/ano, and the pro shop that put 
>> it all 
>> together. And Grant/Riv for the bike! 
>>
>> Joe "I have a custom and I'm still jealous of Leah's bike" Bernard
>>
>> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 7:53:12 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> (This message should have preceded my photos, but it was too 
>>> large and was not sent. Since the file is too large, you can see it 
>>> on 
>>> Instagram or the Facebook groups if you like.)
>>>
>>> Well, while we wait for the ship to be unloaded (MONDAY! 拾), I 
>>> made a video of my Platy because...IT’S FINALLY 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

I forgot to mention that these are 700c tires.

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 10:22:13 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> On my non-Riv bike, I have Schwalbe Marathon 38mm.  Since I don't ride in 
> the rain, minimal fender protection is OK with me, so I put on the 45s, I 
> believe.  It is one that the recommended max tire width is 38.  From the 
> top, you can see that it is the same width of the tire, but from the side, 
> you can see that there's only a bit of extra coverage.  I hope this helps 
> with your decision.
>
> Roberta
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 9:57:20 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Sorry - I meant specifically for the Platypus with 38mm or thereabouts. I 
>> think the P50 but want to be sure when I do the Amazon swap.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 8:54:22 AM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>>
>>> Phil,
>>>
>>> I have P45s paired with 650b 38mm Gravel Kings
>>> on my Hillborne. Works fine but of course 
>>> P50s would give more margin. 
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rich in ATL
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 28, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Roberta  wrote:
>>>
>>> Fenders are practical!  What width tires?  
>>>
>>>
>>> This is from Riv’s website. I hope this helps. It doesn’t specifically 
>>> say “chromoplast.”
>>>
>>> For 700c tires skinner than 28mm: P35
>>>
>>> For 700c tires 28mm to 38mm: P45 Longboards 
>>>  if you ride up to a 700x38 
>>> size.
>>>
>>> For 650b or 700c tires up to 45mm: P50 
>>>  
>>>
>>> For 26" tires up to 2" :  P55 
>>> .
>>>
>>> For any 700c, 650b, or 26-inch tires up to 2.35" (65mm):  B65 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 9:09:31 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Any ideas what SKS Chromoplastic fender set will fit the 650b models? I 
 have a P45 I need to return to Amazon.
 On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 12:31:01 PM UTC-5 David Person wrote:

> Perhaps the paint will have fluorescence properties.  This from the 
> latest issue of National Wildlife Magazine.
>
> [image: Platypus.jpeg]
>
> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 9:23:15 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I hear ya, Kate, I was all about that shocking LimeOlive when I first 
>> saw it but I suspect it wouldn't age well with me. If I got this frame 
>> it 
>> would be Mermaid. 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 6:08:54 AM UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh my my head was filled with Platy dreams all night!!!  I can't 
>>> wait.  I put it out of my head and forced myself not to think about it 
>>> until next month but what?  Here they are.  So close!!!  
>>> I originally attached myself to the 50 lime/olive but that mermaid 
>>> is calling me like a siren in the distance.  Hm, I shall sleep 
>>> again 
>>> tonight and see who calls. 
>>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 9:42:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Haha, I knew you would catch the spelling. And you're right, I 
 DON'T STAND A CHANCE! 

 Joe "hmm, maybe a 2-speed project to see how light a Platy can get 
 would be fun 樂" Bernard

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 6:31:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Yes, but who wants to tell Will he’s spelling it wrong? It’s PLATY!
>
> I’m so excited for the Platy People. The colors look beautiful; 
> you will love the bike. There’s magic in the Riv mixtes. Joe, you 
> don’t 
> stand a chance.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Joe Bernard  
> wrote:
>
> Check your emails, kids. In a stunning turn of events I've never 
> seen in the history of RBW - and I've been here from the beginning - 
> frames 
> are a month early! 
>
> PS. Note that Will now calls Platypuses "Plattys", which is what 
> Leah Bicycle Belle Ding Ding has been calling them for months. It's 
> the new 
> catchphrase that's sweeping the nation! 
>
> Joe "doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike doesn't need 
> a new bike" Bernard
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>
>> Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
>> https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
>> [image: 9 - bNrYfpz.jpg]
>> On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>
>>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see 
>>> that size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely 
>>> proportioned as 
>>> the smaller ones. I always 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

Sorry - I meant specifically for the Platypus with 38mm or thereabouts. I 
think the P50 but want to be sure when I do the Amazon swap.

