[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
That is cool! Modifying Ti is a bit above my pay grade, tho. They say the make it out of scrap, so I'm guessing small runs. I'll ask them if they'll do one with a 15 mm open end. dougP On Jul 26, 7:54 pm, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: And it should be made of titanium. http://www.paragonmachineworks.com/storename/paragonmachineworks/dept... Okay, not a pedal wrench, but it could be modified. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:46 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: What this world needs is a 15 mm pedal wrench on one end with a bottle opener on the other. When was the last time you found a 9/16 spindle? I have a nice collection of cheap cork screws, gathered on various tours. Can you believe 6 wine drinking cyclists NO ONE thought to bring one? Guess we're not the wine snobs we make out to be. dougP On Jul 26, 5:59 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: No corkscrew required.http://www.stx.ox.ac.uk/system/files/images/Knob+Creek.JPG On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Jeez, do all of you travel without a corkscrew! I did that once and found myself in the Maine woods trying to open a cabernet with a screw driver. I swore never again. Now I always include a swiss army knife in my tool kit. There's only so much civilization I leave behind when I tour. michael On Jul 26, 7:07 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Who you calling hypercracker? Bring a hypercracker. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/stein-mini-lock/ On Jul 26, 3:54 pm, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: I'd bring a leatherman, a bike tool, some chain lube, patch kit, 3 spare tubes, chain pin, folding tire, and a GOOD bike pump that has a gauge. To me that would be a dream tool/ repair kit. Get really comfortable with the patch kit and it will save you some $$$ and pump your tires up every morning. I hope you are going North to South!!! Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
I like doing my own maintenance and fixing my own mechanical problems on the road. I tend to see dealing with repair problems as part of the adventure of touring. I also enjoy being of service to other tourers I meet who are having bike issues. So, because I enjoy wrenching and being independent of shop mechanics, I do carry a heavier tool kit. I economize on other equipment to balance out the weight. Note: For self- contained touring, my total base gear load is about 45 pounds including the panniers. Bike Touring Repair Kit Contents (With some items carried elsewhere)* --All of these items are packed in a small, 2-pocket fanny pack and travel in a front pannier. This is the kit I use for 2- to 6-week, self-contained tours where bike shops might be inconsistently available-- Tools Crank Bro’s M10 Multitool Park 8/10 Open End Wrench Chainring Bolt Tool Mini Vise Grips Brooks Saddle Spanner Park Chain Checker (CC-3) Stein Mini Cassette Lockring Tool Park Spoke Wrench ½ Hacksaw Blade 15mm Wrench Park CT-5 Chain Tool Single 5mm Hex Wrench (for seat adjustment) Tire Repair TTO2 Patch Kit – Double Contents 2 Valve Caps 2 Presta Stem Nuts Presta/Schrader Rim Adapter Presta/Schrader Fill Adapter 1-2 Spare Tubes Spare Tire Spares 2 Ortlieb Pannier Clip Spacers 2 Planet Bike Fender Stay Bolts 1 Bottom Fender Spacer 2 Ortlieb Rack Spacers 4 M5 Stainless Fender Washers 4 M5 Stainless Washers 4 M5 Split/Lock Washers 4 M5 Nylock Nuts 10 Asst’d Stainless M5 Bolts Derailleur/Brake Cable End Crimps Derailleur/Brake Cable Housing End Caps 3 Cable “Donuts” Brake Noodle Boot 8 9 Speed Sram Powerlinks 5mm Cassette Spacer (allows use of 7 speed cassette on 8/9 speed hub) Brake Cable Brake Pads Derailleur Cable FiberFix Spoke Miscellaneous Modified Jansport Fanny Pack Assorted Zip Ties Tenacious Tape(TM) Therm-A-Rest Repair Kit Small Bottle Phil Grease Small Bottle with Boeshield T-9 Lube Small Bottle Blue Loctite Total weight of above items = 3 lbs 14 oz *Repair Items Carried Elsewhere Small Swiss Army Knife (Kitchen) Folding Scissors (First Aid) Sewing Kit (First Aid) 3 Spokes (Taped to Rack) Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HP (Frame) Dollar Bill (Tire Boot) Mini Duct Tape Roll (Front Pannier) Nylon Cord (Clothesline and Repair - Front Pannier) On Jul 25, 10:30 pm, thebvo the...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy all! I'm doing the Pacific coast tour (2000 miles - yikes) in september. It will be my first long distance tour ever, so I would love to hear suggestions on what to bring, besides camping gear. I've been backpacking for 10 years, so that part is covered, but what I'm curious about deals with bike tools and accessories and tips. For example: bike pumps - cO2 cartridge or top tube pump? Pedals - Grip king or cages? - I am NOT doing the lance armstrong shoes. So, I dunno. I'm just puttin it out there if anyone with experience wants to float some knowledge my way about touring. Thanks a lot ~Ben ps: I'll be out in the woods canoeing for 3 weeks, but when I get back I'll be ready to read and learn. Cheerio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
