Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
Kent Petersen discusses his use of a SteriPen on his blog. http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/ He used one when he rode the Tour Divide. -JimD On Jan 18, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Rex Kerr wrote: Just to tag onto Kelly's post (sorry, Kelly), does anyone have experience with how well those sterilizing pens work? Pros and cons? I carry one (SteriPen Classic Bundle w/ Nalgene) and have never gotten sick, though I've only used it in areas where I probably could have safely imbibed without sterilizing the water. I carry tablets as a backup in case the pen breaks or the batteries give up unexpectedly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
Mike, Rex, JimD: Thanks for the SteriPen input. Lee SF, CA On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:20 AM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: Kent Petersen discusses his use of a SteriPen on his blog. http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/ He used one when he rode the Tour Divide. -JimD On Jan 18, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Rex Kerr wrote: Just to tag onto Kelly's post (sorry, Kelly), does anyone have experience with how well those sterilizing pens work? Pros and cons? I carry one (SteriPen Classic Bundle w/ Nalgene) and have never gotten sick, though I've only used it in areas where I probably could have safely imbibed without sterilizing the water. I carry tablets as a backup in case the pen breaks or the batteries give up unexpectedly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
Just to tag onto Kelly's post (sorry, Kelly), does anyone have experience with how well those sterilizing pens work? Pros and cons? I carry one (SteriPen Classic Bundle w/ Nalgene) and have never gotten sick, though I've only used it in areas where I probably could have safely imbibed without sterilizing the water. I carry tablets as a backup in case the pen breaks or the batteries give up unexpectedly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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I toured in 2011 and 2009 in the PNW and me and my buddy used his Steri-pen a bunch with no issues. I keep meaning to get one for myself but most of the time when I go bike camping I make sure to have water and generally know where I can refill. I'll probably buy one this year with my REI dividend. --mike On Jan 18, 9:37 am, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Just to tag onto Kelly's post (sorry, Kelly), does anyone have experience with how well those sterilizing pens work? Pros and cons? I carry one (SteriPen Classic Bundle w/ Nalgene) and have never gotten sick, though I've only used it in areas where I probably could have safely imbibed without sterilizing the water. I carry tablets as a backup in case the pen breaks or the batteries give up unexpectedly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
Speaking of touring loads, do any of y'all favor a rear large rear saddlebag/front lowriders setup? Pro's versus con's compared to the more conventional big panniers in the back, small ones in front? I am thinking of something like two Ortlieb Packers on a Tubus Tara (the Tara clears 29+ Big Apples) in front and a Camper or Hoss in the rear -- the saddlebag supported, of course. (I weighed today's grocery-and-mail load in the Camper and it came to 29 lb including three bottles of plonk.) Patrick Moore, who really, really does plan to do some paved-cum-dirt-road camping with his brother this year. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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From my TransAm experience, one can kill a chain on paved roads in a week if its rainy. I was fendered, my cohorts not and as the designated mechanic I spent a lot of proactive time cleaning drivetrains (theirs much more than mine) and re-lubing to forestall wear and the impending need for replacement to preserve the drivetrain. I recommend a toothbrush or two to help remove the fine slurry from wet roads, trails or paths. A spare chain if you really will be outside of contingent supply. ANDY Pittsburgh On Jan 12, 4:15 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Ok so in July I'm doing a 2 week (14 days) self contained tour in Alaska. At this point there are some unknowns. Such as if there will be a place to do laundry. To that end I'm test packing as though there will be no laundry available. Bike Tools and Parts Brake Cables Shifter Cables Black Tape Chain links Master Link Spokes Spoke Tool Chain Whip Air Pressure Gauge 3 Tubes Patch Kit Boot Kit Folding Tire Chain Lube Brooks Multitool Pouch -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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I guess I'm a little different, I carry less on my bike than I do backpacking. What I have is here: http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2011/04/bike-packing-101.html?m=1 for a weekend or week it ends up the same, and weighs between 60-65 lbs including the bike. Marc On Jan 13, 12:16 am, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Best of luck. Sounds like a fantastic trip. They have water on Alaska. I suggest bringing some laundry soap,maybe a collapsible sink, and a clothesline, in place of all those clothes. Wash every day or two, bring clothes for three days, and you're golden. I can assure you your riding partners will be washing clothes by hand. You shouldn't need to provide your own breakfast and dinner food. Your group will be cooking breakfast and dinner together, taking turns. I imagine your group will buy food along the way. Your leader will know where the stores are. Part of the shared equipment is stoves, so I think you can dispense with your own. the shared equipment includes fuel and pots, too, plus cooking gear. They might parcel out the group tools as well. Half a pannier might not be enough. -- Anne Paulson On Thursday, January 12, 2012, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: First off this is not about what I consider best for you. Only how I do it. I can assure you I'm in no way attempting to be light. I like to take what I want / need to be comfortable. I have taken into consideration hills and my abilities. The weight is in a range of what I've used in the past and passes the test of my capabilities. So hopefully you understand it's not an argument or even a considered better than other ways of doing it just a way to do it. Ok enough disclaimer .. just realized I could write another page on trying not to offend.. but then what fun would that be. Ok so in July I'm doing a 2 week (14 days) self contained tour in Alaska. At this point there are some unknowns. Such as if there will be a place to do laundry. To that end I'm test packing as though there will be no laundry available. This list avails me the ability to travel for two weeks without need of washing clothes. It also covers temperatures from the high 40's to mid 70's. Packing List Clothing 5 Pair of Riding Pants (Convertible) (3 Days each) 7 Pair of Wool Underwear (2 Days each) 7 Shirts Long Sleeve (2 Days each) 1 Pair Wool Underwear Long Johns - 2 Base Layer Tops 7 Pair of Wool Socks (2 Days each) 1 Rain Gear 1 Sweater 2 Camp Towels 1 Swim suit 1 Balaclava 1 Ear cover 1 Pair Gloves extra pair of shoes Electronics Nikon D90 with 2 lenses Iphone iPad with camera card adapter extension cord 2 LED head lamps for campsite. Charging devices Cooking French Press 2 lbs of coffee Boiling Stove Origami Dishes Thermos 10 packs of instant oat meal 10 packs of instant things like mashed potatoes Knife Spoon Fork 1 Gallon folding Water Container Campsite Sleeping Bag Sleeping Pad Extra piece of foam Solar Shower Tent extra stakes Hammer Bike Tools and Parts Brake Cables Shifter Cables Black Tape Chain links Master Link Spokes Spoke Tool Chain Whip Air Pressure Gauge 3 Tubes Patch Kit Boot Kit Folding Tire Chain Lube Brooks Multitool Pouch After packing the following weights came about. Left Rear - Clothing - 15.00 Lbs Right Rear - Sleeping bag pad- cold weather gear 16 .00 Lbs Seat Bag Large Saddlesack tools tubes camera 18.00 lbs Left front - Stove food dishes etc 10.00 lbs Right Front - Electronics / rain gear 11.00 lbs Front Rack / Basket Tent thermos 12.00 lbs Total 82 lb. I had to leave 1/2 of one of the front panniers open for shared food and have added 5 lbs to that pannier ... If we have a laundry day then clothes could be cut in 1/2 Some big weight items... Camera - with zoom lens comes in at 5.5 lbs Thermos- Stanley Steel - comes in at 3.0 lbs I was going to migrate another 6 lbs of stuff to the front panniers .. may just carry my camera lens up there and move soft goods to saddle bag as well as tools. The weight limit on the front low rider rack is 33 lbs so I don't plan on pushing that number. Anyway I thought it was interesting how fast weight adds up.. yes if I wanted to safe weight I could save a lb by using plastic water bottles instead of insulated steel. Save another 4.5 lbs by taking a point and shoot camera, and another by leaving the thermos at home.. might do that anyway... between the french press and a good boiler stover I take advantage of just stopping to make more coffee... not to mention I could save almost 1.5 lbs on a lighter stove. Depending on how remote / I
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
I will share my perspective here. Background: I backpack and bike tour multiple times per year, and have accepted that I will never be a lightweight camper. However I am always seeking ways to bring a little bit less. I am particularly dismayed when I do overnight trips and find myself carrying almost the same load as I would for a 3-4 day trip. That said, this is what I would personally eliminate from your packing list. Note that I did not say personally RECOMMEND; the most important thing is to go and do it your own way. That said: For a backpacking/bike touring itinerary with no days in town, I tend to pack 3-4 pairs of socks and 2-3 pairs of underwear, t-shirts, etc. (All wool/synthetic.) Beyond that, one pair of nylon zip--off pants, one set of wool long underwear tops/bottoms, one