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 8:54:22 AM UTC-5 RichS wrote:

> Phil,
>
> I have P45s paired with 650b 38mm Gravel Kings
> on my Hillborne. Works fine but of course 
> P50s would give more margin. 
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 28, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Roberta  wrote:
>
> Fenders are practical!  What width tires?  
>
>
> This is from Riv’s website. I hope this helps. It doesn’t specifically say 
> “chromoplast.”
>
> For 700c tires skinner than 28mm: P35
>
> For 700c tires 28mm to 38mm: P45 Longboards 
>  if you ride up to a 700x38 
> size.
>
> For 650b or 700c tires up to 45mm: P50 
>  
>
> For 26" tires up to 2" :  P55 
> .
>
> For any 700c, 650b, or 26-inch tires up to 2.35" (65mm):  B65 
> 
>
>
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 9:09:31 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Any ideas what SKS Chromoplastic fender set will fit the 650b models? I 
>> have a P45 I need to return to Amazon.
>> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 12:31:01 PM UTC-5 David Person wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps the paint will have fluorescence properties.  This from the 
>>> latest issue of National Wildlife Magazine.
>>>
>>> [image: Platypus.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 9:23:15 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 I hear ya, Kate, I was all about that shocking LimeOlive when I first 
 saw it but I suspect it wouldn't age well with me. If I got this frame it 
 would be Mermaid. 


 On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 6:08:54 AM UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:

> Oh my my head was filled with Platy dreams all night!!!  I can't 
> wait.  I put it out of my head and forced myself not to think about it 
> until next month but what?  Here they are.  So close!!!  
> I originally attached myself to the 50 lime/olive but that mermaid is 
> calling me like a siren in the distance.  Hm, I shall sleep again 
> tonight and see who calls. 
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 9:42:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Haha, I knew you would catch the spelling. And you're right, I DON'T 
>> STAND A CHANCE! 
>>
>> Joe "hmm, maybe a 2-speed project to see how light a Platy can get 
>> would be fun 樂" Bernard
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 6:31:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, but who wants to tell Will he’s spelling it wrong? It’s PLATY!
>>>
>>> I’m so excited for the Platy People. The colors look beautiful; you 
>>> will love the bike. There’s magic in the Riv mixtes. Joe, you don’t 
>>> stand a 
>>> chance.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Check your emails, kids. In a stunning turn of events I've never 
>>> seen in the history of RBW - and I've been here from the beginning - 
>>> frames 
>>> are a month early! 
>>>
>>> PS. Note that Will now calls Platypuses "Plattys", which is what 
>>> Leah Bicycle Belle Ding Ding has been calling them for months. It's the 
>>> new 
>>> catchphrase that's sweeping the nation! 
>>>
>>> Joe "doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a 
>>> new bike" Bernard
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>>
 Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
 https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
 [image: 9 - bNrYfpz.jpg]
 On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see 
> that size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely 
> proportioned as 
> the smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly 
> and 
> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted 
>> there: The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but 
>> the R90 
>> Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike 
>> will 
>> ship with a different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable 
>> MTB 
>> rear derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less 
>> money 
>> than the big name parts makers. 
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[R Shannon]

Phil,

I have P45s paired with 650b 38mm Gravel Kings
on my Hillborne. Works fine but of course 
P50s would give more margin. 

Best,
Rich in ATL

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> Fenders are practical!  What width tires?  
> 
> This is from Riv’s website. I hope this helps. It doesn’t specifically say 
> “chromoplast.”
> For 700c tires skinner than 28mm: P35
> 
> For 700c tires 28mm to 38mm: P45 Longboards if you ride up to a 700x38 size.
> 
> For 650b or 700c tires up to 45mm: P50 
> 
> For 26" tires up to 2" :  P55.
> 
> For any 700c, 650b, or 26-inch tires up to 2.35" (65mm):  B65
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 9:09:31 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Any ideas what SKS Chromoplastic fender set will fit the 650b models? I have 
>> a P45 I need to return to Amazon.
>>> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 12:31:01 PM UTC-5 David Person wrote:
>>> Perhaps the paint will have fluorescence properties.  This from the latest 
>>> issue of National Wildlife Magazine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 9:23:15 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
 I hear ya, Kate, I was all about that shocking LimeOlive when I first saw 
 it but I suspect it wouldn't age well with me. If I got this frame it 
 would be Mermaid. 
 