LOL, well, I *do* have that third water bottle cage on the Saluki Can you burn that stuff in an alcohol stove? :) On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:10 PM, cyclotourist wrote: Believe me, I was fondling one at River City in PDX just a short two weeks ago... but it's the proprietary cage you have to buy that killed the deal :-( That and capacity. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
That was one particularly appropriate facts about my S24O on Mt Diablo Saturday night: $30 campsite, $30 bottle of wine. On Jul 26, 7:46 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: What this world needs is a 15 mm pedal wrench on one end with a bottle opener on the other. When was the last time you found a 9/16 spindle? I have a nice collection of cheap cork screws, gathered on various tours. Can you believe 6 wine drinking cyclists NO ONE thought to bring one? Guess we're not the wine snobs we make out to be. dougP On Jul 26, 5:59 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: No corkscrew required.http://www.stx.ox.ac.uk/system/files/images/Knob+Creek.JPG On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Jeez, do all of you travel without a corkscrew! I did that once and found myself in the Maine woods trying to open a cabernet with a screw driver. I swore never again. Now I always include a swiss army knife in my tool kit. There's only so much civilization I leave behind when I tour. michael On Jul 26, 7:07 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Who you calling hypercracker? Bring a hypercracker. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/stein-mini-lock/ On Jul 26, 3:54 pm, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: I'd bring a leatherman, a bike tool, some chain lube, patch kit, 3 spare tubes, chain pin, folding tire, and a GOOD bike pump that has a gauge. To me that would be a dream tool/ repair kit. Get really comfortable with the patch kit and it will save you some $$$ and pump your tires up every morning. I hope you are going North to South!!! Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
In a pinch... On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: LOL, well, I *do* have that third water bottle cage on the Saluki Can you burn that stuff in an alcohol stove? :) On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:10 PM, cyclotourist wrote: Believe me, I was fondling one at River City in PDX just a short two weeks ago... but it's the proprietary cage you have to buy that killed the deal :-( That and capacity. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
This is what I do: Pump not CO2 (you won't run out of cartridges and you can top up the tire pressure over time) Tools: Just enough to tighten/adjust every fastener on the bike (may be one small multi-tool) + small chain breaker (if not in multi-tool) + tire levers Spares: Tubes (2) + spokes (3-4) + zip ties + duct tape (a foot or so wrapped around a small wood dowel) + patch kit + tire boot + 2 bolts that can replace rack bolts + 2 brake pads (if you think you'll wear them out) + chain master link, derailleur brake cables if you want. I think of it as just enough to let me limp along to the next bike shop...otherwise I would end up taking too much. Angus On Jul 26, 12:30 am, thebvo the...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy all! I'm doing the Pacific coast tour (2000 miles - yikes) in september. It will be my first long distance tour ever, so I would love to hear suggestions on what to bring, besides camping gear. I've been backpacking for 10 years, so that part is covered, but what I'm curious about deals with bike tools and accessories and tips. For example: bike pumps - cO2 cartridge or top tube pump? Pedals - Grip king or cages? - I am NOT doing the lance armstrong shoes. So, I dunno. I'm just puttin it out there if anyone with experience wants to float some knowledge my way about touring. Thanks a lot ~Ben ps: I'll be out in the woods canoeing for 3 weeks, but when I get back I'll be ready to read and learn. Cheerio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This is what I do: Pump not CO2 (you won't run out of cartridges and you can top up the tire pressure over time) Tools: Just enough to tighten/adjust every fastener on the bike (may be one small multi-tool) + small chain breaker (if not in multi-tool) + tire levers Spares: Tubes (2) + spokes (3-4) + zip ties + duct tape (a foot or so wrapped around a small wood dowel) + patch kit + tire boot + 2 bolts that can replace rack bolts + 2 brake pads (if you think you'll wear them out) + chain master link, derailleur brake cables if you want. That's pretty much what I bring also, except I don't bring spokes or cables. I also bring a spare folding tire, and of course a bottle of chain lube and a rag. CO2 cartridges don't fit in with the Riv esthetic, I don't think, whether on tour or just riding around. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
