Re: [RBW] Re: Ultegra 9spd long cage range

2023-12-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
For what it's worth, the Long Cage RD-6500 rear derailleur is rated for a 
27T max cog.  The Short Cage RD-6500 is rated for a 28T max cog.  A couple 
people in this thread seem to think that a long cage means it'll shift to a 
larger cog, and that is not the case with the RD-6500.  The long cage and 
short cage versions have the same parallelogram, which is the main thing 
that determines max cog.  The long cage just gets you more capacity, which 
is the ability to take up slack.  So the long cage version is a better 
choice if you are running a triple, but the two versions will take about 
the same max cog.  

I can show my 
receipts: 
https://si.shimano.com/en/pdfs/si/53Z0D/SI-53Z0D-000-00-ENG.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1qgzLw3ODQ8zfvUx6pY8oPpTThCXR2s_Hb3nwBLxBfy1USHnUCMRAT5R0

If a short cage 6500 will barely take a 32, then a long cage 6500 will also 
barely take a 32 on the same bike, but not a lot more

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, December 20, 2023 at 7:52:36 AM UTC-8 John Dewey wrote:

> Holy smokes, all our bikes are set up with 9-speed mid-cage Shimano rd’s 
> and all handle 33 front / 32 rear with aplomb. I would think long-cage 
> handles almost any crazy thing in back. 
>
> Jock
>
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 3:47 PM Cody Marvin  wrote:
>
>> I have one with an 11-30 cassette and it works well.
>>
>> Cody, Chicago
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 5:42 PM dylan green  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jeremy - I was definitely hoping an 11-32 would be OK.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 3:35 PM Jeremy Till  wrote:
>>>
 Generally, with Shimano road derailleurs the short and long cage 
 versions usually had about the same max cog specification, around 27 or 
 28t. The difference was that the longer cage one had enough capacity that 
 it could handle a triple in front. 

 The general consensus around here is that Shimano derailleur 
 capacity/max cog specifications are usually a little bit on the 
 conservative side, and many have successfully used them with larger rear 
 cogs than those for which they were specified. If it were mine, I'd be 
 tempted to see if it could shift something like an 11-32 cassette. 

 -Jeremy Till
 Sacramento, CA


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 wrote:

> I have a 6500 series Ultegra RD with a long cage. Anyone know the 
> range of cassette I should be able to work with? I believe the short cage 
> can take 28, but I can't find the long cage max anywhere...any help is 
> appreciated!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultegra 9spd long cage range

2023-12-20 Thread Patrick Moore
Long ago I used a short cage 8-speed Ultegra rd, on a long mtb hanger, to
shift a 14-32 7-speed cassette; it worked fine tho' it was rather stretched
out in the 48 and middle cogs, you could use the 26 t granny only with the
biggest cogs, and it grumbled when shifting to the 32 in the middle 38 t
ring when the mech got covered in sand. But the point is, if a short cage
can handle 32 in back then for a long cage it ought to be a doddle.



On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 8:52 AM John Dewey  wrote:

> Holy smokes, all our bikes are set up with 9-speed mid-cage Shimano rd’s
> and all handle 33 front / 32 rear with aplomb. I would think long-cage
> handles almost any crazy thing in back.
>
> Jock
>
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 3:47 PM Cody Marvin  wrote:
>
>> I have one with an 11-30 cassette and it works well.
>>
>> Cody, Chicago
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 5:42 PM dylan green 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jeremy - I was definitely hoping an 11-32 would be OK.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 3:35 PM Jeremy Till 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Generally, with Shimano road derailleurs the short and long cage
 versions usually had about the same max cog specification, around 27 or
 28t. The difference was that the longer cage one had enough capacity that
 it could handle a triple in front.

 The general consensus around here is that Shimano derailleur
 capacity/max cog specifications are usually a little bit on the
 conservative side, and many have successfully used them with larger rear
 cogs than those for which they were specified. If it were mine, I'd be
 tempted to see if it could shift something like an 11-32 cassette.