 
> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 6:08:54 AM UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Oh my my head was filled with Platy dreams all night!!!  I can't 
> wait.  I put it out of my head and forced myself not to think about it 
> until next month but what?  Here they are.  So close!!!  
> I originally attached myself to the 50 lime/olive but that mermaid is 
> calling me like a siren in the distance.  Hm, I shall sleep again 
> tonight and see who calls. 
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
> 
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 9:42:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> Haha, I knew you would catch the spelling. And you're right, I DON'T 
>> STAND A CHANCE! 
>> 
>> Joe "hmm, maybe a 2-speed project to see how light a Platy can get would 
>> be fun 樂" Bernard
>> 
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 6:31:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> Yes, but who wants to tell Will he’s spelling it wrong? It’s PLATY!
>>> 
>>> I’m so excited for the Platy People. The colors look beautiful; you 
>>> will love the bike. There’s magic in the Riv mixtes. Joe, you don’t 
>>> stand a chance.
>>> Leah
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
 Check your emails, kids. In a stunning turn of events I've never seen 
 in the history of RBW - and I've been here from the beginning - frames 
 are a month early! 
 
 PS. Note that Will now calls Platypuses "Plattys", which is what Leah 
 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding has been calling them for months. It's the new 
 catchphrase that's sweeping the nation! 
 
 Joe "doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a 
 new bike" Bernard
 
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>> Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
>> https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
>> 
>>> On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see 
>>> that size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely 
>>> proportioned as the smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot 
>>> looked so gangly and awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>>> 
 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
 Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted 
 there: The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but 
 the R90 Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, 
 the bike will ship with a different rear unit. Sunrace does make 
 an 11-34  capable MTB rear derailleur. Microshift is another 
 source of nice parts for less money than the big name parts 
 makers. 
 
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the 
> same size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
> 
>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson, 
>>  wrote:
>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. 
>> The demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I 
>> think) are off in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) 
>> and they were not the final design. So, the container must have 
>> arrived and that 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

Fenders are practical!  What width tires?  

This is from Riv’s website. I hope this helps. It doesn’t specifically say 
“chromoplast.”

For 700c tires skinner than 28mm: P35

For 700c tires 28mm to 38mm: P45 Longboards 
 if you ride up to a 700x38 size.

For 650b or 700c tires up to 45mm: P50 
 

For 26" tires up to 2" :  P55 .

For any 700c, 650b, or 26-inch tires up to 2.35" (65mm):  B65 



On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 9:09:31 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Any ideas what SKS Chromoplastic fender set will fit the 650b models? I 
> have a P45 I need to return to Amazon.
> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 12:31:01 PM UTC-5 David Person wrote:
>
>> Perhaps the paint will have fluorescence properties.  This from the 
>> latest issue of National Wildlife Magazine.
>>
>> [image: Platypus.jpeg]
>>
>> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 9:23:15 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I hear ya, Kate, I was all about that shocking LimeOlive when I first 
>>> saw it but I suspect it wouldn't age well with me. If I got this frame it 
>>> would be Mermaid. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 6:08:54 AM UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Oh my my head was filled with Platy dreams all night!!!  I can't 
 wait.  I put it out of my head and forced myself not to think about it 
 until next month but what?  Here they are.  So close!!!  
 I originally attached myself to the 50 lime/olive but that mermaid is 
 calling me like a siren in the distance.  Hm, I shall sleep again 
 tonight and see who calls. 
 Kate-Trenton, NJ

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 9:42:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Haha, I knew you would catch the spelling. And you're right, I DON'T 
> STAND A CHANCE! 
>
> Joe "hmm, maybe a 2-speed project to see how light a Platy can get 
> would be fun 樂" Bernard
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 6:31:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, but who wants to tell Will he’s spelling it wrong? It’s PLATY!
>>
>> I’m so excited for the Platy People. The colors look beautiful; you 
>> will love the bike. There’s magic in the Riv mixtes. Joe, you don’t 
>> stand a 
>> chance.
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Check your emails, kids. In a stunning turn of events I've never 
>> seen in the history of RBW - and I've been here from the beginning - 
>> frames 
>> are a month early! 
>>
>> PS. Note that Will now calls Platypuses "Plattys", which is what Leah 
>> Bicycle Belle Ding Ding has been calling them for months. It's the new 
>> catchphrase that's sweeping the nation! 
>>
>> Joe "doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a 
>> new bike" Bernard
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>
>>> Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
>>> https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
>>> [image: 9 - bNrYfpz.jpg]
>>> On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
 As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see 
 that size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely 
 proportioned as 
 the smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly 
 and 
 awkward compared to the smaller sizes.