+1 for the pump. I've lent my pump to plenty of riders who've run out of cartridges. A separate spoke wrench is easier to use than the one in a multi- toool. Since the rear drive side spokes are the ones most likely to fail, the tool for removing your cluster (FW or cassette) is needed for on-road spoke replacement. OTH, a well built, touring grade wheel should be able to limp to the next LBS with a broken spoke. dougP On Jul 26, 7:52 am, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This is what I do: Pump not CO2 (you won't run out of cartridges and you can top up the tire pressure over time) Tools: Just enough to tighten/adjust every fastener on the bike (may be one small multi-tool) + small chain breaker (if not in multi-tool) + tire levers Spares: Tubes (2) + spokes (3-4) + zip ties + duct tape (a foot or so wrapped around a small wood dowel) + patch kit + tire boot + 2 bolts that can replace rack bolts + 2 brake pads (if you think you'll wear them out) + chain master link, derailleur brake cables if you want. That's pretty much what I bring also, except I don't bring spokes or cables. I also bring a spare folding tire, and of course a bottle of chain lube and a rag. CO2 cartridges don't fit in with the Riv esthetic, I don't think, whether on tour or just riding around. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
Agree with the others, good mini-pump is better than CO2 for longer trips. Fortunately I have not had to use it, but I pack this spoke repair device called FiberFix: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fiberfix.htm Peter White sells them. I trust he would not if he did not think it a good temporary solution. On the Pacific Trail you will not be more than a few hours from a bike store. This should help you limp to maintenance. On Jul 26, 10:21 am, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: +1 for the pump. I've lent my pump to plenty of riders who've run out of cartridges. A separate spoke wrench is easier to use than the one in a multi- toool. Since the rear drive side spokes are the ones most likely to fail, the tool for removing your cluster (FW or cassette) is needed for on-road spoke replacement. OTH, a well built, touring grade wheel should be able to limp to the next LBS with a broken spoke. dougP On Jul 26, 7:52 am, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This is what I do: Pump not CO2 (you won't run out of cartridges and you can top up the tire pressure over time) Tools: Just enough to tighten/adjust every fastener on the bike (may be one small multi-tool) + small chain breaker (if not in multi-tool) + tire levers Spares: Tubes (2) + spokes (3-4) + zip ties + duct tape (a foot or so wrapped around a small wood dowel) + patch kit + tire boot + 2 bolts that can replace rack bolts + 2 brake pads (if you think you'll wear them out) + chain master link, derailleur brake cables if you want. That's pretty much what I bring also, except I don't bring spokes or cables. I also bring a spare folding tire, and of course a bottle of chain lube and a rag. CO2 cartridges don't fit in with the Riv esthetic, I don't think, whether on tour or just riding around. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
One more good thing about the FiberFix replacement spoke is that it does not require cassette removal to use. And it comes with a spoke wrench. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:29 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Agree with the others, good mini-pump is better than CO2 for longer trips. Fortunately I have not had to use it, but I pack this spoke repair device called FiberFix: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fiberfix.htm Peter White sells them. I trust he would not if he did not think it a good temporary solution. On the Pacific Trail you will not be more than a few hours from a bike store. This should help you limp to maintenance. On Jul 26, 10:21 am, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: +1 for the pump. I've lent my pump to plenty of riders who've run out of cartridges. A separate spoke wrench is easier to use than the one in a multi- toool. Since the rear drive side spokes are the ones most likely to fail, the tool for removing your cluster (FW or cassette) is needed for on-road spoke replacement. OTH, a well built, touring grade wheel should be able to limp to the next LBS with a broken spoke. dougP On Jul 26, 7:52 am, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This is what I do: Pump not CO2 (you won't run out of cartridges and you can top up the tire pressure over time) Tools: Just enough to tighten/adjust every fastener on the bike (may be one small multi-tool) + small chain breaker (if not in multi-tool) + tire levers Spares: Tubes (2) + spokes (3-4) + zip ties + duct tape (a foot or so wrapped around a small wood dowel) + patch kit + tire boot + 2 bolts that can replace rack bolts + 2 brake pads (if you think you'll wear them out) + chain master link, derailleur brake cables if you want. That's pretty much what I bring also, except I don't bring spokes or cables. I also bring a spare folding tire, and of course a bottle of chain lube and a rag. CO2 cartridges don't fit in with the Riv esthetic, I don't think, whether on tour or just riding around. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