shell/rainpant combo, one wool jacket, one pair of neoprene socks - that's about it. From my perspective, you have WAY too much clothes. The french press and thermos sound more appropriate for car camping to me. I use a small plastic cone and bring a stack of paper filters and brew directly into my insulated mug. I will not even suggest any type of instant coffee. I have heard good things about the Aeropress as well. I would try to get by with just the iPhone and leave the IPad at home. I don't carry a chain whip. When I have needed to remove my cassette I pull the skewer and place the splined cassette tool on, and put the wheel back on the bike as close to the dropouts as possible, and use the chain on the bike as my chain whip. One foot on the pedal, adjustable wrench on the cassette tool, seatpost over the wrench for leverage and the cassette threads right off. Leave the hammer at home. You can almost always find a rock. I do carry a Katadyn (formerly PUR) hiker water filter. It's bulky but rather light. It's a backpacking necessity but nice to have on a bike tour as well. I never bother using it for cooking water - if it has come to a boil it's good enough for me. I use a Sweetwater prefilter to make the filter element last nearly indefinitely. Replacing $3 prefilters is preferable to replacing $50 filter elements! Even if you were to make all of these changes you will still have a rather extensive load and in no way reduce the justification for owning a Bombadil. My touring bike is also a heavyweight - Thorn Raven with Rohloff hub, so lightweight is pretty much out the window even before the bike is loaded! Enjoy the tour and may your tires stay inflated and your spokes unbroken. Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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I like a French Press, and figured a way to make a 16oz Contigo insulated stainless mug and a French Press plunger do double duty for drinking and coffee making. The Contigo fits water-bottle cages and is easy to use while riding. I re-purposed a plunger from a plastic Peets travel French Press that fits nicely into the Contigo, and is just the right length to hold the grounds tight when I put the lid on the mug. I don't let it bother me that the grounds are pressed to the bottom of the mug while I'm drinking, and sometimes there is a ground or two that gets loose. For the cost of a few grams of plunger, a uni-tasking coffee pot is avoided, and I can store the plunger in the travel mug until needed again. Pictures prove it's real: http://tinyurl.com/7lcvk45 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jEkA67jNECMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Kevin M kpmulc...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a fan of the french press, but if you're you're grinding two weeks of coffee before you embark it probably won't taste any better than Starbuck's Via instant coffee after day 2. Via actually is pretty damn good for camp coffee. Most of my bicycle touring has been in areas with at least once per day access to a store or restaurant where I could buy coffee, but my hiking trips have taken me to places where it would be a multi day hike to get fresh coffee... not only is Via a good camp coffee, even instant mashed potatoes start to taste like heaven when you're too tired to cook anything more substantial! When you're exhausted after 70 miles of loaded riding or 12 or so miles of loaded hiking your priorities change a bit, otherwise I'd be carrying my hand grinder and moka pot! My loads are already far too heavy without that luxury. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
That's great you can buy them now. My friend built one using a Platypus bladder, some tubing, and First Need Filter. We first used it in Tehipite Canyon in King's Canyon, so we called it the Tehipite Water System. And on that trip we were much better hydrated b/c water was so cheap. Just fill, hang, go do something else and you have overflowing potable water. The problem with boiling is that you need a bit of fuel- as if your'e converting it into water. Filtration I think is much better. As for the rest of the packing list, seems like the hammer isn't very multi-use and heavy. If you're sleeping on tundra, it's like natural Therapedic. Miles of it. The best natural mattress I've ever slept on. Didn't unpack the Thermarest. And, of course, very easy to stake into. I agree about the coffee press, which to be sure, is a complete sign of civilization. But isn't a trip to AK about putting some distance between you and civilization? Which is why I would lose the iPad too. :-) stay off the grid for a couple weeks. Bring a journal and a couple good paperbacks (John McPhee's Coming into Country comes to mind, Michener's Alaska, or even Travels to Siberia by Ian Frazier, which in its own way is similar to these lands). Be sure to bring bug juice. In Denali, we had to walk around while eating our food; you could swipe your hand in the air and catch a zillion skeeters. Gross at first, but you get used to it. We used Sawyer's Gold, with up to 