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:

> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted 
> there: The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the 
> R90 
> Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike 
> will 
> ship with a different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable 
> MTB 
> rear derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less 
> money 
> than the big name parts makers. 
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the 
>> same size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>>
>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson, <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. 
>>> The demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I 
>>> think) are 
>>> off in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were 
>>> not the 
>>> final design. So, the container must have arrived and that means 
>>> Platypuses 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

Any ideas what SKS Chromoplastic fender set will fit the 650b models? I 
have a P45 I need to return to Amazon.
On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 12:31:01 PM UTC-5 David Person wrote:

> Perhaps the paint will have fluorescence properties.  This from the latest 
> issue of National Wildlife Magazine.
>
> [image: Platypus.jpeg]
>
> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 9:23:15 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I hear ya, Kate, I was all about that shocking LimeOlive when I first saw 
>> it but I suspect it wouldn't age well with me. If I got this frame it would 
>> be Mermaid. 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 6:08:54 AM UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Oh my my head was filled with Platy dreams all night!!!  I can't 
>>> wait.  I put it out of my head and forced myself not to think about it 
>>> until next month but what?  Here they are.  So close!!!  
>>> I originally attached myself to the 50 lime/olive but that mermaid is 
>>> calling me like a siren in the distance.  Hm, I shall sleep again 
>>> tonight and see who calls. 
>>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 9:42:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Haha, I knew you would catch the spelling. And you're right, I DON'T 
 STAND A CHANCE! 

 Joe "hmm, maybe a 2-speed project to see how light a Platy can get 
 would be fun 樂" Bernard

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 6:31:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Yes, but who wants to tell Will he’s spelling it wrong? It’s PLATY!
>
> I’m so excited for the Platy People. The colors look beautiful; you 
> will love the bike. There’s magic in the Riv mixtes. Joe, you don’t stand 
> a 
> chance.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Check your emails, kids. In a stunning turn of events I've never seen 
> in the history of RBW - and I've been here from the beginning - frames 
> are 
> a month early! 
>
> PS. Note that Will now calls Platypuses "Plattys", which is what Leah 
> Bicycle Belle Ding Ding has been calling them for months. It's the new 
> catchphrase that's sweeping the nation! 
>
> Joe "doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a 
> new bike" Bernard
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>
>> Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
>> https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
>> [image: 9 - bNrYfpz.jpg]
>> On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>
>>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see 
>>> that size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned 
>>> as 
>>> the smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly 
>>> and 
>>> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>>>
 Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted 
 there: The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the 
 R90 
 Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike 
 will 
 ship with a different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable 
 MTB 
 rear derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less 
 money 
 than the big name parts makers. 

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the 
> same size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>
> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson, <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The 
>> demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) 
>> are off 
>> in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not 
>> the final 
>> design. So, the container must have arrived and that means 
>> Platypuses will 
>> be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!
>>
>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are 
>> going to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space 
>> and gets 
>> more bodies on Platys sooner.
>>
>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other 
>> color. So far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut 
>> Creek?!
>>
>> On 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

I hear ya, Kate, I was all about that shocking LimeOlive when I first saw 
it but I suspect it wouldn't age well with me. If I got this frame it would 
be Mermaid. 