 -Jeremy Till
 Sacramento, CA


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 wrote:

> I have a 6500 series Ultegra RD with a long cage. Anyone know the
> range of cassette I should be able to work with? I believe the short cage
> can take 28, but I can't find the long cage max anywhere...any help is
> appreciated!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultegra 9spd long cage range

2023-12-20 Thread John Dewey
Holy smokes, all our bikes are set up with 9-speed mid-cage Shimano rd’s
and all handle 33 front / 32 rear with aplomb. I would think long-cage
handles almost any crazy thing in back.

Jock

On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 3:47 PM Cody Marvin  wrote:

> I have one with an 11-30 cassette and it works well.
>
> Cody, Chicago
>
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 5:42 PM dylan green 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jeremy - I was definitely hoping an 11-32 would be OK.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 3:35 PM Jeremy Till 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Generally, with Shimano road derailleurs the short and long cage
>>> versions usually had about the same max cog specification, around 27 or
>>> 28t. The difference was that the longer cage one had enough capacity that
>>> it could handle a triple in front.
>>>
>>> The general consensus around here is that Shimano derailleur
>>> capacity/max cog specifications are usually a little bit on the
>>> conservative side, and many have successfully used them with larger rear
>>> cogs than those for which they were specified. If it were mine, I'd be
>>> tempted to see if it could shift something like an 11-32 cassette.
>>>
>>> -Jeremy Till
>>> Sacramento, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 3:14:12 PM UTC-8 dylantho...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have a 6500 series Ultegra RD with a long cage. Anyone know the range
 of cassette I should be able to work with? I believe the short cage can
 take 28, but I can't find the long cage max anywhere...any help is
 appreciated!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultegra 9spd long cage range

2023-12-19 Thread dylan green
Thanks everyone! 

On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 5:30:12 AM UTC-8 ma...@mindmechanics.net 
wrote:

> I use it with an 11-32 cassette (friction shifting) and it works fine. I 
> originally used it with a wolf tooth road link but realised it didn’t need 
> it so now run it without. No problems. 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
> Glasgow, Scotland
>
> On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 at 12:50, Peter White  wrote:
>
>> You can get it to work with the larger cogs, up to 32 teeth, but when you 
>> do that the shifting on the smaller cogs will suffer, depending on their 
>> size, as the upper pulley will be too far from the cogs. I get excellent 
>> shifting across the entire range with a 30 tooth large cog and 14 tooth 
>> small, but that's the limit, unless you're OK with sluggish shifting at the 
>> small end. The problem is you have to tighten the "B" screw too much in 
>> order to clear the largest cogs, resulting in the upper pulley being too 
>> far from the 11 or 12. I suspect that if I had a 12 tooth small cog it 
>> wouldn't shift well, but I haven't tested that as a 12 tooth small cog 
>> would never get used, at least not by me. ;-)
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 8:36 PM Greg J  wrote:
>>
>>> I too have used it with a 11-32 and it worked fine. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 4:16:04 PM UTC-8 Andy Beichler wrote:
>>>
 I am running an 11-32 cassette with a long cage and it indexes fine.

 On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 6:47:48 PM UTC-5 codyt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I have one with an 11-30 cassette and it works well.
>
> Cody, Chicago
>
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 5:42 PM dylan green  
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jeremy - I was definitely hoping an 11-32 would be OK.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 3:35 PM Jeremy Till  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Generally, with Shimano road derailleurs the short and long cage 
>>> versions usually had about the same max cog specification, around 27 or 
>>> 28t. The difference was that the longer cage one had enough capacity 
>>> that 
>>> it could handle a triple in front. 
>>>
>>> The general consensus around here is that Shimano derailleur 
>>> capacity/max cog specifications are usually a little bit on the 
>>> conservative side, and many have successfully used them with larger 
>>> rear 
>>> cogs than those for which they were specified. If it were mine, I'd be 
>>> tempted to see if it could shift something like an 11-32 cassette. 
>>>
>>> -Jeremy Till
>>> Sacramento, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 3:14:12 PM UTC-8 
>>> dylantho...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I have a 6500 series Ultegra RD with a long cage. Anyone know the 
 range of cassette I should be able to work with? I believe the short 
 cage 
 can take 28, but I can't find the long cage max anywhere...any help is 
 appreciated!
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultegra 9spd long cage range

2023-12-19 Thread Mark West
I use it with an 11-32 cassette (friction shifting) and it works fine. I
originally used it with a wolf tooth road link but realised it didn’t need
it so now run it without. No problems.