20% DEET. Beyond that apparently doesn't add any benefit. The mosquitos came within 2 in. of your face, and stayed away. Oh, a bandanna is also a great blind fold to keep that midnight sun out (4pm sunshine at 8pm; midnight hikes in full light. Surreal.). Great trip! Tse-Sung Berkeley On Jan 13, 1:19 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: I've been using Sawyer drip purifiers for two years. Fill the top bag, let gravity do the work. On Jan 13, 11:17 am, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: What do you use for water purification. Generally I just filter with t shirt and boil. I have been looking at some purification systems.. that is an area I'm completely clueless. Thankfully I haven't been isolated badly enough to have to do that often... though it did happen twice last year. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
Steri-pen. It seems to work well enough. Obviously if i were doing something like the Dempster Hey i'd carry more gear but not much more. I'd certainly pack plenty of grub. On Jan 13, 1:17 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: What do you use for water purification. Generally I just filter with t shirt and boil. I have been looking at some purification systems.. that is an area I'm completely clueless. Thankfully I haven't been isolated badly enough to have to do that often... though it did happen twice last year. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
Definitely will be laundry facilities in Glenallen and Cantwell. Wouldn't be surpassed if there were others along the way. I don't know if you have time to extend your trip, but a midnight sun ride on the Denali National Park road from the park entrance to Wonder Lake would be a fantastic end to your trip. Have a great trip. On Jan 12, 10:43 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Well this will be the first one I paid for.. Self contained.. Lots of things like ragrbri and such. Denali Adventurehttp://www.adventurecycling.org/tours/tourdetail.cfm?t=SC12id=301p=1 The other two tours this year will be on my own. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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Plus Aero Press can taste even better. I second the Aero! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/61gw0FArrf4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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Via por vida! Love that stuff for camping/touring. My 3 day load is the same as my 1 week load which i doubt would be much different than my 1 month load. I tend to travel light on and off the bike. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
What do you use for water purification. Generally I just filter with t shirt and boil. I have been looking at some purification systems.. that is an area I'm completely clueless. Thankfully I haven't been isolated badly enough to have to do that often... though it did happen twice last year. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0nDudp-MKVgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: What do you use for water purification. Generally I just filter with t shirt and boil. I have been looking at some purification systems.. that is an area I'm completely clueless. Just to tag onto Kelly's post (sorry, Kelly), does anyone have experience with how well those sterilizing pens work? Pros and cons? Thanks, Lee SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
I've been using Sawyer drip purifiers for two years. Fill the top bag, let gravity do the work. On Jan 13, 11:17 am, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: What do you use for water purification. Generally I just filter with t shirt and boil. I have been looking at some purification systems.. that is an area I'm completely clueless. Thankfully I haven't been isolated badly enough to have to do that often... though it did happen twice last year. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
I just got back from Death Valley. In addition to much of what you'll be carrying, I also carried over 4 gallons of water (initially). And I started with a week's worth of groceries, including things like 2 jars of PB, a 5lb bag of potatoes, 1 lb salami, 1 lb cheese, several pounds of quinoa, nuts, and other snack-ish foods. At some point I'd also crammed a dozen eggs and a pound of bacon into a pannier. I didn't weigh my fully loaded bike, but when I start to think of the components of my kit, 150 lbs seems like a solid estimate for total rolling weight, less rider. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LroC0AydPMsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
Don't forget gaffers tape, a pipe clamp, and extra rack hardware. That is quite a load, I'm curious as to what racks and panniers you're using. I'm a fan of the french press, but if you're you're grinding two weeks of coffee before you embark it probably won't taste any better than Starbuck's Via instant coffee after day 2. Via actually is pretty damn good for camp coffee. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/G8TcCbIGtcIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