On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 6:08:54 AM UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Oh my my head was filled with Platy dreams all night!!!  I can't 
> wait.  I put it out of my head and forced myself not to think about it 
> until next month but what?  Here they are.  So close!!!  
> I originally attached myself to the 50 lime/olive but that mermaid is 
> calling me like a siren in the distance.  Hm, I shall sleep again 
> tonight and see who calls. 
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 9:42:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Haha, I knew you would catch the spelling. And you're right, I DON'T 
>> STAND A CHANCE! 
>>
>> Joe "hmm, maybe a 2-speed project to see how light a Platy can get would 
>> be fun 樂" Bernard
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 6:31:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, but who wants to tell Will he’s spelling it wrong? It’s PLATY!
>>>
>>> I’m so excited for the Platy People. The colors look beautiful; you will 
>>> love the bike. There’s magic in the Riv mixtes. Joe, you don’t stand a 
>>> chance.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Check your emails, kids. In a stunning turn of events I've never seen 
>>> in the history of RBW - and I've been here from the beginning - frames are 
>>> a month early! 
>>>
>>> PS. Note that Will now calls Platypuses "Plattys", which is what Leah 
>>> Bicycle Belle Ding Ding has been calling them for months. It's the new 
>>> catchphrase that's sweeping the nation! 
>>>
>>> Joe "doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new 
>>> bike" Bernard
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>>
 Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
 https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
 [image: 9 - bNrYfpz.jpg]
 On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
> size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted 
>> there: The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the 
>> R90 
>> Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will 
>> ship with a different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB 
>> rear derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less 
>> money 
>> than the big name parts makers. 
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
>>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>>>
>>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson, <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The 
 demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are 
 off 
 in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
 final 
 design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses 
 will 
 be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!

 Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are 
 going to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and 
 gets 
 more bodies on Platys sooner.

 I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. 
 So far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:


 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut 
 Creek?!

 On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  
> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>
> Ray
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Leah,
>> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. 
>> I'm too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
>> Doug
>>

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

I sent a confirmation email to James & Grant last night...I'm in!



On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 8:08:54 AM UTC-5 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Oh my my head was filled with Platy dreams all night!!!  I can't 
> wait.  I put it out of my head and forced myself not to think about it 
> until next month but what?  Here they are.  So close!!!  
> I originally attached myself to the 50 lime/olive but that mermaid is 
> calling me like a siren in the distance.  Hm, I shall sleep again 
> tonight and see who calls. 
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 9:42:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Haha, I knew you would catch the spelling. And you're right, I DON'T 
>> STAND A CHANCE! 
>>
>> Joe "hmm, maybe a 2-speed project to see how light a Platy can get would 
>> be fun 樂" Bernard
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 6:31:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, but who wants to tell Will he’s spelling it wrong? It’s PLATY!
>>>
>>> I’m so excited for the Platy People. The colors look beautiful; you will 
>>> love the bike. There’s magic in the Riv mixtes. Joe, you don’t stand a 
>>> chance.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Check your emails, kids. In a stunning turn of events I've never seen 
>>> in the history of RBW - and I've been here from the beginning - frames are 
>>> a month early! 
>>>
>>> PS. Note that Will now calls Platypuses "Plattys", which is what Leah 
>>> Bicycle Belle Ding Ding has been calling them for months. It's the new 
>>> catchphrase that's sweeping the nation! 
>>>
>>> Joe "doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new 
>>> bike" Bernard
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>>
 Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
 https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
 [image: 9 - bNrYfpz.jpg]
 On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
> size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted 
>> there: The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the 
>> R90 
>> Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will 
>> ship with a different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB 
>> rear derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less 
>> money 
>> than the big name parts makers. 
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
>>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>>>
>>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson, <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The 
 demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are 
 off 
 in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
 final 
 design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses 
 will 
 be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!

 Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are 
 going to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and 
 gets 
 more bodies on Platys sooner.

 I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. 
 So far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:


 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut 
 Creek?!

 On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  
> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>
> Ray
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Leah,
>> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. 
>> I'm too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Oh my my head was filled with Platy dreams all night!!!  I can't wait.  
I put it out of my head and forced myself not to think about it until next 
month but what?  Here they are.  So close!!!  
I originally attached myself to the 50 lime/olive but that mermaid is 
calling me like a siren in the distance.  Hm, I shall sleep again 
tonight and see who calls. 
Kate-Trenton, NJ

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 9:42:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Haha, I knew you would catch the spelling. And you're right, I DON'T STAND 
> A CHANCE! 
>
> Joe "hmm, maybe a 2-speed project to see how light a Platy can get would 
> be fun 樂" Bernard
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 6:31:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, but who wants to tell Will he’s spelling it wrong? It’s PLATY!
>>
>> I’m so excited for the Platy People. The colors look beautiful; you will 
>> love the bike. There’s magic in the Riv mixtes. Joe, you don’t stand a 
>> chance.
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Check your emails, kids. In a stunning turn of events I've never seen in 
>> the history of RBW - and I've been here from the beginning - frames are a 
>> month early! 
>>
>> PS. Note that Will now calls Platypuses "Plattys", which is what Leah 
>> Bicycle Belle Ding Ding has been calling them for months. It's the new 
>> catchphrase that's sweeping the nation! 
>>
>> Joe "doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new 
>> bike" Bernard
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>
>>> Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
>>> https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
>>> [image: 9 - bNrYfpz.jpg]
>>> On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
 As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
 size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
 smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
 awkward compared to the smaller sizes.