Cheers,

Mark
Glasgow, Scotland

On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 at 12:50, Peter White  wrote:

> You can get it to work with the larger cogs, up to 32 teeth, but when you
> do that the shifting on the smaller cogs will suffer, depending on their
> size, as the upper pulley will be too far from the cogs. I get excellent
> shifting across the entire range with a 30 tooth large cog and 14 tooth
> small, but that's the limit, unless you're OK with sluggish shifting at the
> small end. The problem is you have to tighten the "B" screw too much in
> order to clear the largest cogs, resulting in the upper pulley being too
> far from the 11 or 12. I suspect that if I had a 12 tooth small cog it
> wouldn't shift well, but I haven't tested that as a 12 tooth small cog
> would never get used, at least not by me. ;-)
>
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 8:36 PM Greg J  wrote:
>
>> I too have used it with a 11-32 and it worked fine.
>>
>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 4:16:04 PM UTC-8 Andy Beichler wrote:
>>
>>> I am running an 11-32 cassette with a long cage and it indexes fine.
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 6:47:48 PM UTC-5 codyt...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have one with an 11-30 cassette and it works well.

 Cody, Chicago

 On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 5:42 PM dylan green 
 wrote:

> Thanks Jeremy - I was definitely hoping an 11-32 would be OK.
>
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 3:35 PM Jeremy Till 
> wrote:
>
>> Generally, with Shimano road derailleurs the short and long cage
>> versions usually had about the same max cog specification, around 27 or
>> 28t. The difference was that the longer cage one had enough capacity that
>> it could handle a triple in front.
>>
>> The general consensus around here is that Shimano derailleur
>> capacity/max cog specifications are usually a little bit on the
>> conservative side, and many have successfully used them with larger rear
>> cogs than those for which they were specified. If it were mine, I'd be
>> tempted to see if it could shift something like an 11-32 cassette.
>>
>> -Jeremy Till
>> Sacramento, CA
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 3:14:12 PM UTC-8
>> dylantho...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 6500 series Ultegra RD with a long cage. Anyone know the
>>> range of cassette I should be able to work with? I believe the short 
>>> cage
>>> can take 28, but I can't find the long cage max anywhere...any help is
>>> appreciated!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultegra 9spd long cage range

2023-12-19 Thread Peter White
You can get it to work with the larger cogs, up to 32 teeth, but when you
do that the shifting on the smaller cogs will suffer, depending on their
size, as the upper pulley will be too far from the cogs. I get excellent
shifting across the entire range with a 30 tooth large cog and 14 tooth
small, but that's the limit, unless you're OK with sluggish shifting at the
small end. The problem is you have to tighten the "B" screw too much in
order to clear the largest cogs, resulting in the upper pulley being too
far from the 11 or 12. I suspect that if I had a 12 tooth small cog it
wouldn't shift well, but I haven't tested that as a 12 tooth small cog
would never get used, at least not by me. ;-)

On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 8:36 PM Greg J  wrote:

> I too have used it with a 11-32 and it worked fine.
>
> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 4:16:04 PM UTC-8 Andy Beichler wrote:
>
>> I am running an 11-32 cassette with a long cage and it indexes fine.
>>
>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 6:47:48 PM UTC-5 codyt...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have one with an 11-30 cassette and it works well.
>>>
>>> Cody, Chicago
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 5:42 PM dylan green 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Jeremy - I was definitely hoping an 11-32 would be OK.

 On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 3:35 PM Jeremy Till  wrote:

> Generally, with Shimano road derailleurs the short and long cage
> versions usually had about the same max cog specification, around 27 or
> 28t. The difference was that the longer cage one had enough capacity that
> it could handle a triple in front.
>
> The general consensus around here is that Shimano derailleur
> capacity/max cog specifications are usually a little bit on the
> conservative side, and many have successfully used them with larger rear
> cogs than those for which they were specified. If it were mine, I'd be
> tempted to see if it could shift something like an 11-32 cassette.
>
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
>
> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 3:14:12 PM UTC-8 dylantho...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I have a 6500 series Ultegra RD with a long cage. Anyone know the
>> range of cassette I should be able to work with? I believe the short cage
>> can take 28, but I can't find the long cage max anywhere...any help is
>> appreciated!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultegra 9spd long cage range

2023-12-18 Thread Greg J
I too have used it with a 11-32 and it worked fine. 