On Jul 26, 11:29 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Agree with the others, good mini-pump is better than CO2 for longer trips. Tubes leak air, so you'll want to top up tires every couple days. Get a pump with a hose on it, Lezyne or Topeak. That way you can add 10 psi to the tire while it is on the bike and not stress the valve. Flat fixing in the rain, CO2 is very nice. Ditto on the fibrefix, also Pyramid has precut derailer cables a good idea that weighs nothing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
Hi Ben, I think the suggestions you have for tools are great so far- I just have a comment on pedals. I'm currently 2600 miles into a 5000+ mile trans-continental trip from Boston MA to the west coast (and then hopefully down the coast) via northern Ontario (which was awesome)!I'm at the public library in Sheridan, WY at the moment and happened to see your post so I thought I'd add a vote for platform pedals. I'm also somewhat averse to racing/clipless shoes or conventional straps, and am using platform pedals because I've always used them. I've done a couple of looong high-mileage days here and there- due to lack of decent camping spots or for other reasons- and have sometimes had some leg/ankle cramps that required me to reposition my feet on the pedals much more than you'd be able to even with regular clips/straps.It's also nice to be able to wear my sneakers. I've also had some very hot days (95 degrees all day yesterday, from Gillette to Sheridan via Rt 14) and it's great to be able to wear something like Teva sandals on days like that. The only downside I can see is that you have to worry about slipping a pedal, which can end badly if you don't have good control of the bike when it happens :( However, Grip Kings seem to have a wide/long/ ample platform, so I think you'd be MUCH less likely to slip a pedal on those than on, say MKS touring pedals (which are also fine pedals nonetheless, and are what I have). Good luck on your trip- it's going to be sweet! Matt On Jul 25, 11:30 pm, thebvo the...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy all! I'm doing the Pacific coast tour (2000 miles - yikes) in september. It will be my first long distance tour ever, so I would love to hear suggestions on what to bring, besides camping gear. I've been backpacking for 10 years, so that part is covered, but what I'm curious about deals with bike tools and accessories and tips. For example: bike pumps - cO2 cartridge or top tube pump? Pedals - Grip king or cages? - I am NOT doing the lance armstrong shoes. So, I dunno. I'm just puttin it out there if anyone with experience wants to float some knowledge my way about touring. Thanks a lot ~Ben ps: I'll be out in the woods canoeing for 3 weeks, but when I get back I'll be ready to read and learn. Cheerio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
+1 for the Grip Kings. I've got a couple of years on mine love 'em. Good grip even when wet. I usually wear a soft rubber soled shoe such as sandal or sneaker so that may help with the gription. I've also tried BMX pedals and I think anything with a lot of surface area some aggressive grabby surface is good for touring. The MKS sneaker pedals are slippery when wet. As long as the pedal draws blood, it's aggressive enough. dougP On Jul 26, 10:28 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ben, I think the suggestions you have for tools are great so far- I just have a comment on pedals. I'm currently 2600 miles into a 5000+ mile trans-continental trip from Boston MA to the west coast (and then hopefully down the coast) via northern Ontario (which was awesome)! I'm at the public library in Sheridan, WY at the moment and happened to see your post so I thought I'd add a vote for platform pedals. I'm also somewhat averse to racing/clipless shoes or conventional straps, and am using platform pedals because I've always used them. I've done a couple of looong high-mileage days here and there- due to lack of decent camping spots or for other reasons- and have sometimes had some leg/ankle cramps that required me to reposition my feet on the pedals much more than you'd be able to even with regular clips/straps. It's also nice to be able to wear my sneakers. I've also had some very hot days (95 degrees all day yesterday, from Gillette to Sheridan via Rt 14) and it's great to be able to wear something like Teva sandals on days like that. The only downside I can see is that you have to worry about slipping a pedal, which can end badly if you don't have good control of the bike when it happens :( However, Grip Kings seem to have a wide/long/ ample platform, so I think you'd be MUCH less likely to slip a pedal on those than on, say MKS touring pedals (which are also fine pedals nonetheless, and are what I have). Good luck on your trip- it's going to be sweet! Matt On Jul 25, 11:30 pm, thebvo the...