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:

> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
> The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 
> Sunrace 
> mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with 
> a 
> different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB rear 
> derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money 
> than 
> the big name parts makers. 
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>>
>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The 
>>> demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are 
>>> off 
>>> in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
>>> final 
>>> design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses 
>>> will 
>>> be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!
>>>
>>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are 
>>> going to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and 
>>> gets 
>>> more bodies on Platys sooner.
>>>
>>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. 
>>> So far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut 
>>> Creek?!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo

 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  
 wrote:

 


 Here’s a Platypus Easter twist

 Ray
 On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> Leah,
> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. 
> I'm too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
> Doug
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This 
>> bike and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. 
>> Ever. 
>>
>> But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new 
>> Platys 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

Haha, I knew you would catch the spelling. And you're right, I DON'T STAND 
A CHANCE! 

Joe "hmm, maybe a 2-speed project to see how light a Platy can get would be 
fun 樂" Bernard

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 6:31:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Yes, but who wants to tell Will he’s spelling it wrong? It’s PLATY!
>
> I’m so excited for the Platy People. The colors look beautiful; you will 
> love the bike. There’s magic in the Riv mixtes. Joe, you don’t stand a 
> chance.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Check your emails, kids. In a stunning turn of events I've never seen in 
> the history of RBW - and I've been here from the beginning - frames are a 
> month early! 
>
> PS. Note that Will now calls Platypuses "Plattys", which is what Leah 
> Bicycle Belle Ding Ding has been calling them for months. It's the new 
> catchphrase that's sweeping the nation! 
>
> Joe "doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new 
> bike" Bernard
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>
>> Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
>> https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
>> [image: 9 - bNrYfpz.jpg]
>> On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>
>>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
>>> size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
>>> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
>>> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>>>
 Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
 The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 Sunrace 
 mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with 
 a 
 different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB rear 
 derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money than 
 the big name parts makers. 

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>
> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
> wrote:
>
>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The 
>> demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are 
>> off 
>> in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
>> final 
>> design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses 
>> will 
>> be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!
>>
>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are 
>> going to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and 
>> gets 
>> more bodies on Platys sooner.
>>
>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. 
>> So far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!
>>
>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>>>
>>> Ray
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Leah,
 I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. 
 I'm too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
 Doug

 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike 
> and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. Ever. 
>
> But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new 
> Platys for us to admire!
>
> Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. 
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>
>> Leah,
>>
>> That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments!
>>
>> You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what front 
>> derailer is on there? Thank you!
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans wrote:
>>
>>> I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a Witness 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Emily Guise]

Leah: Greg has chosen to go down the single speed route instead and is 
currently building up a surly cross check, so for now we only have one matching 
set of bikes. :)

Pancake: some lovely photos the Cheviot! I think it is something about the head 
tube length that makes it look extra long. But that orange is just so dang 
gorgeous. 

Joe: I also said I wasn’t going to get a new bike, and then the stimulus check 
came thru and the photos of Platypuses started going around. I was helpless in 
the face of such stunning bicycle beauty. 

John: can’t wait until Golden Pliers gets their shipment! What an exciting day 
that’ll be, and obviously my cry for a photo of a 60cm lime olive frame was 
heard, so thank you for alerting the Riv-Powers-That-Be.