On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 4:16:04 PM UTC-8 Andy Beichler wrote:

> I am running an 11-32 cassette with a long cage and it indexes fine.
>
> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 6:47:48 PM UTC-5 codyt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have one with an 11-30 cassette and it works well.
>>
>> Cody, Chicago
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 5:42 PM dylan green  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jeremy - I was definitely hoping an 11-32 would be OK.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 3:35 PM Jeremy Till  wrote:
>>>
 Generally, with Shimano road derailleurs the short and long cage 
 versions usually had about the same max cog specification, around 27 or 
 28t. The difference was that the longer cage one had enough capacity that 
 it could handle a triple in front. 

 The general consensus around here is that Shimano derailleur 
 capacity/max cog specifications are usually a little bit on the 
 conservative side, and many have successfully used them with larger rear 
 cogs than those for which they were specified. If it were mine, I'd be 
 tempted to see if it could shift something like an 11-32 cassette. 

 -Jeremy Till
 Sacramento, CA


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> range of cassette I should be able to work with? I believe the short cage 
> can take 28, but I can't find the long cage max anywhere...any help is 
> appreciated!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultegra 9spd long cage range

2023-12-18 Thread Armand Kizirian
A wolf tooth road link can help provide clearance for the larger cogs 
should you run into issues. 

On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 4:16:04 PM UTC-8 Andy Beichler wrote:

> I am running an 11-32 cassette with a long cage and it indexes fine.
>
> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 6:47:48 PM UTC-5 codyt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have one with an 11-30 cassette and it works well.
>>
>> Cody, Chicago
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 5:42 PM dylan green  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jeremy - I was definitely hoping an 11-32 would be OK.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 3:35 PM Jeremy Till  wrote:
>>>
 Generally, with Shimano road derailleurs the short and long cage 
 versions usually had about the same max cog specification, around 27 or 
 28t. The difference was that the longer cage one had enough capacity that 
 it could handle a triple in front. 

 The general consensus around here is that Shimano derailleur 
 capacity/max cog specifications are usually a little bit on the 
 conservative side, and many have successfully used them with larger rear 
 cogs than those for which they were specified. If it were mine, I'd be 
 tempted to see if it could shift something like an 11-32 cassette. 

 -Jeremy Till
 Sacramento, CA


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> I have a 6500 series Ultegra RD with a long cage. Anyone know the 
> range of cassette I should be able to work with? I believe the short cage 
> can take 28, but I can't find the long cage max anywhere...any help is 
> appreciated!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultegra 9spd long cage range

2023-12-18 Thread Andy Beichler
I am running an 11-32 cassette with a long cage and it indexes fine.

On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 6:47:48 PM UTC-5 codyt...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have one with an 11-30 cassette and it works well.
>
> Cody, Chicago
>
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 5:42 PM dylan green  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jeremy - I was definitely hoping an 11-32 would be OK.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 3:35 PM Jeremy Till  wrote:
>>
>>> Generally, with Shimano road derailleurs the short and long cage 
>>> versions usually had about the same max cog specification, around 27 or 
>>> 28t. The difference was that the longer cage one had enough capacity that 
>>> it could handle a triple in front. 
>>>
>>> The general consensus around here is that Shimano derailleur 
>>> capacity/max cog specifications are usually a little bit on the 
>>> conservative side, and many have successfully used them with larger rear 
>>> cogs than those for which they were specified. If it were mine, I'd be 
>>> tempted to see if it could shift something like an 11-32 cassette. 
>>>
>>> -Jeremy Till
>>> Sacramento, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 3:14:12 PM UTC-8 dylantho...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have a 6500 series Ultegra RD with a long cage. Anyone know the range 
 of cassette I should be able to work with? I believe the short cage can 
 take 28, but I can't find the long cage max anywhere...any help is 
 appreciated!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultegra 9spd long cage range

2023-12-18 Thread Cody Marvin
I have one with an 11-30 cassette and it works well.