French press - now that's a man with his priorities straight. Still, I've got to concur with Kevin M that Via is not too bad at all. But I've never toured anywhere so I'm not speaking as a bike touring expert, only as a coffee drinker. Pete, CT SingleSixtySidepullSam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/nDf1x9hcT8gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
But for a lot of us coffee is a thing you do, not just a thing you drink. When I lived around the corner from Vine St. Peet's, it was the going that I enjoyed the most. Coffee on tour, for me, is this small red cone filter holder and waiting for the drip. It's just how I do coffee on tour. A lot of the time it's the drinking, but sometimes it's the doing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qxY6-mayXgsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
It's for loads like this that Grant added the 2TT. 100 lb loads call for an extra stout bike. My Atlantis has a nice cushy ride on 40 mm tires with 40-50 lbs; probably need to think about it before doubling up on that. dougP On Jan 12, 4:21 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: It would all be feather light if you could just jettison that silly second top tube! KIDDING!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
@Doug I do know on my other tour bikes .. including the compact frames that when loaded and standing they were very noodle feeling .. like standing together on a tandem the first time... or riding in sand.. had to pedal very consciously. This one first time out blew my mind.. I just stood up and took off with like there was no weight Not to mention I never enjoyed just riding my other tour bikes. This one is fun to ride loaded or unloaded. The taller folks like me 6'5 don't have the choices out there that short folks do. Even the 64cm Bombadil for me is a tad on the small side. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DZpDMYqFOsAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
Some thoughts: I don't see a pump listed but you'll surely need one. Get one with an integrated gauge (Topeak Road Morph), or calibrate your thumb and leave the separate gauge behind. Take a couple of Fiberfix spokes, leave the chain whip at home. I agree with Mike, you're way long on wool underwear and socks. They can be re-worn for many days between washes with a little airing out. For coffee, are you aware of the Aeropress as an alternative to a traditional French press? Light weight, all plastic (unbreakable), and fast. It uses paper filters but they are tiny. If the iPad is just for unloading photos, leave it home and stock up on 16 gig SD cards instead. Way less weight and bulk, but more importantly less chance of damage or loss and no need for charging. If you really need to view photos on the road, use microSD cards with an adapter, and plug them into the iPhone for playback. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
iPad is a luxury but is really nice for tv on my slingbox.. And I use it to duplicate the ad cards .. If sd is damaged photos on iPad if ipad destroyed still have photos. The pump is a frame pump ..unlisted ...feels like part of bike... Just picked up really nice pressure gauge. I agree with your choice of a pump being a better choice, It's all good ... I'm liking the different coffee suggestions... Actually just enjoying the conversation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5j1a18D4aogJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
A 14 day self-contained Alaska trip sounds awesome. What fun! For my bike camping coffee, I love using a Melitta single cup drip brewer paired with a gold filter. I like it because it's small, lightweight, easy to clean, and creates no waste other than the spent grounds. Most importantly, it brews a fantastic cup of coffee. At home I alternate between a french press an a Hario pour-over filter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_C5qcs0OdO8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
Where will you be touring? I lived up there for 13 years and I am envious. One item I didn't see was a mosquito headnet. Do not forget it. I've seen otherwise sane people lose their minds due to the bugs. I'd also make sure that some of your clothing is bug proof (rain pants and jackets work). New Buzz Off pants, shirts and bandanas, won't keep you completely safe but they do help. I'd even consider Buzz Off socks. The little bastards seem to love ankle blood. Obviously you need a headlamp but two might be overkill. I don't know if I ever used one in July. Also, if you are on the road system virtually every spot on the map with a gas station has a laundromat. Many Alaskans still live off the grid and need a place to wash clothes. I seem to remember a place in Soldotna where you could rent a hot tub and soak while you did your laundry. Bears are an issue. Unless you know you will be staying at campgrounds with food lockers you need a bear-proof food container. I'd also consider bear spray. Lastly, I know its a heresy but I'm a fan of Starbucks