Emily

> On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but who wants to tell Will he’s spelling it wrong? It’s PLATY!
> 
> I’m so excited for the Platy People. The colors look beautiful; you will love 
> the bike. There’s magic in the Riv mixtes. Joe, you don’t stand a chance.
> Leah
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>> 
>> Check your emails, kids. In a stunning turn of events I've never seen in 
>> the history of RBW - and I've been here from the beginning - frames are a 
>> month early! 
>> 
>> PS. Note that Will now calls Platypuses "Plattys", which is what Leah 
>> Bicycle Belle Ding Ding has been calling them for months. It's the new 
>> catchphrase that's sweeping the nation! 
>> 
>> Joe "doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new 
>> bike" Bernard
>> 
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>> Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
>>> https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
>>> 
 On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
 As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that size 
 and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
 smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
 awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
 
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
> The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 
> Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will 
> ship with a different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB 
> rear derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less 
> money than the big name parts makers. 
> 
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>> 
>>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
>>> wrote:
>>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The demos 
>>> prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are off in 
>>> the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
>>> final design. So, the container must have arrived and that means 
>>> Platypuses will be dotting the American countryside in the next few 
>>> weeks!
>>> 
>>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are going 
>>> to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and gets 
>>> more bodies on Platys sooner.
>>> 
>>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. So 
>>> far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
 So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!
 
> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
> 
>> 
>> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>> 
>> Ray
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>> Leah,
>>> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. 
>>> I'm too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
>>> Doug
>>> 
 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:
 Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike 
 and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. 
 Ever. 
 
 But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new 
 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Yes, but who wants to tell Will he’s spelling it wrong? It’s PLATY!

I’m so excited for the Platy People. The colors look beautiful; you will love 
the bike. There’s magic in the Riv mixtes. Joe, you don’t stand a chance.
Leah

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Check your emails, kids. In a stunning turn of events I've never seen in the 
> history of RBW - and I've been here from the beginning - frames are a month 
> early! 
> 
> PS. Note that Will now calls Platypuses "Plattys", which is what Leah Bicycle 
> Belle Ding Ding has been calling them for months. It's the new catchphrase 
> that's sweeping the nation! 
> 
> Joe "doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike" 
> Bernard
> 
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>> Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
>> https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
>> 
>>> On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that size 
>>> and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
>>> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
>>> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>>> 
 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
 Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: The 
 rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 Sunrace 
 mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with 
 a different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB rear 
 derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money than 
 the big name parts makers. 
 
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same size 
> if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
> 
>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
>> wrote:
>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The demos 
>> prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are off in 
>> the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the final 
>> design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses 
>> will be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!
>> 
>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are going 
>> to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and gets 
>> more bodies on Platys sooner.
>> 
>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. So 
>> far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch 
  wrote:
 
>>> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!
>>> 
 On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:
 https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
>> 
> 
 
> 
> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
> 
> Ray
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>> Leah,
>> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. I'm 
>> too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
>> Doug
>> 
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>> Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike 
>>> and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. Ever. 
>>> 
>>> But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new 
>>> Platys for us to admire!
>>> 
>>> Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. 
>>> 
 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
 Leah,
 
 That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments!
 
 You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what front 
 derailer is on there? Thank you!
 
 Best,
 Rich in ATL
 
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans wrote:
> I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a Witness 
> Protection Program now.
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 9:08 PM Joe Bernard  
>> wrote:
>> That bike with all its glorious teal and rose and Brooks and 
>> bags is - and there is no higher compliment from me - CRAZY. As 
>> the kids 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

Check your emails, kids. In a stunning turn of events I've never seen in 
the history of RBW - and I've been here from the beginning - frames are a 
month early! 

PS. Note that Will now calls Platypuses "Plattys", which is what Leah 
Bicycle Belle Ding Ding has been calling them for months. It's the new 
catchphrase that's sweeping the nation! 

Joe "doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new 
bike" Bernard

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:

> Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
> https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
> [image: 9 - bNrYfpz.jpg]
> On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>
>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
>> size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
>> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
>> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>>
>>> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
>>> The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 Sunrace 
>>> mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with a 
>>> different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB rear 
>>> derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money than 
>>> the big name parts makers. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
 size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c

 On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
 wrote:

> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The 
> demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are 
> off 
> in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
> final 
> design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses 
> will 
> be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!
>
> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are going 
> to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and gets more 
> bodies on Platys sooner.
>
> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. So 
> far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!
>
> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>>
>> Ray
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Leah,
>>> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. I'm 
>>> too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike 
 and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. Ever. 

 But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new 
 Platys for us to admire!

 Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. 