Cody, Chicago

On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 5:42 PM dylan green 
wrote:

> Thanks Jeremy - I was definitely hoping an 11-32 would be OK.
>
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 3:35 PM Jeremy Till  wrote:
>
>> Generally, with Shimano road derailleurs the short and long cage versions
>> usually had about the same max cog specification, around 27 or 28t. The
>> difference was that the longer cage one had enough capacity that it could
>> handle a triple in front.
>>
>> The general consensus around here is that Shimano derailleur capacity/max
>> cog specifications are usually a little bit on the conservative side, and
>> many have successfully used them with larger rear cogs than those for which
>> they were specified. If it were mine, I'd be tempted to see if it could
>> shift something like an 11-32 cassette.
>>
>> -Jeremy Till
>> Sacramento, CA
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 3:14:12 PM UTC-8 dylantho...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 6500 series Ultegra RD with a long cage. Anyone know the range
>>> of cassette I should be able to work with? I believe the short cage can
>>> take 28, but I can't find the long cage max anywhere...any help is
>>> appreciated!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultegra 9spd long cage range

2023-12-18 Thread dylan green
Thanks Jeremy - I was definitely hoping an 11-32 would be OK.

On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 3:35 PM Jeremy Till  wrote:

> Generally, with Shimano road derailleurs the short and long cage versions
> usually had about the same max cog specification, around 27 or 28t. The
> difference was that the longer cage one had enough capacity that it could
> handle a triple in front.
>
> The general consensus around here is that Shimano derailleur capacity/max
> cog specifications are usually a little bit on the conservative side, and
> many have successfully used them with larger rear cogs than those for which
> they were specified. If it were mine, I'd be tempted to see if it could
> shift something like an 11-32 cassette.
>
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
>
> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 3:14:12 PM UTC-8 dylantho...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I have a 6500 series Ultegra RD with a long cage. Anyone know the range
>> of cassette I should be able to work with? I believe the short cage can
>> take 28, but I can't find the long cage max anywhere...any help is
>> appreciated!
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[RBW] Re: Ultegra 9spd long cage range

2023-12-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
Concur with Jeremy:

12-27 no problem
11-28 no problem
11-32 probably
11-36 probably not
11-42 I'd bet that's a big no

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 3:35:52 PM UTC-8 Jeremy Till wrote:

> Generally, with Shimano road derailleurs the short and long cage versions 
> usually had about the same max cog specification, around 27 or 28t. The 
> difference was that the longer cage one had enough capacity that it could 
> handle a triple in front. 
>
> The general consensus around here is that Shimano derailleur capacity/max 
> cog specifications are usually a little bit on the conservative side, and 
> many have successfully used them with larger rear cogs than those for which 
> they were specified. If it were mine, I'd be tempted to see if it could 
> shift something like an 11-32 cassette. 
>
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
>
> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 3:14:12 PM UTC-8 dylantho...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I have a 6500 series Ultegra RD with a long cage. Anyone know the range 
>> of cassette I should be able to work with? I believe the short cage can 
>> take 28, but I can't find the long cage max anywhere...any help is 
>> appreciated!
>
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[RBW] Re: Ultegra 9spd long cage range

2023-12-18 Thread Jeremy Till
Generally, with Shimano road derailleurs the short and long cage versions 
usually had about the same max cog specification, around 27 or 28t. The 
difference was that the longer cage one had enough capacity that it could 
handle a triple in front. 

The general consensus around here is that Shimano derailleur capacity/max 
cog specifications are usually a little bit on the conservative side, and 
many have successfully used them with larger rear cogs than those for which 
they were specified. If it were mine, I'd be tempted to see if it could 
shift something like an 11-32 cassette. 

-Jeremy Till
Sacramento, CA


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wrote:

> I have a 6500 series Ultegra RD with a long cage. Anyone know the range of 
> cassette I should be able to work with? I believe the short cage can take 
> 28, but I can't find the long cage max anywhere...any help is appreciated!

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