Re: [RBW] Re: Very initial impressions of new Elk Pass 559 X 32 mm tire.
Compass having tires that officially support tubeless probably deserves a thread of it's own. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:48 PM, Lungimsam wrote: > Compass just announced tubeless compatible tires in 26", 650b, and 700c > Check it out on the BQ blog. > https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/08/12/compass-tires-and-tubeless/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Very initial impressions of new Elk Pass 559 X 32 mm tire.
Compass just announced tubeless compatible tires in 26", 650b, and 700c Check it out on the BQ blog. https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/08/12/compass-tires-and-tubeless/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Very initial impressions of new Elk Pass 559 X 32 mm tire.
BTW, the Elk in front measures - brand new - 27.41 mm on a 19 mm rim. I daresay it will expand with use. I like it as is and I'll like it if it gets wider. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2015, at 3:52 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I posted earlier about receiving and mounting these on the RBW list. I just > got back from a not very long ride -- 21 miles out and back along the > currently smoothly paved Rio Grande recreational trail. > > I emphasize that these are initial impressions from one ride. > > Conditions: Annoying sidewind from west. I felt tired -- fighting off a cold > occasioned by massive allergy attack on Tuesday; in short, I was dogging it. > 46 X 15 X 24.8". > > 1. Smooth! "Nuf said! > 2. Ride: they *seem* to require less effort for a given speed. > > I had been thinking of gearing down because, with the 75" gear and the Pro > Races, the tendons between inner thigh and groin quickly felt strained -- I'd > have to stand and pedal briefly for relief. When I put the cogs back on > today, I installed a 16 on the flip side of the 15, for a ~71" gear. In fact, > despite the slightly shorter rim -- 559 versus 571 -- the Elks are taller, so > that the effective wheel diameter is a wee bit higher than with the 650C X 23 > racing tires, about 76". > > At any rate, I was anticipating this tendon strain, and was surprised to find > that it did not happen. I was taking it easy, of course, but so was I on > Sunday, averaging about the same speed on the Michelins. > > I averaged 16.3 with 2 stops to pump up the front tire -- more on this below > -- and a stop at the bank. I stopped one more time for a drink and to pump, > but turned off Cycle meter. > > The ride is wonderful. I *do not* associate road buzz with speed; if > anything, I associate speed with a sort of "firm smoothness" that I > experienced with the Parigi Roubaix; the Elks seem to exhibit this even more. > > I noticed that tire pressure, which thanks to the 2 (visible) goatheads I > picked up on the front, varied from about 40 to 60, seemed to make very > little difference to the feel of speed. > > I've noticed that "inferior" tires (559X32 Pasela -- non Tourguard; a 240 > gram tires; Avocet Fastgrip, admittedly old; Tioga City Slicker) feel very > different at different pressures. The P-Rs, the Kojaks, and even more the > Elks, seem to roll the same at very different pressures -- I didn't notice my > leaks until the tire started bouncing and sagging under cornering pressures. > > 3. Susceptibility to punctures: if today's ride is any indication of longer > term performance, these things are goathead magnets. I pumped the front tire > 3 times within 21 miles -- tho' after the last stop, pressure seemed to hold. > ~1 3/4 oz of sealant in each tire. The rear did not puncture. > > I'll have to install tire savers! > > 4. Handling -- in particular, grip in turns. Too early to say, really. My > initial very vague impression is that the 650C X 23 (22 actual) Pro Race 3s > feel a wee bit more secure in turns, but after all, this is a fixed gear and > I don't dive into corners. > > More verbiage to follow! Incompetent photo attached. > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten > > * > The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a > circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and > individualities revolve. Chuang Tzu > Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. Aristotle > > The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. Dante > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Very initial impressions of new Elk Pass 559 X 32 mm tire.
And one more thing: Mounting the Elks on Sun M14A rims was easy peasy -- almost laughably easy, given that I was anticipating huge trouble, what with the flat ribbon shape of the new tires and the semi-aero rim profile that makes installing Kojaks, and even more, Pro Race 3s, quite difficult. These things were -- really! -- kittens! On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > I posted earlier about receiving and mounting these on the RBW list. I > just got back from a not very long ride -- 21 miles out and back along the > currently smoothly paved Rio Grande recreational trail. > > I emphasize that these are initial impressions from one ride. > > Conditions: Annoying sidewind from west. I felt tired -- fighting off a > cold occasioned by massive allergy attack on Tuesday; in short, I was > dogging it. 46 X 15 X 24.8". > > 1. Smooth! "Nuf said! > 2. Ride: they *seem* to require less effort for a given speed. > > I had been thinking of gearing down because, with the 75" gear and the Pro > Races, the tendons between inner thigh and groin quickly felt strained -- > I'd have to stand and pedal briefly for relief. When I put the cogs back on > today, I installed a 16 on the flip side of the 15, for a ~71" gear. In > fact, despite the slightly shorter rim -- 559 versus 571 -- the Elks are > taller, so that the effective wheel diameter is a wee bit higher than with > the 650C X 23 racing tires, about 76". > > At any rate, I was anticipating this tendon strain, and was surprised to > find that it did not happen. I was taking it easy, of course, but so was I > on Sunday, averaging about the same speed on the Michelins. > > I averaged 16.3 with 2 stops to pump up the front tire -- more on this > below -- and a stop at the bank. I stopped one more time for a drink and to > pump, but turned off Cycle meter. > > The ride is wonderful. I *do not* associate road buzz with speed; if > anything, I associate speed with a sort of "firm smoothness" that I > experienced with the Parigi Roubaix; the Elks seem to exhibit this even > more. > > I noticed that tire pressure, which thanks to the 2 (visible) goatheads I > picked up on the front, varied from about 40 to 60, seemed to make very > little difference to the feel of speed. > > I've noticed that "inferior" tires (559X32 Pasela -- non Tourguard; a 240 > gram tires; Avocet Fastgrip, admittedly old; Tioga City Slicker) feel very > different at different pressures. The P-Rs, the Kojaks, and even more the > Elks, seem to roll the same at very different pressures -- I didn't notice > my leaks until the tire started bouncing and sagging under cornering > pressures. > > 3. Susceptibility to punctures: if today's ride is any indication of > longer term performance, these things are goathead magnets. I pumped the > front tire 3 times within 21 miles -- tho' after the last stop, pressure > seemed to hold. ~1 3/4 oz of sealant in each tire. The rear did not > puncture. > > I'll have to install tire savers! > > 4. Handling -- in particular, grip in turns. Too early to say, really. My > initial very vague impression is that the 650C X 23 (22 actual) Pro Race 3s > feel a wee bit more secure in turns, but after all, this is a fixed gear > and I don't dive into corners. > > More verbiage to follow! Incompetent photo attached. > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten > > * > *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a > circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and > individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu > > *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle > > *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