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy all! I'm doing the Pacific coast tour (2000 miles - yikes) in september. It will be my first long distance tour ever, so I would love to hear suggestions on what to bring, besides camping gear. I've been backpacking for 10 years, so that part is covered, but what I'm curious about deals with bike tools and accessories and tips. For example: bike pumps - cO2 cartridge or top tube pump? Pedals - Grip king or cages? - I am NOT doing the lance armstrong shoes. So, I dunno. I'm just puttin it out there if anyone with experience wants to float some knowledge my way about touring. Thanks a lot ~Ben ps: I'll be out in the woods canoeing for 3 weeks, but when I get back I'll be ready to read and learn. Cheerio- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
I'd bring a leatherman, a bike tool, some chain lube, patch kit, 3 spare tubes, chain pin, folding tire, and a GOOD bike pump that has a gauge. To me that would be a dream tool/ repair kit. Get really comfortable with the patch kit and it will save you some $$$ and pump your tires up every morning. I hope you are going North to South!!! Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
Who you calling hypercracker? Bring a hypercracker. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/stein-mini-lock/ On Jul 26, 3:54 pm, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: I'd bring a leatherman, a bike tool, some chain lube, patch kit, 3 spare tubes, chain pin, folding tire, and a GOOD bike pump that has a gauge. To me that would be a dream tool/ repair kit. Get really comfortable with the patch kit and it will save you some $$$ and pump your tires up every morning. I hope you are going North to South!!! Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
Jeez, do all of you travel without a corkscrew! I did that once and found myself in the Maine woods trying to open a cabernet with a screw driver. I swore never again. Now I always include a swiss army knife in my tool kit. There's only so much civilization I leave behind when I tour. michael On Jul 26, 7:07 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Who you calling hypercracker? Bring a hypercracker. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/stein-mini-lock/ On Jul 26, 3:54 pm, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: I'd bring a leatherman, a bike tool, some chain lube, patch kit, 3 spare tubes, chain pin, folding tire, and a GOOD bike pump that has a gauge. To me that would be a dream tool/ repair kit. Get really comfortable with the patch kit and it will save you some $$$ and pump your tires up every morning. I hope you are going North to South!!! Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Jeez, do all of you travel without a corkscrew! I bring along a wire whisk and a pancake turner too, but I don't think of them as bike tools. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
Yeah, the ol' Aunt Jemima treatment ... always fun. http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/2604b1f638/stripes-aunt-jemima-treatment-from-stripesfan --Eric Sent from my iPad On Jul 26, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: I bring along a wire whisk and a pancake turner too, but I don't think of them as bike tools. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
No corkscrew required.http://www.stx.ox.ac.uk/system/files/images/Knob+Creek.JPG On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Jeez, do all of you travel without a corkscrew! I did that once and found myself in the Maine woods trying to open a cabernet with a screw driver. I swore never again. Now I always include a swiss army knife in my tool kit. There's only so much civilization I leave behind when I tour. michael On Jul 26, 7:07 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Who you calling hypercracker? Bring a hypercracker. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/stein-mini-lock/ On Jul 26, 3:54 pm, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: I'd bring a leatherman, a bike tool, some chain lube, patch kit, 3 spare tubes, chain pin, folding tire, and a GOOD bike pump that has a gauge. To me that would be a dream tool/ repair kit. Get really comfortable with the patch kit and it will save you some $$$ and pump your tires up every morning. I hope you are going North to South!!! Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