 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:

> Leah,
>
> That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments!
>
> You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what front 
> derailer is on there? Thank you!
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans wrote:
>
>> I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a Witness 
>> Protection Program now.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 9:08 PM Joe Bernard  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That bike with all its glorious teal and rose and Brooks and 
>>> bags is - and there is no higher compliment from me - CRAZY. As the 
>>> kids 
>>> would say, it's ridiculous! Excellent work all around from Leah the 
>>> parts/paint picker, Analog Cycles for the parts/ano, and the pro 
>>> shop that 
>>> put it all together. And Grant/Riv for the bike! 
>>>
>>> Joe "I have a custom and I'm still jealous of Leah's bike" 
>>> Bernard
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 7:53:12 PM UTC-8 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[John A. Bennett]

*Will's 3/26/21 Email Update here:*

https://mailchi.mp/42cc80fbd051/platypus-and-sam-frames-are-here?e=90002be5ff



On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:

> Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
> https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
> [image: 9 - bNrYfpz.jpg]
> On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>
>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
>> size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
>> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
>> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>>
>>> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
>>> The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 Sunrace 
>>> mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with a 
>>> different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB rear 
>>> derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money than 
>>> the big name parts makers. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
 size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c

 On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
 wrote:

> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The 
> demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are 
> off 
> in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
> final 
> design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses 
> will 
> be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!
>
> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are going 
> to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and gets more 
> bodies on Platys sooner.
>
> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. So 
> far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!
>
> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>>
>> Ray
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Leah,
>>> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. I'm 
>>> too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike 
 and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. Ever. 

 But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new 
 Platys for us to admire!

 Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. 

 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:

> Leah,
>
> That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments!
>
> You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what front 
> derailer is on there? Thank you!
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans wrote:
>
>> I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a Witness 
>> Protection Program now.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 9:08 PM Joe Bernard  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That bike with all its glorious teal and rose and Brooks and 
>>> bags is - and there is no higher compliment from me - CRAZY. As the 
>>> kids 
>>> would say, it's ridiculous! Excellent work all around from Leah the 
>>> parts/paint picker, Analog Cycles for the parts/ano, and the pro 
>>> shop that 
>>> put it all together. And Grant/Riv for the bike! 
>>>
>>> Joe "I have a custom and I'm still jealous of Leah's bike" 
>>> Bernard
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 7:53:12 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 (This message should have preceded my photos, but it was too 
 large and was not sent. Since the file is too large, you can see 
 it on 
 Instagram or the Facebook groups if you like.)

 Well, 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Emily, it’s gonna be beautiful, I’m sure of it. And also wonderful: we will 
have the exact same pair of bikes! Please tell me Greg is getting one too. That 
would be over the top.
L

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 26, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Emily Guise  wrote:
> 
> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that size 
> and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the smaller 
> ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and awkward compared 
> to the smaller sizes.
> 
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: The 
>> rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 Sunrace mech 
>> in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with a 
>> different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB rear 
>> derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money than 
>> the big name parts makers. 
>> 
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same size 
>>> if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>>> 
 On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
 wrote:
 I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The demos 
 prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are off in 
 the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the final 
 design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses will 
 be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!
 
 Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are going to 
 LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and gets more 
 bodies on Platys sooner.
 
 I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. So far 
 we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>  wrote:
>> 
> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!
> 
>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>>> 
>>> Ray
 On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
 Leah,
 I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. I'm 
 too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
 Doug
 
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
> Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike 
> and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. Ever. 
> 
> But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new 
> Platys for us to admire!
> 
> Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. 
> 
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>> Leah,
>> 
>> That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments!
>> 
>> You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what front 
>> derailer is on there? Thank you!
>> 
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>> 
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans wrote:
>>> I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a Witness 
>>> Protection Program now.
>>> 
 On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 9:08 PM Joe Bernard  
 wrote:
 That bike with all its glorious teal and rose and Brooks and bags 
 is - and there is no higher compliment from me - CRAZY. As the 
 kids would say, it's ridiculous! Excellent work all around from 
 Leah the parts/paint picker, Analog Cycles for the parts/ano, and 
 the pro shop that put it all together. And Grant/Riv for the bike! 
 
 
 Joe "I have a custom and I'm still jealous of Leah's bike" Bernard
 
> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 7:53:12 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
> (This message should have preceded my photos, but it was too 
> large and was not sent. Since the file is too large, you can see 
> it on Instagram or the Facebook groups if you like.)
> 
> Well, while we wait for the ship to be unloaded (MONDAY! 拾), I 
> made a video of my Platy because...IT’S FINALLY COMPLETE. I was 
> waiting on a bunch of rose anodized parts and a