Via coffee for backcountry trips. Virtually weightless and surpassingly palatable. Also, Alaskans love coffee--If you get the shakes there are a number of espresso shacks, even in fairly remote places. I can't wait to hear about your plans and I'm a resource if you have questions. D.G. On Jan 12, 2:15 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: First off this is not about what I consider best for you. Only how I do it. I can assure you I'm in no way attempting to be light. I like to take what I want / need to be comfortable. I have taken into consideration hills and my abilities. The weight is in a range of what I've used in the past and passes the test of my capabilities. So hopefully you understand it's not an argument or even a considered better than other ways of doing it just a way to do it. Ok enough disclaimer .. just realized I could write another page on trying not to offend.. but then what fun would that be. Ok so in July I'm doing a 2 week (14 days) self contained tour in Alaska. At this point there are some unknowns. Such as if there will be a place to do laundry. To that end I'm test packing as though there will be no laundry available. This list avails me the ability to travel for two weeks without need of washing clothes. It also covers temperatures from the high 40's to mid 70's. Packing List Clothing 5 Pair of Riding Pants (Convertible) (3 Days each) 7 Pair of Wool Underwear (2 Days each) 7 Shirts Long Sleeve (2 Days each) 1 Pair Wool Underwear Long Johns - 2 Base Layer Tops 7 Pair of Wool Socks (2 Days each) 1 Rain Gear 1 Sweater 2 Camp Towels 1 Swim suit 1 Balaclava 1 Ear cover 1 Pair Gloves extra pair of shoes Electronics Nikon D90 with 2 lenses Iphone iPad with camera card adapter extension cord 2 LED head lamps for campsite. Charging devices Cooking French Press 2 lbs of coffee Boiling Stove Origami Dishes Thermos 10 packs of instant oat meal 10 packs of instant things like mashed potatoes Knife Spoon Fork 1 Gallon folding Water Container Campsite Sleeping Bag Sleeping Pad Extra piece of foam Solar Shower Tent extra stakes Hammer Bike Tools and Parts Brake Cables Shifter Cables Black Tape Chain links Master Link Spokes Spoke Tool Chain Whip Air Pressure Gauge 3 Tubes Patch Kit Boot Kit Folding Tire Chain Lube Brooks Multitool Pouch After packing the following weights came about. Left Rear - Clothing - 15.00 Lbs Right Rear - Sleeping bag pad- cold weather gear 16 .00 Lbs Seat Bag Large Saddlesack tools tubes camera 18.00 lbs Left front - Stove food dishes etc 10.00 lbs Right Front - Electronics / rain gear 11.00 lbs Front Rack / Basket Tent thermos 12.00 lbs Total 82 lb. I had to leave 1/2 of one of the front panniers open for shared food and have added 5 lbs to that pannier ... If we have a laundry day then clothes could be cut in 1/2 Some big weight items... Camera - with zoom lens comes in at 5.5 lbs Thermos- Stanley Steel - comes in at 3.0 lbs I was going to migrate another 6 lbs of stuff to the front panniers .. may just carry my camera lens up there and move soft goods to saddle bag as well as tools. The weight limit on the front low rider rack is 33 lbs so I don't plan on pushing that number. Anyway I thought it was interesting how fast weight adds up.. yes if I wanted to safe weight I could save a lb by using plastic water bottles instead of insulated steel. Save another 4.5 lbs by taking a point and shoot camera, and another by leaving the thermos at home.. might do that anyway... between the french press
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
@Kelly: Interesting...maybe a lot of tour bikes aren't as over-built as commonly assumed. The only other bike I've toured on was a converted racing bike (obviously inadequate), with the same noodly feel you describe. On tour, one tends to see lots of converted MTBs. Personally not a fan of the 2TT look but if you can load a big Bomba down with 80 lbs of gear have a solid ride, it sounds like the second tube is seriously functional. Should load the Atlantis down to see where it becomes noodly. dougP On Jan 12, 5:12 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: @Doug I do know on my other tour bikes .. including the compact frames that when loaded and standing they were very noodle feeling .. like standing together on a tandem the first time... or riding in sand.. had to pedal very consciously. This one first time out blew my mind.. I just stood up and took off with like there was no weight Not to mention I never enjoyed just riding my other tour bikes. This one is fun to ride loaded or unloaded. The taller folks like me 6'5 don't have the choices out there that short folks do. Even the 64cm Bombadil for me is a tad on the small side. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
Well this will be the first one I paid for.. Self contained.. Lots of things like ragrbri and such. Denali Adventure http://www.adventurecycling.org/tours/tourdetail.cfm?t=SC12id=301p=1 The other two tours this year will be on my own. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GgvgoBjzzpAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