My feet are starting to hurt for you. If you are doing any major mountain passes on your tour with a full load, have a pair of shoes with good stiff soles for those days. Cages are a real pain, they catch on things and for me they are mostly a pain in the foot. Platforms are OK for the flats, but spinning up a long mountain climb with a granny gear for 4 hours, wrestling a loaded bike on a 7% grade may test your patience and fry your quads while pedaling squares but if those were my only 2 options I'd pack a bottle of Advil and go with the. No I'd go with option 3, a good SPD mountain bike pedal and shoe. Thats my experience. For a pump I've been quite happy with the Mtn. Morph as it packs quite small and has a hose to keep pressure off the tube stem. The rest seems to be covered. I've had two pretty good crashes on tour and with a crash, you never know whats going to be buggered up and whats needed to get back up and running, Bandaids and ductape hve been very handy. Ride safe. Gary On Jul 25, 10:30 pm, thebvo the...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy all! I'm doing the Pacific coast tour (2000 miles - yikes) in september. It will be my first long distance tour ever, so I would love to hear suggestions on what to bring, besides camping gear. I've been backpacking for 10 years, so that part is covered, but what I'm curious about deals with bike tools and accessories and tips. For example: bike pumps - cO2 cartridge or top tube pump? Pedals - Grip king or cages? - I am NOT doing the lance armstrong shoes. So, I dunno. I'm just puttin it out there if anyone with experience wants to float some knowledge my way about touring. Thanks a lot ~Ben ps: I'll be out in the woods canoeing for 3 weeks, but when I get back I'll be ready to read and learn. Cheerio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
What this world needs is a 15 mm pedal wrench on one end with a bottle opener on the other. When was the last time you found a 9/16 spindle? I have a nice collection of cheap cork screws, gathered on various tours. Can you believe 6 wine drinking cyclists NO ONE thought to bring one? Guess we're not the wine snobs we make out to be. dougP On Jul 26, 5:59 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: No corkscrew required.http://www.stx.ox.ac.uk/system/files/images/Knob+Creek.JPG On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Jeez, do all of you travel without a corkscrew! I did that once and found myself in the Maine woods trying to open a cabernet with a screw driver. I swore never again. Now I always include a swiss army knife in my tool kit. There's only so much civilization I leave behind when I tour. michael On Jul 26, 7:07 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Who you calling hypercracker? Bring a hypercracker. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/stein-mini-lock/ On Jul 26, 3:54 pm, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: I'd bring a leatherman, a bike tool, some chain lube, patch kit, 3 spare tubes, chain pin, folding tire, and a GOOD bike pump that has a gauge. To me that would be a dream tool/ repair kit. Get really comfortable with the patch kit and it will save you some $$$ and pump your tires up every morning. I hope you are going North to South!!! Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
And it should be made of titanium. http://www.paragonmachineworks.com/storename/paragonmachineworks/dept/261321/ItemDetail-10464131.aspx Okay, not a pedal wrench, but it could be modified. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:46 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: What this world needs is a 15 mm pedal wrench on one end with a bottle opener on the other. When was the last time you found a 9/16 spindle? I have a nice collection of cheap cork screws, gathered on various tours. Can you believe 6 wine drinking cyclists NO ONE thought to bring one? Guess we're not the wine snobs we make out to be. dougP On Jul 26, 5:59 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: No corkscrew required.http://www.stx.ox.ac.uk/system/files/images/Knob+Creek.JPG On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Jeez, do all of you travel without a corkscrew! I did that once and found myself in the Maine woods trying to open a cabernet with a screw driver. I swore never again. Now I always include a swiss army knife in my tool kit. There's only so much civilization I leave behind when I tour. michael On Jul 26, 7:07 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Who you calling hypercracker? Bring a hypercracker. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/stein-mini-lock/ On Jul 26, 3:54 pm, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: I'd bring a leatherman, a bike tool, some chain lube, patch kit, 3 spare tubes, chain pin, folding tire, and a GOOD bike pump that has a gauge. To me that would be a dream tool/ repair kit. Get really comfortable with the patch kit and it will save you some $$$ and pump your tires up every morning. I hope you are going North to South!!! Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
Ah, but this is so utterly elegant, for that. Rob in Seattle On Jul 26, 2010, at 5:59 PM, cyclotourist wrote: No corkscrew required. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
Believe me, I was fondling one at River City in PDX just a short two weeks ago... but it's the proprietary cage you have to buy that killed the deal :-( That and capacity. :-) On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, but this http://www.ahearnecycles.com/pages/flaskholster.html is so utterly elegant, for that. Rob in Seattle On Jul 26, 2010, at 5:59 PM, cyclotourist wrote: No corkscrew required.http://www.stx.ox.ac.uk/system/files/images/Knob+Creek.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.